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I can imagine his tier list. Mona, Maya & Rio would be in the bottom tier for daring to oppose Quinn. :eek:
it's going to be funny when we finally reach the end of this VN (whenever that will happen) only for all the hard core simps to find out everyone's waifu dies drowning while brushing their teeth. You know how DPC works, you know it's going to happen!

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I can imagine his tier list. Mona, Maya & Rio would be in the bottom tier for daring to oppose Quinn. :eek:
rio and sage may get points for helping mc make quinn cum, but youre probably right lol

it's going to be funny when we finally reach the end of this VN (whenever that will happen) only for all the hard core simps to find out everyone's waifu dies drowning while brushing their teeth. You know how DPC works, you know it's going to happen!

:ROFLMAO:
i came into this hoping he will at least give us a 50/50 chance like last time. but the man has definitely gone further into madness since then so.......hope for the best, expect the worst?
 

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No please not again with this bullshit! I really cannot stand these words used improperly. DPC is not a perfectionist, he's not an obsessed artist. He has never been that, and THANK GOD/VISNU/ALLAH/PINK UNICORN/LENIN that he is far from being a perfectionist. Otherwise, with the massive quantity of the content he produces, we'll have one update every 4-5 years. Just imagine what would it be to pose perfectly, correct, edit assets, then post produce in photoshop, 5000+ single renderings. Plus the animations. That alone would take years. Perfection is useless, 90% of users does not want perfection. You don't even know what perfection means if you think he is a perfectionist.

DPC is a entrepeneur, a business man. An obsessed business man. He's making millions not because he's a naive perfectionist, an unreliable artist, but because he is a concrete and solid business man that plans everything. A person that knows how far he can go with his supporters. Please stop this "perfectionist" bullshit.
A perfectionist would release few hundreds perfect images after 11 months, correcting even the most subtle posing error that 95% of people would never notice (any reference is purely coincidental). DPC makes so many posing errors and he does not give a fuck, because most of the people do not give a fuck or are not even able to see them. I don't think he has changed approach with EP 10, he simply has no time for that.

You say he's "a nut"? Ahah. DPC is not a stupid, he is very clever, rational, methodic, he knows what most of his supporters want. He focuses on important things, not perfectionism, not artistic crafting.
I agree with you. But also want to state to you that you also sound a bit jealous at DPC. Maybe he is making more money in one month than you do in one year. One update a year is really poor. But I am not a patreon and still can play the game though.
 

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I don't really accept that all the girls just instantly melt for the mc:

  • Cammy's first experience with the mc was part of the prank with Quinn, but next was when he paid her for a blow job. She took it further because she wanted too. She's also sucking other guys' cocks in the glory hole, but when the mc caught her with Mona spying on him changing, the mc took control and they went with it. Basically Cammy's pretty easy going with sex (even if she didn't want her face associated with the prostitution ring - that's why she went for blowjobs only).
  • Mona pretty much just went along with Cammy in that scene, but it's not like she's all over the mc. She likes sex, that's about it.
A little bit more than that. Give Mona a beer during the DIK party where the cluck about Cathy gets posted and see.
 
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I have wounder if mc hasn't put his money in the bank could someone try to steal it. Maya was willing to let MC get attack(added she probably didn't know that was about to happen but didn't stop) could she think about stealing the money
I think he already banked his inheritance as he used some of it to buy the 'special' from Quinn, or to put the money back that he borrowed from his college fund to pay for the 'special'.
 
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I think he already banked his inheritance as he used some of it to buy the 'special' from Quinn, or to put the money back that he borrowed from his college fund to pay for the 'special'.
Mc used some of it to join gym with Josy unless Josy payed it, my mc didn't buy anything from quinn. I don't remember if mc said he put it in the bank
 

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the realization that we (myself included) are playing a game where most of the girls we meet instantly melt into a wet puddle at our feet, as if they are nazis and the mc's dick is the lost ark, but then feel comfortable throwing around terms like "in real life" to make points for our theories.....:unsure::LOL::ROFLMAO:

fuck it, im too far gone to turn back now. so, about vinny pulling the gun.

what i see as the irl issues here are that the mc walks into his room, sees vinny trashing it and stops to have a convo first. thats an instant beat down imo, which probably negates vinny having a gun in the first place because vinny wouldnt have seen it comming, and the strikes you dont see comming are the most likely to knock you out.
but ok, it happened, we had the convo, it didnt go well. mc punches vinny in the mouth, and then.........stands back, waiting for vinny to ready himself, when he should have kept throwing, and again possibly negating vinny having the gun. vinny then lifts his shirt to flash the gun thats tucked into the front of his pants (proving hes a real dumbshit gangster). and he does this while in reach of mc, who again, despite being full of liquid courage, does nothing. had he reacted, he either takes the gun, or they struggle, the gun goes off, and happens to be pointed right at vinnys dick, which again, negates vinny having a gun.

you all can debate the likelyhood of successfully disarming a person whos already pointing a gun at your head, and i agree that the chances are slim, but the mc has proven that through courage or stupidity, he has the balls to take on anyone. so how the fuck did it get to the point where vinny had him in that position?
I'm enjoying yours and Sampow's back and forth on this but I'd like to point out a couple of things. A 'what the hell are you doing' reaction to Vinny is understandable. Except for Oscar and Troy, a DIK version of Tremolo is typically squaring off with someone. Troy, he's pissed about his guitar. Dawe threw the first punch, and the MC could believably feel that he has no choice but to fight Anthony, John and Alex after fighting Dawe. Chad attacked him. Caleb picked that fight. Tommy punched him first. (sometimes even on a DIK playthrough I'll not fight Tommy. 1. Family first 2. Josy kicking him in the nuts is classic.)

On a tangent: In support of Sampow's convo with Derek is the convo with Tommy after the confrontation in the basement where they talk about how their actions brought about the trashing of the mansion: the whole "Tremolo doesn't know what a bear is" convo.

Putting all that aside though, I think in your situation of flat out attacking Vinnie without warning just ends in a dead Tremolo. Tremolo doesn't know how to punch. I mean, sure, he knows where to punch but that's not the same thing. He's knocked out zero people whom he's fought. He pulls all his punches. The guy in the gym pointed it out. He probably focuses all his power at the point of impact instead of an inch beyond impact where you're supposed to. Because of that, he might knock Vinnie down but he's not gonna knock him out. Vinnie would probably just end up shooting him.
 

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I'm enjoying yours and Sampow's back and forth on this but I'd like to point out a couple of things. A 'what the hell are you doing' reaction to Vinny is understandable. Except for Oscar and Troy, a DIK version of Tremolo is typically squaring off with someone. Troy, he's pissed about his guitar. Dawe threw the first punch, and the MC could believably feel that he has no choice but to fight Anthony, John and Alex after fighting Dawe. Chad attacked him. Caleb picked that fight. Tommy punched him first. (sometimes even on a DIK playthrough I'll not fight Tommy. 1. Family first 2. Josy kicking him in the nuts is classic.)

On a tangent: In support of Sampow's convo with Derek is the convo with Tommy after the confrontation in the basement where they talk about how their actions brought about the trashing of the mansion: the whole "Tremolo doesn't know what a bear is" convo.

Putting all that aside though, I think in your situation of flat out attacking Vinnie without warning just ends in a dead Tremolo. Tremolo doesn't know how to punch. I mean, sure, he knows where to punch but that's not the same thing. He's knocked out zero people whom he's fought. He pulls all his punches. The guy in the gym pointed it out. He probably focuses all his power at the point of impact instead of an inch beyond impact where you're supposed to. Because of that, he might knock Vinnie down but he's not gonna knock him out. Vinnie would probably just end up shooting him.
tbh, i think ive said all i have to say on most of that, so i dont have a lot to add here, but like trem, ill take a swing.
think of all the work he put into that room alone, he mentions it a few times. now hes drunk, has already shown it wont take much for him to throw a punch that night, so i really dont see an issue with mc skipping the dialog and just dropping bombs when he walks into his room and sees it being trashed.

as for the reasons you list for the fights mc does get into, 1 of the points i made is that the chick/dik system will change the mc's behaviour, dialog, everything. if taking the dik path (which is required to punch vinny), he gets further away from the code his dad gave him as the story progresses. ill use a couple of the examples you gave, but the way i see them. early on, he has an inner monolog about weather or not to fight the jocks(he didnt think he had to, it was a choice) but hes thinking about that code. later, theres no thought of code, and little to no dialog with caleb, just steps in there to scrap. and if youre a big enough dik, flips off the lot of them when he gets pulled off of caleb.

finally, we can discuss technique to death (in fact id welcome it, im not in the gym as much as i was in my younger years but still a huge fan, and most of my friends outside of the gym are not lol).
you make some valid observations for sure! but are overlooking a few things, a punch you dont see comming doesnt have to land at full power to knock someone out, in fact, clean shots in volume often beat an oponent thats loading up, and the way im reading that is like you expected the mc to throw 1 and done, instead of jumping on and letting the ground and pound fly. im going to stop there for the sake of others who may not want to see me drone on about fight technique, but welcome a DM chat about it.
 
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But Maya signed that loan because she thought her dad would support her
But now he is being an arsehole
How dare he treat her like that

Why does everyone have it out for her are they jealous of her good looks or something?

Jealous of his skin disease, no I don’t think so lol! :LOL: ;)
 
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the realization that we (myself included) are playing a game where most of the girls we meet instantly melt into a wet puddle at our feet.....
Hold on a sec, cause you're making like four mistakes here. Let's talk about the least well known first.

You're looking back on past events and letting it color the entire perspective. You're using Meta knowledge. Its like if you (lived under a rock your whole life) then watched say ....Rogue One. You might think, holy shit who is this Darth Vader guy? What is the deal with him? Did he just kill all those rebels in that hallway? How can he choke people with his mind? WTF!!!

But you don't. You already KNOW all those answers. And even though he doesn't do all that much in the film (you could.liyetslly cut out every one of his scenes) his scenes stand out because of your meta knowledge.

Similarly, yes. The MC is slaying right now. But keep in mind that wasn't always the case. Ep 1 he basically got bullied out of the school. No one wanted to fuck him (other than a long term mutual crush who ultimately didn't go all the way). The only other ass he got was from hookers or from a sexually frustrated girl who wanted to use him to make her bf jealous (more on this in a minute).

The problem is we have played all this now, we know he's going to get these girls. And he does, although it's worth pointing out, it happens over a long period of time. Josy and Maya don't properly fuck.you until season 2. Bella and the raccoon, not until ep 8. And there are plenty of off ramps for any of them. Be a Dik and lose the thouple. Say the wrong thing and lose the Jill, go after Cathy and.... You get it. Meanwhile, most of the other girls you fuck are literal hookers or strippers. That's not all that unrealistic.

Moving on to probably the most important point. The MC is popular and handsome and hung and if you've never lived or known what that's like, let me tell you it's basically being God. Dating IRL has a sort of hierarchy, not always, but often. it's pretty easy to get the group below you, not as easy for the group above you. Undesirable (unattractive or unappealing) men are at the bottom, followed by undesirable women, then desirable women. But at the top, is desirable men. Wealthy, handsome, successful men have their literal pick of any woman they want.

By the time we reach Ep 9 the MC is essentially the leader of a popular frat, known for being extremely charismatic and competent as well as 'generously endowed'... Guys, girls get horny too. They want to fuck. But while guys want to fuck all the girls, girls want to fuck the BEST guy. It may even be a largely biological component, women are forced to be sexually selective for reproduction, while men are encouraged to be sexually promiscuous, ie women can only carry one baby at a time, so it needs to be the BEST baby, men however have the best chance of producing a successful offspring by simply producing as many as possible.

In short, if a girl (especially a college girl) knows a guy is safe, successful and sexually desirable, he's basically already in, without doing much of any work.

Another thing to note is that girls really do do, what safe did. That isn't unrealistic. The unrealistic part is those girls who do it, are ALWAYS trash people. They're miserable jerks out to cause pain or drama. But hey, for some reason Sage isn't, so yah!

Finally, as I've said before there are plenty of girls who we don't fuck, some we might never like Jamie's girlfriend, others we have to work for like Heather, and others may simply not be interested, KRJ (though it breaks my heart to say it). This brings me to my final point.

The game, like all games, isn't meant to be realistic. It exists in a sort of hyper reality. If you e ever played Call of Duty, you know that being a soldier is fast paced action where you kill enemies by the skin of your teeth and just barely scrap by all the whole finding ways to creatively kill and smash your way through interesting locations. And if you r ever served in the military you know all of that is untrue.

War is boring. Then dangerous, then tedious, then boring again. No one would ever play a realistic war game, for the same reason no one plays a 'middle manager office worker' simulator.

Theres probably been plenty of near misses with girls or guys in your life, where things sparked and almost caught fire. Most of the time your life is probably pretty routine. But hat wouldn't make a good action game and it doesn't make a good AVN. Sure safe could say 'its just too complicated' after Chad dumps her, Bella could say 'irs not worth the risk to my job' and after the MC and Maya fool around a few times, she could say 'I'm actually NOT into guys after all'. And it would be very realistic. But it wouldn't be very fun.

Which is what suspension of disbelief is really all about. We know this isn't real life, but as long as the pacing is sane and the world rules make sense it still works. For the record I completely disagree with you. I think this is one of the few 'realistic' AVNs I've ever played. All the moments seem earned. the characters feel true and the scenes make sense. Go check out something like Homelander or WVM and there's where you see unrealistic. Girls don't just fuck you at first sight, they fall completely in love with you. All of them have the exact same personality (mindlessly in love with you, with zero agency or goals and this zero character arc as well as, if course completely supportive of the main character having a massive harem). It's pretty gross and takes you right out of things TBH.
 

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Hold on a sec, cause you're making like four mistakes here. Let's talk about the least well known first.

You're looking back on past events and letting it color the entire perspective. You're using Meta knowledge. Its like if you (lived under a rock your whole life) then watched say ....Rogue One. You might think, holy shit who is this Darth Vader guy? What is the deal with him? Did he just kill all those rebels in that hallway? How can he choke people with his mind? WTF!!!

But you don't. You already KNOW all those answers. And even though he doesn't do all that much in the film (you could.liyetslly cut out every one of his scenes) his scenes stand out because of your meta knowledge.

Similarly, yes. The MC is slaying right now. But keep in mind that wasn't always the case. Ep 1 he basically got bullied out of the school. No one wanted to fuck him (other than a long term mutual crush who ultimately didn't go all the way). The only other ass he got was from hookers or from a sexually frustrated girl who wanted to use him to make her bf jealous (more on this in a minute).

The problem is we have played all this now, we know he's going to get these girls. And he does, although it's worth pointing out, it happens over a long period of time. Josy and Maya don't properly fuck.you until season 2. Bella and the raccoon, not until ep 8. And there are plenty of off ramps for any of them. Be a Dik and lose the thouple. Say the wrong thing and lose the Jill, go after Cathy and.... You get it. Meanwhile, most of the other girls you fuck are literal hookers or strippers. That's not all that unrealistic.

Moving on to probably the most important point. The MC is popular and handsome and hung and if you've never lived or known what that's like, let me tell you it's basically being God. Dating IRL has a sort of hierarchy, not always, but often. it's pretty easy to get the group below you, not as easy for the group above you. Undesirable (unattractive or unappealing) men are at the bottom, followed by undesirable women, then desirable women. But at the top, is desirable men. Wealthy, handsome, successful men have their literal pick of any woman they want.

By the time we reach Ep 9 the MC is essentially the leader of a popular frat, known for being extremely charismatic and competent as well as 'generously endowed'... Guys, girls get horny too. They want to fuck. But while guys want to fuck all the girls, girls want to fuck the BEST guy. It may even be a largely biological component, women are forced to be sexually selective for reproduction, while men are encouraged to be sexually promiscuous, ie women can only carry one baby at a time, so it needs to be the BEST baby, men however have the best chance of producing a successful offspring by simply producing as many as possible.

In short, if a girl (especially a college girl) knows a guy is safe, successful and sexually desirable, he's basically already in, without doing much of any work.

Another thing to note is that girls really do do, what safe did. That isn't unrealistic. The unrealistic part is those girls who do it, are ALWAYS trash people. They're miserable jerks out to cause pain or drama. But hey, for some reason Sage isn't, so yah!

Finally, as I've said before there are plenty of girls who we don't fuck, some we might never like Jamie's girlfriend, others we have to work for like Heather, and others may simply not be interested, KRJ (though it breaks my heart to say it). This brings me to my final point.

The game, like all games, isn't meant to be realistic. It exists in a sort of hyper reality. If you e ever played Call of Duty, you know that being a soldier is fast paced action where you kill enemies by the skin of your teeth and just barely scrap by all the whole finding ways to creatively kill and smash your way through interesting locations. And if you r ever served in the military you know all of that is untrue.

War is boring. Then dangerous, then tedious, then boring again. No one would ever play a realistic war game, for the same reason no one plays a 'middle manager office worker' simulator.

Theres probably been plenty of near misses with girls or guys in your life, where things sparked and almost caught fire. Most of the time your life is probably pretty routine. But hat wouldn't make a good action game and it doesn't make a good AVN. Sure safe could say 'its just too complicated' after Chad dumps her, Bella could say 'irs not worth the risk to my job' and after the MC and Maya fool around a few times, she could say 'I'm actually NOT into guys after all'. And it would be very realistic. But it wouldn't be very fun.

Which is what suspension of disbelief is really all about. We know this isn't real life, but as long as the pacing is sane and the world rules make sense it still works. For the record I completely disagree with you. I think this is one of the few 'realistic' AVNs I've ever played. All the moments seem earned. the characters feel true and the scenes make sense. Go check out something like Homelander or WVM and there's where you see unrealistic. Girls don't just fuck you at first sight, they fall completely in love with you. All of them have the exact same personality (mindlessly in love with you, with zero agency or goals and this zero character arc as well as, if course completely supportive of the main character having a massive harem). It's pretty gross and takes you right out of things TBH.
no, this isnt so far out of the realm of reality that i cant enjoy it, nor did i say that a good avn must be factual. i didnt state the comment in a way that excluded myself from it either. it was an observation that i found amusing. agree or not, thats the end of that part. sorry if you were expecting more to that rebuttal. what i will say is that you appear to be basing your timeline on seasons/episodes. but i sincerely hope that you realize much of the game takes place in the first few weeks! and is around 2 months into the timeline as a whole.
 
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Hold on a sec, cause you're making like four mistakes here. Let's talk about the least well known first.

You're looking back on past events and letting it color the entire perspective. You're using Meta knowledge. Its like if you (lived under a rock your whole life) then watched say ....Rogue One. You might think, holy shit who is this Darth Vader guy? What is the deal with him? Did he just kill all those rebels in that hallway? How can he choke people with his mind? WTF!!!

But you don't. You already KNOW all those answers. And even though he doesn't do all that much in the film (you could.liyetslly cut out every one of his scenes) his scenes stand out because of your meta knowledge.

Similarly, yes. The MC is slaying right now. But keep in mind that wasn't always the case. Ep 1 he basically got bullied out of the school. No one wanted to fuck him (other than a long term mutual crush who ultimately didn't go all the way). The only other ass he got was from hookers or from a sexually frustrated girl who wanted to use him to make her bf jealous (more on this in a minute).

The problem is we have played all this now, we know he's going to get these girls. And he does, although it's worth pointing out, it happens over a long period of time. Josy and Maya don't properly fuck.you until season 2. Bella and the raccoon, not until ep 8. And there are plenty of off ramps for any of them. Be a Dik and lose the thouple. Say the wrong thing and lose the Jill, go after Cathy and.... You get it. Meanwhile, most of the other girls you fuck are literal hookers or strippers. That's not all that unrealistic.

Moving on to probably the most important point. The MC is popular and handsome and hung and if you've never lived or known what that's like, let me tell you it's basically being God. Dating IRL has a sort of hierarchy, not always, but often. it's pretty easy to get the group below you, not as easy for the group above you. Undesirable (unattractive or unappealing) men are at the bottom, followed by undesirable women, then desirable women. But at the top, is desirable men. Wealthy, handsome, successful men have their literal pick of any woman they want.

By the time we reach Ep 9 the MC is essentially the leader of a popular frat, known for being extremely charismatic and competent as well as 'generously endowed'... Guys, girls get horny too. They want to fuck. But while guys want to fuck all the girls, girls want to fuck the BEST guy. It may even be a largely biological component, women are forced to be sexually selective for reproduction, while men are encouraged to be sexually promiscuous, ie women can only carry one baby at a time, so it needs to be the BEST baby, men however have the best chance of producing a successful offspring by simply producing as many as possible.

In short, if a girl (especially a college girl) knows a guy is safe, successful and sexually desirable, he's basically already in, without doing much of any work.

Another thing to note is that girls really do do, what safe did. That isn't unrealistic. The unrealistic part is those girls who do it, are ALWAYS trash people. They're miserable jerks out to cause pain or drama. But hey, for some reason Sage isn't, so yah!

Finally, as I've said before there are plenty of girls who we don't fuck, some we might never like Jamie's girlfriend, others we have to work for like Heather, and others may simply not be interested, KRJ (though it breaks my heart to say it). This brings me to my final point.

The game, like all games, isn't meant to be realistic. It exists in a sort of hyper reality. If you e ever played Call of Duty, you know that being a soldier is fast paced action where you kill enemies by the skin of your teeth and just barely scrap by all the whole finding ways to creatively kill and smash your way through interesting locations. And if you r ever served in the military you know all of that is untrue.

War is boring. Then dangerous, then tedious, then boring again. No one would ever play a realistic war game, for the same reason no one plays a 'middle manager office worker' simulator.

Theres probably been plenty of near misses with girls or guys in your life, where things sparked and almost caught fire. Most of the time your life is probably pretty routine. But hat wouldn't make a good action game and it doesn't make a good AVN. Sure safe could say 'its just too complicated' after Chad dumps her, Bella could say 'irs not worth the risk to my job' and after the MC and Maya fool around a few times, she could say 'I'm actually NOT into guys after all'. And it would be very realistic. But it wouldn't be very fun.

Which is what suspension of disbelief is really all about. We know this isn't real life, but as long as the pacing is sane and the world rules make sense it still works. For the record I completely disagree with you. I think this is one of the few 'realistic' AVNs I've ever played. All the moments seem earned. the characters feel true and the scenes make sense. Go check out something like Homelander or WVM and there's where you see unrealistic. Girls don't just fuck you at first sight, they fall completely in love with you. All of them have the exact same personality (mindlessly in love with you, with zero agency or goals and this zero character arc as well as, if course completely supportive of the main character having a massive harem). It's pretty gross and takes you right out of things TBH.
no, this isnt so far out of the realm of reality that i cant enjoy it, nore did i say that a good avn must be factual. i didnt state the comment in a way that excluded myself from it either. it was an observation that i found amusing. agree or not, thats the end of that part. sorry if you were expecting more to that rebuttle. what i will say is that you appear to be basing your timeline on seasons/episodes. but i sincerely hope that you realize much of the game takes place in the first week! and is around 2 months into the timeline as a whole.
On the subject of timelines, here is a very good timeline outline shown through to the end of episode 8:

 
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