VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [Dr PinkCake]

[DavDR]

It's all quite an odd situation because here we have a MC that is all like, "I really like that girl Josy who I worked with over the summer but she has a boyfriend, but maybe I've still got a chance with her since it doesn't seem to be going well and perhaps we'll be together if she gets in to B&R. Gee, that'd be swell!" But then he gets a blowjob off an unknown person through a glory hole, fucks another unknown person through the same glory hole, makes out with his roommate, fingers his roommate/makes out with this other girl he just met/fucks a random HOT, gets a titjob and blowjob off of the sorority president, flirts with the richest girl on campus and asks her out on a date, makes out with the librarian, gets a blowjob/ass fuck from a stripper, lets his teacher jerk him off in class, and gets a naked thighjob from his roommate/has a threesome with 2 HOTs. Then when Josy shows up, he acts like she was in the wrong because, seriously, how could she do that to him? After all, he was saving himself for her.

Yeah, that reaction is odd from someone who can be a total manwhore.

And sure, this is a porn game so there's supposed to be a level of hedonism, cheating, and unabashed promiscuity without apology for it, but with a game like this that is a cut above the rest in terms of its story delivery, it feels odd giving someone such a moral dilemma when they can be completely amoral most of the time.

Bacchus you know very well that the out come is exactly the same if the MC fucks around or not. You also know that everyone of those side encounters is entirely optional.

As I've said before the MC is only a manwhore if the manwhore playing the game decide's he is.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Bacchus you know very well that the out come is exactly the same if the MC fucks around or not. You also know that everyone of those side encounters is entirely optional.

As I've said before the MC is only a manwhore if the manwhore playing the game decide's he is.

Which is where the issue lies with a game that follow a relatively linear track regardless of choices. If a MC has played the field then you would think that this wouldn't affect him as much as it did because he hasn't been faithful to this person he hoped to have a relationship with, but if he focused all his attention on her, then perhaps it could be understandable.

This is where slight variation in how certain scenes play out can again come in handy, as even if the general events unfold along the same track, at least showing a different side/reaction to a scene based on choices can better reflect the effect of said choices on the characters in question.

 

[ChipLecsap]

For me the wierdest part of M/J storyline is when he find they re both in a relationship and he gets angry and depressed. Is just like:
"Oh no, the girl who is cheting on her girlfriend with me is the girlfriend of the other girl who is cheating on her girlfriend with me. Why life is so unfair? I am not sure if i am going to the room of my friend who is going to drive me to the strip club i normally go, to the house of one of the teachers i am sucesfully trying to fuck or to the house of my friend, the sorority president where i will have sex with 6 different girls. Man this sucks".

 

[Heycock]

Yeah, you got that wrong.

Prior to Josy walking into the dorm and Maya saying that she was her girlfriend, the MC didn't even know that Maya was in a relationship with anyone. It's right there in the game and has been discussed endlessly on this form.

Also the problem that most people have with Josy is that everytime the MC tried to bow out of that relationship Josy practically begged him to stay, leading him on to believe that there was a chance for something more between them and then just dumping him abruptly.

I'm not surprised that you don't understand the scene because it seem's like you havn't even played the game.

It could be, sure. Or maybe we just have different backgrounds and etic opinions. I think that you can't be offended if someone has the same lack of morals you use with them.Thats it

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Also the problem that most people have with Josy is that everytime the MC tried to bow out of that relationship Josy practically begged him to stay, leading him on to believe that there was a chance for something more between them and then just dumping him abruptly.

Another reason why that Ep 4 rejection is botched and would have been better if it was only the friendship option.

 

[Gladheim]

It could be, sure. Or maybe we just have different backgrounds and etic opinions. I think that you can't be offended if someone has the same lack of morals you use with them.Thats it

 

[Heycock]

It's all quite an odd situation because here we have a MC that is all like, "I really like that girl Josy who I worked with over the summer but she has a boyfriend, but maybe I've still got a chance with her since it doesn't seem to be going well and perhaps we'll be together if she gets in to B&R. Gee, that'd be swell!" But then he gets a blowjob off an unknown person through a glory hole, fucks another unknown person through the same glory hole, makes out with his roommate, fingers his roommate/makes out with this other girl he just met/fucks a random HOT, gets a titjob and blowjob off of the sorority president, flirts with the richest girl on campus and asks her out on a date, makes out with the librarian, gets a blowjob/ass fuck from a stripper, lets his teacher jerk him off in class, and gets a naked thighjob from his roommate/has a threesome with 2 HOTs. Then when Josy shows up, he acts like she was in the wrong because, seriously, how could she do that to him? After all, he was saving himself for her.

Yeah, that reaction is odd from someone who can be a total manwhore.

And sure, this is a porn game so there's supposed to be a level of hedonism, cheating, and unabashed promiscuity without apology for it, but with a game like this that is a cut above the rest in terms of its story delivery, it feels odd giving someone such a moral dilemma when they can be completely amoral most of the time.

You just explained perfectly. The MC has to be that guy so the porn part works, but rather he could take the hit in a different way.

 

[DavDR]

It could be, sure. Or maybe we just have different backgrounds and etic opinions. I think that you can't be offended if someone has the same lack of morals you use with them.Thats it

That makes no sense. Who is the MC lying to? Who is he leading on? Who has he deceived?

 

[Gladheim]

Oh yeah babes give it all to me

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Oh yeah babes give it all to me
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Yeah, let's forget about how poorly that scene played out and focus on the good times with these two darlings.

 

[Sylandrical]

Yeah, let's forget about how poorly that scene played out and focus on the good times with these two darlings.

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this is the endgame.

 

[Heycock]

That makes no sense. Who is the MC lying to? Who is he leading on? Who has he deceived?

Come on man. He has been working 5 different girls at least. But you can rise the account up to ¿what, 12?. And sure is not a relationship exactly but Maya and Josy can say the same. Even the MC sometimes think that what he is doing is wrong. We dont care couse is just a fantasy but if you think seriously, well, he isnot exactly loyal.
I will give you still that people are not always fair even when they re inteligent and well intended.

 

[Bill_Buttlicker]

This game is incredible, sad even if the MC felt cheated by Josy + Maya, more Bella is all good

More Bella is best. All others pale in comparison....and they just plain suck ass.

 

[DavDR]

Come on man. He has been working 5 different girls at least. But you can rise the account up to ¿what, 12?. And sure is not a relationship exactly but Maya and Josy can say the same. Even the MC sometimes think that what he is doing is wrong. We dont care couse is just a fantasy but if you think seriously, well, he isnot exactly loyal.
I will give you still that people are not always fair even when they re inteligent and well intended.

OK now I'm convinced that you've never played the game or even read the forum post.

 

[shazba]

OK now I'm convinced that you've never played the game or even read the forum post.

Which part of his comment are you disputing? Here is each of Heycock's comments completely backed up.

"Come on man. He has been working 5 different girls at least." - Maya, Josy, Sage, Jill, Bella (that'd be 5)

"But you can rise the account up to ¿what, 12?" - Ashley , Cathy, Camila, Envy, Jade, Lily, Mel, Mona, Quinn, Sarah, Riona, Rose (that's 12 more, total count could be 17)

" And sure is not a relationship exactly but Maya and Josy can say the same" - the game spends a lot of time suggesting he's not in a serious relationship with anyone by that time.

" Even the MC sometimes think that what he is doing is wrong." - the mc's words when he is talking to the girls during the breakup scene: "

mc "That I rush into things without thinking."​

mc "Everything I've been doing lately has been on impulse."​

mc "Especially when it comes to women."​

and then later at Bella's after the Cathy cluck:

mc "(I'm getting into way too much trouble without even thinking about the consequences...)"​

mc "(I can't keep on doing this. This ends with Hell Week...)"​

​

"We dont care couse is just a fantasy but if you think seriously, well, he isnot exactly loyal." - MC considering that he is playing the field:

mc "(I told her I'm falling for her...)" - talking about Jill​

mc "(That's pretty damn big...)"​

mc "(Am I really?)"​

mc "(I mean, I chose Jill over Sage today...)"​

mc "(We said that there were no strings attached, but what about Maya and Josy?)"​

mc "(Bella...)"​

mc "(I've done things with Bella... Jill's best friend...)"​

mc "(What kind of piece of shit am I?)"​

mc "(How can I say that to Jill when she's not the only one?)"​

mc "(I'm lost... Is that how I feel?)"​

mc "(I've played the field without realizing I'm getting close to more than one girl...)"​

mc "(I need to figure myself out before this leads to anyone getting hurt...)"​

mc "(I hope I'm not past that point already.)"​

So what game are you playing?

 

[Hurensohn Heigl]

Hi again, I keep bothering you guys and I hope you can endure me a little bit more

Thanks to ename144 and fakitap for sheding a new light towards my "study". Indeed, I have neglected the sophisticated XP generation as I strove for efficiency. But since there is no punishment and a potential gain for waste, I have tried my best to do some reworkings.

To make it quick and simple, have a look at the spoiler below.

Spoiler: Mansion Work "Study" V.2

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[Gladheim]

Which part of his comment are you disputing? Here is each of Heycock's comments completely backed up.

"Come on man. He has been working 5 different girls at least." - Maya, Josy, Sage, Jill, Bella (that'd be 5)

"But you can rise the account up to ¿what, 12?" - Ashley , Cathy, Camila, Envy, Jade, Lily, Mel, Mona, Quinn, Sarah, Riona, Rose (that's 12 more, total count could be 17)

" And sure is not a relationship exactly but Maya and Josy can say the same" - the game spends a lot of time suggesting he's not in a serious relationship with anyone by that time.

" Even the MC sometimes think that what he is doing is wrong." - the mc's words when he is talking to the girls during the breakup scene: "

mc "That I rush into things without thinking."​

mc "Everything I've been doing lately has been on impulse."​

mc "Especially when it comes to women."​

and then later at Bella's after the Cathy cluck:

mc "(I'm getting into way too much trouble without even thinking about the consequences...)"​

mc "(I can't keep on doing this. This ends with Hell Week...)"​

​

"We dont care couse is just a fantasy but if you think seriously, well, he isnot exactly loyal." - MC considering that he is playing the field:

mc "(I told her I'm falling for her...)" - talking about Jill​

mc "(That's pretty damn big...)"​

mc "(Am I really?)"​

mc "(I mean, I chose Jill over Sage today...)"​

mc "(We said that there were no strings attached, but what about Maya and Josy?)"​

mc "(Bella...)"​

mc "(I've done things with Bella... Jill's best friend...)"​

mc "(What kind of piece of shit am I?)"​

mc "(How can I say that to Jill when she's not the only one?)"​

mc "(I'm lost... Is that how I feel?)"​

mc "(I've played the field without realizing I'm getting close to more than one girl...)"​

mc "(I need to figure myself out before this leads to anyone getting hurt...)"​

mc "(I hope I'm not past that point already.)"​

So what game are you playing?

I'm already reading his comment saying that all this is optional
Ohhh fresh air

 

[Arigon]

Ok,It seems perfect to me, I have played many of the ones you mention and I like them but they don't even reach the level of this.

That is strictly your opinion, as my own is mine. You will find more and more folks willing to be critical of BaDIK lately, and that will likely grow if he continues to follow his very poorly received review of Acting Lessons. Only fanbois really "LOVE" Acting Lessons. Most think it was ok writing, great renders for a first effort, and one of the best wingmen ever. The story itself-shit.

You cite in another post I had never been near a fire. Following my stint as an aerospace engineer, when Columbia burned up on re-entry, I was forced to find new employment with the US Department of Homeland Security. I have worked in and around fires, floods, earthquakes, riots, in the pandemic control unit, in domestic security, and hurricanes & tornadoes. I am no stranger to dangerous situations. AL had a bullshit premise that in no way could he haul out both girls who were side by side. With the Athletic trait, he should easily have been able to drag them to a window and toss them out. Would they be hurt? Maybe. Would they be dead? Not likely.

Back to BaDIK-
It unquestionably has a huge following. It has turned DPC into a prima donna who thinks he can do no wrong, and made him a millionaire. I am happy for his success. However I used to be a patron of his (banned for pointing out contradictions and some poor writing choices), and have bought this game on steam, I feel that qualifies me as a fan, even if I am not a complete fanboi. I feel that the following is true:

1-DPC is exercising some demons from his psyche
2-Should he continue on this path, he will lose dramatic numbers of supporters, and in future endeavors will find a much reduced audience willing to put themselves through his self therapy.
3- He could find much greater success if he focused on being the artistic part of a TEAM, where someone else writes the story, and DPC writes minimally if at all, but does all the artwork.

Basically the strong points of DPC all get washed out by his glaring errors, unless you are simply looking for fap worthy renders and anims. Even I, an unpublished author, could write a better story, and there are literally dozens of much better than me, authors on here, who would benefit greatly from DPC quality renders, while writing the actual novels themselves.

But it amounts to a matter of taste. I think you will find an increasing number of critics for DPC stories on here, the closer he gets to the end of BaDIK.
Anyhow- Peace man.

 

[AchedCroissant]

DavDR and Arigon are the same person

 

[chaughton22]

Hi again, I keep bothering you guys and I hope you can endure me a little bit more

Thanks to ename144 and fakitap for sheding a new light towards my "study". Indeed, I have neglected the sophisticated XP generation as I strove for efficiency. But since there is no punishment and a potential gain for waste, I have tried my best to do some reworkings.

To make it quick and simple, have a look at the spoiler below.

Spoiler: Mansion Work "Study" V.2

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Thank you for the information, It's a helpful resource. You might consider including a TL;DR section with your most up to date purchasing and assignment advice, but it's good to see the underlying numbers.

I'm sure I'm not the only one who monitors this thread and appreciates theorycrafting like this, Keep up the good work.