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Played it from scratch after missing few updates and boy what an adventure! You gotta appreciate the craftmanship - music, environment, story, chracters, scenes, humor, details, working social media systems... I mean WOW! There is a reason this game is most popular on this site and probably best in the industry in terms of quality. If you find my reply while deciding wether or not you should play - just do it, I promise you will enjoy most parts of the game regardless of your kinks.
About interlude. I think it is beautiully crafted, but clearly feels a bit detached from main game. I grew used to chapter intros being similar way, but they were shorter and you returned to core of the game after it so it felt a part of the game. But if the next chapter goes back to normal I don't think it was bad by any means to have a look in Zoey's past especially if she will have big role in the future. Personally she won't be the girl I chase after, but I can see how she would have many fans.
Next episode - Vixens. Hell yeah dude, can't wait!! It suggest we will get to interact with the mysterious girl withdark hair and eyebrow piercings, I fell in love with her instantly during the dorm party. I like fun girls like that and let's be honest here MC can be such a slut as well depending on your choices, so would make sense if he likes those type of girls too. I was actually a bit upset I couldn't finish the DIK tradition and get with Arieth at HOTs party, I think it was a great opportunity, now MC is the odd man out, but I guess there is still chance in future
Maybe I did something wrong, but I was a bit sad that only options for MC in relationship choice was Sage or Others (i suppose here could be Isabella, Jill, Maya or Josy, but I am doing a massive DIK run so it makes sense to ditch these goody-2-shoes). I would be interested to see if Quinn can be tamed, sure she is a bitch sometimes, but I find her alphaness attractive at times, would be great pair with MC on "asshole choices only" playthrough. And she is on path to inherit HOTs as I think MC is on path to inherit DIKs. King and Queen - perfect match!
But if Quinn is a no go.. then Nicole (Envy) should be my wife. I absolutely adore her. What a fun person and stunningly beautiful. Lily is fun, but she needs few years to reach that Nicole charm. Initially I pursued Sage, but she grew more and more "good girl" for my taste. If she was badass HOTs Queen I would totally choose her, cause her body is banger and redheads.. who doesn't like redheads.
Sorry for long post, this game clearly puts a lot of emotions in you and I just binged it over few days so yeah... Carry on. This game is absolute GOD TIER!
About interlude. I think it is beautiully crafted, but clearly feels a bit detached from main game. I grew used to chapter intros being similar way, but they were shorter and you returned to core of the game after it so it felt a part of the game. But if the next chapter goes back to normal I don't think it was bad by any means to have a look in Zoey's past especially if she will have big role in the future. Personally she won't be the girl I chase after, but I can see how she would have many fans.
Next episode - Vixens. Hell yeah dude, can't wait!! It suggest we will get to interact with the mysterious girl withdark hair and eyebrow piercings, I fell in love with her instantly during the dorm party. I like fun girls like that and let's be honest here MC can be such a slut as well depending on your choices, so would make sense if he likes those type of girls too. I was actually a bit upset I couldn't finish the DIK tradition and get with Arieth at HOTs party, I think it was a great opportunity, now MC is the odd man out, but I guess there is still chance in future
Maybe I did something wrong, but I was a bit sad that only options for MC in relationship choice was Sage or Others (i suppose here could be Isabella, Jill, Maya or Josy, but I am doing a massive DIK run so it makes sense to ditch these goody-2-shoes). I would be interested to see if Quinn can be tamed, sure she is a bitch sometimes, but I find her alphaness attractive at times, would be great pair with MC on "asshole choices only" playthrough. And she is on path to inherit HOTs as I think MC is on path to inherit DIKs. King and Queen - perfect match!
But if Quinn is a no go.. then Nicole (Envy) should be my wife. I absolutely adore her. What a fun person and stunningly beautiful. Lily is fun, but she needs few years to reach that Nicole charm. Initially I pursued Sage, but she grew more and more "good girl" for my taste. If she was badass HOTs Queen I would totally choose her, cause her body is banger and redheads.. who doesn't like redheads.
Sorry for long post, this game clearly puts a lot of emotions in you and I just binged it over few days so yeah... Carry on. This game is absolute GOD TIER!
I agree with mostly everything, but I don't think he made a mistake here. The MC doesn't have enough information to link Burke to Quinn and the restaurant. As far as he knows Quinn is pimping other girls to other students like him.Its a big Problem with the game as a whole, that we cant be sure what the MC is seeing and what not... there are a ton of big scenes in the game where the mc is not even near it, and some scenes are in his reach but we cant be sure what he really saw...
I thaught about the mona/Burke thing a while... it can be the case that he just only saw burke leaving a room, but no... i think he saw the whole scene, otherwise his "thaught" about it "what was that about?" wouldnt make any sense... nobody is thinking that if a guy leaves a room on his own... of course the MC did saw mona leaving the room and cammy chasing here and than burke leaving this room too.
Yet... this scene bothers me a lot. At this state of the game... MC knows about the things camilla does, the restaurant of quinn (no matter if you are a chick or dik, those things happend regardless), that burke is not a very nice guy too, that Jade is not afraid to flirt with students (well to call it flirt what she does to the mc at the start is even a little stretched so to speak...) A little later on Mona left college, and the MC didnt even thaught back to this scene and everything going on at the HOTs... that bothers me a lot.
Its not the only time in this game the MC acts way to clueless about everything he had witnessed so far.
But well... i think its not unfair to say that DPC is not the perfect author out there, regarding a AVN he is pretty good compared to most DEVs around here. Writing a book or a script for a movie? Well... DPC should stay away from it. For that the game already has way to many plotholes you have to "oversee" so it can stil work out.
This very scene and how the MC acts later on about mona (or to say not acting at all, like he dont know anything) is one of many so called plotholes in the game we have to deal with and DPC cant do anything about it anymore... (well of course he could delete this scene for examplem but would that be a good way to go about it?)
Its not THAT important though i think. Cause even if the MC would connect all the dots... he couldnt do anything about it anyways alone... he at least needs some proof or other witnesses and overall the MC is still very passive "doing things". A thing that bothers me a lot about him... he is way to passive in every regard, well besides fucking.
The whole plot about Burke, the HOTs, the prostituion is stil to come... its lingering around like a dark cloud over everything. And overall its the "main-plot" of the college. But at this point its still way to early to get this thing REALLY started. I would say even at the end of season 3 it would be still to early to get this rolling... To solve this and bring Burke and everything down, will be a thing for the end of the game. So for the last season overall. MAYBE not even in an active role, maybe the MC will be just a bystander overall...
But as i can see it, DPC is aware that he made a little mistake here. that MC saw this thing and doesnt have a little thaught about Mona later on, even when she left college just like that.
DPC was a little more cautious after episode 5 what he made the MC see and what not. regarding the drugs and prostitution, the MC doesnt see many things anymore (the last time was at the big HOTs party i think, where quinn was dealing a little bit... but well, nothing really to bother about)... especially nothing that he bothers about. The little drug use and dealing by quinn? *shrug* be real... anybody of you went to college and DIDNT know that somebody dealt with some things and others use them? And did you guys bother? No of course not. Its a normal thing that some young people do this shit at college... and its not even a big deal around this game as i see it (if it wasnt for burke)
some students are dealing and consuming a little bit of drugs... well... in my schooldays (and iam talking about the age of 14-16 not college age) many fellow students were smoking some weed (even during schoolbreaks right before lessons), and iam pretty sure some even tried harder things too, didnt witnessed that though, only the weed (and that had to come from somewhere? So somebody at school was dealing with it of course). Some teachers looked just in the other direction i think. One girl i knew, at the age of 16 she offered blowjobs for some money. I bet on every school there was a bratty-girl doing that and enough stupid guys using that. (most of these girls you can now see at chaturbate maybe
What makes this a big deal is the involvement of burke though... handling out tuition for sex, and if youre not down with it youre off the college (like mona). And i would bet he gets a cut out of the drug deals too...
But we have to be aware of the fact, that quinn is NOT dealing in a really big way here. These are small deals, heck... she dealt ONE eightball for richard... other than that some pills and weed mostly... and a little speed for private use and some others. Not exactly a Pablo Escobar here. For the police that wouldnt be very high in priority... certainly nothing to start a proper investigation over (with undercover cop and following students... way to expensive to start a investigation like that over the small dealings from quinn). But if it would comes out that Burke has his hands in it too... we are talking about a whole other thing. We ahve to wait and see.
I had missed the MC reacting verbally to the scene in the last screenshot. Yeah, he does see it. DPC does this kind of scenes a lot, where something happens in the middle of something else and it doesn't mean the MC is there too see it. That Mona scene could be one of those except for the last line which awknowledges the MC is there to see it. Tybalt and Jade's is another example of that and I don't think the MC was there listening to their conversation.
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Yeah, but besides him seeing their expressions and the room they came from, there's nothing there for him to see, nothing to make any conclusions beyond Mona not being happy and Burke having a straight face....
That info is nothing more then the fact he seen them there, it's useless for any links to the free tuition scam, Mona left and even if and when she does tell her story, it's still just seeing them together there....
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The persistent file is a global save, it saves your settings, unlockable status by progress or trigger activation and, if included, your achievements.
Your in-game choices are saved in your savefiles, the ones you create while playing the game.
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It's not an immediate deduction but not impossible either. That Mona could be a girl of Quinn, Camila being one, is an easy assumption. At that point that Mona doesn't run away because of a teaching issue becomes less impassable...
After Mona left college, the MC didnt even think about any reason...
yet he knows that Mona was chasing "the free tuition" just like maya did, which is offered by Quinn, he knwos that too, maya told him. The MC knows exactly what this means, of course its the restaurant...
At episode 5 MC knows no matter what your choices are, that camilla and Rio are in the restaurant thing. Heck they even told him that.
So Mona storms out a room, complete meltdown, saying "i cant do this" followed by camilla than Burke... knowing that camillia is in the prostituion and Mona wants the free tuition which means that she needs to go into prostituion as well. Yet he cant connect the dots here??? really? this is rather surprising here, but ok... i could deal with it... UNTIL Mona left the college. After all this what the MC knows and witnessed, there is really no explanation why the MC didnt even asked himself why Mona left, he simply doesnt bother with the fact that mona left at all after everything. Which is totally strange. He shrugs it off, nothing more.
I stick with it, this is a mistake by DPC... the MC should at least make a selfnote like: "hm, has this something to do with the restaurant and the free tuition or Burke? Ah i better keep my mouth shut" or something like that. But nothing... really nothing, that is totally strange... well it is what it is... but facing the end of episode 8, the whole thing gets even more important now. Cause now he is standing in the living room from the burkes, Sage (president of the HOTs) is the daughter of Burkes... if he doesnt connect any dots or asking himself some questions here, he is more stupid than Dawe.
Yeah, I had missed it in my previous posts, but I awknowledge it in the one you're quoting.
The other thing is I don't think the MC has enough information to link it all to Quinn and Burke.
Speaking of Camila. Has she slept with Burke? She says she only wants to use gloryholes to keep anonimity, but if she wants that free tuition...
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There's way more evidence in Maya's scene with Mona and Queen for that and then all other small events happening...
Seeing Burke and Mona together is only worth it if it's to confirm Mona's story and with her gone there's little value to it.
Until Mona spills the beans it's just a useless fact, there's still the girls with knowledge of the free tuition deal, perhaps they don't want to tell but they can give info even if they want to keep their secrets...
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No, but Camila reveals to him that she has refused to deal directly with customers, precisely to avoid adults, and that is why she limits herself to the gloryhole.
But MC only knows that if he goes with Camila in the fifth chapter
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Think Camilla says she doesn't get free tuition but only works for the restaurant...
So basicly she does not have to deal with Burke... She tells that as to why her situation is different from Mona's...
I would like to add, When Mc visited Josy (Hangout) where Jill confrontation happened. Mc said something about Mona and Quinn. I don't clearly remember tho but I think he knows about Burke involvement.
I don't think the MC has any reasons (yet) to link the restaurant to Burke. It's just Mona and Burke comming out of a room. Suspicious for sure, but nothing to link it to the restaurant. Camila didn't come after Mona from the room, but from the bar, they weren't together. The MC only has this scene of Mona storming out of the mansion and that she quits like a week later (he doesn't know that she was forced to quit either), like a lot of people does. He doesn't have enough information to link it all yet. Maybe to be a bit suspicious, but you can't get any conclusions from that.
I've seen that scene, but she says she does gloryholes only to avoid being recognised, doesn't she? I don't think she mentions adults. It's the same reason why she doesn't want to do the public sex one to help him.
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You can also be right about Jill, MC and piano. Personally, I just find it odd because I'm never that quick to judge people.
In Daz3D there is more than enough hair for 3D Male models. Then there is also Renderosity. No. The new hair for the MC was deliberately chosen by DPC.
Damn. I never had balloons for my birthdays. pew. Thank god. Hahaha.
I think so so we will know who the mobber was. Written differently, I think it was Tybalt. Why? Tybalt has the personality profile of a bully. When he thinks someone is no match for him and he also has buddies behind him, he trumps. He's also a liar. Somehow many want to find out if the MC is lying or Tybalt. Examples:
- The MC tells Josy on the first date that his father taught him many manly things. Carpenter work, martial arts, music. Neil also made him promise to only use his martial arts skills for self-defense or to defend another person. He said to Isabella so that his father probably wanted so that he himself does not become a bully.
- He proves to all LIs and in EP8 so he can play guitar.
- He proves Sage so he can do martial arts. He should also prove so that he uses it like he promised his father. That's why my MC never fights the Jocks and therefore never fights Caleb. Besides, Tommy is a big guy, massively DIK and should be able to defend himself. It was also just a nose punch. Tybalt is a question mark. I think that's for everyone to decide for themselves if a slap in the face justifies Tybalt losing his teeth.
- The Mansion is destroyed and the MC has to prove his carpentry skills.
- The mobbing thing is difficult. At the beginning the MC doesn't know that there are more or less gays at B&R. This can be dismissed as a joke. Tybalt, on the other hand, is massively mobbed by the MC. I do not mean Rooster. This exaggerated friendliness is also bullying, but is usually not perceived as bullying.
- In the second hang out of Josy and Maya, the two check whether the MC is a bad loser or winner. The MC can talk to Tybalt after Tennis 2. I wouldn't be surprised if Tybalt claimed so the MC is a bad winner.
It's not about so that no dent in a car. But mentioning it so explicitly in the context of a driver's license doesn't really make sense to the story if it doesn't mean anything. DPC even mentioned this dent twice.
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It's not an immediate insight, but it's not that prohibitive
MC warns (or at any rate can always warn) Maya of the danger posed by Quinn, to assume that Mona was in the same danger seems to me a fairly likely inference.
When he meets Camila at the ANO party she tells him first that:
cam "Mona wanted to leave, but we're not allowed to before it's over."
mc "Where's she now?"
cam "She's off doing a thing..
then they see Mona escape from a room where Burke is. it is not 1+1 but it is 15896/37, with pen and paper you get there
I reviewed the dialogue, actually she doesn't talk about adults, only that for a handsome and equipped guy like MC she makes an exception, I was misremembering
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MC can warn Maya about Quinn, he also can chose not to....
The situation Maya is in with Mona and Quinn at the pool should be well enough Maya can figure out the danger Quinn presents.
Mona first confirms the free tuition, later in the story she denies it...
And Quinn's innuendo is clear enough, a girl needs to spread her legs and shut her mouth to get that free ticket.... MC's warning, if it even happens, is nothing compared to what Maya herself witnesses from Quinn....
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I said it too that he can, but if he can it means that he knows anyway, there is no MC, in any multiverse, who doesn't know that Quinn is dangerous and running girls to make money
and that's regardless of Maya, Maya has nothing to do with it.
Knowing that, and listening to Camila, MC has all he needs to figure out what might have happened to Mona, then he may not give a damn about Mona and focus on the girls he can still screw, but to say he has no clue is false
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First of all, the MC won't be able to know so that Riona works at the restaurant if the MC declines Quinn's offer. Then, he also can't know so that Sarah and Melanie are on the menu.
The MC can warn Maya about the restaurant because he got it from Quinn offers. He suspects so Camila is at the restaurant, but can't possibly know if he turned down the restaurant offer. So without evidence to make such accusations to the authorities or school administrators, only brings trouble with it. And the MC knows this very well, because he was made a victim to a perpetrator at the age of 15.
The MC asks himself before Mona leaves what is going on with her and if it has something to do with Burke. This was in class when Camila was trying to cheer Mona up.
There are things you don't write down. Why? Someone else might find that note and read it. Think about Derek's to-do list. How much do you think will have helped Derek get Ashley to go to Derek in EP7? I don't and there is a reason for that. In EP1 Maya says to Derek so she won't introduce him to a hot girl. Derek says himself so he will write Ashley off as a loss. But the most important thing is what the MC thinks and says. Follow your heart. So why should he follow Derek's heart.
This should be used as an example so you don't just write down information and also only reveal it at the appropriate moment. For example, in a 4 eye conversation with Stephen Burke when the Maya doesn't want to help in the right way or Jade Burke when Stephen is standing next to her.
Didn't you notice the order in which Jade throws the pictures in EP3.
1. tybalt (Jill Royce blackmail)
2nd Marriage picture (cheating and maybe divorce).
3. Sage (The MC fucked with Sage and Jade)
No more money for Tybalt, Stephen and Sage.
We have already seen so the MC connects dots. Fuck several times and the three different scene in front of the mirror.