ChipLecsap

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Yes, that's so much easier than getting Jill's lawyer to file a writ for the documents. Or they could have gone online, learned how to file a writ, it's not really difficult, just a few legal hoops to jump through and you don't need to be a member of the bar to do it. In fact it would settle the whole Loan storyline, Patrick wouldn't dare to act against Maya once the issue had been brought before the courts.
The problem is as Jill pointed out, that Maya signed a legal document, without even reading it. There is not much her lawyer can do about it, her signature is on a - so far assuming - legal document.
circumstances doesn't really matter, otherwise everyone would always complain. Artemis main protagonist signed up a paper, while he was drunk and did not read what he signed, because he trusted in his " girlfriend " and he learned he was fucked over by her, and he can't do anything about it legally.

Maya was an idiot, there is no other way to put it. But she grown so much in people eyes:whistle::LOL::ROFLMAO:
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Porthas

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Citing CW writing just proves my point, DPC is not a good writer. That's not to say that he hasn't written a few good scene's, the backyard guitar lesson from ep4 always springs to mind, but he is horribly inconsistent. I sometimes wonder if he hasn't used a ghost writer in the past
Your point wasn't that he wasn't a good writer. You said, "I've heard the college sitcom argument a lot on this forum, but the argument is getting pretty weak what with burglery, kidnapping, and assault with a deadly weapon entering the game."

All I did was point out all those elements ARE part of "college sitcoms" - whether or not that's considered good writing - or whether or not DPC's writing is good/not good - is a different topic.
 
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Porthas

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The problem is as Jill pointed out, that Maya signed a legal document, without even reading it. There is not much her lawyer can do about it, her signature is on a - so far assuming - legal document.
circumstances doesn't really matter, otherwise everyone would always complain. Artemis main protagonist signed up a paper, while he was drunk and did not read what he signed, because he trusted in his " girlfriend " and he learned he was fucked over by her, and he can't do anything about it legally.

Maya was an idiot, there is no other way to put it. But she grown so much in people eyes:whistle::LOL::ROFLMAO:
:coffee:
No, Jill's point was there wasn't much her lawyer could do about it without the documents to look at.
 

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Ain’t that the truth. I try out a new game every month or so. And sometimes I download it, play it for an hour or so… then close it without saving anything, and delete it.

Sometimes because the premise, which sounded interesting in the description, turned out to be completely stupid. Sometimes because it’s nothing but goddamned mini-games. Sometimes the writing: either nobody sounds remotely realistic, or even human; or it’s a shitty translation from whatever the author’s native language is, because they used Bing Translator or let a friend, who totally lied about their English skills, take a whack at it. Sometimes the art is shit, but I’m usually willing to overlook that… but not when it’s impossible to navigate.

Mostly it’s because of bad writing. Too many idiots think all you need for an AVN is a series of fuck scenes with hot girls, loosely connected by the thinnest of plots. True, that’s exactly how they make porn… but if we wanted porn, we’d watch porn! We want a story. With fuck scenes, but still. And if you don’t have a story, with characters we care about, don’t waste everyone’s time.
Like the guy said, really great stuff is rare in all genres, including printed novels. Here is my list of pretty good vn's

Corporate culture
BaD https://f95zone.to/threads/being-a-dik-v0-10-1-dr-pinkcake.25332/
Strangers on Paper
One Day at a Time https://f95zone.to/threads/one-day-at-a-time-ch-16c-zoey-raven.67104/
Friends in Need
Defending Lydia Collier https://f95zone.to/threads/defending-lydia-collier-v0-15-8-white-phantom-games.33797/
City of Broken Dreamers https://f95zone.to/threads/city-of-broken-dreamers-v1-14-0-ch-14-phillygames.25739/
Tales from Neverwhere https://f95zone.to/threads/the-neverwhere-tales-v0-4-0-ceolag.126219/
Race of Life https://f95zone.to/threads/race-of-life-ep-2-extra-new-underground-studio.130096/
Where it all Began https://f95zone.to/threads/where-it-all-began-ch-3-beta-oceanlab.19856/
Summer's Gone https://f95zone.to/threads/summers-gone-ch-5-beta-oceanlab.29981/
Fates Collide https://f95zone.to/threads/fates-collide-v0-4b-katanavn.90433/
Bad Memories
Radiant https://f95zone.to/threads/radiant-v0-5-2-rk-studios.49572/
unbdroken https://f95zone.to/threads/stwa-unbroken-pt-6-stwadev.85108/
A Man For All https://f95zone.to/threads/a-man-for-all-ep-13-venus-waltz.65913/
The Author https://f95zone.to/threads/something-to-write-about-the-author-ch-7-1-stwadev.48868/
Hillside https://f95zone.to/threads/hillside-v0-14-1-darkblue.52621/
 

ChipLecsap

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No, Jill's point was there wasn't much her lawyer could do about it without the documents to look at.
Yeah. It doesn't matter really, Jill's face when maya told she not read it, and she not even know what was in it, said it all. I would be surprise if her lawyer could do anything about it if it is indeed a legal ducument.

No matter what, this whole thing does not do any Favour to Maya, dpc try to soften it by saying derek also signed a similar contract but .... Yeah:whistle:. Maya offically take the biggest moron tittle from Jill, and that say something.:ROFLMAO:
 
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Yeah. It doesn't matter really, Jill's face when maya told she not read it, and she not even know what was in it, said it all. I would be surprise if her lawyer could do anything about it if it is indeed a legal ducument.

No matter what, this whole thing does not do any Favour to Maya, dpc try to soften it by saying derek also signed a similar contract but .... Yeah:whistle:. Maya offically take the biggest moron tittle from Jill, and that say something.:ROFLMAO:
Yes, it certainly is stupid to trust in your parents.

not really 5.gif
 

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hey guys how do you get it to work, I don't get the talk to Sage after the first minigame, is there a fix for that? thank you for your help
 

ChipLecsap

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Yes, it certainly is stupid to trust in your parents.

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In this case it is, I'm sorry, but there is not saving grace here, Maya fully aware of who is her father is, Its not like this is an isolated case, that she has a loving caring father, who totally unexpectedly out of nowhere, double cross her. but it is not even about trusting him, just simple common sense.

But we talking about a girl, who assumed she will get free education by simply joining a " girl band ". :whistle::ROFLMAO:

would been a bit different if she well aware of what it is in it, read it and etc, but she cant do anything but to Signed it, she forced to sign it, because she has no other option.
but I assume dpc want to give some kind of redemption to every Fucktard in the game, and it would be harder to sell it, if Patric is not just a " poor broken missguided father, who only wants best but in a wrong way " type of an asshole.:rolleyes:
 

whiterabbit23

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can anyone help with a solution for making v.10 work with what seems to be saves that used moded mode? first free roam can't end it cause never get the talk to sage part
 

DavDR

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The problem is as Jill pointed out, that Maya signed a legal document, without even reading it. There is not much her lawyer can do about it, her signature is on a - so far assuming - legal document.
circumstances doesn't really matter, otherwise everyone would always complain. Artemis main protagonist signed up a paper, while he was drunk and did not read what he signed, because he trusted in his " girlfriend " and he learned he was fucked over by her, and he can't do anything about it legally.

Maya was an idiot, there is no other way to put it. But she grown so much in people eyes:whistle::LOL::ROFLMAO:
:coffee:
Lawyers break contracts all the time, it's rarely an open and shut case. If Maya could offer testimony that she trusted her Father but was deceived (something Derek could testify too) it would probably be enough.

There's also the qualified borrower aspect that DPC hasn't addressed. Bank's aren't stupid, they know that they can't collect money that a person doesn't have. As a teenager with zero assets and who has never held a job, Maya is far from a qualified borrower and would never be accepted as a cosigner. If it's a scenario where Patrick asked a friend at the bank to submit the loan with Maya liable, then that friend is probably going to loose their job or even face prosecution.

You also have to consider that Patrick has a lot more to loose than Maya does. Cosigner doesn't mean that you are primarily responsible for the debt. Maya always has the option to just walk away.

So there's no easy way to fix this stupid plotline
 
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Your point wasn't that he wasn't a good writer. You said, "I've heard the college sitcom argument a lot on this forum, but the argument is getting pretty weak what with burglery, kidnapping, and assault with a deadly weapon entering the game."

All I did was point out all those elements ARE part of "college sitcoms" - whether or not that's considered good writing - or whether or not DPC's writing is good/not good - is a different topic.
It's not if you pick and choose my post
 

DavDR

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Yeah. It doesn't matter really, Jill's face when maya told she not read it, and she not even know what was in it, said it all. I would be surprise if her lawyer could do anything about it if it is indeed a legal ducument.

No matter what, this whole thing does not do any Favour to Maya, dpc try to soften it by saying derek also signed a similar contract but .... Yeah:whistle:. Maya offically take the biggest moron tittle from Jill, and that say something.:ROFLMAO:
They could always argue that Maya was mentally unfit to sign the contract
 

easykiln

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Just in case I'm missing it and something like this exists... There are no options or secrets that let you skip past tasks like watering Bella's plants in future playthroughs after doing it once, right? I play with minigames off, but paying attention to stuff like that makes trying variations annoying, even if things like gallery collectibles are persistent. I guess it's also kinda a shame that there isn't a notification in ending free roam that indicates you've finished all the non-hidden things you can do, but saves are good for bad memories.
 
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