DanMotta

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I'm curious, why do so many people hate free roams? I find them pretty good, because you get to chat with a lot of different people so it feels good to get to know everyone a bit better and you have a mix of funny, serious and flirty convos.
I did enjoy this episode a lot more than ep9. It felt quite minigame heavy though, but I hope that means DPC is mostly done with making minigames and can focus on story and the rest and maybe episodes could possibly release faster, even though I'm doubtful about that.
in my special case is because I play VNs for the story content. I don't even mind the free roams per se, but when you add it to a bunch of minigames, it becomes tiring for someone who is only interested in the story progression And don't wanna to be clicking a lot of arrows to go here and there. And now DPC is using hyper high quality stuff, in a VN. I am playing it in a laptop, sometimes the arrows don't even appear, because his game is bad
I thought it was Quinn based on how she stormed out of the principal’s office. Maybe not idk.
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amatpidot

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Must be the built-in anti-noobs minigame :WeSmart:

Just kidding. There are some known issues (some of which are purposely implemented features) which have been discussed in this thread.

Without the traceback file nobody can guess what your problem is.
wait yah. installing new downloaded version

I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
File "renpy/common/00action_file.rpy", line 462, in __call__
renpy.load(fn)
AttributeError: 'StoreModule' object has no attribute 'O000O00O000OOO0O0'

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
File "renpy/common/_layout/screen_main_menu.rpym", line 28, in script
python hide:
File "renpy/ast.py", line 928, in execute
renpy.python.py_exec_bytecode(self.code.bytecode, self.hide, store=self.store)
File "renpy/python.py", line 2245, in py_exec_bytecode
exec(bytecode, globals, locals)
File "renpy/common/_layout/screen_main_menu.rpym", line 28, in <module>
python hide:
File "renpy/common/_layout/screen_main_menu.rpym", line 35, in _execute_python_hide
ui.interact()
File "renpy/ui.py", line 298, in interact
rv = renpy.game.interface.interact(roll_forward=roll_forward, **kwargs)
File "renpy/display/core.py", line 3315, in interact
repeat, rv = self.interact_core(preloads=preloads, trans_pause=trans_pause, pause=pause, pause_start=pause_start, **kwargs)
File "renpy/display/core.py", line 4155, in interact_core
rv = root_widget.event(ev, x, y, 0)
File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 1100, in event
rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
File "renpy/display/transition.py", line 48, in event
return self.new_widget.event(ev, x, y, st) # E1101
File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 1100, in event
rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 1100, in event
rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
File "renpy/display/screen.py", line 727, in event
rv = self.child.event(ev, x, y, st)
File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 1100, in event
rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 1313, in event
rv = super(Window, self).event(ev, x, y, st)
File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 273, in event
rv = d.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, st)
File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 1100, in event
rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 1313, in event
rv = super(Window, self).event(ev, x, y, st)
File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 273, in event
rv = d.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, st)
File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 1100, in event
rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 273, in event
rv = d.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, st)
File "renpy/display/behavior.py", line 979, in event
return handle_click(self.clicked)
File "renpy/display/behavior.py", line 914, in handle_click
rv = run(action)
File "renpy/display/behavior.py", line 322, in run
new_rv = run(i, *args, **kwargs)
File "renpy/display/behavior.py", line 329, in run
return action(*args, **kwargs)
File "renpy/common/00action_file.rpy", line 462, in __call__
renpy.load(fn)
File "renpy/loadsave.py", line 770, in load
roots, log = loads(location.load(filename))
File "renpy/loadsave.py", line 63, in loads
return cPickle.loads(s)
AttributeError: 'StoreModule' object has no attribute 'O000O00O000OOO0O0'

Windows-10-10.0.19041
Ren'Py 7.4.10.2178
Being a DIK 0.10.0
Sun Dec 10 00:59:42 2023
 
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jd8097619

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I can't find such a picture in any of the rooms with stairs.

Could you share a screenshot?
At the start of the free roam it's the picture of the cross right above the little trolley thing. It only became clickable for me after examining the trolley itself.
 
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iggy.

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Geez, this thread is a mess. Personally, while I didn't like this game much last time I've played (nothing against it, I just didn't think it was anything special), I was still curious as to why all this ruckus around the forums, to see if it is worth playing it again or not.

Yet, instead of people discussing the game and the latest release, I just see banter between fanboys and haters... I mean, sure, anyone can be passionate, I also have my favorite games, but to the point of not even seeing discussion about the game... This isn't even beneficial to the dev himself.

I understand this game is pretty popular, and I also know that not all fans see themselves on the posts above, but would be nice to have a discussion about the game to encourage others (like myself) play the game. Maybe a lot of stuff changed since last time I've played, who knows.

To the ones that are actually talking about the game, is there anything different that I can expect if I try this game again? Thanks in advance.
There is actually a lot of us who love the game, and spend time discussing and bantering/shitposting - the thing is what most of us did is we downloaded and now almost everyone is radio silent, people are playing and this thread becomes very very toxic for about week after release, you said it yourself.

Now to answer your question, it depends when was the last time you played ? We have passed halfway point, and story is moving forward at a much faster pace then before (at least in episode 10 - we got answer to some burning question, and certain storylines are resolved).

There is a LOT of branching, and I really mean that - certain scenes have 2/3 even 4 different variations depending on choices we made in the past. Story is different if you choose to be college fuckboy, heartbreaker/casanova or nice guy .

If you start from the very beginning without using skip button, I would say it's going to take you about 30-40 hours to reach the end of episode 10, of course it depends how fast you read, and if you turn minigames on or off.
 
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Simpgor

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in my special case is because I play VNs for the story content. I don't even mind the free roams per se, but when you add it to a bunch of minigames, it becomes tiring for someone who is only interested in the story progression
im also a story first freak and I think another thing worth pointing out is that this game is designed to played though multiple times unless you just have a single girl in mind and are following a guide and even with strategic saving you will be repeating sandbox sections multiple times every update, and then heaven forbid your save gets broken (either by dpc or you) and then you are looking at about a dozen? forced sandbox sections....
 

DarkFernando

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Hi everyone! :alien: Hope you all are good!

Came back for a replay because new update, wanted to ask if this version is stable to start new rerun or better wait a little more for an patch update.



P.S: Long Live The Quinn.
 
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Impurity2937

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Hi everyone! :alien: Hope you are all good!

Came back for a replay because new update, wanted to ask if this version is stable to start new rerun or better wait a little more for an patch update.



P.S: Long Live The Quinn.
99,9% complains if not 100% so far are from people who were using mods in their saves and this causes problems for some. I'm one of them but Scrappy released fix and everything runs without problems, people are either too dumb to copy one file in right place or... nah, I guess that's the only option :coffee:
 
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titom32

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I am having a loop problem right after the scene where the girls are drinking in party. Basically after Maya says ''lets do shots'' the game returns to the scene where Jill greets Isabella in the party, and then they start to talk again....
I have the same issue....
 

DanMotta

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Dunno what you've done in your save but if you pick everything with Josy after that split she will show pics in EP10 on her phone and will tell him that she still have feelings for him. You will have a choice on others path "you have feelings for her"/ "and you're over her". No such a choice on any other of LI paths
yes after the split, I told derek I still had feelings for her, I also told her I think about her all the time on ep9 and on ep10 she shows him the pictures. And I got this choice. I chose to tell her "I still have feelings for her" after she tells me she is still crushing on him. I didn't know it was choice for the others's path only, I thought, eventually, every path would get that choice as long as they kept the flame alive between them, but that is good to know. It means I made the right choice when i chose my main path lol.
 

Ottoeight

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Hi everyone! :alien: Hope you all are good!

Came back for a replay because new update, wanted to ask if this version is stable to start new rerun or better wait a little more for an patch update.



P.S: Long Live The Quinn.
It depends on whether you play with mods/edited saves or not. If the answer is no, go for it.
 
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DanMotta

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im also a story first freak and I think another thing worth pointing out is that this game is designed to played though multiple times unless you just have a single girl in mind and are following a guide and even with strategic saving you will be repeating sandbox sections multiple times every update, and then heaven forbid your save gets broken (either by dpc or you) and then you are looking at about a dozen? forced sandbox sections....
True, I used to play this game on all routes, because I wanted to read the whole story content of the game. But with the last updates, more focused on free roams and minigames that keeps getting complex and you now have 10 tutorials to read on every new update, I only focus on the route I like the most. Once I get to know everything that there is to know about this route, I don't play it anymore and I use galery unlocker to unlock the whole rewards/scenes content.
 

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There is actually a lot of us who love the game, and spend time discussing and bantering/shitposting - the thing is what most of us did is we downloaded and now almost everyone is radio silent, people are playing and this thread becomes very very toxic for about week after release, you said it yourself.

Now to answer your question, it depends when was the last time you played ? We have passed halfway point, and story is moving forward at a much faster pace then before (at least in episode 10 - we got answer to some burning question, and certain storylines are resolved).

There is a LOT of branching, and I really mean that - certain scenes have 2/3 even 4 different variations depending on choices we made in the past. Story is different if you choose to be college fuckboy, heartbreaker/casanova or nice guy .

If you start from the very beginning without using skip button, I would say it's going to take you about 30-40 hours to reach the end of episode 10, of course it depends how fast you read, and if you turn minigames on or off.
I understand that, the thing is that people around the forums said the last release was a disapointment, while others said it was good, there's no middle in between.

I've played this for like 3 years ago probably, so maybe if I buy time I give this another chance. Anyway ty for answer.
 

RandomBloke

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Anyone have issues opening on Mac? I did the steps like I did with the last episode but this one still doesn’t open saying may be damage or incomplete after doing the terminal. Any help, thanks!
I'm having the same problem. Normally I can just open the Mac version and play right away. Never had to use terminal before. Tried it without success.
 

mutad

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Man...:cry:

My respect for Patrick shot through the roof. Never judge a character without knowing them and their motives. I can't believe that a fictional character made me this emotional. He became a personal inspiration. i hope he gets a happy ending... Please let him have one :HideThePain:. I'm not the biggest maya fan but i'll dedicate a playthrough for her just so that i can follow patricks story.
 

jd8097619

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Thoughts on Ep 10:
- Overall really enjoyed the focus back on the plot after Ep9's focus on a single party. Pretty clear at this point that the tease at the start of Ep9 is for Ep11 if not Ep12 end of season.
- Really enjoyed the character development, Nicole in particular is still the stand out in many regards in my opinion.
- Feels like it's a big set up for a "house of cards" scenario that comes crashing down, given the sudden focus on Riona and DPCs tendency for soap opera writing I can see her being killed or at least seriously injured as the catalyst for it all coming down with Tommy, Quinn, and Stephen being the main causes of everything that's been built up (drugs, prostitution, the "walk of shame" stuff).
- new minigames... they're solid but I really don't see the point of them quite honestly. The fish one in particular seems to be little more than a way to dump money because there's nothing else to spend it on at this point.
- On the 60fps animations, someone's going to gif the Quinn slow clap as a mocking and I wouldn't disagree with it quite honestly. Makes absolutely no fucking difference to anything.
 

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So, i threw DPC 10 bucks, but didnt wait any longer to download it... i had the time now, why wait until 11 december? Screw that. He got the money.

I played 3 playthroughs for now, all chick playthroughs, J&M, Jill and "others" on chick with focus on Nicole, Rio and Josy.

Lets start with negatives so i can end it with positives.

The animations. About 80% felt totally unnecessary and pointless, more that 80% will never see the aniumations again in any playthrough cause they will skip it. And i didnt notice any difference between 60 FPS or 30, which is no surprise, cause there is none if its not an entire game in motion. You cant notice it in 1 second loops, its ridiculous. But it takes double the time to render them... ugh... and than, woah, how many unnecessary antimation were there? I cant even start to make a list, it wouldnt end. And no iam not one of the guys who think "hey, only animate lewd content" not at all... but man... make them for content that matters and you will see again and again and that adds really something to the game. A Zoey running through the woods, or some stupid zombies in a arcade game which you ONLY can see if you go with rio... wtf is that? And for those things we had to wait about additional 3 months? Oh my. And is it only me or are the lewd animations kinda short? Looking back some scenes out of episode 7 and 8... they felt longer? But nevermind... point is... 60 fps is a waste of time and resources. Nothing more. And most of the animations in the game were too... but yeah... mainthing... some dude we dont even know makes some kickboxing moves in a minigame, or the fish is moving... argh.

Next, the minigames. Overall, mostly i like minigames in being a dik. many of them were able to create some "depth" to it, and are fun. But not every single one of them... the class minigames were always boring, good there is a walkthrough, so repeating them is just copy and paste. triple tile is shit, always will be, but well... for the 1$ its quick done in easy mode if its gets annoying. The brwaler game is ok for a while, but a rework was in dire need... and i am gald he did, but well... he went a little overboard, i mean... the brawler game would have been that good to without a single animation in it? But it felt like about 50% of all the animations in the game went into brawler... ugh.

So if i like many minigames, whats the negative about it? In this episode we got just way to many new ones. And many complex mingames too. And DPC is not the kind of DEV who introduce minigames and will stick to them for a long while (except shuffle maybe) Most of the minigames during the 10 episodes including interlude are a one time thing or are used in about 3 episode tops. So he is developing something like the fishies, and those will never been seen again after episode 11 or 12 maybe. Feels like a waste of time. Once i thaught that the mansion mini game will have some influence or something like that along the road... we kinda developed the DIKs there so they are able to get some things done, but... yeah... the mansion got repaired, everything regarding the minigame is pointless after, even the more than 60$ i got everytime after is just gone. So whats the point? And that thaught is running through my head for every single minigame in episode 10... whats the point, will we see it ever again? I whish DPC would create minigames which will stick with us until the game as a whole will be complete, but i call it now and here, the only one will be shuffle that will make it until the end. So much effort goes into those minigames... for... yeah not nothing, but not that much either.

Buuuuuuut... thats about it with the negatives.

Which leads me to the positives. He added many nice little features, to the phone, and some other menu in it as well. They dont seem to make such a big impact, but they are really nice.

New music tracks are good too, i didnt really missed the ones that were gone. And like all the episodes before, the music is always spot on and fitting the scenes perfectly... which is maybe the only game around here where this is the case all the time. And there were a lot of sounds here and there too, which added a lot to the scenes... its amazing how sound can add so much more to a scene than a animation, DPC should consider to do more sound than animations in the future... its less time and resource consuming as well.

The renders are again a little better, higher scaled, more details and such. He is improving with every episode in that regard, i like that a lot. Well besides some hair choices here and there i guess, especially mayas longer hair or the stubble for MC... those were... not good, the stubble for MC is gone already, hopefully Mayas hair will go back like it was. For Josys hairstyle, its just nice too see that she gets different styles along a episode... sometimes they look silly,sometimes mature, sometimes hot, but thats josy for you... but no matter waht, she looks always cute. But its clear that DPC will never stick to one hairchoice for her, but iam afraid DPC is searching for something permanent for maya, and the actual choice is... bad. But thats my taste.

Storywise... FINALLY its being a dik again. Plotwise a lot of progress, a lot of NEW things, not so much closure for open questions though. But thats okay... what is not okay is standing still, which episode 9 did. Episode 10 has a lot going on in pretty much every scene. And thats how the best episodes of being a dik are. Especially Hell Week, episode 7 and 8 are in my rankings very high cause there is so much going on. And Episode 10 is in those ranks too.

It was about time to learn more about many characters, of course most about Maya an Derek, i didnt played every route so far, as i mentioned before... so Bella, Sage, Quinn and some others are yet to be discovered. But those things i learned about Jill, Derek and Maya are worth it alone to play Episode 10. And with the different scenes and paths, the episode feels WAY LONGER than episode 9 too. I took me a lot of more time to get one playthrough done and the others too... in ep 9 there werent that many differeneces, every thing was pretty much the same, cause it was just one big free roam. Episodes 10 goes back to the roots like the game was... some free roams, but many many scenes that are related to a perticular branch which is awesome and which makes Being a Dik so special compared to other AVNs around here. It wasnt really worth it to play episode 9 over and over again... with episode 10 its finally worth it again. To me DPC made up for the interlude and dissapointing episode 9 with the new one... well... IF it wouldnt have taken 12 months for the release that is.

Derek is the star of this episode and finally got the much deserved attention he needed. Of course it was always clear that he is a major character with far more to it than to be a goofy idiot. But it was about time to show it as a whole. And iam VERY VERY curious how the plot about mayas contract will go... cause... well... you can fail too. Which was a surprise. Will be interesting to watch how that will go.

And yeah, many many new little plots were opened and questions will be asked.

But we got closure here and there too i would say. Tybalt is pretty much closed i would say. And it was about time... he was one of the main antagonists in season 1 and 2. But enough is enough, and i dont see that much potential in him anymore with Vinny, Stephen and some others stepping in the spotlight. The thing with Jill is done once and for all, so... yeah, time to step back for him. Everything that happend with and too him is now "solved" Jill knows everything and thats it.

If you choose to go for a real relationship with somebody there are some things closed as well, or at least it felt like that. Like the Josy feelings-route for example. I played my Jill playthrough with still having feelings for Josy, and yeah... MC pretty much closed the door in the "pillow fort" its not "sealed" i guess, but if you are NOT on the others path, i get the feeling, there will be no Josy solo or cheating route with her down the road. And i makes sense too. Of course... on the others path, the Josy solo route pretty much started now. ON my others playthrough with feelings for her it was just one step away to destroy that pillow fort with a fuck. It will happen soon, i guess in episode 11 already... well that is, if DPC doesnt decide to make one episode out of one day alone again like he did with ep9. Thanksgiving is not done... which felt kinda strange btw. I was 100% sure that we will have a dinner with Neil and MCs girlfriend/s, but well... Neils onion Ninjas and that he will adopt MCs girlfriend pretty much on the doorstep will have to wait a little until ep 11 is out :) There is no tension or anything in that regard, everybody knows that Neil will just adore the fuck out of every girl MC brings home, so no problem that this is not in ep 10.

And Zoey got a little closure too if you are in a serious relationship. MC told her about his feelings (which is partly a closure too, cause finally we know for sure that he loved her) but pretty much closed the door to if he is in a serious relationship, and Zoey realises that too if she sees him with a girl that she lost him cause she couldnt wait some months until graduation... yep Zoey, you are a stupid girl for that.

That she runs away from the party even on the others route felt kinda off to me, why? Cause she realised that she has broken MCs heart? Well, yeah, but on the others path the door is still very much open. At least in my others-playthrough. So it felt off, instead i was pretty sure we will get more "bonding" time with her. Not that iam very interested in that, i dont like Zoey that much, but i want to see everything from the game. I was afraid Zoey will force drama on the relationship of the MC, but its not the case, thanks for that.

Than there were some questions answered or reopend i would say... i always thaught that not the tri-alphas thrashed the mansion. But it guess its pretty clear that hey did it, or better said... dawe send Caleb to do it. Kinda a cheap solution... but well. Iam okay with that.

Nothing new on the camera front, but i was a little surprised that there was only that one camera in dereks closet, of course it was there way before MC and Derek got to the diks (see the picture from jacob and arieth)... but yeah its weird. Dont know what to think of that anymore. Maybe it was forgotten? Maybe there were more cameras in the house and who ever installed them forgot the one in the closet? Otherwise i dont know why you would install on camera in that closet only... its weird.

Nick fucked Heather, no surprise here. Well besides... why did Heather choose nick? Lets face it... he is a snitch and not very interesting character, dear Heather... why nick if you could have been with funny Leon? Well maybe... cause Nick is the only one who would betray a DIK-brother like that, Leon wouldnt do it i guess. I dont trust him one bit, never did, never will... he was or is friends with Vinny, no way a good "brother" would be friend with someone like him. Not even Tommy is. I really hope someday Nick will be thrown out from the DIKs, he doesnt add anything of value to the frat, is only tagging along and yeah... he cant be trusted.

Than DPC decided to add the "DIK Poster-Plot" i dont know why though... didnt felt like it is need. And in the very same episode where this plot started, it is revealed that Beth put those posters up... first i was kinda stuck "hä? Who is that" and than i looked in the bios and saw... its the cafeteria girl. Ah... come on DPC... not every character in the game needs a plot. That wasnt necessary. My guess, she tried desperatly to bang a DIK and didnt made it... she was pretty much at every party from the start of the game, but never really mentioned. So i guess her thinking is "well, you dont notice and fuck me? So i fuck with you DIKs" *shrugs* doesnt make her any more interesting. She is just the cafetria girl and could have very well be that until the game is complete.

Cathy showed up. Kinda sudden... and yeah... dont know, that scene felt really odd. I mean... "Hey Cathy" *hug* "wanna come with home?" "sure" "youre still tempting" *fuck* "bye" ........ Whatever. The fuck was nice, but for the first time between MC and cathy it was really weird and sudden. *shrug*

And there were many other things i cant think off right now, but two final things... after waking up spooning Nicole... the kisses, and the Date later in the episode, really sweet, its gonna be love :D and i love it.

And the last one .... RIOOOOOOOO.... ahhhh, i love that girl. What a nice episode if you are a Rio fan, well... besides the endig of course. I always had the feeling that Rio will get a darker path in the game, and now it became really dark. She already was that damaged girl that didnt know that you can be with a guy without to fuck, MC is the first guy to show her that, and that is sweet and sad together. And now she is in the hands of Vinny (and buddy?) which of course will not lead to anything good for her. Many scenarios come to mind here but it has to be seen... Maybe Vinny will try to force her to turn her back on Quinn, it was hard enough to see that she get together with Quinn again in this episode, i hoped she would try to get away from her. Now Vinny might force her. Quinn played a stupid game all along without knowing how to play it... the whole drug thing is way above her head, sad to see that Rio has to pay the price for now. I admit, it made my heart skip a beat a little to see that scene in the end. But again... DPC made it very clear that being a dik will not turn out to be that dark as Acting Lesson was. So, yeah... she will be shaken, but fine in the end... but non the less, i cant shake the feeling of that Rio will not get a happy ending at the end of game.

Thats it for now...

I loved the episode overall, i would rate with 4,5/5.... BUT BUT BUT. I cant, cause 12 months waiting, to see such a ridiculous amount of unnecessary things (first of all the animations) was just too much. He could have released the episode in 9 months too, if not the whole brawler game would be animated and other shit too. It makes me mad.

Its near my favorite episodes yes, but the waiting time, especially additional 2 or 3 months only for the animations... yeah that alone pulls down everything a lot.

I really hope DPC decides to let most of the things like they are. The brawler game is done... just let it be, add more stats and thats it. No need for additional animations here. The fish game too, they are moving... just transfer it into episode 11 and be good about it. But yeah, we all know... it will not be the case. So, everything else than 12 months wating time for episode 11 would be a huge surprise, and its not ok. Yeah contenwise DPC easily beat every other DEV here, but he could deliver the same amo8unt of content in way shorter time, cause animations dont add anything to the playtime. Stick with lewd animations, and add some nice ones here and there... but he went so much overboard... ugh. Even way more than in ep 9.

final words? Screw phones for communication, Dildo-vibrator is the communication future!
 
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