VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[VaderExMachina]

Thank you for the help. I hope someone share those high tier previews too. That's some great work.

the link contains all previews from all tiers.

 

[PickleSteve]

The only decent way of including any form of voice over, in my opinion, is if it is optional. And by optional I mean it has its own audio track, seperate from all other music and audio, so when you turn it off it is simply not there. No music volume turned down for an absent VO (looking at you Come Home, one of the few detractors for that game), or any other audio shenanigans. It's fine if it's an option for those who want it, but I'll opt out every time.

Yeah, I'm not a fan of voice overs (in AVNs at least), could you guess? And honestly i can't understand why any dev would spend money, time and effort on that feature when the results are generally very poor. There are only a few VO artists willing to lend their talents for these adult games, so choices are pretty limited to begin with. Better to leave it out so you avoid players having the idea that a voice seems 'wrong' for the character, as is being dicussed here in the thread the last few posts.

(Edit: added 'time and effort' to money)

 

[VaderExMachina]

The post I linked to has all the previews up to $70 tier, there's none that haven't leaked and he doesn't release renders higher than the £70 tier. I have no idea what perks he gives the $100 and $150 tiers, maybe he lets them create characters and that's why we have the abomination that is Madame Rose.

nope, only get's discord role.

 

[Bronckk]

Haven’t paid attention to this in a while. I hate that DPC nerfed Bella’s ass. Wtf was dude thinking…

 

[kinkyshin]

Haven’t paid attention to this in a while. I hate that DPC nerfed Bella’s ass. Wtf was dude thinking…

I wasn't aware this happened, but it sounds like a good thing to me. Her BWH ratio is so unrealistic to the point that it's not even attractive. Which chapter did he change her?

 

[godkingxerxes]

If he's already planning on having them be voiced, he won't change his mind nor will he hesitate to make that happen. It's a stupid idea on its own but what's even dumber is that he'll probably have shitty voice actors/actresses for it like he did with Jill and Bella before he realized how moronic that was.

It's like the old saying, Pinkcakes gonna Pinkcakes. But even he's not stupid enough to throw voices onto characters after so long, we're already 6 years in, another 6 is a given at this point probably more.

By the time DPC gets to epilogues AI will be so good he could use AI voices

AI or not, everyone will still sound off from what we think. Even if you don't really have a voice for true characters, personally I don't, but any voice chosen by Pinkcakes will not be enjoyed by many a peoples and it would be a good way to piss the people off.

 

[L1m1tl3ss]

I wasn't aware this happened, but it sounds like a good thing to me. Her BWH ratio is so unrealistic to the point that it's not even attractive. Which chapter did he change her?

I agree on her body looking very unrealistic which in certain scenes looks kind of hideous. But I don't understand why DPC can't keep the characters busty and just make their waists slightly bigger to match with it or stop with his obsession on trying to make all the characters even skinnier than what they were before. He always thinks that he went overboard with the way he made their tits and asses big and dials back, then he sits there and wonders why all of his characters' proportions look off. It's not the size of the breasts or the ass that bothers me or probably anybody else, it's the overall shape and proportionality that goes along with it. It's already ridiculous that you got an almost 40-year old woman that's really lean with a 13-inch waist and DPC thinks that the correct way to improve their looks is make that even smaller. If you ask me, it sometimes seems like he doesn't know what the fuck he's doing.

 

[Darkwen]

It's like the old saying, Pinkcakes gonna Pinkcakes. But even he's not stupid enough to throw voices onto characters after so long, we're already 6 years in, another 6 is a given at this point probably more.



AI or not, everyone will still sound off from what we think. Even if you don't really have a voice for true characters, personally I don't, but any voice chosen by Pinkcakes will not be enjoyed by many a peoples and it would be a good way to piss the people off.

DPC will always find away to piss someone off. It might be better just to let the player imagine what the girl sounds like to me Josy would sound like Madison Beer but considering it could be anywhere from 5 to 10 years or more for this game to be finish there no telling the level of voice AI could make sure it only a tool and you got to know how to use it but that really could be something DPC could use mean it not like it going to be worse then Jill in the intro

 

[godkingxerxes]

DPC will always find away to piss someone off. It might be better just to let the player imagine what the girl sounds like to me Josy would sound like Madison Beer but considering it could be anywhere from 5 to 10 years or more for this game to be finish there no telling the level of voice AI could make sure it only a tool and you got to know how to use it but that really could be something DPC could use mean it not like it going to be worse then Jill in the intro

No doubt, and I am kind of curious how he imagines his characters sounding like, but I wouldn't want to hear it in game but maybe just in his yearly q and a he does.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

DPC will always find away to piss someone off. It might be better just to let the player imagine what the girl sounds like to me Josy would sound like Madison Beer but considering it could be anywhere from 5 to 10 years or more for this game to be finish there no telling the level of voice AI could make sure it only a tool and you got to know how to use it but that really could be something DPC could use mean it not like it going to be worse then Jill in the intro

Large audience. Even if he didn't have the typical "DPCs moments" there would still be some dissatisfaction among the audience.

And vocalizing a game of this genre is a terrible idea. There is no money for professional actors, even with his income level, and few people want to deal with a porn game, and cheap voice acting methods, well, we saw the result ourselves.

 

[Darkwen]

No doubt, and I am kind of curious how he imagines his characters sounding like, but I wouldn't want to hear it in game but maybe just in his yearly q and a he does.

That or have a choice to turn voice on or off

 

[Darkwen]

Large audience. Even if he didn't have the typical "DPCs moments" there would still be some dissatisfaction among the audience.

And vocalizing a game of this genre is a terrible idea. There is no money for professional actors, even with his income level, and few people want to deal with a porn game, and cheap voice acting methods, well, we saw the result ourselves.

True there no way to make everyone happy.

 

[Better Cock Spock]

DPC has talked about having the end voice

By the time DPC gets to epilogues AI will be so good he could use AI voices

DPC will always find away to piss someone off. It might be better just to let the player imagine what the girl sounds like to me Josy would sound like Madison Beer but considering it could be anywhere from 5 to 10 years or more for this game to be finish there no telling the level of voice AI could make sure it only a tool and you got to know how to use it but that really could be something DPC could use mean it not like it going to be worse then Jill in the intro

Seriously though, adding VA for the epilogue will sour the whole thing. Jill sounds bad, and Bella sounds even worse. Whether he uses new voices or AI, it's far too late for this, it won't fit. It'd be like recasting main characters for the series finale of a long running TV show. He had his shot and failed miserably, don't bother trying again.

 

[Darkwen]

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Seriously though, adding VA for the epilogue will sour the whole thing. Jill sounds bad, and Bella sounds even worse. Whether he uses new voices or AI, it's far too late for this, it won't fit. It'd be like recasting main characters for the series finale of a long running TV show. He had his shot and failed miserably, don't bother trying again.

Sure it might be odd waiting until the end to add it but with DPC you never know

 

[The Krogan Dude]

I wasn't aware this happened, but it sounds like a good thing to me. Her BWH ratio is so unrealistic to the point that it's not even attractive. Which chapter did he change her?

You could play Kin-ball with her tits. I can't imagine her back ache. No wonder why she never smiles.

 

[Better Cock Spock]

Bella beautiful, end of story

 

[Tincho_SI]

Anyone have the android port for season 1 and 2, and the 3 also?

 

[felicemastronzo]

Large audience. Even if he didn't have the typical "DPCs moments" there would still be some dissatisfaction among the audience.

And vocalizing a game of this genre is a terrible idea. There is no money for professional actors, even with his income level, and few people want to deal with a porn game, and cheap voice acting methods, well, we saw the result ourselves.

seems to me a sincerely futile and hardly productive effort.

music is certainly a strength of BADIK, yet so many, an absolutely not insignificant share, play without audio. what would be the point of adding the VA?


certainly it would conset DPC to slow down development again, so it cannot be ruled out

 

[PickleSteve]

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You could play Kin-ball with her tits. I can't imagine her back ache. No wonder why she never smiles.

Had to Google Kin-ball, I had never heard of it.... thanks for the laugh. You're not wrong...

 

[Better Cock Spock]

I got curious (again) and checked to see if Darkwen's comment about adding VA to Being a DIK in the future had any truth to it.
This is from his latest Q&A.

Many AVN and other adult game developers use voice acting for some parts in dialogue and/or lewd scenes. You have so far completely avoided these. Is there a game design reason you shy away from this, or a personal preference for some reason? or have you/are you considered experimenting with such sound in the future?
That's not true. I played around with them during Episode 1 of Being a DIK. Jill and Bella had partial voice acting. However, I moved away from the idea for multiple reasons. It was a big task to manage code, preparations, sound, and communication with voice actresses. It felt weird only to have partial voice acting for a few characters and the cast has somewhere between 100-200 characters who'd need to be voiced. I didn't have the budget for it back then either and had to prioritize hardware and software. So, I decided to scrap that idea early so I didn't have to adapt the story and write with that in mind. By now, every player has some voice in their mind for the characters and the workload of getting everything voiced by now is daunting. Even just adding and synchronizing sound to lewd scenes would take quite some time. I haven't planned to add it to Being a DIK in the future, but I'm not against using it in another game.

Sounds like it probably won't happen, and he acknowledges that any voices he adds won't match what's in the head of most of his players. He doesn't comment on the quality of the early VA though

There was a similar comment about Acting Lessons though, in an earlier Q&A.

If you would have done Acting Lessons now, would you change anything? Will you ever remaster Acting Lessons?

I replayed Acting Lessons not that long ago after not playing the game, other than for development purposes, since the 2018 December release. I'm happy with the game as a whole, and it set out to tell the story that I wanted to tell. It also ended where it needed to end, so any prolongation of it wouldn't be feasible.

If I were to remaster the game, there are many areas where I could improve. These include expanded lewd scenes and story, even more choices and branching, better visuals, more dialogue, better audio, and voice acting. With all those changes, it would be like developing a new game, and then I'd have to ask myself if it's worth it.

The story is what I want it to be, and any changes might take away from the original experience instead of making it a better game. The same could be the case if I only chose to remaster the art. The characters would likely look different, and it could potentially ruin the soul of the game.

I guess I see the potential remaster as romanticization. You build it up to sound great in your head, but it doesn't measure up when revisited in reality. At the moment, I’m not considering it, but I’m not shutting the door.

I think what we should all take away from this is that don't bother with voice acting unless you have an actual casting director, and money for real talent