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About the Tennis Question, how about with his dad? his dad trained him to defend himself, gave him a guitar to learn how to play it, so why is it so hard to imagin he might learn the MC how to play tennis and other activities?
I have already written in the post to which you refer, so that tennis is not one of Neil's hobbies. We learn about Neil's hobbies in the Zoey flashback from EP3.
 
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Suffering from insomnia so I'll bite.
There are scenes in game that imply that MC is reminded of something. For example, when the MC first saw Jill playing the piano. He came out and asked himself if that was really Jill. How can he wonder such a thing when he has just seen her twice.
Fuckface has already formed a first impression of Jill from those two meetings. I think the comment about whether it was really her was referring to her lack of confidence and vulnerability, traits we now associate totally with her, but she seemed extremely strong and confident in her first scenes.
Why does the MC see a Stephen-like person in military uniform in EP2? He has seen Stephen only once before? Most importantly, this Stephen looks younger. Flare up memories of a Halloween what years ago?
Daz3D does not offer that much variation in male models. If short hair and thin makes someone Stephen like then most middle-aged men in games using Daz are Stephen like. I don't think the person in uniform looks significantly Stephen like, you could even say he looks Patrick like and be as correct.
Isabella says herself in EP8 when the MC asks her so she knows how to cut hair. The MC gets the haircut like Tommy. There is a hint that something may have happened when the MC was 13 years old.
Fuckface gets a common haircut that just so happens to be the same as another character, not sure how that links to an event 6 years previously.
During the mansion repair there are mini jobs. One is for someone to watch his nephew or loosen him up a bit. Furthermore, there is also a birthday party and balloons. The strange thing is that balloons are also hanging at Neil's house when the MC is at his birthday party. Damn, the MC has turned 19 years old. What 19 year old wants balloons on his birthday.
Who actually asks for balloons on their birthday? My Dad just had his 65th birthday and there were balloons there, is he Fuckface in the future and transferred to real life?
When the MC came to B&R, he seems to be recognized by some. Let's go to tennis,2. Tybalt is afraid after showering that the MC will beat him. This is canon whether the MC beats Tybalt in EP5 or not. But in the past, the MC once beat a bully whose name we don't know. Of course, the question arises again why the MC can't remember then.
We don't find out the name of the bully because he's totally irrelevant to the current story. If for example he was to turn up at B&R then obviously we'd find out his name. Tybalt doesn't think Fuckface is going to hit him because he knows about Fuckface's past, but because Fuckface walks towards him after he's been a cunt for the umpteenth time and he realises that he might have taken a step too far with someone who is obviously stronger than him
At the very beginning it is written that Neil was very proud when the MC got his driver's license. In EP8 falls twice casually so that the MC made a dent in the van of Neil. Once when Neil brings the furniture and then in the final freeroam event where Rusty and Leon are present. Has the MC perhaps lost his memory in a car accident and therefore can only remember his childhood in fragments?
So you never put a dent in a car before you passed your driving test? I did, multiple times, I can still remember my childhood. And since when did a dent in a van translate to a crash serious enough to cause brain damage? A smash hard enough to cause brain damage would make the van a write-off not cause a little dent in a van that is still driven years later. Also Fuckface remembers denting the van so why would he remember an event that caused severe lack of memory of everything else?
 

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Tennis is inaccessible to the poor in the same way that swimming is. You might think a simple YMCA membership to a gym with a pool is affordable, but for many impoverished families it just doesn't make sense compared to running around with a soccer ball or basketball.

Outdoor public courts have their issues. In a third of the US, it's too cold to play outside for half the year. And in many cities, public tennis courts are in high enough demand to where you need to be lucky to find an available one, and when you do, it's likely cracked up and run down with nets about to fall off. Even then, you'll feel awkward stumbling around not knowing what you're doing when there are plenty of people waiting for your court.

$3 for a can of 3 new tennis balls is a decent deal now, and they'll flatten out in a few months even if you don't play with them during that time. You need at THE VERY LEAST 6 balls or so to get anywhere near a reasonably efficient amount of practice instead of just running around picking up balls the whole time. Mire like at least 30-120 (for a beginner).

You can't pump air back into tennis balls like a basketball. You have to buy new ones.

If you play for *any* considerable amount of time, you'll start breaking strings. Even if you get super cheap $5 strings, labor cost for stringing starts at $15 BARE minimum, usually more these days. Or you can drop a couple hundred bucks on a REALLY cheap stringing machine and watch youtube videos to string it yourself and heavily risk completely messing up your racquet.

It's extremely rare for public high schools to do any tennis in PE, let alone even have enough racquets for students to use. And how many PE teachers in a poor school area can teach any tennis?

Borrowing your friend's shit to play in the park 5 times a summer is one thing. To play even at a basic, basic level to beat rich people like Jill and Tybalt (not to mention being able to rip shots powerfully and accurately enough at will to actually injure Tybalt with a soft fuzzy rubber ball) would take at least either 1) lower middle class income 2) some tennis friends who can really hook you up 3) literally pro-level natural talent (which actually wouldn't be too big of a stretch here given how Tremolo is an exceptionally talented person in general)

Yes some impoverished people succeed in tennis, but they are rare and really have to make up for it in those other assets, like the Williams sisters.

Bottom line: Tremolo has a huge fucking cock and is a tennis legend in another timeline
dude, you are making a way to big deal out of it, just like dalli...

the mc told Jill he played a little tennis... he TRIED it... trying out sports is very easy all over the place, in US too, like in europe there is nothing mentioned how many times the played, it could be easily once in a lifetime (and even than its not that uncommon to be pretty decent if you have a general high talent in sports, and the MC is obviously a talented guy, regarding sports, iam too by the way... and playing tennis without any experience wasnt a big deal for me either, nor for my buddy as he started as a kid, there are many people, that can start ANY sport just like that and are pretty decent in it, we are talking about being decent, not a professional)... MOST facilities are completley free for tryout, again in europe so in US... especially if you are in highschool you can try out every shit there is... (and about talent or playing on a level with jill and tybalt... you realise its a minigame in a fun-porn-game do you? Ah and well... you can fail it too?)

You and dalli sound like he is a pro or something and learned it in a proper way over years or whatever...

And dont start with "talent" its a minigame... and even so... i never played tennis before, but as i tried the first time, i was pretty decent beside the annoying serviceses (we later went on to scratch them and i played without doing those), i gave my buddy a pretty sweat.

nearly EVERY school has somewhat of a multiuse sportshall, where you can do ALL the sports which you can do indoors, even the very little schools in villages do have access to those. Most of my life i lived in a village with under 1500 citizens, what do you think which kind of school i was attending?

Our school got most things by donation, like basketballs, rackets and so on, for tennis, Badminton and all the other things... we were aorund 40 students for a PE lesson, and there were maybe 10 rackets for us all, so what did we? shared and the others did other things... the sports-hall was big enough to be split into 4 badmintion feilds and two tennis courts, maybe not EXACTLY big enough like the actual tennis courts are, so what? big enough to try it out...

You guys sound that every sports can only be done on the specific made courts with trainers and what not... but this is not the case. Most people try out sports just like me, grab a ball and go for it, went to school or a community center tried out what they offered, later on maybe living in a city there are places for public use, with tryout deals (nearly every sportscenter in germany has a tryout offer, you can rent their equipment very cheap and use the place for free for the first and second time, or a whole week, iam pretty sure thats the case in USA too, or a friend can take you with him for free, those deals are very common too)

A friend of mine, the very one i played tennis with, owned two rackets and a tube with balls... not more. and played like this for years. Yeah the balls werent new and were shitty later on, so what? they worked still, and around tennis courts you can gather many balls others just let lie around. So he were fine... he borrowed me his second racket and we were good to go.

My Badminton equip? Those balls are cheap, i had one racket, gift by grandparents, used it for nearly 10 years... where i played? School-sports-multiuse-hall in the evening twice a week, as a stundent this was for free. Only hurdle was to sign up for it, cause the space wasnt endless and we had to share with others. Was i ideal? of course not, were there any pros? neither... was it fun and competetive anyways? yeah.

And just like that you can try out sports, and thats what the MC did with tennis once or twice... he didnt played tennis for YEARS he just tried it out once or twice as he said... so whats the big deal? Most school-students are able to try out different sports... i guess if you think otherwise, you never bothered to try out anyways.

But nevermind, iam done with this... you guys are way to serious about little things in the game anyways... its a fucking minigame with no meaning whats so ever...

Or are you starting an argument now that the MC must have been to a very expensive cooking lesson cause he can flip pancakes like a pro? (if you dont screw up the minigame it is) or must have been to the NBA for nailing the basketball minigame? (if you dont screw that up)

With a little imagination you can maybe think, that Jill showed the mc the hang of it for some time... or do you think their tennis date lasted 2 minutes? With a little general talent for sports, its no big deal to play competitive with friends... and that the MC is a very talented guy in nearly everything should be obvious by now. Some guys are just that.

DPC didnt made a life simulator here... and i dont want one.

Think a little out of the box sometimes, and stop interpreting everything of the game way to serious and like it has to be very realistic. (like the very realistic size of his cock and the fact that he has more hair on his head AFTER a haircut than before for example, did you talked out that? no? why not? ;) )

The mc tried out some tennis a while ago, there are multiple ways to go about it, without any costs and without any trainer... and thats about it, dont know what there is more to think about... but yeah, dalli is bored, i get it... every picture and every line in the game has some serious big conspiracy behind it. Little pointless to tell him to give DPC some slack, no not everything has a bigger meaning in the game... and with 100% certainty the tennis doesnt have any meaning whatsoever, it was just a fun way to integrate some minigame (and DPC just loves those) and give some banter with bella and a beating to tybalt if you like.

And for playing the "level" of Tybalt and Jill... well... its a minigame... you guys know... well... you can fail that and hit every ball in the net? Tried it out? You wander... you didnt return the ball once, but everyone was sweating a LOT... just a assumption... but... maybe its not real and DPC just didnt payed to much attention to that cuase he just wanted to add a simple minigame in the game and shows us what the other characters in the game are doing besides going to college? Just a freaking minigame without many depth to it?

Ah fuck it, why do i bother...

If you start doubting everything like this... there a million things about the game to go on like this... again, its not a simulator, its an funny little game about fucking a freaking lot of girls and funny things with a ton of drama where nothing realistic is about.

And there is no point in telling a sob story of the MC about being poor, if he wasnt... he tried tennis and some other sports out, i told you many ways to go about it... if you want to think that he had to do it with proper teaching and on professional facilties, so be it... but its nonsense.

In western countries its no big deal to try out any sport just a few times...
 
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We (the player) saw that scene. Did the MC see that scene? In the same free roam, for example, we saw a scene with Jade talking to Tybalt, did the MC see that one too? I wouldn't be so sure. The MC doesn't see everything we see.

Its a big Problem with the game as a whole, that we cant be sure what the MC is seeing and what not... there are a ton of big scenes in the game where the mc is not even near it, and some scenes are in his reach but we cant be sure what he really saw...

I thaught about the mona/Burke thing a while... it can be the case that he just only saw burke leaving a room, but no... i think he saw the whole scene, otherwise his "thaught" about it "what was that about?" wouldnt make any sense... nobody is thinking that if a guy leaves a room on his own... of course the MC did saw mona leaving the room and cammy chasing here and than burke leaving this room too.

Yet... this scene bothers me a lot. At this state of the game... MC knows about the things camilla does, the restaurant of quinn (no matter if you are a chick or dik, those things happend regardless), that burke is not a very nice guy too, that Jade is not afraid to flirt with students (well to call it flirt what she does to the mc at the start is even a little stretched so to speak...) A little later on Mona left college, and the MC didnt even thaught back to this scene and everything going on at the HOTs... that bothers me a lot.

Its not the only time in this game the MC acts way to clueless about everything he had witnessed so far.

But well... i think its not unfair to say that DPC is not the perfect author out there, regarding a AVN he is pretty good compared to most DEVs around here. Writing a book or a script for a movie? Well... DPC should stay away from it. For that the game already has way to many plotholes you have to "oversee" so it can stil work out.

This very scene and how the MC acts later on about mona (or to say not acting at all, like he dont know anything) is one of many so called plotholes in the game we have to deal with and DPC cant do anything about it anymore... (well of course he could delete this scene for examplem but would that be a good way to go about it?)

Its not THAT important though i think. Cause even if the MC would connect all the dots... he couldnt do anything about it anyways alone... he at least needs some proof or other witnesses and overall the MC is still very passive "doing things". A thing that bothers me a lot about him... he is way to passive in every regard, well besides fucking.

The whole plot about Burke, the HOTs, the prostituion is stil to come... its lingering around like a dark cloud over everything. And overall its the "main-plot" of the college. But at this point its still way to early to get this thing REALLY started. I would say even at the end of season 3 it would be still to early to get this rolling... To solve this and bring Burke and everything down, will be a thing for the end of the game. So for the last season overall. MAYBE not even in an active role, maybe the MC will be just a bystander overall...

But as i can see it, DPC is aware that he made a little mistake here. that MC saw this thing and doesnt have a little thaught about Mona later on, even when she left college just like that.

DPC was a little more cautious after episode 5 what he made the MC see and what not. regarding the drugs and prostitution, the MC doesnt see many things anymore (the last time was at the big HOTs party i think, where quinn was dealing a little bit... but well, nothing really to bother about)... especially nothing that he bothers about. The little drug use and dealing by quinn? *shrug* be real... anybody of you went to college and DIDNT know that somebody dealt with some things and others use them? And did you guys bother? No of course not. Its a normal thing that some young people do this shit at college... and its not even a big deal around this game as i see it (if it wasnt for burke)

some students are dealing and consuming a little bit of drugs... well... in my schooldays (and iam talking about the age of 14-16 not college age) many fellow students were smoking some weed (even during schoolbreaks right before lessons), and iam pretty sure some even tried harder things too, didnt witnessed that though, only the weed (and that had to come from somewhere? So somebody at school was dealing with it of course). Some teachers looked just in the other direction i think. One girl i knew, at the age of 16 she offered blowjobs for some money. I bet on every school there was a bratty-girl doing that and enough stupid guys using that. (most of these girls you can now see at chaturbate maybe :D, no need for blowjobs at schools anymore with the internet) On college? Drugs and a little "money for sex business" is maybe even a pretty common thing... we are talking about people that are 18-23 years old. I mean, just look into the papers... news like that are around at daily basis.

What makes this a big deal is the involvement of burke though... handling out tuition for sex, and if youre not down with it youre off the college (like mona). And i would bet he gets a cut out of the drug deals too...

But we have to be aware of the fact, that quinn is NOT dealing in a really big way here. These are small deals, heck... she dealt ONE eightball for richard... other than that some pills and weed mostly... and a little speed for private use and some others. Not exactly a Pablo Escobar here. For the police that wouldnt be very high in priority... certainly nothing to start a proper investigation over (with undercover cop and following students... way to expensive to start a investigation like that over the small dealings from quinn). But if it would comes out that Burke has his hands in it too... we are talking about a whole other thing. We ahve to wait and see.
 

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But we have to be aware of the fact, that quinn is NOT dealing in a really big way here. These are small deals, heck... she dealt ONE eightball for richard... other than that some pills and weed mostly... and a little speed for private use and some others. Not exactly a Pablo Escobar here. For the police that wouldnt be very high in priority... certainly nothing to start a proper investigation over (with undercover cop and following students... way to expensive to start a investigation like that over the small dealings from quinn). But if it would comes out that Burke has his hands in it too... we are talking about a whole other thing. We ahve to wait and see.
Quinn might not be dealing in a big way but the people she gets the drugs from are. Quinn is very indiscreet about it all, she offers Fuckface the restaurant deal whether he's played along in the shower with Cam or not, whether she suspects him of eavesdropping on her and Rio at the dorm or not. She's obvious when collecting the drugs as well, so much so that the mugger knew where she's just been and that she's just made a collection and was a good target.

Aiming for the small fish to catch the big fish is a common police procedure, if it's true that the bigger fish are Quinn's family then the police would have tracked her, realised she's unlikely to flip on her family but discovered how close Rio is with her and that she knows a lot about the business. So the van following Rio could easily be undercover police.

I'm not a fan of the Lily being an undercover cop theory, simply because she's bought drugs from Quinn and distributed them to the Pink Rose girls, and she got Fuckface to pay for sex with her (if you're on DIK affinity), there's rules for undercover cops and she's massively broken them then. If there's an undercover cop it's more likely to be Nicole, but putting a cop in the Pink Rose to target Quinn or Rio would make no sense.

I'm not sure if there's any candidates among the HOTs that could be undercover cops, they wouldn't have the cop in place for over a year without making a move on the small fish so any non-freshmen are out, Cam is obviously not involved, technically Mona could've been but there's absolutely nothing to indicate it. Ash is the only other freshman who may be undercover, but again absolutely no evidence for it.
 

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does Season 3 have android version? the link says "request couldnot be completed."
I wonder a lot of these questions... but please correct me if iam wrong... but so far DPC didnt made ANY android version of the game. Its always a Fan/User who made those right?

So you have to wait until the update is out and a kind guy makes one for you and is publishing it out here... if not, there will be no android version of being a dik season 3.

So far there is only the interlude... as i can see in the opening post, and the link is leading nowhere.

I never saw DPC made one.

So i guess, there is no android version so far, and maybe never will, cause users/fans have to made those... and with the savegame importing system, it could be rather complex. Not doable maybe.

*edit* regardless, i wonder... do you guys really enjoy playing a game like this on a phone? I mean... ugh. i couldnt even read a thing from the game on a phone... yet enjoy the renders, minigames and everything. Would be such a waste.

Rofl iam pictureing a guy sitting in the train, playing being a dik on his phone and trying to hit that fucking button to solve the renders hunt quests, like at the big HOT party :D It must be like a nanomillimeter big on a phone :D like... a thread into needle... super tiny.
 
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Anyone else fantasizing about a spin-off to this game? Perhaps a prequel where you play as a younger Isabella?
Not really, no. Prequels are bullshit, we already know how things end up. I love Bella, but such a game idea has zero appeal.
I wonder a lot of these questions... but please correct me if iam wrong... but so far DPC didnt made ANY android version of the game. Its always a Fan/User who made those right?
You are correct. To the best of my knowledge DPC has never released the game for Android. Given the sheer size of it, I think even compression runs into size problems.
 

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Quinn might not be dealing in a big way but the people she gets the drugs from are. Quinn is very indiscreet about it all, she offers Fuckface the restaurant deal whether he's played along in the shower with Cam or not, whether she suspects him of eavesdropping on her and Rio at the dorm or not. She's obvious when collecting the drugs as well, so much so that the mugger knew where she's just been and that she's just made a collection and was a good target.

Aiming for the small fish to catch the big fish is a common police procedure, if it's true that the bigger fish are Quinn's family then the police would have tracked her, realised she's unlikely to flip on her family but discovered how close Rio is with her and that she knows a lot about the business. So the van following Rio could easily be undercover police.

I'm not a fan of the Lily being an undercover cop theory, simply because she's bought drugs from Quinn and distributed them to the Pink Rose girls, and she got Fuckface to pay for sex with her (if you're on DIK affinity), there's rules for undercover cops and she's massively broken them then. If there's an undercover cop it's more likely to be Nicole, but putting a cop in the Pink Rose to target Quinn or Rio would make no sense.

I'm not sure if there's any candidates among the HOTs that could be undercover cops, they wouldn't have the cop in place for over a year without making a move on the small fish so any non-freshmen are out, Cam is obviously not involved, technically Mona could've been but there's absolutely nothing to indicate it. Ash is the only other freshman who may be undercover, but again absolutely no evidence for it.

Hm yeah... the picture of the whole thing is not big enough for now anyways. We can only assume.

I noticed too that Quinn is VERY careless about everything regarding her dealing with drugs and the prostitution... Thats why i assumed the whole thing is not big enough for the cops to bother, Quinn thinks so too and doesnt give a fuck. Other than that, Burke is in it too and so Quinn has nothing to fear from colleges side anyways so far.

Seeing it from the polices side... well... you are right, usually they are watching the small dealers to get to the big ones. But again i think... if they would investiagte the bigger ones, they wouldnt watch Quinn... its a very difficult thing as cops to watch somebody on a college campus unnoticed. More like, completely impossible. Even an unknown car would be noticed by someone at some point. Way to risky to blow an rather expensive investigation this way.

And regarding the undercover cop thing... you already pointed out that there is no fitting candidate for now. And even if it would turn out that maybe lily or a pink rose girl is indeed a undercover cop... that would feel kinda very ridiculous considering how they act.

So overall i think there is no such thing as a undercover cop, and i dont think that there is a bigger investigation running for Quinns drug contacts too. YET. we are in the middle of the game, 2 season stil to come, without being sure how big they will get. The whole Plot about the drugs, and so on cant be solved before the end of the game anyways... its a thing that will be sorted out at the very end, or very close to it.

There are a million ways how the whole thing can go. And i hope that DPC is able to give the MC (so us) a active role in it in some way...

For example, it would be very interesting if Riona would turn on Quinn at some point, and would ask the MC for help (if the MC helped her already witzh others things, like the stalker that is)... and if the MC helps Riona... quinn goes down... or if we dont help her and are on Quinns path, maybe that Quinn will go out of the whole thing unharmed. Well something like this i would like for example.
 

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Anyone else fantasizing about a spin-off to this game? Perhaps a prequel where you play as a younger Isabella?
Not really, no. Prequels are bullshit, we already know how things end up. I love Bella, but such a game idea has zero appeal.
Yeah its pointless... the whole Bella story will be revealed at somepoint anyways... so there will be not a single reason to make a prequel out of it.

And i dont like prequels too... most of them have the same problem... you already know how it ends. Its a thing that ruined Red Dead Redemption 2 for me too a little... great game and great storytelling, but the overall "tension" was kinda low, cause it was crystal clear what will happen to the gang and Arthur anyways (if you played it that is you can maybe relate, otherwise bad example)

Sometimes it is the journey to the finish that is the most important thing. But well, not for me regarding movies and books (or AVNs for that matter) when i already know the ending. They are getting boring in the middle of the "journey" to me...

And getting boring is a reason why i cant enjoy most AVNs around here when they are "harem" games and such... whats the point? You dont need to "win a girl", cause they throw themselfs to the MC anyways, cheating and fucking around has no consequences, cause... they all end up in the harem anyways, so the end of the game is clear too, you will end up with every girl in the game... well, yeah... boring as fuck, just like prequels ^^
 

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You guys are grossly underestimating Derek.
I didn't say he's dumb. But I stand by saying he's an idiot. The list is clearly a list of people he wants to fuck. He put Neil on it to remember that he threatened MC to fuck Neil if MC touches Maya. He doesn't actually want to fuck Neil I think. Anyways, if the women on the list are his "wishlist" of women he wants to fuck, why cross Jade off with the reasoning of her being in menopause. That makes no sense, unless you believe he wants to knock up the women on the list. But he doesn't want that, right? So the menopause reasoning must be a silly thing only an idiot would write there. Maybe he believes she is in menopause, because of her temper and he doesn't want to deal with it. But that doesn't make it the "truth".
 

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How do I edit/read the Persistent file? I do not want to make changes in it inside of the console. I want to crack open the Persistent file & see what is inside of it.

Also is that where the majority of the variables/labels for specific saves get saved? I didnt think they did. But lookin through the save files on it doesnt have a lot of the label names in the code for choices. It does however have a crap ton of the Bios entries. Is the game trackin your choices by the saved Bios states?
How to read unlock it... i dont know.


But in the persistent file are the saves for the achievments so to speak... like unlocked scene gallerey, render collection and such. And the already "seen" text is checked there too. If you hit the skip button in another playthrough, but didnt checked the "skip unseen text" option in the stting, the game will pause the skip if you will see something you didnt have so far in your playthroughs (VERY handy if you play multiple playthroughs), this info is set in the persistent file...

Those things are in the persistent file... the actual savegame with the story and paths are another file... you can use them without having the persistent file.

For example... if you uninstall everything, or want to install the game on other device... its not necessary to have the persistent file to continue your playthrough out of another savegame. Only things you will be missing than are the already unlocked scenes and renders in the gallery.

That is, if iam not mistaken... but this is how the persistent file worked so far for every renpy game i played and being a dik too.

Your paths and choices are saved in the actual save-game which works without the matching persistent perfectly fine. While the settings, unlocked gallery, already seen text is in the persistent file, if you dont have this file, that doesnt really matter... you ca still use your save-game with the paths and choices, but you have to unlock the gallery and everything like that again.
 

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So this is the part that confuses me. If you look in the code you can see different variables have defined labels such as
ep3_toldJillBullying

But if you look for that in the save file it doesnt exist. Whereas I do see there are 239 bios entries. Is DPC usin the Bios entries then to track your decisions?

If I avoid the console entirely & I just want to lift the hood of the save files themselves where do I look to find where these saved variables are?

If I want to look at where ep8_sq_lewd is in the save file for the Sage/Quinn 3way where do I find it? BC I cant find it at all. But in the decompiled code that is what is used to ck if your MC had the 3way. So when I look at save files where do I find that referenced?

Cant tell you this... dont know what you want to achieve either... do you want to edit your savegames so you dont have to make multiple playthroughs? I tell you... this will not work anyways and everything will get fucked up one way or the other.

What i can tell you, the choices of the MC, the whole plot and paths are in the savegame, you can delete the persistent file and still load your savegame and play it, and everything is peachy, only things missing would be the gallery...

How everything works... i dont know, and i dont care, what i know is that you dont need the persistent file if you want to load your savegame... and whenyou start a game without having the persistent file, the game creates one in an instant... and i guess if you load your savegame, some things will be written in the persistent file afterwards again. Why? How? iam not that good at coding... i know some basics in c++, html, and visual basics... old knowledge mostly though
 

anonnyscouse

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So this is the part that confuses me. If you look in the code you can see different variables have defined labels such as
ep3_toldJillBullying

But if you look for that in the save file it doesnt exist. Whereas I do see there are 239 bios entries. Is DPC usin the Bios entries then to track your decisions?

If I avoid the console entirely & I just want to lift the hood of the save files themselves where do I look to find where these saved variables are?

If I want to look at where ep8_sq_lewd is in the save file for the Sage/Quinn 3way where do I find it? BC I cant find it at all. But in the decompiled code that is what is used to ck if your MC had the 3way. So when I look at save files where do I find that referenced?
DPC is anti-mod, and does everything he can to make sure you can't see everything on one playthrough. It would not be a surprise at all that he hides tripwires in the bios so that the console editing can't easily change things. Examples are things like whether you helped Sage (and locked Jill's path episodes later) or got a blowjob from Cathy (and locked Bella's path episodes later), they were written as normal code and mods have been able to set it up that you can change those variables. I would not be surprised if future tripwires are buried further into the code like in the bios.
 

Hahn1900

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So this is the part that confuses me. If you look in the code you can see different variables have defined labels such as
ep3_toldJillBullying

But if you look for that in the save file it doesnt exist. Whereas I do see there are 239 bios entries. Is DPC usin the Bios entries then to track your decisions?

If I avoid the console entirely & I just want to lift the hood of the save files themselves where do I look to find where these saved variables are?

If I want to look at where ep8_sq_lewd is in the save file for the Sage/Quinn 3way where do I find it? BC I cant find it at all. But in the decompiled code that is what is used to ck if your MC had the 3way. So when I look at save files where do I find that referenced?
DPC is anti-mod, and does everything he can to make sure you can't see everything on one playthrough. It would not be a surprise at all that he hides tripwires in the bios so that the console editing can't easily change things. Examples are things like whether you helped Sage (and locked Jill's path episodes later) or got a blowjob from Cathy (and locked Bella's path episodes later), they were written as normal code and mods have been able to set it up that you can change those variables. I would not be surprised if future tripwires are buried further into the code like in the bios.

yeah thats true too...

And a reason why you cant see every variable in the savegames and so on... DPC gives modders a hard time, and every new release the savegames out of those mods are mostly fucked up afterwards.

It is very possible that the variables you are searching for, are not to be seen like you think. Or like they "should be". They might be hidden, labled in a different way... heck if DPC wants, he can lable the variable for the sage/quinn 3 some just like this "MC took the cookie" or such... Just to give modders a hard time finding it. Does he do so all the time with everything? Nope... but nobody knows where nad when he does.

He changed those labels and variables in the past many times too for many scenes and choices. And yeah... DPC is maybe the only one doing this.
 
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