Geralt From Rivia

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To defend, the real indicator about that is now the sA/D (secondsAnimations per Days) which I can only check when the game is released, which is the total animation time. For example:
  • the Interlude as 36 animations for 4 min 36 secs
  • when Episode 3 as 99 animations for 4 min 42 secs.
This is caused because DPC now assemble multiple animations in one and create longer, Interlude have truly 51 angle-animations after check. With that +40% in mind, and since he said he wants to do more of these cinematic style, EP9 could have 424 angle/animations and not 303.
  • If the actual 267 animations have that +40%, it would be 374 true number, and so an A/D ratio of 1.53, like EP7.

That's highly speculative since DPC don't communicate as AnimationsTime or TrueTotal but FullyCompleted; I might remove that A/D metric value as it's no longer the norm and might give indeed confusion or interpretation. :coffee:
A very interesting topic, and as a person of technical culture, I easily understood you. But one inconsistency raises a question in this investigation. If there are really 424 animations, not 303, and if there are really more of them than in Ep.8 ... then why Ep.9 is less? Only 4.5GB of space for pure Ep.9 without Interlude, while Ep.8 is 5GB. Animations take up disk space, Ep.9 should have been larger and weighed around 6-7GB in that case, long animations should be heavier.
Or maybe I'm wrong about something, or their long and difficult rendering is the fault of the new visual effects, which require additional calculations.
 

schinoize

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It's reverse psychology, some patrons might have been pissed otherwise, but because DPC is hyping the episode so much and they take his word as gospel, instead they just get on the hype train and help him fight back against the people who criticize the long development period.
I don't know. Imo, if you wanted to close ranks in the wake of incoming pushback against long development time, wouldn't you first tell me the bad news, then hype me up. Ideally do it at the same time. Don't hype me up 6+ weeks before release (2 weeks before telling me the bad news). I doubt it's possible to keep the hype train going for that long. At least it wouldn't work with me.
Instead of an attempt to hype up supporters, I rather think it truly was/is his opinion about the update and he couldn't hold back. He then got caught off guard by the amount of negative responses to the long development period.
 
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So, now I've been pulled from this OP too? WTF... really? All those mods listed and I'm the only one pulled after the OP was "updated" a few days ago?
Maybe a mistake? I can't see why anyone should do this.
But there is a solution to longer and longer development time. HIRE A TEAM!
How many times DPC should say he don't want hire a team and he gives a shit about the time and he will do this thing in his own way? It's absolutely pointless to debate this every two days.
 

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Yeah... Animations take longer to process in proportion to how much stuff you stuff on a scene... And each stuff has its own peculiarities, like, some hair takes fucking long to render... So each case is one thing... And also animations are collections of images, so, unless someone is using a lossless format, there are always differences in size according to the complexity of the images. Like, an animation of a bald nude dude running on emptiness (literally) would have a smaller size than an animation of the same length of this same guy, fully clothed and with hair, running on a full scene with many objects of different colors.
On the other hand, a smart dev can always optimize stuff since things are moving and don't need the same quality of static renders. But DPC seems to me to be the anal kind of guy (in the Freudian sense and not necessarily related to stuffing things in the butt), so I don't know if he really does that... Maybe he wants his magnum opus to have Ultra HD 120 FPS lossless quality even though nobody would notice any difference...
And also dynamic shadows and reflections, lighting system, potential RTX ON ... Yes, I understand this all takes time to calculate. And what I saw on Bella's last preview, DPC is just a fucking maniac :LOL:
Maybe he wants his magnum opus to have Ultra HD 120 FPS
4K will someday enter the daily life of gaming, but not now. It is too expensive and difficult, and the bygone era of mining has slowed down the transition. But Quad HD with 2560x1440 is already becoming a reality.
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How many times DPC should say he don't want hire a team and he gives a shit about the time and he will do this thing in his own way? It's absolutely pointless to debate this every two days.
I'll never understand the people who get worked up over this. He won't hire a team because he doesn't want to. He doesn't need to. He will not be personally benefited in any way whatsoever if he does.
  • DPC enjoys making the game - why would he hand it over to others to do things he likes?
  • The time it takes to develop the game directly converts to money - why would DPC do something he doesn't want to do purely to speed the game up and result in less revenue over time?
  • Hiring people costs money - why would DPC commit to an ongoing cost for something he doesn't want to do?
 
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shazba

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Except you did read it, and still have nothing to actually respond with.

I understand, you've lost an argument and you don't handle it well.

Explains why you have such a hard time understanding why DPC has no reason to hire a team.

The only reason to hire a team for any Patreon deliverable is if you can't do something yourself. Otherwise if you've got a good product, Patreon rewards those who drag their shit out, intentionally or otherwise.

No need to respond, I understand you've got nothing useful to add.
 

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Maybe DPC felt the need to release a statement because things seems to have started to go south in his backyard after Halloween...

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Of course it's nothing too disastrous and he had a li'l spike after the big plummet, but if it were stocks, it would mean a ~12% fall...
This happens to every creator on the 1st of the every month, has nothing to do with DPC nor the dev time.
 

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I'll never understand the people who get worked up over this. He won't hire a team because he doesn't want to. He doesn't need to. He will not be personally benefited in any way whatsoever if he does.
  • DPC enjoys making the game - why would he hand it over to others to do things he likes?
  • The time it takes to develop the game directly converts to money - why would DPC do something he doesn't want to do purely to speed the game up and result in less revenue over time?
  • Hiring people costs money - why would DPC commit to an ongoing cost for something he doesn't want to do?
In other words, you okay if the project will never be finished?
The longer the project drags on, the less likely it is to be completed, that's just a fact.
I'd hate to follow one project for so many years and never get a conclusion because the author suddenly got health problems, burnt out, other IRL stuff.
 

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I'll never understand the people who get worked up over this. He won't hire a team because he doesn't want to. He doesn't need to. He will not be personally benefited in any way whatsoever if he does.
  • DPC enjoys making the game - why would he hand it over to others to do things he likes?
  • The time it takes to develop the game directly converts to money - why would DPC do something he doesn't want to do purely to speed the game up and result in less revenue over time?
  • Hiring people costs money - why would DPC commit to an ongoing cost for something he doesn't want to do?
I resent that. Quite narrowminded of you. And the poster you quoted as well. My post was a simple comment offering solution to DPC bending himself over backwards to justify his anal retentivness. :Kappa:

Besides there is nothing to be debated here. For him to actually hire a team would be going against his nature, it is his IP and his decision alone what he does with it. It could be argued that he could increase revenue with going pro or semi pro indie studio using his intellect and creativity to finish BADIK earlier and spawn more IPs but ultimately it doesnt matter because his mind seems set on that particular matter. But when he writes a lenghty reply to a patron why it takes more time for a production of a episode, it is only fair and valid of us to point out a perfectly logical solution that wouldnt compromise on the amount of content that he needs to make in order to fulfil his vision.
 

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In other words, you okay if the project will never be finished?
The longer the project drags on, the less likely it is to be completed, that's just a fact.
I'd hate to follow one project for so many years and never get a conclusion because the author suddenly got health problems, burnt out, other IRL stuff.
That's a straw man argument if ever there was one. Although, for the record, if the game could be delivered 100% complete by tomorrow, I'd love it, but it's not happening is it..

From what we know, there are roughly 7 more episodes after this one, give or take (unless Arigon's right, in which case we're almost there!)

DPC's already done a complete game, as well as he's just about to complete his 9th episode of this one.

There are no specific signs that he's slowing down, dying of cancer, or about to be hit by a bus.

But based on what the developer himself has said, if he were to rush things, or get others involved in the development, there's a greater chance that this game may never be completed, or won't be what he wanted in the first place.

There are plenty of other games around, why rush this one specifically?

I don't know what you, or anyone else here does for a living (except maybe AchedCroissant, supposedly he sells "merchandise"... :sneaky:), but I work as a software engineer. Once I graduated, I got a job and I've been writing software for my entire career (about 9 years). I often work long hours but so what? It's a living.

DPC's making a living off this game, seems to enjoy it, and gets paid a fucking lot more than I do. He's consistent with weekly updates, provides a transparency throughout the development cycle, and conducts this project rather professionally (aggression towards people annoying him on discord not withstanding...)

Sure, he may never complete this game due to unforeseen circumstances, but that could happen in spite of, or even because of, hiring a team to work with him.

And objectively (because the point of my initial argument was to be objective rather than simply being driven by our own desire to get the game sooner), unless DPC will personally benefit from having others involved in the development of this, there's no good reason why he should do it.

I resent that. Quite narrowminded of you. And the poster you quoted as well. My post was a simple comment offering solution to DPC bending himself over backwards to justify his anal retentivness. :Kappa:

Besides there is nothing to be debated here. For him to actually hire a team would be going against his nature, it is his IP and his decision alone what he does with it. It could be argued that he could increase revenue with going pro or semi pro indie studio using his intellect and creativity to finish BADIK earlier and spawn more IPs but ultimately it doesnt matter because his mind seems set on that particular matter. But when he writes a lenghty reply to a patron why it takes more time for a production of a episode, it is only fair and valid of us to point out a perfectly logical solution that wouldnt compromise on the amount of content that he needs to make in order to fulfil his vision.
Fair enough. A team could get the game out sooner. But as you say, we know it won't happen. The argument surfaces regularly, and it's a pointless one. Why should he spend money, lose money, and risk leaks and other internal problems etc., just to make patrons happier, when from a business model (because it's his job), it's a risk that quite likely may not improve his bottom line.

And if it makes you feel a little less targetted, I wasn't thinking of your cock specifically when I was referring to the crybabies and their flaccid members. :p
 
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You're probably right... Every end of the month there's an em masse evasion and then it rises again (probably people who wants to buy the game). But it's interesting to notice that he reached his apex in November 21 (~18,000 patrons), and, in this monthly ups-and-downs, there's more people leaving than newcomers. The levels went back to those of April 21 (~2/3 of what has been in the apex). Maybe it's just a coincidence, but I believe the bulk of those who leaved got tired of waiting...
When Ep.9 is released, the same thing will happen as it happened in November 2021. Explosive growth of subscribers, just then Ep.8 was released.
And then again it will gradually fall to the average values that we see now. People are tricky and don't pay all the time, sign up for a month to download a game and then screw it up.
A good lifehack for those who don't want to pay $20 every month.
 
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Poor Riona, she's definitely going to be fucked over by narcs at some point. :cry:

And if Lily turns out to be a narc, my mc may consider not fucking her anymore! :mad:
This drug thing is another situation that looms in the shadows of we're really getting spoon fed until it has a bigger focus at some point.

I'm really wondering what the end game for this is. I mean...how many "books" or "seasons" is this supposed to have? Season 1 is the introduction, season 2 went through with the aftermath and rebuilding of Hell Week, but...Season 3 is delving into more issues (and your potential relationship of choice) plus the introduction of your high school friend/ex. But if there is a point to all this, I think I've started to forget.

And I'm not bashing the game. The character development, plot, the romances, the sex, it's all amazing. But where is the end game? Is all of this supposed to be about a single year for the MC? Is it intending to continue through all of college? What will be the point of the diary of his deceased mother? How will that conclude? There are a lot of things that just seem to be thrown in and are interesting in themselves, but I can't see the end picture here.
 
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I'm really wondering what the end game for this is. I mean...how many "books" or "seasons" is this supposed to have? Season 1 is the introduction, season 2 went through with the aftermath and rebuilding of Hell Week, but...Season 3 is delving into more issues (and your potential relationship of choice) plus the introduction of your high school friend/ex. But if there is a point to all this, I think I've started to forget.

And I'm not bashing the game. The character development, plot, the romances, the sex, it's all amazing. But where is the end game? Is all of this supposed to be about a single year for the MC? Is it intending to continue through all of college? What will be the point of the diary of his deceased mother? How will that conclude? There are a lot of things that just seem to be thrown in and are interesting in themselves, but I can't see the end picture here.
Going back to the beginning of the story, the mc talks about family, how it's just him and his dad, but his dad said family are the people closest to you blah blah. Then he starts talking about all this shit.

So really, who knows if there's any stronger underlying story other than dude goes to college, dude joins DIK frat, dude fucks girls, dude meets the love of his live, dude lives happily ever after.

My guess is now that we've selected the main LI, the plot will thicken (we're roughly at the half way mark through the story). I expect there will be some bigger drama than all this random shit that's been going on. Something a little more sinister perhaps (involving Vinny, Quinn and their drugs).

If not, then it's just gonna be a lot of random college shit with random drama. It's still fun, but kinda directionless.

And regarding your questions, there are a fuck load more to be answered too:

https://f95zone.to/threads/being-a-dik-interlude-season-3-dr-pinkcake.25332/post-6999868
 

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This drug thing is another situation that looms in the shadows of we're really getting spoon fed until it has a bigger focus at some point.

I'm really wondering what the end game for this is. I mean...how many "books" or "seasons" is this supposed to have? Season 1 is the introduction, season 2 went through with the aftermath and rebuilding of Hell Week, but...Season 3 is delving into more issues (and your potential relationship of choice) plus the introduction of your high school friend/ex. But if there is a point to all this, I think I've started to forget.

And I'm not bashing the game. The character development, plot, the romances, the sex, it's all amazing. But where is the end game? Is all of this supposed to be about a single year for the MC? Is it intending to continue through all of college? What will be the point of the diary of his deceased mother? How will that conclude? There are a lot of things that just seem to be thrown in and are interesting in themselves, but I can't see the end picture here.
4 seasons is the plan. I'm assuming the underlying plots like the restaurant and tuition and Fuckface's maternal family are the overriding plots that will progress through season 3 and then come to the forefront in season 4 with the resolving of those plots being the endgame of the game. The LIs are incidental to the main plot, but provide you with the ending you want with the LI you want.
 

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If not, then it's just gonna be a lot of random college shit with random drama. It's still fun, but kinda directionless.
All I can say is BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR o_O

I'm sure I'm not the only one hoping DPC will not do a DPC and traumatise innocent porn lovers with another demonic final plot twist. There are plenty of therapists that owe a significant portion of their lifestyles to Acting Lessons. :cry:
 
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