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I think if you're using her services in the restaurant she still can ask for MC to help her with her stalker in ep. 7
No, no... I expressed myself poorly I think. In Ep.9 you can console Riona, but you need to have a 'friendship with her' at the very least - if you are on a route other than 'Others'.

For the player to achieve this 'friendship', I believe that some variables are necessary, such as, for example, talking about Cathy's incident in Ep.4.

However, when talking to her about it, Riona steals a kiss from the MC and the only option given is to scold her or kiss her back. That's why I considered Riona's kiss in Ep.4 as forced.
 

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So if you're a DIK basically, I thought I remembered being able to mostly avoid Jill as a DIK but I haven't played through the whole game in quite a while.
Yeah she is waay friendly when you are DIK but not touchy girlfriend thing but talk etc... i tried to be DIK on her path (i used URM) so if you are on her path after helping her with Tybalt and don't get reject be NETURAL or CHICK not DIK
she will reject you on the spot double reject you and Tybalt but if you are not DIK then switch on early ep9 to DIK go with another girl for example Sage (she is DIK path)
when you talk to her she will say yeah i think we should be friends i also don't see you as boyfriend and she smile and all that like its fine no problem i know we ain't for each other ( i cracked so hard i did every variable for her then switch just for DIK she just said nope cant have it fuck you but we are friends)
 

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Riona in ep 4 is optional as far as i remember. You need choose discuss the cluck with her when talk to her in the party.
Man, I really hate it when Riona forces her kisses on me. Almost as much as when she throws me on the bed, tears my clothes off and makes me have sex with her over and over again.

True torture. Good thing I'm such a masochist when it comes to Rio.
 

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Jokes aside, it's doable, 29 beers per day isn't much more than a slab (24 stubbies/cans) which gets knocked off regularly by anyone seriously on it. It'd certainly make Hell Week an actual challenge.
you will be hammerd all day and sheesh 29 a day? are you good my dude? no way man
 

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Yeah... The second time it was Bella who 'pulled' the MC closer to her, even the MC mentions that it is Bella who is moving him towards her.
Not really, the second time it was Bella who started it wasn't it? :unsure:
Then the whole crying thing happened...
no, no, no.
the initiative is always MC's, with Bella verbally pushing him away but actually physically embracing him, which is basically the same thing that happens with drunken kissing
 

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no, no, no.
the initiative is always MC's, with Bella verbally pushing him away but actually physically embracing him, which is basically the same thing that happens with drunken kissing
The only thing I don't like about Bella's route is that the MC has to make some pretty heavy sexual advances on Bella until Bella's blowjob scene happens. The sauna scene is a classic example where Bella and the MC shared a romantic moment more at the MC's insistence than at Bella's will. In all the interactions Bella wanted, it wasn't rape. But until Bella gets into the mood, the scenes get a little strange. I remember Steve saying to Josy: "You want this, you just don't know it yet."... Kinda weird.
 

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Lol google 'Boonies record' for a classic example of an Aussie power drinking sesh. 52 beers flying from Oz to England, which is roughly a 20 hour trip.
Yeah but some people are built different like derek he could be hammerd all day wake up like it was nothing
ma man try fanny bullets ( i think thats how it said)
he wants to get drunk from his butt
so i don't doubt some where in this world like derek or breaking world record for drinking
but average person too much i think
 

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The only thing I don't like about Bella's route is that the MC has to make some pretty heavy sexual advances on Bella until Bella's blowjob scene happens. The sauna scene is a classic example where Bella and the MC shared a romantic moment more at the MC's insistence than at Bella's will. In all the interactions Bella wanted, it wasn't rape. But until Bella gets into the mood, the scenes get a little strange. I remember Steve saying to Josy: "You want this, you just don't know it yet."... Kinda weird.
Bella's story gets fixed by the fourth chapter if we decide to go to her, without that step it remains rather cringe-worthy. all in all that part manages to give order to the whole thing. otherwise it's all in all the story of a boy who finds out that one of his teachers is a nymphomaniac and decides to take advantage of her at every opportunity

apart from the sauna scene, the choices that carry on the story with her are not explicit unlike those with the other LIs, something strange always happens that we have no control over.
 

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no, no, no.
the initiative is always MC's, with Bella verbally pushing him away but actually physically embracing him, which is basically the same thing that happens with drunken kissing
I went and checked, all MC does is caress Bella's face, she could shove his hand away, she could have left, instead she grabs him and kisses him, sure she says she "doesn't" want it but what the fuck should MC do?
And before this she was sulking and internally ranting because she was conflicted about setting MC with Jill due to her feelings for him, her marriage and whatever else.
Both of them are a bit to blame, sure, but Bella is way more at fault than MC for what happened in the library.
 

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Bella's story gets fixed by the fourth chapter if we decide to go to her, without that step it remains rather cringe-worthy. all in all that part manages to give order to the whole thing. otherwise it's all in all the story of a boy who finds out that one of his teachers is a nymphomaniac and decides to take advantage of her at every opportunity

apart from the sauna scene, the choices that carry on the story with her are not explicit unlike those with the other LIs, something strange always happens that we have no control over.
Yes, being with Bella in Ep.4 is a MUST. Otherwise, the relationship is just bizarre. I saw that there is a possibility that Bella's path only starts in Ep.6, which is when she offers help and the player can choose whether to help her or not. In this scenario where she didn't change her opinion about the MC and didn't even let the MC live with her for a few days in Ep.4 she just seems to be a horny teacher after a college boy.
 

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I went and checked, all MC does is caress Bella's face, she could shove his hand away, she could have left, instead she grabs him and kisses him, sure she says she "doesn't" want it but what the fuck should MC do?
And before this she was sulking and internally ranting because she was conflicted about setting MC with Jill due to her feelings for him, her marriage and whatever else.
Both of them are a bit to blame, sure, but Bella is way more at fault than MC for what happened in the library.
it meant to be for sake of xmas event to happened that kiss was something for build up
i said it before Bella route is somehow forced for you in some way she could reject you if you fuck cathy but later in xmas something happened and you needed there for her and that kiss in library was something he even said
"if i know why she cried that day i wouldn't have kissed her"
 

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I went and checked, all MC does is caress Bella's face, she could shove his hand away, she could have left, instead she grabs him and kisses him, sure she says she "doesn't" want it but what the fuck should MC do?
And before this she was sulking and internally ranting because she was conflicted about setting MC with Jill due to her feelings for him, her marriage and whatever else.
Both of them are a bit to blame, sure, but Bella is way more at fault than MC for what happened in the library.
it all starts with MC taking the initiative, certainly not encouraged by Bella's words

the only thoughts (sulking) we read are MC's.

we don't see it whether Bella kisses first or MC: MC wants to kiss her, Bella hugs him while she reminds him that she is married and then they kiss

only MC presses Bella, who capitulates without much effort
 

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I went and checked, all MC does is caress Bella's face, she could shove his hand away, she could have left, instead she grabs him and kisses him, sure she says she "doesn't" want it but what the fuck should MC do?
And before this she was sulking and internally ranting because she was conflicted about setting MC with Jill due to her feelings for him, her marriage and whatever else.
Both of them are a bit to blame, sure, but Bella is way more at fault than MC for what happened in the library.
Since you are a Bella expert, could you explain to me why Bella was so angry in Ep.3? I never understood that scene. Another scene that I also didn't understand is the one where Bella is facing the library door and Eugene appears... was she waiting for the MC or for Jill?
 
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it all starts with MC taking the initiative, certainly not encouraged by Bella's words

the only thoughts (sulking) we read are MC's.

we don't see it whether Bella kisses first or MC: MC wants to kiss her, Bella hugs him while she reminds him that she is married and then they kiss

only MC presses Bella, who capitulates without much effort
Dude, he literally says she's the one pulling.
Imagine a scenario where you touch my face, I pull you in, punch you and then say you're the one at fault because you initiated it :HideThePain:
I know it's a stupid and hyperbolic example but I make my point.

Now, when they're on the ground, she tells him "she can't" but he insists, that's different, that's MC's fault for sure and he should've stopped, but he's still not to blame for starting the whole making out thing imo.
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Since you are a Bella expert, could you explain to me why Bella was so angry in Ep.3? I never understood that scene. Another scene that I also didn't understand is the one where Bella is facing the library door and Eugene appears... was she waiting for the MC or for Jill?
Angry when? When she lashes out at the students?
She was frustrated I think, she couldn't stop thinking about MC and was frustrated that she couldn't stop.
That contradiction shows up again right after when she pulls MC in for a kiss, she thinks she shouldn't, but can't help herself.

That whole paradoxical and internal conflict of hers is basically her whole story until EP7 when she finally decides to date and take the ring off.
 

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Dude, he literally says she's the one pulling.
Imagine a scenario where you touch my face, I pull you in, punch you and then say you're the one at fault because you initiated it :HideThePain:
I know it's a stupid and hyperbolic example but I make my point.

Now, when they're on the ground, she tells him "she can't" but he insists, that's different, that's MC's fault for sure and he should've stopped, but he's still not to blame for starting the whole making out thing imo.
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Angry when? When she lashes out at the students?
She was frustrated I think, she couldn't stop thinking about MC and was frustrated that she couldn't stop.
That contradiction shows up again right after when she pulls MC in for a kiss, she thinks she shouldn't, but can't help herself.

That whole paradoxical and internal conflict of hers is basically her whole story until EP7 when she finally decides to date and take the ring off.
Yes, I was referring to her being angry enough to not wave her hand back at the MC when he waves his hand at her and when she yells at Magnar and tells everyone, including Jill and the MC, to leave from the library. That's why I was confused, she had kicked MC and Jill out of the library earlier, so why did she think MC would go back there? What you said makes sense, about her being angry out of frustration. I imagined that she had advised Jill to give MC a chance, but she regretted it immediately and didn't know what to do.
 
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