allanl9020142

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There's no shame in recognizing the flaws of a product you like and wanting it to be better.
I don't see the problem with criticisms. Though, I don't really care too much about how good or bad the writing is for BADIK. It's one of those games where it hits all the right notes for me. As long as there are no egregious grammar/spelling errors and the overall tones are communicated then I'm just fine.
Finding and acknowledging flaws in a product is fine too but I don't see the point in going on and on about it as if you dislike the game. If I find something in a game that I don't like that leads me to disliking the game to that extent then I just leave a bad review and drop it.
I mean even if DPC still lurks on this forum sometimes, it's not like he's going to respond well to someone leading with his writing being terrible.
 

lipe2410

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join them to visit the Burkes at the end of Episode 8
Just a little correction that is Sage who asks MC to go with them meet her parents. Even if players are in MJ path. And there is a choice to make MC said that he will go because Sage is ask him to go or because of Maya.
 
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Just a little correction that is Sage who asks MC to go with them meet her parents. Even if players are in MJ path. And there is a choice to make MC said that he will go because Sage is ask him to go or because of Maya.
I am aware. But whether or not Sage requested his presence, I very much doubt an MC who was flat out rejected by Maya and Josy would accompany them (unless he was on Sage's branch instead, I suppose). Trying to "just be friends" with them in that particular circumstance is a recipe for disaster, even if he still cares for them. Hell, especially if he still cares for them.
 
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Popular = good. Yeah. I guess 50 shades of gray is one of the greatest novels of all time.:rolleyes:
It'll depend on your definition of "greatest". It wouldn't be very hard to argue few "novels of all time" can claim having as much impact on sexual practices of average people as this one did. Mainly due to its popularity, yes.
 

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The saddest part of it being somewhat popular (Not actually in the top 20 or anything) is that it is BDSM as written by someone who overheard a conversation about a TV show about a book that said the word BDSM

So I doubt it added much to sexual practices.
It had allegedly doubled number of recorded ER visits due to bdsm-related accidents not long after gaining popularity, because as you note it's not any good at conveying proper ways one should go about it. What i meant by impact was that it evidently caused tons of people to actually experiment with these concepts (and without doubt many, many more to even consider and/or discuss them) when they otherwise wouldn't.

To drag it back kicking and screaming somewhat back on topic, it's something no AVN can really claim, Being a DIK included. /s
 

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I didnt really understand this part, after MC goes to Bella's house to talk to Cathy, why exactly did Jill and Bella have that little fight and Jill had to sleep in the sofa with MC?
 

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I didnt really understand this part, after MC goes to Bella's house to talk to Cathy, why exactly did Jill and Bella have that little fight and Jill had to sleep in the sofa with MC?
It's never explained in game, at least up to this point.

Popular guess is Jill has humped Bella in her sleep, kind of like she can do it with MC, and Bella didn't appreciate it very much.
 

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He did seem rather surprised by the fact that MC had gotten some Quinn action, and somebody else had commented that Quinn doesn't usually kiss boys. Maybe Tommy had been trying to get some and she shut him down because she's more into the girls?
I think the chink in Quinn's armor is when MC actually cares (beyond the throw away statement of she thought MC was a "white knight pussy"). Her texts to MC speak as someone that is in rabid fear of letting her guard down but at the same time very distant hints of liking MC. Other: I thought it was interesting that she asked MC over to hang out (after gaining some trust of him). There wasn't a time limit. Just an easy hangout. And my thinking on that is that every single other person on that campus is an adversary or someone to dominate to keep her several business plans going. Deep down, she doesn't see MC as getting in the way of her business plan or other interests, but with all the other signs, Quinn ultimately likes MC. It is sweet story telling, even if Quinn treats other people horribly.
 
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You know, it occurs to me that this is exactly the sort of exchange that seems like an innocent joke about incest games now, but would take on a whole new meaning if it turns out Bella had a miscarriage. Just saying.
I got to be honest, I never actually thought about that, but would be the kind of thing that in hindsight will make you taste foot. :cry:

Acting Lessons. Sigh.

Okay, here's the thing. AL is a very well-crafted game with excellent character work and a lot of good bits. But it's also a fucking bait and switch. The game is not what it presents itself as for the first 6 chapters. The end of the game not only takes a famously dark turn, but that turn doesn't flow out of the events leading up to it. It just pops up out of nowhere and completely changes the tone of the game, practically wallowing in misery by the final episode. The endings can have some nice, bittersweet moments depending on how you play, but the emphasis is mostly on the bitter half.

As long as you know that going in, I think you'll be fine if you want to try it (assuming you can handle dark stories, obviously).
Now I don't know if you played it live and if you were misled about tags, or the dev's posts AND since by the time I played it I was spoiled about any possible twists in the story I can't make the claim that I'm 100% sure, but I'd like to think I would not have been blindsided about the big event. Predicting the exact thing that would happen and the culprit absolutely not, but growing up in post communist eastern Europe, I would have 1000% expected something extremely bad to happen(Sexual assault, shooting, knife, drug gangs) from dealing with people like Rena's bf and Peter. I don't want to offend anyone, since its just my supposition, I might talk out of my ass, but this seems to be the kind of thing sheltered first-world people from western countries, that live in a world where words are violence and don't know how bad, 'bad' actually is would get blindsided by.

Again, if the tags/devs promised comedy and then come later seasons he pulled a Ryan Johnson, then fair enough, but from what I've seen and I've read every post in the AL thread from start-to-date when I went and played it, it seems to me people were just shocked a dev in this genre of games actually went there, or upset he fucked with their waifus, or my favorite bulshit reasoning 'I don't play games to get sad'... I don't have an opinion from a storytelling perspective, but from a gameplay one, yeah, he probably should have made this avoidable, or affectable by player choices. The only thing I take issue with is the 'getting blindsided' aspect of it.

Fun fact, only 2 people in the entire thread predicted the exact guilty person and ending and most aspects of their theory crafting were just hunches. I don't know what that says about DPC's writing, was he too good, or complete shit at setting things up? You make your own conclusion, I just found it interesting.
 
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I don't think we need to compare BaDIK to TV shows with millions in budget.
Even compared to itself - in earlier updates the story wasn't dragging as much, nor was it so filled with melodrama.
The very few first episodes of BaDIK are spent with MC acting like a butthurt snowflake over a twist straight from soap opera, and dragging the plot out for the sake of drama. It's commonly brought up as the game's weak point.

I think you're letting your prejudice cloud your memory and judgement.
 
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