VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[dalli_x]

Well, I'm not so sure. I honestly think that Seasons 1 and 2 told us that the most important lesson in this story is that choices always have consequences. Bad choices will have dire consequences.

I have the feeling that what you decided to do / not to do in the toilets during the midterm exams in ep. 8 will have an impact, for instance.

You are also right about that.

However, you should look at the game from the player's point of view and not from the MC's point of view. Personally, if you want to have a nice story where there are few dramatic scenes, then play BaDIK that way.

It's just like in real life. There are people who don't care about connections. They might be in a relationship and see a hot girl they really want to have sex with. Then they get caught, the girlfriend leaves them, and they find a new girlfriend. If you want to have that in BaDIK, you can play that way too.

DPC actually serves two audiences.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Yes, I think DPC should have called the normal scale something else and not Chick or DIK. This is always confused with affinity.

Affinity determines the MC's basic attitude and feeds into the MC's everyday decisions, so some everyday decisions can't be made.

What you mean by free rein is the player's decision. If the player prefers a porn game, he is playing a massive DIK. Of course there will be consequences, but the player shouldn't care because he chose it. So he has his permissiveness. It's like your ice cream parlor. However, the sweet tooth decides whether he wants a lemon ice cream or chocolate ice cream. If he wants something sour, he orders the lemon ice cream.

But if the player wants to have a happy ending with a LI, he should consider some things. I am not thinking so much about the RP's, but more about the character traits of the LI.

Spoiler: Example: character traits of Sage.

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you have this moral bias toward DIK affinity....

only a CHICK player can be found in this situation, and I don't think we can consider him a romantic dreamer:


BADIK doesn't become something else depending on how you play it, the principle is always the same: whatever girl you meet is interested in you, each needs certain conditions to have a happy continuation (plus a whole series of more or less obvious traps), of course LIs have more content and a different centrality from side girls.

if she is a bad girl she will want different things from a good girl
this common ground is combined with everyone's tastes, shy girls, sassy girls, babes and MILFs....

i don't understand what you see wrong with the porn game label, which seems to only go well when it comes to the "lightness" of the plot, however whatever it is it is from start to finish

the only case where it is distorted is if you skipped all the dialogue and just saw the scenes, there in that case it is another game

 

[ename144]

The Vixens will be like the Pink Rose members and the Swiper crushes: a way to offer the player a kind of sexual liberation. The main character flirts with these ladies, sleeps with them, with no consequences or repercussions for the storylines. Until such time as these characters are part of the narrative or become a choice in their own respect.

Such behavior naturally tends towards DIK but is not that restricted (e.g. having sex with Madame Rose while being pure Chick). DrPinkCake may maintain this approach in the new season so as not to frustrate the player, now coupled with a loyalty score system - for those who have chosen a girlfriend - similar to Jill's jealousy.

Strictly speaking, a pure CHICK can't interact with Madame Rose since working at the Pink Rose requires a DIK Major Decision. I take your point, though.

As for the Vixens, it's certainly possible they'll just be more of the same, but I suspect they will have their own distinct niche: they can be malevolent. The HOTs are generally in alignment with the MC and the DIKs; even Quinn, while she obviously has her own agenda, would still prefer to avoid rocking their boat. Likewise the Pink Rose girls are professionals; they aren't going to waste time screwing around with a college fraternity if there's easier money to be made dancing.

The Vixens are an unknown, but they have the potential to operate differently. They may not worry about the wellbeing of the DIKs, nor about stepping on some other girl's toes. If they're the sort of people who enjoy watching things burn, they can deliberately shake up the story in a way the HOTs or PR girls couldn't. That might be especially important if the MC is supposed to be staying loyal, because it means they can be used as threats/temptations that work on all branches. Riona wouldn't make a move on Sage's boyfriend, for example, whereas the Vixens might be more interested in the MC specifically because he's supposed to be off-limits.

Now granted, this is me reading a lot into the Episode 9 teaser at the end of Season 3 (and the fact they're called 'Vixens'). It's entirely possible DPC is just adding more hot girls to the game and their behavior will be no different than the other side girls. But I'm trying to give DPC the benefit of the doubt here and assume there's a method to his madness.

Yes it's porn, but we still follow the story of the evolution of the MC's relationship with the 5 LIs. And it's not a harem, so we know very well that we will have to choose (which is done in episode 8). And we suspect that after a while, with the evolution of the relationship between the MC and the LI, the question of the exclusivity of the relationship will arise.

On the other hand, it is obvious that we are not going to go from eight episodes where the MC fucks everyone, to an episode 9 where if he has chosen an LI, he becomes monogamous or becomes unfaithful with the risk of losing the LI .

It will be progressive and different according to each LI.


For the moment with M+J, it's no strings attached. So, we can continue with the sides girls without any problem. Apart from obvious red flag like Quinn, it is the relationship with an LI that is most explicitly defined, so no risk for the moment.

Bella, as far as I can remember there is no "label" to their relationship. But, we've seen what happens if Bella finds out what the MC did with Katie. Their relationship (if chosen in episode 8) is more advanced than in Katie's time, so it would potentially be more serious.

Sage, since the majority of side girls are HOT, it can make the transition (to an exclusive relationship) smooth and smooth, or conversely complicate things.

With Jill, there is a very naive and romantic side, not really compatible with an MC who continues to do what he does.


In fact the big question is how DPC will manage this? We must maintain a minimum of coherence with the characters and the story. On the other hand, he can't make the MC monogamous overnight with the only option being faithful or unfaithful.

For episode 9, on a Bella run and on a Jill run, I think we will have to be careful.


and I'm not even talking about all the choices for eight episodes that could come back to cause us problems...

Ugh. If DPC tries to claim there are still no strings on the M/J relationship after the crossroad, I'm going to bust out the torches and pitchforks.

 

[shazba]

Yes it's porn, but we still follow the story of the evolution of the MC's relationship with the 5 LIs. And it's not a harem, so we know very well that we will have to choose (which is done in episode 8). And we suspect that after a while, with the evolution of the relationship between the MC and the LI, the question of the exclusivity of the relationship will arise.

On the other hand, it is obvious that we are not going to go from eight episodes where the MC fucks everyone, to an episode 9 where if he has chosen an LI, he becomes monogamous or becomes unfaithful with the risk of losing the LI .

It will be progressive and different according to each LI.


For the moment with M+J, it's no strings attached. So, we can continue with the sides girls without any problem. Apart from obvious red flag like Quinn, it is the relationship with an LI that is most explicitly defined, so no risk for the moment.

Bella, as far as I can remember there is no "label" to their relationship. But, we've seen what happens if Bella finds out what the MC did with Katie. Their relationship (if chosen in episode 8) is more advanced than in Katie's time, so it would potentially be more serious.

Sage, since the majority of side girls are HOT, it can make the transition (to an exclusive relationship) smooth and smooth, or conversely complicate things.

With Jill, there is a very naive and romantic side, not really compatible with an MC who continues to do what he does.


In fact the big question is how DPC will manage this? We must maintain a minimum of coherence with the characters and the story. On the other hand, he can't make the MC monogamous overnight with the only option being faithful or unfaithful.

For episode 9, on a Bella run and on a Jill run, I think we will have to be careful.


and I'm not even talking about all the choices for eight episodes that could come back to cause us problems...

The only thing contradicting this is the mc pretty much calls all other relationships off once you make your choice in episode 8. That even includes breaking of the arrangement with Jade.

Perhaps the mc sees the relationship with Jade as more complicated than the random encounters he has with the likes of Cammy and Riona, so he decides to end it with Jade to avoid further complication but he's still open to random encounters.

Also, its not clear if the mc is cutting romantic ties with the girls he doesn't choose because he doesn't want to lead them on anymore, or if he doesn't want to be cheating on his chosen LI. Given all the soul searching he's been doing of late, it seems like the latter to me. In which case, just how will DPC get around this to keep the sex going, or will the mc be monogamous going forward.

From the way I read from a lot of people playing this, it seems they'd be happy to proceed in a monogamous relationship with their virtual girlfriend. As long as DPC actually fleshes these relationships out, I could see that possibly working for some people.

Maybe the mc will get away with occasionally cheating, or perhaps the other random girls are there for the guys who haven't made their choice yet. Will we get another stab at the LIs if we turn them all down at the midway mark?

I guess episode 9 will answer all of this when we see what the mc's attitude becomes. But the first branch I'm gonna play is the "others" aka "alone" branch.

Ugh. If DPC tries to claim there are still no strings on the M/J relationship after the crossroad, I'm going to bust out the torches and pitchforks.

If the mc chooses M&J, he promptly cancels things with Jade, Sage and Bella and intends to cancel things with Jill too, so for him to do all that and then say, "Well technically we haven't added any strings", would make zero sense.

Unless as I mentioned above, his cancellation of the other relationships was because they were going too far and he didn't want to hurt them (as opposed to happily fucking random girls on the side).

 

[dalli_x]

you have this moral bias toward DIK affinity....

only a CHICK player can be found in this situation, and I don't think we can consider him a romantic dreamer:
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BADIK doesn't become something else depending on how you play it, the principle is always the same: whatever girl you meet is interested in you, each needs certain conditions to have a happy continuation (plus a whole series of more or less obvious traps), of course LIs have more content and a different centrality from side girls.

if she is a bad girl she will want different things from a good girl
this common ground is combined with everyone's tastes, shy girls, sassy girls, babes and MILFs....

i don't understand what you see wrong with the porn game label, which seems to only go well when it comes to the "lightness" of the plot, however whatever it is it is from start to finish

the only case where it is distorted is if you skipped all the dialogue and just saw the scenes, there in that case it is another game

You are mistaken.

BaDIK remains the same game in terms of programming. But the interesting thing is that I as a player can steer BaDIK in the direction I want it to go and thus determine the possible endings or keep them open. It is my decision as a player of the MC which branch I choose through the aberration of programming.

We all agree that DPC does not want incest in their game. But my MC has only had sex with Josy and Maya. I don't even have the choice your screenshot shows. The walkthrough states.

"Hint! Whatever choice, it will have a huge impact on the story that follows."

I assume that starting in EP9, DPC will begin to build relationships between LIs, families, various people in the BaDIK world, and the MC. With your choices, it is virtually impossible for the MC to be related to any of the families from the LI's. However, it does not rule out so that the LI's could be related to each other (Okay, Josy and Maya are ruled out). Drama ahead. That really only leaves two of the extended family for the MC. Burgmeister or Smith.

As you should see, it is not the number of possibilities (BaDIK as a total game with all branches) that is the crucial point, but which possibility the player of the MC chooses.

 

[dalli_x]

Ugh. If DPC tries to claim there are still no strings on the M/J relationship after the crossroad, I'm going to bust out the torches and pitchforks.

The relationship of M/J can the MC in EP8 already firmly makes. How?

How know from EP2 so that Josy needs the feeling of being loved more than anything else. At the dorm party, the MC gives Josy exactly that feeling. With Maya it is different. She had to trust the MC 100% first and that's why she believes the MC when he sends Maya a heart in the last chat and in return the MC gets a heart back.

As we know MC hasn't told them yet but nonetheless Josy and Maya already know. I figure for MC to drop this emotinal bomb during the visit to the Burkes. Then Sage would get mad at MC for not telling her.

 

[mindern]

Which is in your opinion the most annoying direction the game could go after being force into a choice at the halfway point of the story, that you are not allowed to sample anymore, thus turning the game more boring, or the fact that DPC will probably force artificial drama onto the people that hope their relationships grows?

For me, increasing wait times aside, S3 will break, or make this game, because I will have a hard time still justifying it being in my favorites list if it goes(continue to go) in the direction that I predict it going, especially with so many of the new blood devs getting better and better in terms of art and output.

If DPC undoes “choosing” a girl by forcing a dilemma between whomever you chose and Zoey I will probably just stop playing for a bit. No I’m not being dramatic and saying I’ll give up on it entirely but I’ll probably wait and see how it pans out before I decide to play it.

I’m hitting my limit already on artificially stalling the various routes. If he spends 2-3 episodes forcing Zoey down our throats whilst the girls all collectively act like it’s fine and none of the relationships mean anything to them thus it’s just gravy he’s still undecided… only for yet another fucking “follow your heart” moment where we choose (yet again) a route DPC can go fuck himself.

Dudes on thin ice with me and the stalling. If Zoey in any way impedes the given routes and we’re not given the chance to just (if not ignore her) entirely friendzone her I’m kinda done.

 

[felicemastronzo]

You are mistaken.

BaDIK remains the same game in terms of programming. But the interesting thing is that I as a player can steer BaDIK in the direction I want it to go and thus determine the possible endings or keep them open. It is my decision as a player of the MC which branch I choose through the aberration of programming.

We all agree that DPC does not want incest in their game. But my MC has only had sex with Josy and Maya. I don't even have the choice your screenshot shows. The walkthrough states.

"Hint! Whatever choice, it will have a huge impact on the story that follows."

I assume that starting in EP9, DPC will begin to build relationships between LIs, families, various people in the BaDIK world, and the MC. With your choices, it is virtually impossible for the MC to be related to any of the families from the LI's. However, it does not rule out so that the LI's could be related to each other (Okay, Josy and Maya are ruled out). Drama ahead. That really only leaves two of the extended family for the MC. Burgmeister or Smith.

As you should see, it is not the number of possibilities (BaDIK as a total game with all branches) that is the crucial point, but which possibility the player of the MC chooses.

this has nothing to do with what we were talking about

for you there is a porn game for those who choose others and in general make DIKs choices, and then there is an adult game for those who are chick and commit heart and soul to an LI (then if they are M&J better)

this is where I disagree. the game is always the same, then how one interprets it remains strictly with the player and the individual choices they make

you can "only" collect sex scenes as Chick (as in the example I showed you), as you can "dream" of true love as DIK

 

[dalli_x]

If DPC undoes “choosing” a girl by forcing a dilemma between whomever you chose and Zoey I will probably just stop playing for a bit. No I’m not being dramatic and saying I’ll give up on it entirely but I’ll probably wait and see how it pans out before I decide to play it.

I’m hitting my limit already on artificially stalling the various routes. If he spends 2-3 episodes forcing Zoey down our throats whilst the girls all collectively act like it’s fine and none of the relationships mean anything to them thus it’s just gravy he’s still undecided… only for yet another fucking “follow your heart” moment where we choose (yet again) a route DPC can go fuck himself.

Dudes on thin ice with me and the stalling. If Zoey in any way impedes the given routes and we’re not given the chance to just (if not ignore her) entirely friendzone her I’m kinda done.

DPC will not undo the selection of a girl. But it will offer the player a new choice with Zoey. But you yourself will probably make the decision whether to take the Zoey option or not.

 

[Lovetities]

People here thinking that side girls, vixens, pink rose will bring temptation to MC when others non-chosen main girls are hiding from plain sight and waiting to strike at right moment. MC is still friends with Josy, Maya, Jill, Sage and with exception Bella.

 

[x6XDanteX9x]

Anyone knows when the next update is dropping ? 9 months....

 

[NebulousShooter]

Anyone knows when the next update is dropping ? 9 months....

Not sooner than the 2nd half of December, probably first week of January

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

As for the Vixens, it's certainly possible they'll just be more of the same, but I suspect they will have their own distinct niche: they can be malevolent. The HOTs are generally in alignment with the MC and the DIKs; even Quinn, while she obviously has her own agenda, would still prefer to avoid rocking their boat. Likewise the Pink Rose girls are professionals; they aren't going to waste time screwing around with a college fraternity if there's easier money to be made dancing.

The Vixens are an unknown, but they have the potential to operate differently. They may not worry about the wellbeing of the DIKs, nor about stepping on some other girl's toes. If they're the sort of people who enjoy watching things burn, they can deliberately shake up the story in a way the HOTs or PR girls couldn't. That might be especially important if the MC is supposed to be staying loyal, because it means they can be used as threats/temptations that work on all branches. Riona wouldn't make a move on Sage's boyfriend, for example, whereas the Vixens might be more interested in the MC specifically because he's supposed to be off-limits.

Now granted, this is me reading a lot into the Episode 9 teaser at the end of Season 3 (and the fact they're called 'Vixens'). It's entirely possible DPC is just adding more hot girls to the game and their behavior will be no different than the other side girls. But I'm trying to give DPC the benefit of the doubt here and assume there's a method to his madness.

I keep thinking about version that Vixens is a trap for MC, who chose LI in Ep.8 (If you chose Others, you risk nothing). And this is already working, the first such mine was laid back in Ep. 7 and it is called Becky. Something that could destroy your relationship with M+J. Especially Maya, who hates her.
And such mines will be for every girl. I can already see how Bianca is turning into a relationship bomb with Jill. Maybe I'm wrong, but DPC always creates consequences for the decisions made. So I agree with your theory.

 

[Ilhares]

Ep. 7 and it is called Becky. Something that could destroy your relationship with M+J. Especially Maya, who hates her.

Becky is not a threat. You can only get her to blow you if you're a DIK, she won't go for it if MC is neutral or chick (I tried). As thr M&J trio seems to require being a chick, I don't see those players crossing the line with Becky unless they have cheated to change game variables.

 

[scarp1]

i'm sorry, but i think this game has become an ultimate milk machine for the dev. There is no way that an update in the game should take more than a year. This will probably go on for at least 3-4 years from now before the game ends. I don't even have any saves because i switched computers and didn't keep any of the old shit. And even if i had, who remembers the story after all this time? And because of all the minigames and free roams it is a pain in the .ss to replay.

Size of this update will be bigger than what most other devs produce in a year, just depends if you want one huge update or 2 or 3 short updates a year.

 

[scarp1]

Anyone knows when the next update is dropping ? 9 months....

I'm going with 18th-20th Dec

 

[Eagle1900]

If you want the regular version I suggest you go to rpdl.net and search for being a dik... 20GB so torrent is a logical choice... if you are satisfied with a compressed version click on the link in my sig... 4.5 GB

where is your signature?
Am I the only one who doesn't see anything to click on?
Can you tell me what I have to do to be able to download a compressed version?? thank you

 

[Coinzell]

where is your signature?
Am I the only one who doesn't see anything to click on?
Can you tell me what I have to do to be able to download a compressed version?? thank you

You are quoting message from the early April. Try to check opening post on the first page.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Becky is not a threat. You can only get her to blow you if you're a DIK, she won't go for it if MC is neutral or chick (I tried). As thr M&J trio seems to require being a chick, I don't see those players crossing the line with Becky unless they have cheated to change game variables.

How did I get it? I got on the Trouble path by being a neutral affinity in Ep.4. Then by Ep 7, thanks to a few DIK choices, my affinity became DIK. For the girls it doesn't matter anymore, because only the choice in Ep.4 matters. So I throat fucked Becky in the toilet while on Maya/Josy path. Becky is a known blabber-mouth and hangs out a little with Josy. The conclusions are bad.

 

[Eagle1900]

You are quoting message from the early April. Try to check opening post on the first page.

I did it and it's even worse... it directs me to a post where all the single links (gofile; torrent etc etc) are out of date... how can I do it? can you help me? I would be very grateful