VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[NewTricks]

Quinn and Zoey? Nah. It is more likely that Josy and Zoey know each other, which is potentially much more interesting.

 

[Sancho1969]

Totally agree. I am not against fans liking Quinn more than Jill, but using that moment to justify their dislike towards her doesn't work for me; Jilly Bean was bullied during her childhood, she sees Tremolo getting beat up by Chad and believes he was being bullied just like her many years ago. I don't think she did the right call, but contrary to Quinn, she did it because she wanted to help Tremolo and even apologize about it later on. Apparently that sole action of Jill telling the teachers about Tremolo's fight is much worse and unforgivable than Quintessential mistreating and humilliating fellow students, never apologizing for her actions, and manipulating Sage to gain money for her business and other girls so they can join her "restaurant".

IMHO there's no need to over analyze the two. Both fall into the same bucket category as " X has a face only a mother could love ". In other words " love is blind " and folks' infatuation with a particular " LI " will likely be defended beyond reasonable common sense or otherwise rational thought processes. Such is human nature I reckon.

 

[Deleted member 3691867]

Anyway, you really, really, really don't need to worry about it. There is zero chance of DPC involving one of the core love interests in a MMF threesome. Which really rather makes this entire conversation redundant and a waste of both of our time.

In recent months the issue of NTR hasn't stopped being discussed here with the same points. If BADIK had NTR/Sharing I would understand, but it doesn't and we already know that it won't have it (in terms of MMF, it seems that with Elena and John Boy it could happen, but who knows) because three and a half years passed and almost 99% of the sexual content is focused on the MC (Interlude had the first full sex scene that has nothing to do with the MC nor anybody who he knows). I think even the custom renders of the LIs are centered around the MC or between the LIs themselves. DPC hasn't shown himself as a dev who adds kinks to his VNs out of the blue (although he likes fire) and his donors don't seem to be interested in that and even if some of them were I don't think DPC would care, he seems like someone going their own way. Something that is highly recommended and praised here, right? Follow your own plan and not be manipulated by one side or the other to add what they want.

Now what I am wondering is the following. Why is this discussion still being talked every half month? Whenever somebody talks about this there's a lot of presumption as to why NTR/sharing isn't in the game, mainly blaming DPC patreon donors for being too "vanilla" (derogative term for anyone who doesn't like that content), with the Interlude that "Zoey was not with anyone else since she separated from the MC, it's something tragic and unrealistic", it's a bad argument for the simple reason that this game doesn't follow a realistic path and we already know it, something that here some blame the donors because it would be seen as NTR or something and DPC would lose money (he would have to do something really stupid to lose the amount of money he earns). At this point, so many times it has been discussed, these arguments seem to be made in bad faith, for the simple reason that the content/plot that you like has not been added, content/plot that was never promised or owed to anybody.
Three and a half years that the game has been in development and someone thinks that DPC out of nowhere is going to add sharing with the main LIs or even the side LIs? Elena may be because she doesn't fall into any of those categories and she's already been in a relationship since the game started and they would be the ones to share in that situation.

I'm pretty sure that the same ones who repeat this pointless discussion here are the ones who complain all the time in other threads new or otherwise about precisely this, the eternal discussion about NTR and if the game has it. But here we are, the NTR discussion being repeated here for no justifiable reason (it has nothing to do with Maya and Josy who would be one of the only reasons to discuss this) from people claiming to be fed up with it.
I understand that the waiting time causes a lot of offtopic and that kind of thing but of all the things that can be discussed, this discussion that we already have in most of the other threads, which reaches the point of exhaustion.
One thing that surprises me is that the mods do nothing about this discussion considering that there is no reason for it to be repeated so much, this already reaches offtopic. From what I've seen in other threads they delete most of the comments when there is too much discussion about NTR and some other things.

Want a college-themed game with that content? Play Fetish Locator, it has that and it seems that the last updates that are going to finish the game will have more of that.

Calling a group 'vanilla babies' isn't kink shaming. They don't have a kink. At best it's 'lack of kink shaming'. But that's semantics anyway.

No offense but that's bullshit. Just because a lot of people don't like/are against NTR/Sharing/MMF doesn't mean they don't have other kinks. Those aren't the only kinks and they aren't even the most popular.

 

[ffive]

I don't think she has, but we'll see if it leads to anything.

Do you mean you don't think Quinn has done worse things to the MC that Jill did?

Quinn has literally knocked the MC out with a taser. For no reason other than she just felt like it. You really don't think this is far worse than telling college supervisors someone was physically assaulted and they should intervene?

 

[Sancho1969]

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One thing that surprises me is that the mods do nothing about this discussion considering that there is no reason for it to be repeated so much, this already reaches offtopic.
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And yet you write a fucking wall of text discussing the exact same thing and feeding trolls. This is what should be surprising to you, no?

 

[Deleted member 3691867]

And yet you write a fucking wall of text discussing the exact same thing and feeding trolls. This is what should be surprising to you, no?

I'm not the one arguing why DPC doesn't add NTR/sharing every now and then but why it is even discussed to begin with. There is an important difference between the two. But I understand what you mean.
And if they are trolls, why do they seem to dominate the thread and this is discussed more often?

 

[SomboSteel]

I do not think that is the reason. DPC himself wrote so that he already has ideas for another game after BaDIK.

In my opinion, DPC gets lost in the details of the story of BaDIK. On the one hand, that's great, because then the story gains more and more depth. But on the other hand, he has to depict it graphically, which is enormously time-consuming.

He should think about doing 5 seasons and reducing the EP's again. But that's for DPC to decide.

im not saying he will do this game indefinitely. what i am saying is that he is in no rush to finish any faster. making another game after BaDIK is a risk, whereas this game consistently prints him money. i dont think he will extend the game unnecessarily, but one update per calendar yet would net him tons of cash and not be enough to anger the majority of his patrons

 

[Deleted member 3788572]

NTR hardly dominates this thread. There's one user who brings it up every few weeks/months and the occasional clueless newbie asking questions once in a while. It's really not an issue imo.

 

[felicemastronzo]

I do not think that is the reason. DPC himself wrote so that he already has ideas for another game after BaDIK.

In my opinion, DPC gets lost in the details of the story of BaDIK. On the one hand, that's great, because then the story gains more and more depth. But on the other hand, he has to depict it graphically, which is enormously time-consuming.

He should think about doing 5 seasons and reducing the EP's again. But that's for DPC to decide.

anything can be, but from his weekly reports i wouldn't say so. he hardly ever talks about the writing phase, about any difficulties encountered in getting this or that scene back, to my recollection only once did he refer to a scene he had been planning for some time and was finally making.

always in the foreground the animations, their incredible number, their fantastic length, and then the endless count of renders (unless there is a minigame involved, which then overshadow everything)

as far as going forward the branching of the story inevitably leads to an enlargement of the episodes, so much of the responsibility has to do with the willingness to increase the animated part enormously and not only in the sex scenes.

 

[TheAnimence8]

Long term lurker here, I think DPC is probably doing his best, and while there can be thoughts of him taking his time just so he can milk the project, which can be a real concern with how a lot of big time games end up getting abandoned, I don't really see it, while I'm not a paetron or anything. Also the fact he gives weekly updates and talks of future games makes me more optimistic.
I know nothing about renpy when it comes to coding and whatnot, but I imagine the animations and what not are what probably is taking a lot.
Regardless, will be worth the wait cause its still the best porn game out atm imo.
Thank you, this has been my ted talk.

 

[dalli_x]

Until we get told otherwise in story it's safe to assume that Quinn and Zoey don't know each other.

However it is perfectly possible, Zoey is a stoner like Quinn, so if they are from the same hometown the likelihood is that they would know each other. Quinn and Fuckface have never talked about life before B&R so we don't know where Quinn is from and Quinn doesn't know where Fuckface is from.

That's interesting. Quinn and the MC never actually saw each other before B&R. It may be coincidence that Quinn fell in love with the MC when she first saw him and bullied Maya about it, I'll write it that way for simplicity.

But I think one thing is not a coincidence. Quinn brought a shocker when Maya rubbed the MC. That suggests to me that Quinn knows about the MC's power and martial arts abilities. I mean, the MC can beat up four jocks in EP2. Three girls don't stand a chance.

The question that comes to my mind is how does Quinn know this? The first possibility would be Josy. Quinn said yes, so she was on the phone with Josy. But if it wasn't Josy, then who was it? According to the MC's narrative, Zoey was a wild girl when he met her. Zoey and Quinn are about the same age, and Zoey and the MC's hometown is only a half-hour train ride from B&R. Yes, Zoey and Quinn knowing each other is speculation, but it is possible. I would add that Zoey's stepfather, Floyd, bears some resemblance to Tommy.

Tommy asks the MC in EP4 if he has brothers or sisters. Tommy asks about siblings in the plural. This suggests to me that Tommy could have more than one sister and/or even one or more additional brothers. If Zoey is supposed to be another stepsister of Tommy's, I can very well imagine why Tommy is so angry with the MC. The MC is dating two of his stepsisters, and poor Tommy is caught in the middle.

Through Tommy, Quinn and Zoey could get to know each other. But then Josy and Zoey would probably know each other too, and Josy would probably have known Quinn before. Coming full circle, Quinn brings the shocker.

 

[TuffyTenToes]

Anyways, um... I bought a whole bunch of shungite rocks, do you know what shungite is? Anybody know what shungite is?
No, not Suge Knight, I think he's locked up in prison. I'm talkin' shungite.
Anyways, it's a two billion year-old like, rock stone that protects against frequencies and unwanted frequencies that may be traveling in the air.

That's my story, I bought a whole bunch of stuff. Put 'em around the la casa. Little pyramids, stuff like that.

 

[Kassandara]

Long term lurker here, I think DPC is probably doing his best, and while there can be thoughts of him taking his time just so he can milk the project, which can be a real concern with how a lot of big time games end up getting abandoned, I don't really see it, while I'm not a paetron or anything. Also the fact he gives weekly updates and talks of future games makes me more optimistic.

I heard this has been kind of an issue for the biggest "adult game" on Patreon for a while now. Don't play it myself but friend of mine has been supporting the game for years now and I heard it's getting ridiculous. There is rarely any updates etc. The dev has apparently lost a couple thousand patrons over the summer alone

 

[TheAnimence8]

I heard this has been kind of an issue for the biggest "adult game" on Patreon for a while now. Don't play it myself but friend of mine has been supporting the game for years now and I heard it's getting ridiculous. There is rarely any updates etc. The dev has apparently lost a couple thousand patrons over the summer alone

Really, didn't know that, is it people just being impatient or is it some other drama, I don't tend to lurk the threads nowadays like I used to tbh

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Long term lurker here, I think DPC is probably doing his best, and while there can be thoughts of him taking his time just so he can milk the project, which can be a real concern with how a lot of big time games end up getting abandoned, I don't really see it, while I'm not a paetron or anything. Also the fact he gives weekly updates and talks of future games makes me more optimistic.
I know nothing about renpy when it comes to coding and whatnot, but I imagine the animations and what not are what probably is taking a lot.
Regardless, will be worth the wait cause its still the best porn game out atm imo.
Thank you, this has been my ted talk.

You guessed right with the animations, and besides that, the renders. There are more and more of them with each episode, and their posing and processing take time. In addition, the quality of the graphics has increased compared to what it was at the beginning of the game. Here are some examples for comparison:

Spoiler: Graphics improvements

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Improvements:
Dynamic lighting system, soft shadows, (HBAO probably), volumetric hair, higher texture resolution, more polygons for models. Reflections in the latest episodes, and especially in the Ep9 preview, are not inferior to modern AAA games. And despite the fact that the DPC has been buying new hardware, it needs more and more processing power. Because he keeps improving his product. I wouldn't be surprised if he buys a mining farm and adds ray tracing to his animations.
It's an incredible feeling when you look at the graphics like this, comparing old screenshots with new ones. It's like going back to 2007 all over again and seeing Crysis for the first time.

 

[Deleted member 3691867]

NTR hardly dominates this thread. There's one user who brings it up every few weeks/months and the occasional clueless newbie asking questions once in a while. It's really not an issue imo.

In recent months NTR has been discussed many times and yes, after some time the discussion dies, the thing is, it's brought back every half a month.
Just searching for "NTR" with the search function gives the results of what I'm talking about, at least 2 times a month this is discussed for like 10 pages of 20 posts. It seems to me that for a game that doesn't have it, it's discussed an awful lot.

 

[dempun]

Do you mean you don't think Quinn has done worse things to the MC that Jill did?

Quinn has literally knocked the MC out with a taser. For no reason other than she just felt like it. You really don't think this is far worse than telling college supervisors someone was physically assaulted and they should intervene?

Nope, I don't think that was any worse.

 

[TheAnimence8]

You guessed right with the animations, and besides that, the renders. There are more and more of them with each episode, and their posing and processing take time. In addition, the quality of the graphics has increased compared to what it was at the beginning of the game. Here are some examples for comparison:

Spoiler: Graphics improvements

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Improvements:
Dynamic lighting system, soft shadows, (HBAO probably), volumetric hair, higher texture resolution, more polygons for models. Reflections in the latest episodes, and especially in the Ep9 preview, are not inferior to modern AAA games. And despite the fact that the DPC has been buying new hardware, it needs more and more processing power. Because he keeps improving his product. I wouldn't be surprised if he buys a mining farm and adds ray tracing to his animations.
It's an incredible feeling when you look at the graphics like this, comparing old screenshots with new ones. It's like going back to 2007 all over again and seeing Crysis for the first time.

its partially why I think the games the best, the constant improvements, the writing, and the girls themselves are all great, also the fact you can have very different paths depending on which route you go is what puts it above and beyond most of games. As sated above I mostly just lurk but I'm curious as to why people are hating on the game just for its wait. Like afaik DPC is still working solo on the project which is insane when you think about it

 

[dalli_x]

im not saying he will do this game indefinitely. what i am saying is that he is in no rush to finish any faster. making another game after BaDIK is a risk, whereas this game consistently prints him money. i dont think he will extend the game unnecessarily, but one update per calendar yet would net him tons of cash and not be enough to anger the majority of his patrons

I know what you mean. But one thing we know about DPC. He enjoys his work and doesn't go easy on himself. I really believe that EP10 will be finished faster than EP9.

In EP9 there will be 5 playable branches. They will be structured like the 3 branches of EP4. DPC has written that he wants to give each of the 5 branches about the same amount of content so that none of the girls are disadvantaged. That sounds like a lot of work to me.

The way I see it, he's going to turn 5 girl subplots and the 1 main story into 6 main stories in EP9. Then in EP10 he will go back to the 5 subplots and the 1 main story as in EP5.

But that's speculation. I guess we will have to wait and see if there will only be 1 update per year. Personally, I hope not. If there is, I will consider cutting back on my financial support. Unless EP9 blows my mind and I'm flattened.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

its partially why I think the games the best, the constant improvements, the writing, and the girls themselves are all great, also the fact you can have very different paths depending on which route you go is what puts it above and beyond most of games. As sated above I mostly just lurk but I'm curious as to why people are hating on the game just for its wait. Like afaik DPC is still working solo on the project which is insane when you think about it

Just a small group of "couch experts" who know better than PinkCake how he should do his job.