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I think, a possible way to decide, what options Neutral will get, aka Chick or Dik, is which one of the scale you have more. You can be neutral but, you either made more chick or dik choice.
Interesting idea, though if that were the case wouldn't we still be able to see the status bar after getting permanent affinity (rather than just listing our affinity)? I think it's more likely the available options in future Major Decisions will be limited by our previous choices (like how we can only fight Caleb if we fought the jocks in Episode 2).


so, that recital... is it worth not skipping with tab? :Kappa:
Worth it or not, DPC saw you coming and disabled the ability to fast forward through the concert (all the concerts, actually). You can bypass the current song entirely if you insist, but holding Tab does nothing. :rolleyes:


Thats fair. I agree it doesn't have a point and thats why I do like it here!

Im talking from the pov that I dont think there are any working morality systems in any game ever. Plots happen anyway with or without it. Any game dev that sets out to make one to describe humanity or a persons actions, thoughts and feelings fails miserably before they even start. All moral systems are bad because people are not that very much alike at all nor thinks the same. With a couple choices or a you few you can generally get most people to agree that its internally consistent but when the choices pile up the branching possible moral viewpoints multiply exponentially and the whole thing shits the bed. Thats why moral systems suck and shouldnt exist unless handled like in BaDik imo(for now).

The "all or nothing" was more a general note on game development and not in regards to BaDik. If you go the other way and want to make morality a part of the game devs simplify it to bring people on board by making the choices so obviously slanted, slaughter all the things vs saving all the things or something like it. Which makes it a pointless system too imo. Thats what I meant about all or nothing. Theres never really room for nuance. With nuance you run into the mentioned exponential outcome problem of people getting angry or confused or unsatisfied with the choices because they dont lead to what they think is fair or reasonable. On a sidenote, if we all in here sat down and looked at every major dik/chick choice I bet we could argue and overturn every single major dik/chick choice to be the reverse of what it is, or change it to neutral at least. Its just the nature of differing human experience and perception.

Thats why I like the system (PRESENTLY) in BaDik. Its kind of a story guide (in the shape of a moral system) than an actual moral system. The MC is largely the same person regardless of what you do imo. Its more about specific choices, and the choices are not forced upon you by the system, yet. IMO nothing fucking breaks immersion like bad good/evil choices if youre forced to take one.

BaDik have yet to force a bad choice on me. And I LOVE it for that.

No other game with a moral system have ever worked and been better for it due to the system. Usually two unsatisfying paragon endings of either moralising virtue or depraved sin with sometimes a third shitty middle ground not leading to any decent ending.
I can't agree that the system is well made: it's insanely overcomplicated, unnecessarily confusing, and the logic behind what qualifies as a 'Major Decision' is at best tortured.

Nonetheless, I am grudgingly forced to agree that it does do its job well enough. It's a simple way to help define the MC's personality, add replay value, and - while the details are highly debatable - the gist of DIK/CHICK dichotomy is easy enough to grasp at first glance.

IMHO DPC could have done better, but even so the game is better off for having the Affinity system in it.
 

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I feel like this game ruined other VN for me this game is just so good!
Does anybody know any other VN on par with this one? I love the writing and world building in this game im having a hard time finding anything remotely as good as this game
 

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I feel like this game ruined other VN for me this game is just so good!
Does anybody know any other VN on par with this one? I love the writing and world building in this game im having a hard time finding anything remotely as good as this game
If you get bored I have three letters for you sir: LoF
 
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Fucking blasphemy!!! You, sir, are not "confident" playing un-SanchoMod'd. You DIK!
Not my screenshot. I don't have save from this point anymore, so I searched one on pornhub :LOL:
If I remember right this is Misterdoktor's gameplay . Yeah those who upload gampley on pornhub , do use your mod.:LOL:
Regardless, the original, was the same. ;)
 

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Not my screenshot. I don't have save from this point anymore, so I searched one on pornhub :LOL:
If I remember right this is Misterdoktor's gameplay . Yeah those who upload gampley on pornhub , do use your mod.:LOL:
Regardless, the original, was the same. ;)
Fucking PornHub whores are worse than us pirates, ain't it? I should put a timebomb in my code if it detects the site to pop up a message of my choosing during certain places in gameplay.... that would be funny as fuck if live-streamed and they didn't know what was coming...
 

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Fucking PornHub whores are worse than us pirates, ain't it? I should put a timebomb in my code if it detects the site to pop up a message of my choosing during certain places in gameplay.... that would be funny as fuck if live-streamed and they didn't know what was coming...
You should write the famous line. " You hurting my Business " :LOL:
 

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I might just RickRoll the shit out of 'em... bud, your post just gave me so many ideas, I didn't know (It's not like I search myself on fucking PornHub) :LOL:
to Be fair, they uploading those sex scenes, what I'm not bothered with myself.
like the Bella scenes. :Kappa:
:LOL::LOL:
 
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You should write the famous line. " You hurting my Business " :LOL:
Just one of dozens I've already thought of: Can you imagine if I timebombed all the lewd scenes to only show that "Panic" button image from... fuck, what was the VN... it had like dogs and balloons and shit on the pic... it was a coded panic button by normally pressing "P".... y'all know WTF I'm talking about, right? That would be funny as hell.
 

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shazba don't be sad bud... I'm just joking around... but not about getting back at the PornHub whores. That shit is in the bag!
 
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