VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Darkwen]

True, Josy storyline is probably the most bland compared to other characters. Her relationship with Maya is pretty taxing considering Maya problems steal attention from her. Hopefully Josy solo route will change that. I really liked her in season 1 before her relationship with Maya came to light.

For me Maya's problems don't take attention away from Josy. People forget Josy joined the hots leaving Maya's dorm, Josy joined a gym with MC, Josy finds ways to try to help Maya with her problems and I'll add Maya is joining the HoTs because of Josy and talking to Sage. Maya is my second favorbit girl but in the same time Josy did all that Maya did nothing. So my point is that Josy is the best and yes she has a story some of it is just jointed with Maya

 

[Ilhares]

If "she looks creepily like my former stepmother" wasn't a boner killer we might have to wonder about some things.....

Her sisters were quite attractive, but it was her personality that was the major turnoff. Josy has a great personality, but the scars of my youthful psyche are hard to overcome.

 

[BrockLanders]

Her sisters were quite attractive, but it was her personality that was the major turnoff. Josy has a great personality, but the scars of my youthful psyche are hard to overcome.

Totally understandable. My mom was a cunt so I guess that's why my biggest turnoff is fat smokers. Goddamn Freud.

 

[lobotomist]

For me Maya's problems don't take attention away from Josy. People forget Josy joined the hots leaving Maya's dorm, Josy joined a gym with MC, Josy finds ways to try to help Maya with her problems and I'll add Maya is joining the HoTs because of Josy and talking to Sage. Maya is my second favorbit girl but in the same time Josy did all that Maya did nothing. So my point is that Josy is the best and yes she has a story some of it is just jointed with Maya

Not really, Josy is very likeable an she is definitely my second favourite character, but she has the same problem as haley dunphy: DrPincake seems to struggle to find something interesting for Josy to do besides her relationships with other characters. Her character existence is completely co-dependent. When your character strongest traits are the relationships they have with other people, then you don't have a very strong character at all.

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Look at the examples you gave all of them are not really about josy but about someone else and josy is just there for the ride.
Usually characters have goals and struggles that they need to acomplish and overcome troughout the story. Of all the examples you mentioned the closest to that is the gym one, and that is overcome because it is a porn game, so her goal of fitness is already achieved because porn characters have to be hot by default.

 

[Darkwen]

Not really, Josy is very likeable an she is definitely my second favourite character, but she has the same problem as haley dunphy: DrPincake seems to struggle to find something interesting for Josy to do besides her relationships with other characters. Her character existence is completely co-dependent. When your character strongest traits are the relationships they have with other people, then you don't have a very strong character at all.

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Look at the examples you gave all of them are not really about josy but about someone else and josy is just there for the ride.
Usually characters have goals and struggles that they need to acomplish and overcome troughout the story. Of all the examples you mentioned the closest to that is the gym one, and that is overcome because it is a porn game, so her goal of fitness is already achieved because porn characters have to be hot by default.

Not at all, Josy does have struggles and a goals to accomplish like her relationship with MC with or without Maya, Josy is a very strong character but if there is anything that holds Josy back is her willingness to put what she wants on the back- burner but that is part of her story and is likely something we will she Josy grow out of slowly has season 3 goes on.

 

[Wizard_Shiryuu]

DPC has stated that Quinn will become a main LI along with the other main girls. But for a lot of the story she is a Side Girl labelled under "Others". I am guessing, because Quinn asked the MC to assist her in a meet, that the adventures, and outcome, of the small adventure will cause Quinn's walls to crumble and she will fall, properly, for the MC.

He never said that. Actually what he said is that people give too much importance to the label LI or SG.

 

[dalli_x]

Dawe's face at the end of Ep.9 is indeed suspicious (As always, Quinn's plan was not perfect, though not her fault this time). It certainly doesn't pay Dawe to take the risk of attacking the DIKs because his fraternity is under surveillance and he has a much more serious problem with future fatherhood. So starting shit and risking dropping out of college would be stupid, but here's the thing. IT'S DAWE. Dawe and "think with your head" are incompatible things. So something really bad could happen.

Of course, it's Quinn's fault. Arieth wanted to do the Halloween because she doesn't have 6 more years of college. Why? She's pregnant. Why? Because Quinn switched Dawe's birth control pills with sugar pills.

Quinn's problem will become for the Jocks to find out so Quinn cheated them with the birth control pills. The Jocks, on the other hand, can't involve the authorities, because then it will be known that the Jocks are cheating. As we know from EP1, the Jocks can get angry. Not good for Quinn.

Dawe face is naturally suspicious because he suspects he is not the father because he got the photos, showing evidence of Arieth's infidelity. But Dawe will suspect a DIK. I rule out Anthony, Alex, and Caleb as possible fathers. My candidates for paternity are two nerds.

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Either Bert and the pink jacket guy will be. When. EP4 Derek Branch. The MC kicks Ron through the door and the guy who wanted to fuck Arieth takes off, leaving a horny Arieth behind in a dorm full of nerds. If the MC isn't on Derek's Branch in EP4, the guy running away is the father.

The problem Dawe has now is so he can't trust Quinn anymore. In EP9 the MC said to Sage so he is tired of the fight between JOCKs and the DIKs. But who has been a member of the Gym since EP8? Josy and the MC.

Dawe knows through Anthony so the MC is not the one who took the photos and Chad will remind Dawe at the Gym. I can well imagine so there will be a fight between Caleb and the MC. But it will not be a streetfight, but an agreed fair fight in the Gym. Isabella's presence will make sure of that.

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When the MC faces the fight, he gains the respect of the Jocks because he is not a Baby Dik, as Caleb called the Diks in EP5. This gets the ball rolling, whereby the DIKs and the JOCKs could make peace.

I figure so that by extension Quinn and Tommy will be stripped of their VP position. Dawe will also not be able to hold on as president of the JOCKS.

 

[dalli_x]

Watching the status reports and previews, I notice that this development cycle is very quiet, compared to Ep.9, which had a lot more hype. DPC has become very rare to give the number of finished renders / animations. 200 animations is a good number for 4 months and 11 days of development, but it's the number of posed animations. How many have been completed is unknown, so it's impossible to give a precise estimate of development time. But I think that it is not less than 8 months. The reports are very uninformative, he just tells what he is working on.
Previews are the same, they are pretty basic. Only one preview of Riona caused an explosion, we joked with Jill once again, and laughed with laughter from DPCs trolling when he posted Josy and Maya against the processed green screen from Ep.9. And thats all.

Plus this clone series, which caused total misunderstanding and laughter, because it was mostly dull. DPC could drop a bomb and make "special renders" like something like below under the spoiler, ottercon I know you'll love this. Some of the fans would be outraged, someone would unsubscribe, but it would be epic and really funny:

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Status update 07.04.2023
"I've been bumping my render and animation quality in Season 3, but my render power has more or less stayed the same for quite some time now. I decided to invest a lot more into hardware and am currently in the process of upgrading my systems with 4090s and building brand-new rigs."

Status update 21.04.2023
"I've built a decent animation queue again; 47 animations are in the queue (but some will be merged into one). Animations clearly render faster than before, even though I haven't got the final rig of the upgrade into place."

Status update 28.04.2023
"The new PCs have finished rendering several longer animations pretty damned fast too."

I imagine it will be less than 8 months. As we can read from the status update reports, his render speed has increased quite a bit, which surprised DPC himself and was his biggest problem during EP9 development. Problem solved and full steam ahead to the finish.

 

[palmtrees89]

Animations clearly render faster than before, even though I haven't got the final rig of the upgrade into place."

That's pretty much an understatement, imo. A 4090 renders up to twice as fast compared to a 3090, and I (we?) don't even know if he's been using the latter or even older GPU's (2080ti's maybe?).

 

[Ilhares]

That's pretty much an understatement, imo. A 4090 renders up to twice as fast compared to a 3090, and I (we?) don't even know if he's been using the latter or even older GPU's (2080ti's maybe?).

He was using systems with dual 3090s, I believe. Screenshots of discussion were shared over the past few years.

 

[Orgitas]

Having all those PCs with 4090s in them. Crazy. Able to pump out a 2k scene in 20-30 seconds? Madness. Takes me 20-40 minutes!(depending on scene complexity. I love AMD cards but equally hate them *cry*). His minute long animations will render in a matter of hours rather then days.

So damn jealous. Grrr.

 

[DanMotta]

She said something like , why don't you go to your dinner dated you so like to do.
so far that was the most chill "dumping" in the game.
No Drama, no Crying, no storming out, just a simple, yeah go do your thing, bye.

But how she knows he goes to dinner dates? lol. She might be really interested in MC to know things like that, what makes Quinn even more special. Gotta love her. I don't have this reaction because I never ever play Jill's route. But it is interesting how to every path you follow there is a different reaction from Quinn towards you. This is why I love her. I got so many different reactions from her already. Like when you are having sex with Sage on the backyard in the Hot's party, And she looks disappointed when Riona tells her. She is deffo the most worked character in this game by dpc. I don't see any other like her.

 

[DanMotta]

I know you don't like her, but really? Jill is superior than Quinn?
Sound like a bad joke
Anyway, no one of them is superior, we all know the truth: there's two superior girls.
One is redhead, second one is blue-haired.

Jill is superior in a kid's party playing a banana or a queen bee or just a normal clown lol. That's the only enviroment where she is superior.

 

[DanMotta]

Beautiful eyes, and a deep sensual look. The view of a girl of a great analytical mind, a connoisseur of Nietzsche, Hegel and Kant. We can say that the library is her natural environment.

I wouldn't be surprised if she was all that. After all she is the only one besides the people whe have already seen studying at the library who was reading a book quiet in her room. Some especulate it is her "business book list", but it could actually be she studying all by herself and actually enjoying a good read lol. I wouldn't be surprised if she actually apreciated good philosophy autors.

 

[DanMotta]

If all of you were in a room in real life arguing about who the best girl is that would be my que to walk in acting all chad and slam my fist down on the table and yell "MAYA & JOSY BEST GIRLS!!!!" I then proceed to walk out of said room still looking as dashing as when I entered, While everyone is stunned into silence.

I would have puked in your hand just by listening the name Maya. There, you'd have a puked chad hand laying on the table lol.

 

[DanMotta]

Not yet. This scene most important requirement - romance and date only her, so you don't grab J&M, Sage or Bella to EP8 choice scene, overwise it won't work. You must fail and not complete her path in full. You just can try to do it with DIK affinity - it's the easiest way. Then you will automatically fail in EP7 scene when MC decided to fight for her or not. If MC come to her with DIK affinity - she silently rejects him. If you decide to not fight for her - same thing happens. If this conditions met, then in EP8 branch chooce scene she will be available as well as "others" which is sick thing, since J&M and Jill paths always blocks the "Others" branch.

If you haven't fully completed her path (she haven't invited you to dinner in EP8) and chose another girl, then you will have additional scene in EP9 - similar to break up with her scene, but with good ending. There both Jill and MC discussing what's gone wrong with their relationships and deciding to stay good friends. I got it by playing my J&M DIK run.

just imagine going through all that trouble for one girl who isn't worth that much and won't even give you a blowjob and get rejected by her at the end lol. And having no one else to lean towards because you avoided most of them to try and pursue this one girl in college, just after getting your heart broken by Josy and Maya. The guy will spend half of his college life blue balled, wonder if that is worth it lol. But probably the player who gets this ending is a womanizer irl

 

[DanMotta]

Yes, it's this scene exactly.

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She flashes only when MC status is Neutral or higher (DIK), also dialogue lines is different.
Neutral affinity in case you made a lot of Chick major choises at the end doesn't guarantee getting this scene, because there are no enough time to get Neutral status, scene happens in EP9 free roam 2nd stage.
DIK aff - 100% leads to this scene, because you can't fall below Neutral status and usually stay at DIK scale.

Do you need to be in a relationship with her and the other girl though? or can you get it only by desiring her after mentioning that to derek? Because if you need the first, not enough for that boob flash

 

[DanMotta]

I mean, when the MC is not on Jill's route and hasn't completed Season 2 as a couple with her, she is the best version of herself. She gradually relaxes, emerging from her shell of the "innocent and naive princess from the tower", which was deliberately created by DPC. The bee suit is one of these hints, the other is an adult reaction to the break with MC we discussed above.

Very serious differences in psychology, it's like two different characters. Jill with MC is acting weird. Wears a ridiculous costume - the smallest elephant in the room. It's more of a source for memes and laughter. 1. Much more serious that she does not see how Bianca hitting on MC. It's happening right before her eyes. And she also accused Tybalt of not understanding social cues. 2. She still needs protection. Oh no, I can't take the walk of shame, Tremolo my knight, protect me. It's not like the Jill in Season 1 and the Jill who fried Rusty in Ep 5 and Tybalt in the restaurant. Rollback to an insecure girl. 3. Naive behavior in the style of vanilla romantic opera. Oh, let's officially announce to everyone that we're dating. Oh, let's get to know my parents as soon as possible! It's the 21st century, who does that at the beginning of a relationship now? These are the highlights and major differences in behavior that led me to ask the question, "What the hell is going on?"

And to make your thoughts a lot better, it is totally different from what we expected from her when we started the game. Jill is the first girl we see when we first start playing the game, she interacts with the MC and DPC (The developer) and she is witty, smart, mature on that short preview of the game, when you are still answering if you have played a previous DPC game and if you are over 18. That is what we expected from her, but when you pursue her, have her as your main girl in the game, she is the total opposite of the personality he pictured of her. But in all honesty. I've seen girls like her in real life, but just as real life once, I let them go I didn't care anymore even if they changed their behavior and became more mature to get my attention at first, before following their own pasth

 

[Jumbi]

He was using systems with dual 3090s, I believe. Screenshots of discussion were shared over the past few years.

If my memory serves me well, there was a recent post, by Geralt From Rivia, I think, that stated that DPC's previous system composed of four PCs with dual 3090s in each one.

But how she knows he goes to dinner dates? lol.

I myself haven't played that scene where Quinn rejects the MC either. I have only seen one screenshot that toobextra posted the other day and read the lines she says in that specific scenario. Anyway, to reply your question, she knows because she passes by when Jill is asking you to accompany her to her friends' dinner. It is my assumption that she got that info at that moment.

I wouldn't be surprised if she was all that. After all she is the only one besides the people whe have already seen studying at the library who was reading a book quiet in her room. Some especulate it is her "business book list", but it could actually be she studying all by herself and actually enjoying a good read lol. I wouldn't be surprised if she actually apreciated good philosophy autors.

Besides the time when the MC hangs out with Quinn in episode 7 and asks her about that book, with her elusive reply, I recall two other instances in which we see it. One is that moment at the end of episode 7 you are referring to. If you pay close attention, you'll notice that she has a pen in her hand. Therefore, while it does not entirely rule out the possibility that she is reading (she might be indeed studying and marking important lines of the text), the fact that she glances a look at the top of the dresser or whatever that piece of furniture is, where we can see what is shown in the screenshot below, suggests that either it is indeed kind of her business book list or her diary.




The other instance in which we get to see the book I was referring to is by the end of episode 8, just after the MC narrates how by that time he felt like, generally speaking, things were changing for the better. This is the screenshot.



This image would reinforce the idea that in that book she keeps accounting or other business information.

 

[DanMotta]

Well that's another one of DPC's magic
Here she is at MC's height level,
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but here she a bit shorter than him
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characters height also probably depend on the scenes

The relative heights are quite fluctuating. Josy in the comparisons of Sage and Jill seems to be half as tall, but in the comparisons of Maya or MC, this disproportion is greatly reduced. My guess is that DPC drops the ball a bit on her to support the jokes about her height

Either that or they are wearing heels. That changes a lot too. Sometimes josy is wearing heels, sometimes sage is. I suppose josy is wearing ballerina shoes with that fairy outfit, while Sage is wearing heels, no? Need to pay attention to that as well.