VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [Dr PinkCake]

[Ottoeight]

Just for comparison, episode 4.
You wake up in Sage's house.

1) You go to the shower and fuck Melanie and Sarah
2) You take pictures of Camilla and Mona's asses
3) Quinn jerks off to you
4) Sage do a titjob
5) You lick Ashley's pussy and Lily rubs against your dick
6) The end of the evening - you fuck Sage

You wake up in Bella's house.

You're looking for which flowers to water to please Bella.

ONLY if you're following the DIK path.

 

[ename144]

I will reply to this, not cause you wrote it, i saw this so often now, but never talked about it...

I for one think most people doesnt really understand this "throuple" and its dynamics.

First of all, everybody needs to understand that Josy and Maya love each other very deep. They dont want to lose each other, no matter what... yeah they have a big issues in the realtionship during the time we are witnessing, but its easy to see that they love each other very much... i mean, Josy came right through the door, the shit hits the fan and just some minutes later, they both are getting together again.

So, if you decide to go just for one girl mainly, and kinda left the other out... the throuple will start cause neither of the girls want to lose the other.

In my case i mainly picked Josy over Maya in most playthroughs, so Maya kinda "rolls" with it to test things out but mainly to stay with Josy. The problems with the HOTs and Mayas Dad are just "hickups" nothing that really can be dangerous for the realtionship between Maya and Josy i think... The only thing that is dangerous for this relationship, is the MC himself. Cause he can make one girl fall deep in love with him, while the other isnt. If youre not in a equal realtionship with them.

So i think... if you "mistread" one of the girls, she choosed to go in the throuple just to not loose the other girl, thats it... in the dilaogue in the dik-house in episode 4, where you can start the throuple, the whole dialogue is about "not losing the other" thats the motivation for Maya or Josy to go in the throuple when not both of them are falling for the MC.

Of course, in the long run this will not work out... its very clear, if you dont want to stay in the throuple and dont treat both of them equaliy, there will be a point where one girl will leave the throuple heartbroken, no doubt about it.

but for now, if you go only for Josy only for example... Maya joins the throuple just to stay close to Josy, maybe with an option to get closer to the MC, but the main reason is just... she doesnt want to lose Josy and the other way around the same.

I partially agree, but I don't think it's about fear per se. IMHO the throuple is something of a desperation ploy to keep each leg of the triangle together because none of the other options will work.

As we saw in in Season 1 (and again in Episode7) Maya and Josy do love each other, but they react very differently to adversity; worse, those differences can easily exacerbate the the stress they feel, driving them even further apart. Meanwhile each of the girls has very strong feelings for the MC, and from what we've seen his approach to adversity is a bit more compatible with theirs... unless of course their relationship itself is the cause of said adversity.

This leads to a dilemma, at least when the MC isn't willing to friendzone the girls. Without him their existing relationship is fragile. But the relationship between the MC and each of the girls is strong enough that it could overwhelm their own relationship if circumstances prevent them from being together. By the same token, it's unlikely the MC could spend a lot of time supporting the girls without forming some sort of close bond with one or both of them of them. (I expect this will eventually happen if the MC isn't on their path but still has feelings for one of the girls.)

Hence the throuple. It's not about group sex opportunities, it's an attempt to balance the needs of all three against each other. That's the reason they want to take it slow, to figure out how to make each individual relationship work without overstressing the other two. It's not clear if that's possible, especially when they need to keep the whole thing secret, but they know none of the other options will work so they are committed to trying this.

Granted, this doesn't make a lot of sense if the MC tries for something more and they reject him (he should cut ties with them completely on that case), but that's been a longstanding complaint for ages. It's also unclear how the MC can just walk away from the throuple at the crossroads, but DPC ducked out of showing us that so far.

An important note about this game is (unless you install a mod) you can't get all the girls in one play through. You're not meant to. At one point in the game, if you've been stringing along a bunch of girls, you actually have to decide which one you'd like to be with, and break it off with the others, or you can even break it off with all of them.

Whilst anyone with the harem mentality will be frustrated by this, it does open the game up for multiple playthroughs with multiple playing styles.

After the first play through you've already kinda got the impression from all the girls, and it isn't too hard to work out how to chase one girl or another. It's pretty clear Maya or Jill wouldn't go for an asshole kinda character, and since Josy's lumped in with Maya, she doesn't get a say (story of Josy's life), Bella and Sage are a lot easier.

The only problem is it's a very long game by now (I don't know exactly how long a full playthrough without getting bogged down in pixel hunts and render searches would take), and I get that not everyone is thrilled with the idea of playing the game all over again.

But given there's roughly 5-6 months between episodes, there's plenty of time to sneak another playthrough in before a new episode comes along.

In my experience, forced branching only adds to replay value if the individual branches flow naturally from the story and each branch plays out very differently from the others. Otherwise all it does is encourage players to skip a lot of the less interesting (to them) content. Or worse, it feels like an artificial constraint purely to lengthen game time.

BaDIK hasn't done a great job with this so far. Some of the paths worked well, but for the most part the game played out the same way if you opted out of scenes or not. And I'm sure I've ranted about how forced the crossroads was to make my feelings clear on that. But Season 3 is when we should get the real payoff to this branching, so we'll have to see how DPC handles it going forward.

 

[AchedCroissant]

So after Jill stopped being the queen of blue balls, which of the girls is now causing you blue balls? Just don't call Bianca, she appeared in one scene and then on Jill's way.
My candidate is Heather. This bitch has been teasing MC for so long that I hope my man will make Tommy a cuckold.

None of the girls I'm interested are even Zoey who lived through a winter of celibacy now is ready to have sex again

 

[PashafromRussia]

None of the girls I'm interested are even Zoey who lived through a winter of celibacy now is ready to have sex again

Zoey is only interesting to me in this regard how deep she will be able to take a cock in her mouth and will be anally destroyed.

 

[sixart]

KRJ and Sally

How are they causing blue balls to ANYONE ??!! Can drop Heather in here as well...

 

[AchedCroissant]

Zoey is only interesting to me in this regard how deep she will be able to take a cock in her mouth and will be anally destroyed.

Well she almost have whole dick inside her mouth

And of course I support doing anal to her

 

[ChipLecsap]

How are they causing blue balls to ANYONE ??!!

Well, they didn't invite me for a Threesome in the sauna, during the Hots party

 

[dalli_x]

It's good to see Sarah's getting some love, Warscared would be pleased.

Initially I liked Sarah, then it started to piss me off that she was always asking for money for sex (of course it's part of her role in Quinn's restaurant, but even so...).

But her exchange at the dorm party, if you tell Quinn you'd like to fuck Sarah and you also chose hers as the best ass, was interesting:

Sarah: "By the way, what did you tell Quinn about me?"​

mc: "Hm... Refresh my memory."​

Sarah: "She told me not to charge you the next time. If you catch my drift..."​

mc: "Oh. Well, she asked me which one of you I liked the most and, naturally, it is you."​

Sarah: "It's not the first time you've told girls you like me."​

Sarah: "Dammit, Fuckface. You shouldn't... I'm not the kind of girl to be serious with a dude."​

mc: "Never say never. I like you."​

Sarah: "Are you not ashamed to admit that?"​

mc: "Why would I be? You're super-hot, Sarah."​

​

I kinda get the impression that's the game telling you there will never be anything between the mc and Sarah. She enjoys his big dick, but she has no feelings for him.

I always preferred Melanie over Sarah's though. I like how the two of them are a duo, but they do have different personalities. Quinn's likes them both (hence why she brings them over to watch Maya grind the mc before she tasers him), but Melanie's personality seems a little softer.

But I feel, other than being a meaningless side fuck from time-to-time, and Melanie being part of the Chad/Troy drama, I don't think much will come of these two.

I really should play several ways. But through you, I also have access to it. This conversation between Sarah and the MC shows me how the development of Josy and Maya could go in the worst case.

Sarah and Melanie have a game going on. They want to find out if the MC is faithful or not.

Why doesn't Sarah want to have a boyfriend? Because she doesn't want to get hurt and because they aren't usually faithful. Sarah is standing in the room where Josy and Maya are standing or later stood. When the MC goes to the bathroom with Sarah, she takes a dick picture of the MC. She proves that the MC is not faithful to Josy and Maya and Sarah wins the game against Melanie.

Melanie stands in the room where Elena, JB and later Josy are. Melanie believes in love. You can see that in the way she helps Chad and Troy. But I think that's how Melanie distinguishes between love and sex. When the MC fucks her, there's nothing to suggest she's going to give it away. But she enjoys it because the MC is a good sex partner. In Josy/Maya Hangout from EP5, the MC can draw a heart or a dick on Josy's shoulder. Somehow this reminds me of Melanie (DICK) and of Elena/JB (heart).

I guess the big parties of EP7 and EP8 will finally decide how Josy and Maya will develop in the solo routes or on the throuple route.

EP7: Josy got 4 messages the day after Patrick showed up at the dorm: from Heather, Camila, Arieth and Elena. These girls have their own roles at EP7's HOTs party that have to do with Josy's development.

Heather: She's a bit frigid, proud, bubbly and faithful when Tommy is faithful too. She has no problem with cheating if it's arranged beforehand.

Camila: Actually a super character. But here I see her selling her body, not because she wants to, but because she has to for a personal reason. She said in EP5 that she wouldn't be proud of it. That suggests to me that Josy may be doing this out of love for Maya.

Arieth: She's a nymphomaniac who keeps falling in love with new guys. Arieth is not only the HOT mother of Josy. She also wants to teach Josy everything.

Elena: Is also a nymphomaniac, as we learn from Jacob in EP2. However, Elena doesn't want other boys, she wants girls. When the MC helps Sage figure out why Chad is at the party, he has to ask Elena. Sarah then goes to her room to warn Chad. Chad and Alex leave, leaving only Melanie and Sarah to play their game at the EP8 dorm party later. But more importantly, the MC finds the key. And why? The movie Maya and the MC watch on their phones in EP2 is titled "The Secret in his Closet." What do we see in HOT's closet? There is a tent at the top. This guarantees that the MC will get Josy and Maya from the flashback of EP4. Patrick has a key to Maya's dorm room, and at EP8's dorm party, there is a giant asskey hanging on the wall in the room where Sarah, Josy, and Maya are. The MC wakes up after this party with Derek. I don't want to know what happened to the MC when he went to the bathroom with Sarah.

Spoiler: Conclusion

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[agabuneya]

Hello i downloaded the game and i want a fresh start but there is nothing that i do leads me to the game. Please help me to start the game.

 

[sixart]

Well, they didn't invite me for a Threesome in the sauna, during the Hots party

Exactly the point... Blue balls needs opportunity as well... Their time will come...

 

[lipe2410]

Hello i downloaded the game and i want a fresh start but there is nothing that i do leads me to the game. Please help me to start the game.

DL seasons 1-2 first. Links are in the first page under "spoilers"

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Maya's words "women shouldn't use their bodies" imply that this is her subjective opinion. But Maya tolerates the girls who do because she sees feminism for what it really is. The equality of all people. So she sees the prostitutes objectively as human beings.

For Sarah, the gender studies discussion is really just chatter, and for the MC, too. Why, really? Because most students misunderstand feminism. They only discuss women's rights and their personal problems. The MC was able to arrange to have a discussion with Maya in EP6. She wanted to talk to the MC about a chapter in the textbook, but the MC didn't study. So she couldn't talk to the MC about it and immediately tickled his balls a bit as punishment. But she asks the MC to let them study for it in pairs, which they do in EP6. In this, you can read Maya's attitude well while she helps the MC study for the gender study.

There is truth in your words. Most students don't want to understand what this course is about at all. Its goal is to teach people to respect other people's opinions and to be tolerant towards each other despite differences. Because we are all different.
Jade mentions this in the first episode: "And why does feminism attract the most shocking women? Most of them do not even understand what this course is about."
As Sarah said, it is important for them to hear "men are bad" and "sexual harassment" and start jerking off.
The MC on this course only hears women who complain, yell, tell how many times they farted in class. No wonder the MC hated those lessons. Well, Derek ... he just trolls everyone there.
Only Maya and that girl from the cafeteria understand what the gender course is about.

 

[dalli_x]

I can't help but feel flabbergasted when I see people say "I haven't played X route, nor plan to" why would you willingly choose to not view scenes you've never seen before simply cause you aren't interested in that girl or nor their specific route? The completionist in me can't understand not wanting to view every scene especially where there's significant enough branching. That's just me though. No knock on anyone who only plays through these games once without change.

That is the beauty of BaDIK. The player can decide for himself what he wants to have. Either a porn game where the goal is to fuck as many girls as possible, or an adult VN with intimate content.

So DIK, NEUTRAL or CHICK.

DIK<>KID: A kid in a young man's body who thinks he's the greatest, but isn't.
NEUTRAL: The transition from teenager to adult.
CHICK: An adult.

The path is actually set, isn't it? We start as a DIK, then go on to transformation to an adult, and then we should actually have an adult MC at some point.

 

[DrSoong]

"women shouldn't use their bodies"

We all use our bodies to earn money, this is called working. Some jobs are highly respected while other will be treated like a disease. Which way someone judges a certain job will depend of his personal character, therefore religion does act like we are still in dark medieval.

 

[DrSoong]

DIK<>KID: A kid in a young man's body who thinks he's the greatest, but isn't.
NEUTRAL: The transition from teenager to adult.
CHICK: An adult.

DIK: Full agree (but you disappoint further players cause you stated that they can't play a MC who is the greatest )
NEUTRAL: Full agree, IMO the best way not only in the game but in real life (so also not only transform but also adult)
CHICK: Disagree, sometimes you (IRL and in the game) have to be a chick, but as an overall decision, you wouldn't stand for your own interests. For me, it's a permanent commuting between kid (but not such one who thinks he is the greatest) and adult.

 

[ChipLecsap]

That is the beauty of BaDIK. The player can decide for himself what he wants to have. Either a porn game where the goal is to fuck as many girls as possible, or an adult VN with intimate content.

So DIK, NEUTRAL or CHICK.

DIK<>KID: A kid in a young man's body who thinks he's the greatest, but isn't.
NEUTRAL: The transition from teenager to adult.
CHICK: An adult.

The path is actually set, isn't it? We start as a DIK, then go on to transformation to an adult, and then we should actually have an adult MC at some point.

WRONG

Dik : The Giga Chad, every girl wants to be with him, and every boy wanst to to be Him

Neutral: Pretty average , nothing special, but nothing bad either, just base.

Chick: The beta male, the creepy male feminist, with massive hypocrisy. The worst kind of Male. Naive girls like Jill , often fall for these predators, only to regret it much much later

 

[felicemastronzo]

There is another crucial fork in the road. Josy/Maya vs. Isabella. Combine that and you have the following variations.

Josy/Maya/Sage/MC
Josy/Maya/Jill/MC
Sage/Isabella/MC
Isabella/Jill/MC
Jill/MC

That's why I prefer Sage, Isabella, and Jill to be friends only with Josy/Maya/MC. That way they can all be friends with each other because the relationships are clearly defined. But Zoey will cause stress because she loves the MC and probably wants to be more than friends with him. The DPC system definitely aims for the MC to break hearts and in my case, only Zoey is left.

When would there be this crossroads between J&M and Bella?

 

[dalli_x]

Haha, good one!

Wait, you mean this serious? Feminism is, like Derek said, only picking raisins from the cake. Or have you ever heard from any feminist that there should be equality at the dirty jobs (such als mine workers, trash collectors or other one with risks for life)? No, only high rates positions as at the top of big companies.

To compare:
equality: Everybody (not only by sex but also by orgin, skin color, religion ...) should have the same chance. Skills should be the biggest factor
equation: a female should get the same high class job as a man, no matter that she isn't qualified, if there are already more women, no problem, she has to get it anyway cause it's positive (discrimination)

Equality improves the company cause the best will get their chance, Equation lowers the quality cause persons (i won't say only females) get into a position to make decisions without proper knowledge. I, for my personal favor, would prefer Equality.

Feminism (via French féminisme derived from Latin femina 'woman' and -ism) is an umbrella term for social, political and scientific currents and social movements that, on the basis of critical analyses of the gender order, advocate equality, human dignity and self-determination for all people of any gender, as well as against sexism, and seek to implement these goals through appropriate measures. Furthermore, feminism refers to political theories that - beyond individual concerns - focus on the totality of social relations, a fundamental change of the social and symbolic order and gender relations. At the same time, they allow for interpretations and arguments for a critique of society.

Minny even explains this to Derek in Gender Studies.

 

[horusxcaen82]

It's not too surprising if the main LIs are locked out of future romance. You gotta move forward at some point, it's ridiculous to think all the girls are just on hold for you to pick up where you left off at any given time.

Once you've chosen your girlfriend, you should move on with that. Note that the mc even calls things off with Jade when he's made his decision (assuming he chooses someone), so it tells me the "playing the field" time is over.

That's why I keep saying the remainder of the game will be less about relationship building (other than the one the mc is in) and more about the plot.

if I am honest I am glad if it goes this way, the going back and forth between the LI's or other girls was getting kind of tedious, you get a gf you stay friends or not with the ones you didnt choose and you move on, thats how it should be.

 

[dalli_x]

DIK: Full agree (but you disappoint further players cause you stated that they can't play a MC who is the greatest )
NEUTRAL: Full agree, IMO the best way not only in the game but in real life (so also not only transform but also adult)
CHICK: Disagree, sometimes you (IRL and in the game) have to be a chick, but as an overall decision, you wouldn't stand for your own interests. For me, it's a permanent commuting between kid (but not such one who thinks he is the greatest) and adult.

I see CHICK differently. An adult considers possible consequences when making decisions and acts accordingly.

DIK Tommy: With Tommy as president, there would be no more DIK Mansion because he would have just given up. Like a spoiled child lying on the floor screaming and kicking because he can't get ice cream from mom and dad.

NEUTRAL Rusty: He's not an adult yet. But through the MC's speech, Rusty begins to think about himself and realizes that he has been living in this bubble. He develops the ambition to change and become an adult.

CHICK MC: The problem is actually that he grew up too fast. His decision to drop out of high school and not go to San Diego with Zoey clearly shows that. He was shaped by the hardships and bullying in his childhood. He learned early on that he had to work hard to earn something. That's why everyone invites the MC to drink at EP8's dorm party. This is also how he learns to be easygoing and have fun. He goes dancing to Tommy or just starts dancing in the chill zone. The MC starts to learn that there are times when he can be a kid.

There is a difference between a CHICK man (MC) who acts like a kid for a few hours and an adult DIK man who acts like a defiant kid (Tommy). NEUTRAL is just the way to adulthood and cannot be the end of the road. That's why the Major Choice changed in EP8.

DIK/NEUTRAL or NEUTRAL/CHICK. So a DIK who can make a semi-sane decision, or a CHICK who can make a non-serious decision.

In Neil's case, we can see what happens when the MC is DIK and NEUTRAL for too long. Neil was not a chick at the age of 24. In the present he is because he had to be, but his life was full of hardships when Lynette died.