I'm gonna post my thoughts about the Maya and Josy situation. I am not a Maya/Josy fan they are way down my list of girls but I did enjoy their content in previous episodes and in this one even. Pretty sure it's gonna be an unpopular opinion but here goes:
I think most of the people getting pissed off at these two are acting like pussies to be quite frank, and the MC is absolutely overreacting.
Josy tells us from day one that she is in a relationship. It's the MC's choice to continue harbouring feelings and to pursue her. He even fucks her (if you chose this) knowing that she's in a relationship with someone and assuming that it's a guy. It shouldn't even matter to him that it's with Maya (which he makes a big deal out of) because the only reason that complicates things further is that he decided to fall for her also.
Maya is also standoffish from the MC from day one. She actively tries to divert his attention away from her and only starts reciprocating anything when the MC is pushing her and they are living together (which is MC's fault and she is doing him a favour). When we watch a movie together she explicitly tells MC it would be a bad idea for him to start feeling attracted towards her. Later when they're making out in bed after the first DIK party she says that she doesn't feel good about using the MC and he tells her that it's not using if both of them are using each other. The only time she leads the MC on is the final sex scene of Episode 3, at this point she hasn't spoken to Josy for a week or longer due to Josy being grounded and having no phone, and their relationship is completely on the rocks. Yeah she made a mistake at this point, but understanding the circumstances it's forgiveable.
The only complaints I have about this storyline from Episode 4 is DPC's decision to make the relationship continue or not rely on something so arbitrary. It should be based on your relationship points with both of them and nothing else. There's absolutely no reason for them to decide against dating the MC because he made choices that neither of them are even aware of. If it was gonna go that route it should have been designed like Bella's lunch scene in Episode 3 where her opinion of MC is shaped by his previous actions coming to light.
The two of them making out right after rejecting MC is pretty savage too but I basically just chose to ignore that since MC can't see it happening anyway. I don't really know why that was included but it's not a big deal in the story.
Lastly there is a pretty glaring plot hole IMO where Josy doesn't seem to question at all why the MC is pissed off at Maya even when he explicitly makes a big deal out of it in the bathroom (and also in texts if you choose that option).
Couldn't have said it better myself, this whole arc just ended up feeling off for me because of what you said basically. If this would have been written a bit better, I think it would have been better received personally.
haahahaha that made me laugh.. welcome to IRL buddy. word of advise, don't put too much attention or thought into this kind of woman. I'm not saying to fault anyone for being stupid once (having an interest or being with someone that you/everyone else with a brain not affected by feelz knows is not going to end well FOR HER for whatever reason), yeah, I'll just stop you there. At this you've already been friendzoned by her, so best to move on
I can honestly see how and why people would be pissed over the Maya, Josy stuff. I got lucky that i never really liked either so i really didn't care.
My favorite girl in this game is Quinn who got her best update so far and i am still ecstatic about it. After that is Isabella with whom we are progressing nicely in this update and finally got some proper action and Sage who also had a great update this episode.
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So 1. is dick route and 2. is neutral altought i had one with chick route end (in here 3.) because i played this route for last:
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I have dick and neutral route save end of ep 3,so anybody who need,here guys: (only work with waltrough mode so any save can change to chick route if you want with cheat right down corner)
So 1. is dick route and 2. is neutral altought i had one with chick route end (in here 3.) because i played this route for last:
The whole Jill being MC's aunt 'theory' can easily be debunked simply by the fact that there won't be any incest in this or any of DPC's games. If anything it's a red herring at best to entertain the idea.
I agree Blablablafapper. I just feel this is a path intentionally mirroring his father's relationship, and in the end the MC's choices will dictate whether it follows the same path or somehow turn out better. And since we know how the father's relationship came to an end creates a drama all in itself.
Now that's not saying we have to lose her by means of death, there's many ways it can play out (let me clear this up). I'm saying it could mirror the path in a general sense not everything has to play out the same. Jill has already mentioned being forced into a few dates with persistent wealthy boys looking to get closer to her because of her family name. As an example, it's no stretch to say that her family wouldn't attempt to force her into marrying someone else they deem worthy, which still leads us to losing her without her dying like the MC's mom did. It comes down to can the MC succeed with a better situation where his father didn't? Essentially, it could be a case of will history repeat itself or not. Could be wrong but I feel like that's where it's going.
Nice update, but MC's behavior was pissing me off. Josy told him from day one that she was in a relationship, and the only reason why it mattered so much that it turned out to be Maya is because he was dating her AND Josy at the same time. But somehow we're supposed to believe he wasn't to be held accountable for his actions. Somehow, we're supposed to believe MC is in a position to "give a second chance" to the girls. I still dumped them, but it was only to get rid of some of the competition in Jill's way
This drama was by far the weakest point of the update in my opinion, and unfortunately, it lasted quite a while. A shame, because the rest of the episode was quite well done.
Nice update, but MC's behavior was pissing me off. Josy told him from day one that she was in a relationship, and the only reason why it mattered so much that it turned out to be Maya is because he was dating her AND Josy at the same time. But somehow we're supposed to believe he wasn't to be held accountable for his actions. Somehow, we're supposed to believe MC is in a position to "give a second chance" to the girls. I still dumped them, but it was only to get rid of some of the competition in Jill's way
This drama was by far the weakest point of the update in my opinion, and unfortunately, it lasted quite a while. A shame, because the rest of the episode was well done. I'll see how it holds up in the DIK path.
I literally just wrote an essay about this on the previous page and you touch on a couple of the same points. However I also disagree with some of the things you say here. I think MC has the right to be pissed at them, much more so Maya than Josy though, because Maya was deliberately deceptive and led the MC on at the end of Episode 3 because of her precious HOT tuition money, after he already told her to think before she does stupid shit for that reason.
At the same time he also overreacted going full emo mode over it for two days and ghosting them.
My point is more that people had their opinion changed from what happened in Episode 4. Everything was already on the table when Episode 3 ended. Neither of them did anything in this episode that warrants people getting their feelings hurt. In fact I thought this episode was more redeeming for both of them, with the flashback and their scenes together without the MC.
Game is called being a DIK
Mechanic where you accumulate dick points and your behavior and choices change accordingly, sounds good
Play a max dick character, the dickest dick to ever dick
Cant actually be a dick whatsoever to the lesbians that cucked and lied to you
MC cries and sulks for many scenes even though he never cared about them before
Forced to be happy for them and act like he is the priest in a lesbian wedding
Game is called being a DIK
Mechanic where you accumulate dick points and your behavior and choices change accordingly, sounds good
Play a max dick character, the dickest dick to ever dick
Cant actually be a dick whatsoever to the lesbians that cucked and lied to you
MC cries and sulks for many scenes even though he never cared about them before
Forced to be happy for them and act like he is the priest in a lesbian wedding
I literally just wrote an essay about this on the previous page and you touch on a couple of the same points. However I also disagree with some of the things you say here. I think MC has the right to be pissed at them, much more so Maya than Josy though, because Maya was deliberately deceptive and led the MC on at the end of Episode 3 because of her precious HOT tuition money, after he already told her to think before she does stupid shit for that reason.
At the same time he also overreacted going full emo mode over it for two days and ghosting them.
My point is more that people had their opinion changed from what happened in Episode 4. Everything was already on the table when Episode 3 ended. Neither of them did anything in this episode that warrants people getting their feelings hurt. In fact I thought this episode was more redeeming for both of them, with the flashback and their scenes together without the MC.
Yeah, should have brought up Maya's role in this clusterfuck. Of course MC has the right to be pissed at Maya, since it isn't the first time she hasn't been honest with him. Hell, she deliberately made him think she was single despite still being in a relationship with Josy. Out of three, she definitely fucked up the most.
This path is really good, and the quality of the scenes certainly put's this game on the top of porn games.
However, losing Maya and Josy because you are a Dik, even though you are extremely positive to both of them is actually pretty sad...
I get the frustration, but I guess at some point Dr. Pink has to start narrowing down the paths, (and girls), you can pursue. I mean, from Ep1 playing a character on the CHICK path immediately cut you off from Quin, Riona, and Camila. I think it makes a bit of sense that certain love options would be dependent on your DIK levels. Thinking of Maya, Jill, and Bella - at some point, I couldn't see them going for a massive DIK type.
That being said, I was bummed that I had to choose between Maya + Josie, and Jade