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I am pretty sure Maya's father is supposed to be a car salesman and they live local, so if its him, probably no mistake. I don't remember anything about what job Josy's dad has.
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yeah its Mayas father.
And Maya is a local, they live near college, she said that in the first encounter with her that she was many time on campus and knows it cause they live near by.
Cant really remember if its mentioned what the job of her father is, but its definitly him in chapter 8 buying rustys car. So he is obviously a car salesman... maybe even own the business?
Josys family lives far away, like MC too... need some hours drive by train/car. And we saw her dad in episode 5... btw nice guy, wouldnt hurt to see him more often, visit Josy or maybe MC+Josy visit him, show him they are a couple and such... of course, more Neil is a must too.
I only played it ONCE in a playthrough to fail the mansion game on purpose just to see the outcome. After seeing it i decided there is nothing much to it, and every other playthrough i just finished the minigame and to be honest... it was kinda pointless in the end, its not even a challenge to manage it, really, you just CANT fail this game if you play it that is... but saying its pointless, i enjoy it anyways... added some depth to the whole game i think. But it could be way more challenging i think so there would be a possibility to "fail" the thing... cause no matter what, if you "try" to manage it, you will...
Aaahh thinking of maya... nearly everbody thinks that she will stay in college either way. (cause she is a maingirl and needs to stay in the story) but i think many forget that she lives near by anyway... its a possibility that she has to leave college, wouldnt change anything reagarding her role in the game. She could easily visit campus every day, maybe even work near by as a waitress or such.
I wont rule it out that the whole tuition thing blows up for her and dont get a "happy ending"...
I wont rule it out that the whole tuition thing blows up for her and dont get a "happy ending"...
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There's a very good chance it's deliberately meant to be Patrick Baily (Maya & Derek's dad), and not just a lazy reuse of the same model.
It's not his dealership though, since it's called "Richard's Auto Sales", but no reason he can't be a salesman there.
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)Also adds some weight as to how he bamboozled Maya with the loan, probably did a swifty through his own financier.
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If it looks Patrick talks like Patrick and acts like Patrick its probably bobThere's a very good chance it's deliberately meant to be Patrick Baily (Maya & Derek's dad), and not just a lazy reuse of the same model.
It's not his dealership though, since it's called "Richard's Auto Sales", but no reason he can't be a salesman there.
But it makes sense he's a lying sack of shit used care salesman! (No offence to any used car salesmen on the forum, I'm sure your all decent and honestYou don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
Also adds some weight as to how he bamboozled Maya with the loan, probably did a swifty through his own financier.
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But look at the behind the scene detail that's Shibuya from Yakuza games... Although many fantasy games are created from ARK... Normal ARK has a good outdoor mapping system and its graphical detail is good to this day. In Leap of Faith there is a scene where Cece and her friend come out where they are on the map of the island of ARK,There's a very good chance it's deliberately meant to be Patrick Baily (Maya & Derek's dad), and not just a lazy reuse of the same model.
It's not his dealership though, since it's called "Richard's Auto Sales", but no reason he can't be a salesman there.
But it makes sense he's a lying sack of shit used care salesman! (No offence to any used car salesmen on the forum, I'm sure your all decent and honestYou don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
Also adds some weight as to how he bamboozled Maya with the loan, probably did a swifty through his own financier.
And it's funny to see how in some images the trees appear and disappear because DPC has to cut them down by hand probably with the moderator's rifle
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Waiting for the reveal that the dealership was owned by Rich's grandma and she left it to him when she died
- May 17, 2020
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Because at the end of the day, this student loan business with a girl without a job as guarantor, if you put your mind to it, but you have to put your mind to it, makes a little sense.There's a very good chance it's deliberately meant to be Patrick Baily (Maya & Derek's dad), and not just a lazy reuse of the same model.
It's not his dealership though, since it's called "Richard's Auto Sales", but no reason he can't be a salesman there.
But it makes sense he's a lying sack of shit used care salesman! (No offence to any used car salesmen on the forum, I'm sure your all decent and honestYou don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
Also adds some weight as to how he bamboozled Maya with the loan, probably did a swifty through his own financier.
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- Oct 24, 2018
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Did Rich ever directly antagonize the MC? Do you think he is another of DPC's red herrings?
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I don't see that he really has any intersection with MC, so I don't see what a red herring that would be
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The easy way out for DPC on this debacle is very, very simple: Patrick lied to Maya (i.e. he's bluffing). There is no other solution.
But we should all know the true story by now...
i don't think we ever interract directly with Rich as MC but you can follow a part of Rich story (him losing his grandma)
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Was referring to the timing of the dead grandma and if he never actually did anything wrong to the MC would be easier to connect with him if related. But I tend to go with DPC mind games, if I had to guess.
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after killing Jill cerebrally, it is not out of the question that he kills Maya as well, after all, they are kids in loveThe easy way out for DPC on this debacle is very, very simple: Patrick lied to Maya (i.e. he's bluffing). There is no other solution.
But we should all know the true story by now...
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I don't think DPC will ever do that, he is proud of his perfect plan
- Nov 10, 2020
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If the loans are in Patrick's name or if he co sign so Maya can get the loan I think it works, that DPC is a fucking lazy ass milker
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but in what sense? i don't understand
do you think Rich and MC might be related and contenders for inheritance? that the dead grandmother is Lynette's mother?
may be, after all it was not clear what motivation the money that came to MC had....
except for the curious detail that if Maya does not repay the debt it is she who ends up bankrupt....If the loans are in Patrick's name or if he co sign so Maya can get the loan I think it works, that DPC is a fucking lazy ass milker
basically Maya borrows for her father, what a golden child!!!!
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If the loans are in Patrick's name or if he co sign so Maya can get the loan I think it works, that DPC is a fucking lazy ass milker
Loans 101 for anyone who doesn't know shit about getting a loan (looking at you Maya):except for the curious detail that if Maya does not repay the debt it is she who ends up bankrupt....
basically Maya borrows for her father, what a golden child!!!!
- Typically you can't get a loan if you don't have a means to paying it off (income or collateral)
- A guarantor or co-signer can help you with this, but they have to prove they have the means to pay it off (income or collateral).
- You can't be a co-signer or guarantor if you don't have any income or collateral.
- Student loans typically don't need a guarantor or co-signer anyway since it's all about helping you to get to the point where you will have an income.
Now typically she should be the borrower (not the co-signer) and her dad would be the co-signer, not the other way around as the game has it. Because that would mean she passed a credit check and has either the income or collateral to pay the loan off, which we know she doesn't.
Also, Maya isn't a guarantor (meaning she's 100% responsible for the loan if her dad doesn't pay). She's a co-signer, meaning she's equally responsible as her dad. If she was the borrower and her dad was the co-signer (which is how it should be), or the other way around (where Maya is the co-signer - as she believes the case to be), it doesn't change the outcome. They both have to pay and it means the dad doesn't actually have any leverage.
So all of that means that DPC doesn't know what he's on about, or Maya doesn't know what she's on about. Both are plausible. So I'll just go with the one that works: Maya's dad bullshitted her to scare her into doing what he wants and she doesn't know shit about loans and never thought of looking for information on the Internet. The girl is looking for a degree in social work...
EDIT: It seems that in some circles, a co-signer is the same as a guarantor (which means ultimately Maya would be responsible for the debt even though she couldn't have proven to have income or collateral in the first place). Other sources indicate the co-signer is almost like a co-borrower (except the co-signer doesn't get anything tangible out of it). So that just fucks shit up even more. Ultimately Maya couldn't be either, she hasn't got shit.
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