felicemastronzo

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I view it as short term hook up vs a long lasting relationship kind of thing.

Option 1 get a hook up now with a heated partner only to bite you in the ass later when she finds out you knew the most important secret relevant for her the entire time and didn't tell her.

vs Option 2 Sage actually starting to trust you and view MC more then just a fuck buddy, opening up bit by bit with her feelings.
the game unfortunately by necessity has to be very Manichaean, there are only right or wrong choices. there is no possibility of explaining a choice.

for me it's a bit of a forced situation, Chad left Sage, who he's with is not that important at this point. she MUST know... ok, but also not
 

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Well, I see your point. I guess I've spoken too harshly when I said MC and Sage has no relationship development. What I was trying to say is that I'm a bit dissapointed by the level of this development. Did MC and Sage got closer after 9 episodes? Yes, absolutly. Did MC and Rusty got closer? Also yes. Did MC and Tommy got closer? You won't believe it, but yes again. You see, to me is not just about presense or absence of this process but also about its... quality? Idk, I think what we need is to compare Sage's route with other LI's routes to better undestand what I'm getting at.

I won't go through every single moment, there are good major points to compare: hangout scenes and making official/breakup scenes.

M&J's hangouts: we have a picnic-like scene to see them fooling around together and sharing some sweet moments and a full-scale date at water park as the 2nd hangout where they're also having fun, do some bonding.
Jill's hangout: a birthday picnic. Classic and romantic. Jill shows Tremolo her secret spot, they're making some pictures together, have some drama.
Bella's hangout: a nice little dinner together where they're getting to know each other a little bit better, having some fun and making a step further in their relationship.
Quinn's hangout (side girl btw, mhm, with a hangout scene): spending some time at Quinn's place, MC's starting to know Quinn better and we also witness how Quinn's shell gives a crack.
Sage's hangout: Tremolo! To the rescue! Sage needs your help again. I mean caring about someone who's sick is a sweet moment but comparing to other hangout scenes it feels like this one is lacking of something. I almost feel like we see more bonding between Rio and Tremolo than between Tremolo and Sage.

MO with M&J: jumps, hugs, kisses. Pure overjoy.
M&J's breakup: Josy storms out in tears, Maya thanks MC for everything they had and how he changed her with grim expression. Pretty dramatic, something that some of BaDIK's enjoyers swore to never repeat.
MO with Jill: MC tries himself in the role of Forrest Gump. I mean it's a classic scene from average romantic drama series.
Jill's breakup: when two drama queens collide. If you though M&J's breakup was dramatic, well, think again.
MO with Bella: a lot of talking about what awaits them and how difficult the path they've chosen. Adressing some elepants.
Bella's breakup: A calm and rational monologue from Bella, the one we'd believe if we wasn't see how her face expression changed during it.
MO with Sage and Sage's breakup: "Mm? Oh yeah, sure, whatever" (Like WHAT? Even your mom was more furious when Tremolo broke up with her)

That's how I feel about Sage's route. I like her as a character, I really do and you're right: there is development in hers and MCs relationship. But her route bleaks in comparison to other LI's routes (even cringy Jill, even after her banana clownade). I've played Sage's route last and maybe that's why it felt so tasteless to me.
Just pointing for sages part their breakup was kinda always going to be a thing in her mind if you ask me she's leaving colledge next year and she knows it. She's how you'd say more emotionally stable than the rest of the love interest not to mention you forget Sage is an orphan argo used to being abandoned. You're also forgetting that sage is the tough girl. on equal only to maybe Quin just because she's calm and composed with the breakup during the breakup doesn't mean she's not struggling with it inside or behind closed doors.
 

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I assume so that Caleb has a greater importance, which shows up only later. The probability for Josy to have made her initiation with Caleb is small, but not to be excluded completely. But thinking about it again like this, I rule out Caleb for Josy's initiation. To be honest, I rather believe that Lily made her initiation with Caleb in EP4. Still, I assume so Josy could know Caleb from before college.

Traditions. Guess why Tommy is so pissed to have Josy join the HOTs. He knows the HOT initiation ritual and it involves his stepsister.

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Another thing. I wrote a post the other day about a physical altercation between the Jocks and the MC that could probably take place at the Gym and the whole thing will probably be competitive in nature. Interesting is the conversation between the Gym guy and the MC.

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MC never had to do a initiation because Derek took care of it since they a team unless taking the panties count, so it likely Maya did the initiation so Josy wouldn't have to but if she did I'm sure it a funny story
 

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I view it as short term hook up vs a long lasting relationship kind of thing.

Option 1 get a hook up now with a heated partner only to bite you in the ass later when she finds out you knew the most important secret relevant for her the entire time and didn't tell her.

vs Option 2 Sage actually starting to trust you and view MC more then just a fuck buddy, opening up bit by bit with her feelings.
...Damn Ima have to playthrough again on my Sage playthrough and tell her... That makes sense, I figured it wasn't my place to out him but in retrospect it is prob the best route in a Sage main play.
 

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Hi, does anyone here have a Bella save in chapter 9? My PC broke and I will continue the game through Joiplay
 

Ir0n Ma1den

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Jill look her best in ep 1 and from there went down hill or at least at times she did, but if she had the hairstyle above Jill would be would be a total bombshell rather then a goblin
Well Jill looks good mostly, I did some tweaks to the model and she looks amazing, a bond girl I like. Personlity wise, Jill was dead in my eyes after Sage was sick.
 

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The scenes of the soldier, plus when MC peeks under the always locked door you can see shoes/boots standing facing the door. It is rather spooky.
I legit jump out of my chair at that fucking soldier scene. On the first playthrough, not expecting that. With full creepy sound blasting in my headphone, full volume.
 
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Darkwen

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Derek had to do the same thing. That's why they want to get revenge on Quinn.
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They both had to that Initiation but Derek was talking to the Dik's before MC was so he could had another task he had to do. Fuckface didn't really join the dik till Maya sleep fuck him and then was taking to the diks
 

felicemastronzo

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Here's what's sad: this scene where MC goes to meet Burke is a fixed point in time, the basis of the plot. So at this point, we're on friendly terms with Sage anyway, and we're getting this invitation, which is why we're admitting we're adoptive parents.
It is a pity that we cannot look at events from a different angle, if they developed differently.
if DPC had wanted to emphasize that Sage confided in her adoptive family only to an MC who had built a relationship with her she could have done so, it was not a requirement that the scene be identical in the two cases, just cut part of it, so it would not have constituted a production effort either

already so Sage doesn't look great in it because of plot needs, if she had even not explained in any way why she needed MC's support she would have looked like a selfish bitch.
 

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Derek had to do the same initiation and Quinn also took Derek's clothes. This can be read in EP2 after the cum petition, where Derek and the MC are on their way home. The reasons why the MC and Derek want to commit to the DIKs are different, but not their initiation.

As we can clearly read, the other girls also had to hit on other guys, just different from Maya. Ergo, it must make each new HOT Pledge and Josy becomes a HOT Pledge in EP4.

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Look at the screenshots below. Quinn knows something about Josy and I believe it is related to the initiation.

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But that has to do with Maya and Josy list and we know what was on the list since mc can help with it what we don't know don't is what initiation Josy had. All the other girls would had done there's already and it doesn't seem like the HoTs had something with Jocks after Josy came to BR
 
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I was board, so I used Chatgpt and some of my imegination and created a movie senerio where Jill is a bond girl, and I like the personlity chatgpt gave me then Jill's personlity here. All other females have better and more intreasting personlity then Jill.
 

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Hey, do you happen to have screenshots of how Sage reacts to the proposal become a couple if you only boarded her train in Ep.7? I have never tried this path, ignoring sage is haraam for me. But it's interesting to see.

And what other differences in her behavior, maybe it affects some other scenes?
I have 87 pages filled with saves... YIKES but I like to know shit before forming an opinion DON'T JUDGE ME. The only save that matters to me is my Canon one where all my choices were from personal preference and where I also banged jade but thank fuck didn't brag about it... hopefully Fuckface can keep his dumb mouth shut.
Getting sidetracked, back on topic

doubt I can attach all the variable scenes in the same post but if started being intimate in EP7 wanted to date no real big significant change but there is some:
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The real difference in Sage's reaction is where Fuckface tells her he's got feelings for someone else or wants to be alone and has been intimate with her from the beginning. Sage although is a bit pissed but understand that you're allowed feel different. And to let her know if he thinks he made a mistake. But she's not gonna wait for Fuckface (she only says that when you've been intimate with her from the beginning so I'd say she says that with a bit of spite)
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Not sure if Affinity or Status affects the dialogues, doubt it does here but to make it clear all of em were on DIK Affinity not sure about Status though gotta be some level of DIK obviously.
 
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