Gunizz

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last beta took just a week.
Last beta for EP10 started between 13th or 15th November 2023, that is what he wrote in his last status update on 17th November 2023. Episode 10 was releases on 8th December 2023.
That's 23-25 days. A week should be 7 days AFAIK. I'm not a Nobel Prize in Mathematics but I think 23 days is more than three weeks. 7x3=21 AND 23>21 (correct me if I'm wrong). So BETA testing for Episode 10 took actually more than 3 weeks, not "just a week".
Please notice that, also according to ChatGPT, 3 = 1 + 1 + 1.

Not that i'm expecting it to happen, February is technically still possible. I vaguely recall DPC had previously mentioned that beta cycles take about 2 weeks. If the animation is on track for Feb 7, and beta starts right away as DPC said so we add 2 weeks to that, we are at Fri Feb 21. And if animation goes a little beyond Feb 7, there's still Fri Feb 28.

Bur realistically speaking, you just might be right.
This episode recycles old mini games but has more complicated free roams and it's fair to expect EP 11 to take around the same time of Beta testing. Two weeks could be possible if the most problems of EP 10 were the new mini games, of course. Free roams are not that complicated in the code itself, but continuity bugs can surface.
 
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John Ness

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I also bet on 14 February. I think DPC is trying to create an illusion of overdelivering.
Everyone will expecting a release on February 21st or 28th. But he will release it on the 14th.

He could have done it earlier if he wanted, but of course he doesn’t want to.
Next week he will start working on the next episode, the same thing he did at the end of the previous development cycle.
 
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Lagunavii

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I also bet on 14 February. I think DPC is trying to create an illusion of overdelivering.
Everyone will expecting a release on February 21st or 28th. But he will release it on the 14th.
No chance, if the animations don't finish till the 10/02, Beta testers are not getting it till the 11/02. Two weeks minimum testing puts us to 25/02....

Any kind of Feb release has now sailed.
 

Roger-a-Dale

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3 Madam scene, huh? MGs has only 2. Madam is the true MG.
Actually if you think about it, Madame only has one scene in the entire game. You just unlock more content for it.

But which character has the most actual content? Sage had two scenes in ep 10 but Bella's one scene is at least twice the content of those scenes put together. So in terms of renders and animations rather than scenes, who gets the most attention from DPC?
 

Gunizz

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But which character has the most actual content? Sage had two scenes in ep 10 but Bella's one scene is at least twice the content of those scenes put together. So in terms of renders and animations rather than scenes, who gets the most attention from DPC?
ElectronicRoberts is your guy, see this post he made a while in the back.
I also remember someone analysed the lines of dialogue for each character since EP1, and there was a table with statistics. I don't remember if it was ElectronicRobers again.
 

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Anyone who reads "Assuming the average render speed stays the same, the PCs should be done with the animation queue on February 7-9 at the latest" and thinks that a February release is even remotely possible is crazy. Firstly, per the laws of the universe, "February 7-9 at the latest" means there is no chance it finishes before February 9. February 10-11 is itself optimistic. Secondly, is the thought that by the time the animation queue is finished everything else is also going to be finished? I don't think there is any reason to believe that. I'm sure DPC will find plenty of things to add/remove/change/playtest between now and then. Thirdly, what about beta testing? Zero-shot that takes less than two weeks. I'd leave 2.5-3 weeks. Fourthly, he only releases on Fridays. Even in the non-existent world where he finishes the update in late February, do you really think he would release the update on February 28 instead of collecting another month of pledges?

March 21 feels borderline optimistic but we then get into the issue of if it takes until March 28, does he then delay until April to get more pledges or is that a bridge too far? It was clear many months ago that March was the best-case scenario and this progress report all but confirms it.

These updates have gotten far too large and unwieldy. For the love of God, split them up into parts like other devs do. At this point, the next question is does Ep. 12 take a year and half to develop?
 
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Gonna be the 4 millionth person to notice this, but this is the first time reading previously read dialogue since my first playthrough

Ooh the foreshadowing screenshot0001.png
 

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Secondly, is the thought that by the time the animation queue is finished everything else is also going to be finished?
The way DPC has always described his way of working and his idle PCs. Yes the thought is by the time the Animation queue is finished, everything else SHOULD be. There are of course no guarantees, he could be talking bollocks... But you are right anyway, just because the animations finish on the 9th doesn't mean the testers get it on the 10th

Even in the non-existent world where he finishes the update in late February, do you really think he would release the update on February 28 instead of collecting another month of pledges?
Nope, not a chance, he needs a few weeks promotion or rather a week or two of dead time, where his pledges can up there pledges to get the version early. And it's not like he can drop a release date when he gives the testers it mid/late Feb as he doesn't know how long it could take.

March 21 feels borderline optimistic but we then get into the issue of if it takes until March 28, does he then delay until April to get more pledges or is that a bridge too far? It was clear many months ago that March was the best-case scenario and this progress report all but confirms it.
Thats the latest I've seen yet, most guesses I've seen it put at 7 or 14 (they're optimistic I think) but as to if it actually drops then? It'll depend on when the date gets announced.

A Feb announcement gives time for the patrons to decide there pledge for a March release

A March announcement gives time for them to set up for an April release.

(if its the later is proven true, that would just be fucking poor form from DPC)
 

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Anyone who reads "Assuming the average render speed stays the same, the PCs should be done with the animation queue on February 7-9 at the latest" and thinks that a February release is even remotely possible is crazy. Firstly, per the laws of the universe, "February 7-9 at the latest" means there is no chance it finishes before February 9. February 10-11 is itself optimistic. Secondly, is the thought that by the time the animation queue is finished everything else is also going to be finished? I don't think there is any reason to believe that. I'm sure DPC will find plenty of things to add/remove/change/playtest between now and then. Thirdly, what about beta testing? Zero-shot that takes less than two weeks. I'd leave 2.5-3 weeks. Fourthly, he only releases on Fridays. Even in the non-existent world where he finishes the update in late February, do you really think he would release the update on February 28 instead of collecting another month of pledges?

March 21 feels borderline optimistic but we then get into the issue of if it takes until March 28, does he then delay until April to get more pledges or is that a bridge too far? It was clear many months ago that March was the best-case scenario and this progress report all but confirms it.

These updates have gotten far too large and unwieldy. For the love of God, split them up into parts like other devs do. At this point, the next question is does Ep. 12 take a year and half to develop?
If ep 12 comes in two parts each of them is going to take a year and thus a total of two rather than one and half. Smaller chunks will end up taking more time. Which one do you want faster? Your next fix or the actual complete game? That's what those other devs do. They give you small updates faster, but in total their games take several years and still have less content than one BADIK episode.
 
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