VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[ename144]

Hmm, why do you think that they're the group behind the Cathy-cluck? Is it because it just kind of fits with DPC's style of narrative/melodrama or was there some clue or foreshadowing that may have hinted at it?

From my perspective, I don't really see any sense of cohesion(?) among the group. Other than I think they were all at the dorm party. I could be wrong. The middle and right faces just look the same to me so I can't even remember whether we've already seen them. At the very least, I don't think we've been shown any interactions with "Carolyn" and the other two.

I think I can kind of see how they'd be a group based off the last image but I guess I just didn't interpret it that way. Instead of a singular group of women that want to stir up trouble and will run counter to the MC's best interests, I just saw them as three (maybe loosely) connected women that serve as potential temptations for the MC, both symbolically and literally as options in the game. I thought of it like that because of the reintroduction of Zoey into the story fits better with a general theme of temptation. Otherwise with Zoey, it'd feel like two main conflicts running at the same time with some redundancy.

Though honestly, your theory sounds more interesting. I mean, if we're going to have deal with that and basically start from step 1 again with the relationships then might as well make the ride down more fun.
I just wanted to more or less get your two cents on the thought process behind that conclusion.

It's pure speculation on my part; none of the other theories we've tried to really fit the facts of the Cathy-cluck caper, so why not assume it was a previously unknown third party? It's true we don't know if the three of them really are a group (all three are at Becky's dorm party, but they're not together), but the episode title and teaser image at least imply it. So definitely take this with a grain of salt.

That said, I do think it would give the vixens a much needed role in the story. It's all well and good for them to tempt the MC with their feminine wiles, but the game is already awash in side-girls. If DPC is going to introduce three new characters and at least partially name an episode after them, they need some sort of plotline to keep them relevant. Making them discount-nihilists who want to bring down the school's fraternities/sorority is hardly an epic backstory, but it would fit the game well enough. And it would make them distinct from the HOTs (who obviously like the greek system), the Pink Rose girls (who don't care about campus politics), or Zoey (who is likely to be focused solely on the MC).

Just something to ponder as we count down the last few days. If I turn out to be right I'll totally brag about it, otherwise I'll palm it off as me going crazy from the long wait.

Honestly, fuck Chad! Gay or not, you have to be one heck of a despicable person to do what he did. He spent years lying, deceiving, and manipulating another human because he's too big of a pussy. Not only that, he bullies and assaults MC. You can't just do what he did and not face any consequences. I hope he gets what he deserves and more!!!!

There's no question Chad was in the wrong, but I think it's worth remembering that we don't know exactly how long Che has been formally dating Sage. We know they weren't yet dating in the Episode 5 flashback (about 2 years before the start of the game). If you tell Sage the truth, her dialog suggests it took a while before Chad agreed to be her boyfriend:

My guess is that they were only dating for a short time, maybe half a year or so - including the summer vacation when they conveniently didn't see each other very often. My further guess is that this is tied in with Troy; he got kicked out of the Alphas when they learned he was gay, and Chad figured he needed a beard to bolster his totes-no-homo bona fides. So he reversed course and said yes the next time Sage asked him, but said they needed to take things slow.

Again, still a very hurtful thing to do to poor Sage, but not quite the coldly manipulative situation it first appears to be. If we're *very* lucky, maybe we'll find out next week.

Meh, cheating is still fucked up regardless, if she was so certain Chad was cheating and that their relationship was done for, she should've ended it. Then she could fuck all the dudes she wanted, but instead, by trying to play games and cheat on him for revenge, she stoop down to his level and became what she hated so much in the first place.

My take is that Sage wasn't trying to cheat for revenge, she was trying to make Chad jealous (and maybe burn off a little pent-up horniness as well). Her end goal was clearly to remain with Chad, otherwise his dumping her wouldn't have stung nearly as much.

That reminds me, what was that whole thing about Troy and the dorm room getting all fucked up? Was it ever explained or are just left to make assumptions?
My money's on Troy and Chad had a fight and he took the guitar. Otherwise, I don't really know how Chad had it in the first place. It's not like he was going to join the other jocks to randomly fuck up the guy's dorm room because they hate him so it can't be that. At first I thought Troy was involved in some sketchy shit and the other party took the guitar as collateral (that was before finding out about Chad).

It's yet another unexplored mystery, but IMHO there's a relatively simple explanation: Dawe and some of the other alphas went to beat up Troy, then stole the guitar (which they thought was Troy's) for Chad since they knew Sage wanted one.

If my previous theory is correct, Troy would have been kicked out of the alpha's near the end of the previous school year. Dawe, being Dawe, probably wanted to make it clear that Troy wasn't welcome on campus just because he was still a student in good stead. So he rounded up a posse and went to beat up Troy - either without tell Chad or ignoring Chad's 'suggestion' that they leave it alone.

I can’t recall perfectly but doesn’t Sage say something to the effect of she didn’t cheat but she definitely thought about it, or wanted to cheat if you turn her down?

If you have slept with her she is blunt and says she cheated, if you don’t she says she functionally cheated.

You are correct. If the MC rejects Sage she'll say she wanted to cheat even if she didn't pull it off:

Interestingly, she'll definitively say she cheated if the MC only sleeps with her in Episode 7, which shouldn't really be cheating. Either DPC wanted to simplify the branching to avoid a very minor edge case, or Sage was still holding out hope for Chad until the MC finally let Chad's secret out of the bad.

Has anybody completed a celibate playthrough? I'm tempted to try one before Season 3 to kind of see what would happen with Zoey.

Yeah, it's been done; it technically counts as an "Others" run. There's not much remarkable about it at this time. It will be interesting to see if it changes anything with Zoey when she finally reencounters him.

 

[shazba]

I'm sure Chad and Troy WILL be outed; I just hope the dev doesn't make it that it is the MC who has to out them. You already have the option on whether or not to tell Sage, and Josy. I never have and never will if given the choice.

If anything, I would like to see the MC confront Chad to tell him that he knows, and perhaps talk him into telling Sage himself. This is, unless Chad attacks him the moment he says anything. I don't know if there is much of a chance that Chad to listen to what the MC has to say, however by this point he knows that MC did not take the photos he was pissed about, and even had the chance to defend Chad at that meeting the goblin.. err Jill caused.

It's simply not MC's secret to tell. No matter how much he's fallen for Sage.

Honestly, fuck Chad! Gay or not, you have to be one heck of a despicable person to do what he did. He spent years lying, deceiving, and manipulating another human because he's too big of a pussy. Not only that, he bullies and assaults MC. You can't just do what he did and not face any consequences. I hope he gets what he deserves and more!!!!

It's interesting that some people think that not outting a gay dude is like the line they won't cross, but it's OK for him to physically assault others, smash other people's property (he was their leader when they dildoed the DIK mansion for the first time), lie to a girl and string her along for at least a year under false pretences, and cheat on her while doing it.

The guy is a cunt.

People hate on Quinn, but is she forcing girls into prostitution, forcing anyone to take drugs? It is sad that the only unwitting person to Quinn's escapades is also Sage...

But yeah, if Sage hired a private investigator to check up on Chad, he'd come back to her and say, "Your boyfriend is gay". It's up to her how she handles it.

So from the mc's perspective, the guy who attacked him for no reason, the guy who smashed up the DIK's windows (and could have been involved in the total trashing of the mansion - although I don't believe that, it seems the mc does), the guy who was using and cheating on Sage, that guy doesn't deserve any free passes.

And even if you do tell Sage, when she confronts him he just lies straight to her face. She's basically saying, I understand, I get this all now, you don't need to lie to me anymore, and he just lies anyway.

So yeah, like no worries says, fuck him.

My take is that Sage wasn't trying to cheat for revenge, she was trying to make Chad jealous (and maybe burn off a little pent-up horniness as well). Her end goal was clearly to remain with Chad, otherwise his dumping her wouldn't have stung nearly as much.

Sage cheated because she was feeling seriously neglected . And she felt justified because he was already doing it.

Interestingly, she'll definitively say she cheated if the MC only sleeps with her in Episode 7, which shouldn't really be cheating. Either DPC wanted to simplify the branching to avoid a very minor edge case, or Sage was still holding out hope for Chad until the MC finally let Chad's secret out of the bad.

Considering Sage comes on strong with the mc when she first kisses him in her room (even if you stop it), if that progressed to sex by episode 7, even if nothing else happened between, I could understand how Sage sees that as cheating, even if she didn't physically fuck the mc until after the dumping.

 

[FlorenThanos Perez]

there is nothing wrong with the most divine supernatural beauty josy
this is a fairy love angel specially sent on earth to spread love and hope.

her beautiful auburn hair was specially made by the smallest elves in the world.
and oh,those beautiful emerald greenish shimmering twinkling eyes are to drowning in.

but then when i look down,
my eyes almost pop out of my eye sockets,
these are the most beautiful malleable,most delicious breasts and nipples god has created.

josy,josy,josy,josy,
for you the gates of heaven will open wide,
and all the greatest angels of love on earth will appear,
under your rule.

for you are the most immortal supernatural most divine beauty ever to appear on earth.
ti amo,ti amo,il mio preferito josy

Shakespeare, everyone. Has a poem for like 3 LIs already. When will Sage get hers? (if you haven't already written one)

 

[becuz313]

is it just me or was Bellas husband at the preps party? i a m sure someone has already said this though

 

[allanl9020142]

That said, I do think it would give the vixens a much needed role in the story.

Agreed. It'd definitely make things more interesting if they were made to be some kind of intentional counter-culture group. There's the whole thing about Becky saying greek life is out of style or something so it could be played off that. Most of the antagonists we've seen so far are still within that social circle. Since the DIKs have the Alphas, it'd be fun to see something that somewhat runs against the HOTs. It works out logically that way too because for example: Quinn wouldn't try to steal the MC from Sage and Bianca wouldn't try to steal him from Jill. There's a narrative need for a labeled "out" group. I just have no fucking clue how Zoey will fit in to the those dynamics.
Ultimately, I hope you're right. It'd at least make for a more interesting story. Plus it increases the likelihood of cat fights. Which I just want to see for some reason. DIK Zoey got the ball rolling. The dudes fight each other, why can't the girls do the same? Lol. (half kidding, I don't want to actually see that but it'd be hilarious to see massive amounts of passive-aggression)

Just something to ponder as we count down the last few days. If I turn out to be right I'll totally brag about it, otherwise I'll palm it off as me going crazy from the long wait.

Bookmark it just in case!

It's yet another unexplored mystery, but IMHO there's a relatively simple explanation: Dawe and some of the other alphas went to beat up Troy, then stole the guitar (which they thought was Troy's) for Chad since they knew Sage wanted one.

I guess it wouldn't be a question of motive but I feel like it'd take some long explanation for how that chain of events happened. I had an initial theory about Chad and Troy getting into a relationship fight but I took it back after thinking about it some more. ffive actually suggested that the jocks might have gone looking for the MC to fuck with him but then found Troy instead or something along those lines. I feel like that might be more plausible. It kind of follows a logical sequence of events because otherwise why would they have done it at the specific timing, you know? It'd need a completely separate explanation from DPC when a simpler one is up for grabs.

 

[HoneyLibido]

Guys do I need to play that interlude before the proper season 3? I remember it from earlier but I had put it off for like.. the whole year.

Figured it was just some side story with the ex so I didn't give it that priority, unless I was wrong and there was some big story going on there that supposed to be relevant?

 

[marcomemmey]

Which episode is it that has the scene of Burke seeing the video of MC and Jade? I actually did that scene but then abandoned that save because I still wanted to keep on the main girls route. I'll have to go and download the other guy's save just in case something happens in episode 9.

 

[clitcommander]

I know it's impossible but I'd very much appreciate it if this was a real route. Imagine it. Solo Josy route ... but MC's still DIK status.

She does seem to react favorably to enough of those choices you wonder why

 

[JETracktor]

With Jill

 

[Kellermann]

It's pure speculation on my part; none of the other theories we've tried to really fit the facts of the Cathy-cluck caper, so why not assume it was a previously unknown third party? It's true we don't know if the three of them really are a group (all three are at Becky's dorm party, but they're not together), but the episode title and teaser image at least imply it. So definitely take this with a grain of salt.

That said, I do think it would give the vixens a much needed role in the story. It's all well and good for them to tempt the MC with their feminine wiles, but the game is already awash in side-girls. If DPC is going to introduce three new characters and at least partially name an episode after them, they need some sort of plotline to keep them relevant. Making them discount-nihilists who want to bring down the school's fraternities/sorority is hardly an epic backstory, but it would fit the game well enough. And it would make them distinct from the HOTs (who obviously like the greek system), the Pink Rose girls (who don't care about campus politics), or Zoey (who is likely to be focused solely on the MC).

Just something to ponder as we count down the last few days. If I turn out to be right I'll totally brag about it, otherwise I'll palm it off as me going crazy from the long wait.



There's no question Chad was in the wrong, but I think it's worth remembering that we don't know exactly how long Che has been formally dating Sage. We know they weren't yet dating in the Episode 5 flashback (about 2 years before the start of the game). If you tell Sage the truth, her dialog suggests it took a while before Chad agreed to be her boyfriend:
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My guess is that they were only dating for a short time, maybe half a year or so - including the summer vacation when they conveniently didn't see each other very often. My further guess is that this is tied in with Troy; he got kicked out of the Alphas when they learned he was gay, and Chad figured he needed a beard to bolster his totes-no-homo bona fides. So he reversed course and said yes the next time Sage asked him, but said they needed to take things slow.

Again, still a very hurtful thing to do to poor Sage, but not quite the coldly manipulative situation it first appears to be. If we're *very* lucky, maybe we'll find out next week.



My take is that Sage wasn't trying to cheat for revenge, she was trying to make Chad jealous (and maybe burn off a little pent-up horniness as well). Her end goal was clearly to remain with Chad, otherwise his dumping her wouldn't have stung nearly as much.



It's yet another unexplored mystery, but IMHO there's a relatively simple explanation: Dawe and some of the other alphas went to beat up Troy, then stole the guitar (which they thought was Troy's) for Chad since they knew Sage wanted one.

If my previous theory is correct, Troy would have been kicked out of the alpha's near the end of the previous school year. Dawe, being Dawe, probably wanted to make it clear that Troy wasn't welcome on campus just because he was still a student in good stead. So he rounded up a posse and went to beat up Troy - either without tell Chad or ignoring Chad's 'suggestion' that they leave it alone.



You are correct. If the MC rejects Sage she'll say she wanted to cheat even if she didn't pull it off:
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Interestingly, she'll definitively say she cheated if the MC only sleeps with her in Episode 7, which shouldn't really be cheating. Either DPC wanted to simplify the branching to avoid a very minor edge case, or Sage was still holding out hope for Chad until the MC finally let Chad's secret out of the bad.



Yeah, it's been done; it technically counts as an "Others" run. There's not much remarkable about it at this time. It will be interesting to see if it changes anything with Zoey when she finally reencounters him.

Oi, ename are you going to do an episode 9 review? If so, can you please include a short spoiler free for-Kellermann section at the top of the post? Big ask I know, but I can throw in a guaranteed like reaction for your trouble or even upgrade it to a jizz in muh pants reaction if that will sweeten the pot. No rush either because I don't care when/if I play. Mid-January or later review is no problem.

Anyway, since your concerns with this game are near identical to mine, I am just going to search for your review and then decide whether or not to fuck off from this and save the bandwidth. My interest level has been rock bottom lately and anything less than a stellar rating from you and I will likely relegate this one to the porn game dustbin. Haven't played since Interlude(?) and it is hogging up vital fap storage space.

I think the only episode storyline I am still mildly interested in at this point is identity of secret blackmailer(s)/voyeur running around B&R. Don't care about Zoey return, don't care about the meeting at Burkes, don't even care about butt-fucking Jill anymore. Even lost interest in this Halloween party that I had been asking for since first arriving at thread. Can't get in the mood for a Halloween at December.

 

[TheBigWater]

Oh update in 5 days? I guess its time to make some saves for different routes lol

 

[StreamSteam]

My reaction after i realized that the new update is still not out

 

[NebulousShooter]

... or Sage was still holding out hope for Chad until the MC finally let Chad's secret out of the bad.

Quite possible

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[znar25]

i just hope one thing, the game doesnt go downhill like acting lessons
im really trying not to make a big expectation

Acting Lessons was perfectly executed. It was a unique way to do the story. I really liked how the story played out. Yes, sad. but still a good story.

 

[znar25]

With less than a week to go until the next release I wonder if there's anyone willing to share transfer saves with mini games disabled... I've seen ones from
SteveyP but personally I just want the novel part

You have had almost 13 months to get all your path saves organized.

 

[ToshinRaizen]

is 16th release for all or only top tier...?

 

[Lovetities]

is 16th release for all or only top tier...?

Top tier and the pirates

 

[NebulousShooter]

The gym is not owned by Chad's father or the Alphas. That's not written anywhere. They act like they own the gym, but they don't.

I am pretty sure that its said that Dawe's family owns it, but since I'm replaying right now, I will return to confirm, or deny this.

 

[dalli_x]

It's yet another unexplored mystery, but IMHO there's a relatively simple explanation: Dawe and some of the other alphas went to beat up Troy, then stole the guitar (which they thought was Troy's) for Chad since they knew Sage wanted one.

If my previous theory is correct, Troy would have been kicked out of the alpha's near the end of the previous school year. Dawe, being Dawe, probably wanted to make it clear that Troy wasn't welcome on campus just because he was still a student in good stead. So he rounded up a posse and went to beat up Troy - either without tell Chad or ignoring Chad's 'suggestion' that they leave it alone.

The Alphas know Troy and Troy was an Alpha. Therefore, they know so Troy does not play a guitar and will not have thought so it is his guitar. The Alphas did not beat up Troy. Chad was still the president of the Alphas at that point. Through Riona we know so the Alphas are afraid of Chad and Chad would not let the Jocks beat up Troy. There is a difference between the Jocks talking bad about Troy and beating him up. That's absurd.

Tommy and Quinn have put together a puzzle regarding Troy and Chad and know that Troy and Chad are gay. Quinn knows for sure as Sage's girlfriend so Chad doesn't have sex with Sage often, if ever. Tommy overheard Chad dealing with Troy.

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My guess is so Troy voluntarily let Tommy punch him in the black eye because Troy wants to be with Chad. But he can only do that if Chad is separated from the Alphas and from Sage. The MC's guitar is the Trojan Horse and ends up with Sage via wrong ways. Tommy gives Quinn the guitar because he can't give it to Chad. Quinn pretends so she wants to help Chad fight with Sage and Quinn will know, as Chad does, so Sage has always wanted to learn to play guitar. Chad gives Sage the guitar.

Oddly enough, the MC has to break into the HOTs to steal a pair of panties. Tommy calls Quinn before the MC arrives at the HOTs. So Quinn knew the MC was coming. She steals his clothes, wallet and cell phone. Thus, the MC was forced to go to the HOTs the next day to retrieve his stuff and Quinn sends him to Sage where he sees his guitar. Trojan Horse. Everything is done to make Sage and the MC get closer.

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The drama that has its beginning here is this. On the Derek Branch of EP4 we learn so that the MC is inherently cool with gay relationships. In EP8 this is even confirmed because the MC doesn't care at first so Chad and Troy are gay. The MC says it's still cheating whether it's with a woman or a guy. He does not differentiate. Cheating is cheating. Derek also tells the MC in EP4 to toughen up mentally. Why? It's not because of Josy and Maya.

In EP9 Sage will put the puzzle together so everything was done to break Chad and her apart. So that multiple people were involved. She will confront MC about it because he is the last piece of the puzzle. She will notice so MC didn't know about it. Now she has the problem what MC had with Sage in EP8. Does she tell him so he was lied to and used by some DIK brothers. How will the MC react to this? Jill doesn't like the DIKs and Josy couldn't believe so he pledged himself to the DIKs because is too sweet for the DIKs.

As it says in the beginning. If he loses his family or his family loses him. In the last text messages from EP8 to Josy, the MC can call the DIKs his family.

 

[dalli_x]

Agreed. It'd definitely make things more interesting if they were made to be some kind of intentional counter-culture group. There's the whole thing about Becky saying greek life is out of style or something so it could be played off that. Most of the antagonists we've seen so far are still within that social circle. Since the DIKs have the Alphas, it'd be fun to see something that somewhat runs against the HOTs. It works out logically that way too because for example: Quinn wouldn't try to steal the MC from Sage and Bianca wouldn't try to steal him from Jill. There's a narrative need for a labeled "out" group. I just have no fucking clue how Zoey will fit in to the those dynamics.
Ultimately, I hope you're right. It'd at least make for a more interesting story. Plus it increases the likelihood of cat fights. Which I just want to see for some reason. DIK Zoey got the ball rolling. The dudes fight each other, why can't the girls do the same? Lol. (half kidding, I don't want to actually see that but it'd be hilarious to see massive amounts of passive-aggression)

That reminds me. What if the Vixens have founded a sisterhood or want to. OMG.