VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

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A little research on achievements in the Steam version. Of course, this will never stop debating which affinity is better or whose waifu is cooler. But from them we can understand what the majority of players prefer. Always loved statistics, interesting science. I don’t know, maybe someone before me did such statistics, I have been actively reading the thread for half a year, but I’ll do it anyway.

Affinity results:
Most players prefer DIK affinity (forgive me those sensitive CHICK players who take other people's choices to heart, but this is reality). Achievement to permanent DIK affinity chosen by 18.2% of players
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The second most popular is the path of Neutral. Balanced path chosen by 14.8% of gamers
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And the least popular is the CHICK affinity. Being a white knight aka Captain America selects a minimum of players - 10%
As you can see, I don't have this achievement.
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Conclusion - the majority loves DIK route

Now no less interesting topic than the previous one - waifu. Steam gives out one of five hidden achievements for choosing a girl at the end of the second season, there are five such choices. On the one hand, it turned out quite predictably, but some came as a surprise to me and differ from the F95 audience tastes .

The most popular waifu on Steam is Sage. That's kind of a trifle, but nice. The achievement "In lieu of a flover" is given for choosing Sage, he is in the lead with 13.8%. A rather poetic name with an idiom referring to Sage's gift of a leaf. Based Steam.
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The second largest group of players do not choose any waifu, preferring to ... fuck everything that moves. And what doesn't move - push and fuck too. 11.6% of players want to bang all the chicks in college. Unknown road goes to Others.
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Are local stand-up artists and trolls ready for rofl and memes? Judging by the cheeky grins, yes. Third place - "Connected road". Jill is chosen by 10.6% of Steam gamers who wanting to be eaten alive wanting a perfect romantic relationship.
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An even smaller part of the players, which is located in 4th place, choose Trouble. This is a very serious decline from the first season, when the main disputes were - Maya or Josy, and one by one they were in the lead in the ranking of girls. But apparently many BaDIK players have Acting Lessons PTSD and don't want to take the risk. Josy/Maya route - 9.5%
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And here is the last one. The smallest result. Just what surprised me. Steam gamers like Bella the less.
It's weird and wonder why? Here she is very popular, few people will say a bad word about her, but nothing more. It's not much less than Josie/Maya, but still the last place. Only 9.4%
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What else is interesting? Most stay with Sage and I can't argue with that. Almost as many more choose to stay with Bella. By the way, the name of the achievement is a reference to one very popular game. And few people stay with Derek, although it seems logical to stay with your bro and share the problem.
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I agree statistics is an interesting study, although the content does help drive my interest . I wonder what players (f95zone or steam) choose initially for their desired route aka what girl appealed to you first. And what girl (or girls) piqued your interest after your first play through.

 

[Blades1138]

A little research on achievements in the Steam version. Of course, this will never stop debating which affinity is better or whose waifu is cooler. But from them we can understand what the majority of players prefer. Always loved statistics, interesting science. I don’t know, maybe someone before me did such statistics, I have been actively reading the thread for half a year, but I’ll do it anyway.

Affinity results:
Most players prefer DIK affinity (forgive me those sensitive CHICK players who take other people's choices to heart, but this is reality). Achievement to permanent DIK affinity chosen by 18.2% of players
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The second most popular is the path of Neutral. Balanced path chosen by 14.8% of gamers
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And the least popular is the CHICK affinity. Being a white knight aka Captain America selects a minimum of players - 10%
As you can see, I don't have this achievement.
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Conclusion - the majority loves DIK route

Now no less interesting topic than the previous one - waifu. Steam gives out one of five hidden achievements for choosing a girl at the end of the second season, there are five such choices. On the one hand, it turned out quite predictably, but some came as a surprise to me and differ from the F95 audience tastes .

The most popular waifu on Steam is Sage. That's kind of a trifle, but nice. The achievement "In lieu of a flover" is given for choosing Sage, he is in the lead with 13.8%. A rather poetic name with an idiom referring to Sage's gift of a leaf. Based Steam.
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The second largest group of players do not choose any waifu, preferring to ... fuck everything that moves. And what doesn't move - push and fuck too. 11.6% of players want to bang all the chicks in college. Unknown road goes to Others.
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Are local stand-up artists and trolls ready for rofl and memes? Judging by the cheeky grins, yes. Third place - "Connected road". Jill is chosen by 10.6% of Steam gamers who wanting to be eaten alive wanting a perfect romantic relationship.
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An even smaller part of the players, which is located in 4th place, choose Trouble. This is a very serious decline from the first season, when the main disputes were - Maya or Josy, and one by one they were in the lead in the ranking of girls. But apparently many BaDIK players have Acting Lessons PTSD and don't want to take the risk. Josy/Maya route - 9.5%
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And here is the last one. The smallest result. Just what surprised me. Steam gamers like Bella the less.
It's weird and wonder why? Here she is very popular, few people will say a bad word about her, but nothing more. It's not much less than Josie/Maya, but still the last place. Only 9.4%
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What else is interesting? Most stay with Sage and I can't argue with that. Almost as many more choose to stay with Bella. By the way, the name of the achievement is a reference to one very popular game. And few people stay with Derek, although it seems logical to stay with your bro and share the problem.
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I'm not surprised by affinity preference results. What I don't get is why you keep implying that one is better than the other just because of their names ? Have you even played CHICK path to back up your white-knighting claim ? Literally the actual most pussy action - rejecting sex with Sage happens every single time, it's not by making a CHICK choice.

DPC is dumb for naming them that way, as it "manly guys" will automatically make DIK choices to feed their egos. Don't understand me wrong - for me neither path is superior, in fact I think this system sucks. You can go for CHICK path and still bang a lot of girls, or vice versa. Get your head out of the gutter and start seeing it for what it is - a bullshit lockout system.

 

[felicemastronzo]

I wouldn't compare the steam results to the f95 results
for instance, steam people paid for the game to start with
meanwhile, all of us here are a bunch of pervs playing for free but arguing about it the most

from what I've heard about DPC's discord server, you'll get attacked from literally everyone if you say DPC is leeching and lots of those people actually support him on patreon. yet most of the people who write accusations of such things on f95 have never supported DPC with a single cent and would rather HURT HIS BUSSINESS

so, basically, how I'd see the situation
- steam results come from a bit more sane people who perhaps have something better to do than argue about steven and goblin queens
- f95 is... go through just this thread. no need to go looking for "INCEST???" or "HAREM???" people. and draw your own conclusions for the community here
and the rest of us obviously like it that it's that way. otherwise we wouldn't be around.

tl;dr - steam: people, f95: not. don't compare.

also on f95 99% of users just play, maybe they don't even know there is a forum...

or Derek will give his life to save MC and his girl

now that would be an interesting turn of events....

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

I wouldn't compare the steam results to the f95 results
for instance, steam people paid for the game to start with
meanwhile, all of us here are a bunch of pervs playing for free but arguing about it the most

from what I've heard about DPC's discord server, you'll get attacked from literally everyone if you say DPC is leeching and lots of those people actually support him on patreon. yet most of the people who write accusations of such things on f95 have never supported DPC with a single cent and would rather HURT HIS BUSSINESS

so, basically, how I'd see the situation
- steam results come from a bit more sane people who perhaps have something better to do than argue about steven and goblin queens
- f95 is... go through just this thread. no need to go looking for "INCEST???" or "HAREM???" people. and draw your own conclusions for the community here
and the rest of us obviously like it that it's that way. otherwise we wouldn't be around.

tl;dr - steam: people, f95: not. don't compare.

don't think that we are all very different from the owners of a licensed game. Many of us are simply from poor countries and cannot afford to pay for Patreon. Of course, tastes in different communities may differ, for example, I concluded that Jill is very fond of Reddit. I didn't hear anyone laughing at her there. Patreon DPC also loves her very much - it is the patrons who decide who to portray on special renders. Jill is in the lead there. In general, they have very strange tastes. What does Sally do in special renders anyway? She's not even an SG! But she has more renders than main LI Josy and Maya.

 

[felicemastronzo]

don't think that we are all very different from the owners of a licensed game. Many of us are simply from poor countries and cannot afford to pay for Patreon. Of course, tastes in different communities may differ, for example, I concluded that Jill is very fond of Reddit. I didn't hear anyone laughing at her there. Patreon DPC also loves her very much - it is the patrons who decide who to portray on special renders. Jill is in the lead there. In general, they have very strange tastes. What does Sally do in special renders anyway? She's not even an SG! But she has more renders than main LI Josy and Maya.

In every community, currents are created and some of them take over, pushing the others to a more cautious attitude. Then on the internet even worse as usually the one who shouts the loudest wins. I consider steam data more reliable than the impression I get from reading here and there

 

[dalli_x]

In every community, currents are created and some of them take over, pushing the others to a more cautious attitude. Then on the internet even worse as usually the one who shouts the loudest wins. I consider steam data more reliable than the impression I get from reading here and there

Steam is not meaningful for me. The reason is that Being a DIK is not available for purchase on Steam in some countries. This excludes cultural groups that have a different value system and thus skews such statistics.

Actually, you can't trust any statistic because you can twist and turn it however you want.

The best thing is and remains that every player plays BaDIK the way he wants to and forms his own opinion.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Steam is not meaningful for me. The reason is that Being a DIK is not available for purchase on Steam in some countries. This excludes cultural groups that have a different value system and thus skews such statistics.

Actually, you can't trust any statistic because you can twist and turn it however you want.

The best thing is and remains that every player plays BaDIK the way he wants to and forms his own opinion.

I didn't say that steam statistics are gospel, but they are certainly more reliable than the (highly subjective) impression one can get from reading this forum or others.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Steam is not meaningful for me. The reason is that Being a DIK is not available for purchase on Steam in some countries. This excludes cultural groups that have a different value system and thus skews such statistics.

Actually, you can't trust any statistic because you can twist and turn it however you want.

The best thing is and remains that every player plays BaDIK the way he wants to and forms his own opinion.

Let me guess. Germany?

 

[Ottoeight]

That may be the point, Zoey in Fuckface's eyes is fundamentally different to Zoey in the interlude. The way Zoey is coming back into the story will be different than how the Zoey that Fuckface remembers would enter the story.

Zoey from Fuckface's memory would stroll straight into the story and if she wanted Fuckface back would not care who she hurt in her pursuit of him. Zoey from the interlude will have conflicting emotions, especially if Fuckface isn't on the others branch.

Zoey from Fuckface's memory was a confident outsider, however we now know she likes to make friends, but also now one of those friends betrayed her so she's going to be timid around the girls in college, if you threw the phone then Zoey would probably be putting on a front to avoid getting close to new people, if you don't throw the phone then Zoey would be scared to do so.

I have to call bullshit on this, given we had zero information about Zoey's relationship with her grandma, the reasons she left for San Diego and a number of other elements you even list yourself, which were only shown in the interlude. So we absolutely didn't "already know" these things.

You didn't personally find these things interesting, that's fine. But i strongly disagree with the idea that negative things we learn about characters aren't interesting. Flaws and shortcomings are vital in character building.

It's still the same girl. She's still the person who has taught the MC things. Except now thanks to the interlude you know more about her, and you've seen other side(s) of her. But these extra things you've seen aren't to your liking and contradict your initial impression of her; so it seems you'd rather they didn't exist, and call them worthless.

She's not the same girl.

The whole story is told by MC talking about his past, except the Interlude, which is told by Zoey. That's why the Interlude is the Interlude, and this is why the Interlude is pointless in terms of the narrative.

Whole story = told by MC
Interlude = told by Zoey

 

[Ottoeight]

I wouldn't compare the steam results to the f95 results
for instance, steam people paid for the game to start with
meanwhile, all of us here are a bunch of pervs playing for free but arguing about it the most

from what I've heard about DPC's discord server, you'll get attacked from literally everyone if you say DPC is leeching and lots of those people actually support him on patreon. yet most of the people who write accusations of such things on f95 have never supported DPC with a single cent and would rather HURT HIS BUSSINESS

so, basically, how I'd see the situation
- steam results come from a bit more sane people who perhaps have something better to do than argue about steven and goblin queens
- f95 is... go through just this thread. no need to go looking for "INCEST???" or "HAREM???" people. and draw your own conclusions for the community here
and the rest of us obviously like it that it's that way. otherwise we wouldn't be around.

tl;dr - steam: people, f95: not. don't compare.

Honestly, I think anyone who loves this game is playing different gameplays. I've been playing a DIK path and a CHICK path - at least - since episode 1, since it was crystal clear to me that playing as a DIK and playing as a CHICK were both great.

Now, it is obvious since episode 1 final screen that there are 5 main love interests and it is obvious since episode 3 that having a DIK affinity is no good if you pursue 4 of these main love interests.

So, my guess is that almost everybody who loves this game has been playing different gameplays with different affinities - DIK, CHICK, NEUTRAL.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

In every community, currents are created and some of them take over, pushing the others to a more cautious attitude. Then on the internet even worse as usually the one who shouts the loudest wins. I consider steam data more reliable than the impression I get from reading here and there

Social interaction on the internet these days is just the perfect interpretation of the "I love democracy" irony.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Social interaction on the internet these days is just the perfect interpretation of the "I love democracy" irony.
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The worst is that reality tends to look more and more like the virtual...

 

[dE_VoYd]

He is planning to release in November !! He is making sure all of us fail the NNN

 

[Kassandara]

He is planning to release in November !! He is making sure all of us fail the NNN

Jokes on him, I've never participated in it

 

[nyrek]

Of course, tastes in different communities may differ, for example, I concluded that Jill is very fond of Reddit. I didn't hear anyone laughing at her there. Patreon DPC also loves her very much - it is the patrons who decide who to portray on special renders. Jill is in the lead there

exactly my point
laugh at her on dpc's discord HOW DARE YOU
laugh at her here, you get a few likes, depending on how good the post was and the rest of the page are mostly goblin jokes and shrek pictures
so, as I said, no point in comparing preferences

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

exactly my point
laugh at her on dpc's discord HOW DARE YOU
laugh at her here, you get a few likes, depending on how good the post was and the rest of the page are mostly goblin jokes and shrek pictures
so, as I said, no point in comparing preferences

Sometimes there is a reaction from Jill's fans to what is happening, quite a sharp reaction. Brave people.

 

[NebulousShooter]

or Derek will give his life to save MC and his girl

I bet some Italian users on this site would have no problem with that.

I'm not surprised by affinity preference results. What I don't get is why you keep implying that one is better than the other just because of their names ? Have you even played CHICK path to back up your white-knighting claim ? Literally the actual most pussy action - rejecting sex with Sage happens every single time, it's not by making a CHICK choice.

DPC is dumb for naming them that way, as it "manly guys" will automatically make DIK choices to feed their egos. Don't understand me wrong - for me neither path is superior, in fact I think this system sucks. You can go for CHICK path and still bang a lot of girls, or vice versa. Get your head out of the gutter and start seeing it for what it is - a bullshit lockout system.

Why are you such an enemy of self awareness? You complain of others implying some choices are better while at the same time implying that people that don't play and think the same way you do have an ego problem, they are insecure, they need to overcompensate for something? Its been a week now and you still don't seem to get a clue.

The best thing is and remains that every player plays BaDIK the way he wants to and forms his own opinion.

This could very well be a John Cena tweet. Saying something mundane, phrased in a way to seem meaningful and deep, yet say absolutely nothing at the same time.

 

[rainnnnnn]

Does anyone else feel like shit when he sleeps with Jade when doing a Bella run but not when sleeping with every other girl (while doing a Bella run)

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

I bet some Italian users on this site would have no problem with that.



Why are you such an enemy of self awareness? You complain of others implying some choices are better while at the same time implying that people that don't play and think the same way you do have an ego problem, they are insecure, they need to overcompensate for something? Its been a week now and you still don't seem to get a clue.

Just what I thought. Incredibly inflated ego, lashing out at people who choose a different path while kicking into overprotective mode when someone criticizes his path. It's strange to hear from a person who says that he chooses Neutral, but at the same time protects CHICK at every opportunity.
And I just shared the statistics and concluded that the majority of players choose.

 

[Cabin Fever]

And I just shared the statistics and concluded that the majority of players choose.

I really don't have an opinion in the CHICK vs DIK debate but one thing is for sure - for someone who claims to love statistics, you sure have a poor understanding of it - 18.2% (or ~42% if you weed out those who haven't reached a permanent affinity yet) is not the majority. By definition, a majority mean 50%+1. The fact is, the majority (~58% of people that have reached a permanent affinity) is NOT on the DIK path.