VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Orgitas]

You've come to the right place man! Here are how many hot MILFs are in this game:

- Wendy
- Dany
- Minny
- Linda
- Stanley
Enjoy your game!

 

[Kpyna]

1. Maya still have drama with everything, Josy dad doesn't like MC they will drama of some sort there with a little bit with Tommy.

Maya improving and resolving her troubles. The only one remained is her dad, at most.

What makes you think Josy's dad doesn't like MC? Yes, he could put 2+2 and realize that this guy is the one, Josy had date with while being caught. But I don't see any signs of antipathy. At least we should reach appropriate point and scene with their meeting to draw any further conclusions.

Thanks for this answer as well. You seem to have great knowledge not only of the game's story but also of its mechanics. It's really interesting how DPC will resolve this and it's a shame he doesn't want any help at all with the project. Even taking constructive criticism and patching some story beats here and there would be really cool. I just hope the end point of his work is not gonna be a frustrating one. Because, by the looks of it, if he ever ends the project, it's gonna be almost 10 years in the making.
Also, is there any list of all the cheating points MC can gather in EP9?

I am passionate about this game and I like to dig into it, including its code. But I am only one of many and hardly the best in this regard.

If you got interested in variables and other game stuff and mechanics and want something to start with, you may check this link
If you want to know my vision on this game overall, it's plot in particular and how I see origin and further plot and characters development in compare with previous game of author, then you may read it here

Thanks for the answer, but my issue wasn't about the story making sense in this particular situation but in something else. I don't like the fact that Jill only decides to fight for MC if he rejects her for Bella specifically. While I understand why she would want to fight in this specific instance, I believe she would still fight if MC wanted to dump her for Sage or Maya & Josy.

It's sadly the fate of almost every artistic production, which allows for multiple different routes. People's motives, wants, and needs shouldn't change if they weren't or aren't influenced by MC's words or decisions. If you know the game Witcher 2, Act 2 of this game changes completely, which almost influences who wins the war. Yet the only thing changing between those two realities is Geralt of Rivia and that has its flaws. And once, a really crazy guy did a 5-hour analysis of this game, won't even link it because we should be reasonable. But in that video, he presented why it's bad.

So, going back to Being a Dik, it's a sad example where in one universe Jill lost MC to Bella and she wants to fight like hell but in other nothing changed other than the fact that she lost to Sage and suddenly she doesn't need to fight. Which means that Bella is the only changed factor, yet is still doesn't make sense why that wouldn't be the case with Sage.

Like I know that other people look differently at stuff but c'mon. I watched some good and bad dramas, even experienced some myself or seen my friends do it. Fight for a guy, I get it. Fight for a guy who chose different gal, I get it.

But bloody hell, fight for a guy who decided to choose your friend? I can give you the benefit of the doubt that someone would do that, but if they did THAT, they would also fight for a guy who chose a girl you only barely know, you know what? It would be even less taxing on your f*cking psyche.

And why it works like that? Because DPC works with HUGE ammount of variables like @Kpyna pointed out. Maybe we can go back to Jill in episodes 12 or 14, but for now, DPC decided that after rejecting her or going on Others path it's the end of the road. Yet he had plans for her, MC and Bella to have a romantic triangle. Which I 100% understand, because I agree with you, it's gonna be one hell of a drama. Like I can already picture myself playing through this story and having tons of fan. And if you look at this story in isolation, you can see that it makes total sense, great writting, no plot holes. The issue comes if you know many different alternative universes and compare them to one another.

I know that we can explain it to make it make sense, really, it's the only thing we can do. I also know that comparing differetn alternative universe doesn't make much of a sense but even DPC wants us to play the game multiple times. And seeing Jill in the similar circumstance react in different ways JUST BECAUSE is frustrating. I don't like it and I view it as a flaw in the story. Thanks for chippin in.

Any product, especially video games, even so decent and complex like BADIK have it's limitations and borders. At least as long as people make them. You mostly demand impossible. At first, author have it's own vision and plans on the plot and story he want to tell the players. So, choices available to player are not only limited with this factor, but with creator possibilities too. Many grumble that every new episode takes more and more time to release. If all things, ideas and twists you mentioned would be implemented - branching will reach insane levels and development time will increase even more significantly. We are only at the middle, but current branching and potential for further are already looks like impossible or very complex, at least. And it will go worse with each new episode, since amount of permutations and choices with consequences will probably only increase.

Common movies, tv shows and books always offer you only one version of the story, which their creators prepared and realized to viewers or readers. You like it or not, and you can't change it. Most games usually follow the similar path, sometimes allowing 2+ different endings to encourage player to replay, mostly. While most AVNs, which offer branched playthrough and different outcomes should have additional letter in their abreviature, like AIVN, where "I" is "Interactive". Because "AVN" is just an illustrated book, which usually doesn't offer any interactivity.

It is impossible to please everyone and create options and permutations that would suit everyone. Even adding or removing an option can, in principle, have both supporters and opponents, not to mention the very essence of these options.

When the AI reaches such a level that it can generate a plot and giant branchings (not just random ones, but so that they have some kind of meaning and consequences, and not only create the appearance or visibility of choice), then you would probably get what you want, but in such case, I doubt that players will be able to play out all such branches and outcomes.

Such a game will most likely not have any guides, because in order to create them, you will first need to go through all the branches and find out every connections and requirements to reach each point.

So instead of grumbling, try to find a similar-quality game that provides so many choices and potential consequences for each of it. Since BADIK (at least in AVN genre) is on top, I suppose you should be grateful.

 

[KАRАMBA]

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there should be an option to add Quinn to the burning pile

Divine Quinn is not afraid of fire. And any other natural element.

 

[Orgitas]

Divine Quinn is not afraid of fire. And any other natural element.
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The easy way to defeat Quinn is to hug her.

 

[Joshy92]

The easy way to defeat Quinn is to hug her.

I'll do it
I'm a hugger

 

[Orgitas]

I'll do it
I'm a hugger

Great

Spoiler: Don't read this, Joshy.

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[Joshy92]

Great

Spoiler: Don't read this, Joshy.

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Damn You are right
I shouldn't have read that
Hands off Maya bro you can have Tommy

 

[KАRАMBA]

Damn You are right

Don't worry, Joshy. You'll fall into good hands

 

[Kukipett]

Hello happy DIK lovers, long time i've not been here, do we have some news about what's coming next and when ?

 

[Orgitas]

Hello happy DIK lovers, long time i've not been here, do we have some news about what's coming next and when ?

No set date but episode 10 is likely to be released around late September or late October.

 

[YeOldeWanker]

No set date but episode 10 is likely to be released around late September or late October.

Actual legend for bothering to answer these questions for ppl returning to the thread instead of letting them search for it.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Any product, especially video games, even so decent and complex like BADIK have it's limitations and borders. At least as long as people make them. You mostly demand impossible. At first, author have it's own vision and plans on the plot and story he want to tell the players. So, choices available to player are not only limited with this factor, but with creator possibilities too. Many grumble that every new episode takes more and more time to release. If all things, ideas and twists you mentioned would be implemented - branching will reach insane levels and development time will increase even more significantly. We are only at the middle, but current branching and potential for further are already looks like impossible or very complex, at least. And it will go worse with each new episode, since amount of permutations and choices with consequences will probably only increase.

Common movies, tv shows and books always offer you only one version of the story, which their creators prepared and realized to viewers or readers. You like it or not, and you can't change it. Most games usually follow the similar path, sometimes allowing 2+ different endings to encourage player to replay, mostly. While most AVNs, which offer branched playthrough and different outcomes should have additional letter in their abreviature, like AIVN, where "I" is "Interactive". Because "AVN" is just an illustrated book, which usually doesn't offer any interactivity.

It is impossible to please everyone and create options and permutations that would suit everyone. Even adding or removing an option can, in principle, have both supporters and opponents, not to mention the very essence of these options.

When the AI reaches such a level that it can generate a plot and giant branchings (not just random ones, but so that they have some kind of meaning and consequences, and not only create the appearance or visibility of choice), then you would probably get what you want, but in such case, I doubt that players will be able to play out all such branches and outcomes.

Such a game will most likely not have any guides, because in order to create them, you will first need to go through all the branches and find out every connections and requirements to reach each point.

So instead of grumbling, try to find a similar-quality game that provides so many choices and potential consequences for each of it. Since BADIK (at least in AVN genre) is on top, I suppose you should be grateful.

I often say this to the crowd that complains about the increase in the intervals between updates. Game is immersive, it has a choice that opens up more and more possibilities and all of them need to be processed. This happens with all immersive games. Usually starts with a month for a new episode and then numbers grows exponentially. At some point, growth slows down if the developer continues to actively work on the project and doesn't burnout like some, or even worse - doesn't become a scammer (hello ICSTOR). Of course, DPC can cut some content that the community has a consensus about the uselessness of this content, but there are very few of that content. And it will set a precedent for whiners who will ask to cut what they don't like. I understand the emotions of people who want to see the updates ASAP, but I prefer to keep a cold mind and reconcile with the fact that it will be long. DPC tells his story the way he wants to and he does it well.

 

[Joshy92]

Yeah, Orgitas is a cool dude.
Not as cool as me of course but still cool.

 

[Orgitas]

Actual legend for bothering to answer these questions for ppl returning to the thread instead of letting them search for it.

Well, it takes roughly the same amount of effort to tell them as it does to say "SeArCh FoR iT". Plus if you answer properly every now and again people are less inclined to ask because it is right there. If that makes me a legend. Then so be it. Does it come with a badge?

 

[Joshy92]

I often say this to the crowd that complains about the increase in the intervals between updates. Game is immersive, it has a choice that opens up more and more possibilities and all of them need to be processed. This happens with all immersive games. Usually starts with a month for a new episode and then numbers grows exponentially. At some point, growth slows down if the developer continues to actively work on the project and doesn't burnout like some, or even worse - doesn't become a scammer (hello ICSTOR). Of course, DPC can cut some content that the community has a consensus about the uselessness of this content, but there are very few of that content. And it will set a precedent for whiners who will ask to cut what they don't like. I understand the emotions of people who want to see the updates ASAP, but I prefer to keep a cold mind and reconcile with the fact that it will be long. DPC tells his story the way he wants to and he does it well.

You put it into words better than I ever could
I agree with everything you just said

 

[YeOldeWanker]

Well, it takes roughly the same amount of effort to tell them as it does to say "SeArCh FoR iT". Plus if you answer properly every now and again people are less inclined to ask because it is right there. If that makes me a legend. Then so be it. Does it come with a badge?

It comes with my absolute seal of respect, which is completely worthless at first sight, but you can redeem it for a single honor point at your local place of worship after giving the secret handsake (You will receive a pdf with the sketch) . This honor point can then be spent to give yourself a permanent +5 holy damage for the rest of your life, or improve your luck(+2) at salary negotiations.

 

[Orgitas]

It comes with my absolute seal of respect, which is completely worthless at first sight, but you can redeem it for a single honor point at your local place of worship after giving the secret handsake (You will receive a pdf with the sketch) . This honor point can then be spent to give yourself a permanent +5 holy damage for the rest of your life, or improve your luck(+2) at salary negotiations.

 

[dalli_x]

I don't know if it was mentioned here before or not, but playing game one more time while preparing save with particular permutations and goals bringed a fresh clue.

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Man behind Neil is, probably, Pete with Iris (Josy's birth mother). Since things in Lynette diary is happening about 20 years ago, this seems plausible.

The hint is not new. I noticed and posted this a few months ago. This girl is taller than Pete even though she wears flat shoes. Josy is very small and that is genetically determined. So I don't think so that's Iris Moore.

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Let's clear one other thing up before the surprise, because I think the same thing, so Neil and Pete know each other. They're not close friends or anything now, just buddies who see each other occasionally and exchange a word.

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So we have Pete, an unknown girl with definitely dyed hair and on the far right a guy who is on the phone. Of course, this guy is a billboard in this scene because he appears a lot in the game. But a billboard can later be turned into a real character if the need arises. Whom?

Spoiler: Surprise

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[Geralt From Rivia]

You put it into words better than I ever could
I agree with everything you just said

I certainly don't agree with everything DPC does (long animations in poorly-optimized and slow Daz, Madame Rose, Sally, D&G sessions are unnecessary things that I will continue to joke about) but fuck it, his project - his rules.

 

[KАRАMBA]

I certainly don't agree with everything DPC does (long animations in poorly-optimized and slow Daz, Madame Rose, Sally, D&G sessions are unnecessary things that I will continue to joke about) but fuck it, his project - his rules.

It's just a pity that the bus animation was too short. There was something philosophical about it. In the best traditions of Fellini, Antonioni, Kubrick.