VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[f96zonetrooper]

It's a joke

Did you try to talk with Arieth about STDs?

 

[ThatGuyWho]

Did you try to talk with Arieth about STDs?

Nope. Why? Is the joke theory actually real?

 

[Cndyrvr4lf]

It's a joke

Ah got it. You were joking about the possibility of the MC having an STD. Gosh I hope not because he should have listened to his dad and used protection. Heck can you imagine how many kids he might have if pregnancy was a tag.

 

[f96zonetrooper]

I'm sorry if this has been answered before, but do we have a general idea on how many chapters the finished game will have?

There was a Q&A in Feb. 2020 where DPC said : 10-20 episodes / 3-5 seasons.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

I'm sorry if this has been answered before, but do we have a general idea on how many chapters the finished game will have?

DPC once said between 10 and 20. They also said that it's not likely to be less than 4 seasons which means we're looking at at least 16 episodes unless things change during development.

 

[lordfridge9]

DPC once said between 10 and 20. They also said that it's not likely to be less than 4 seasons which means we're looking at at least 16 episodes unless things change during development.

By current development time that will take absolute years

 

[Cndyrvr4lf]

By current development time that will take absolute years

Holy Bacchus had a chart estimating sometime in 2025

 

[ThatGuyWho]

I guess it would be probably 4 seasons.

First: Joining the Diks
Second: The Dik Mansion drama thing
Third: The family drama
Fourth: Endgame

 

[Sunnie]

DPC once said between 10 and 20. They also said that it's not likely to be less than 4 seasons which means we're looking at at least 16 episodes unless things change during development.

Jesus. I guess I'll never actually see the end of it then. Man... I'm not sure how I feel about that. I hope he pulls it off, and doesn't burn himself out, like so many other devs I've seen. More power to him if he does succeed!

 

[lordfridge9]

What the hell are they gonna do for that many episodes? By ep 10 we could easily be in an established relationship with a LI. Better not be any "oh no we must break up because reasons" drama

 

[ename144]

I suppose that creating animated sex scenes costs a large part of development resources, so it is the opposite of "cheap" fan service.

If DPC would skip all the animated scenes and just have single lewd pictures instead (as in games 20-30 years ago), he could maybe release a new episode every 2 months. But the game would loose some of its appeal.

The animations are certainly resource intensive to create, but they're also an important part of all DPC's Patreon support. They're what pay the bills, which makes them effectively cheaper than free!

I do think the game could stand on its own merits without the hardcore sex, purely on the strength its visuals, music and characters. It would still be a raunchy sex farce, just more of an R rated one. But I'm not sure there was a ready audience that would have financed it that way, at least not enough to reach critical mass and get the game started.

So the sex scenes are a vital part of the game and fortunately they've generally been high quality. I do think Episode 5 went a little overboard. The scenes themselves worked well, but the episode not only had a very high ratio of sex-to-story, it also insisted on cramming almost all the sex scenes into the span of a single (incomplete!) party.

I'm hoping we can keep the high quality, plot relevant scenes going forward without it feeling quite as artificial as in Episode 5. Personally I'd be fine with fewer total sex scenes if they all felt well integrated into an advancing story, but I may be in the minority on that.

 

[mindern]

Nah, unlike ThatGuyWho I did enjoyed majority (close to half) of the sex scenes in this game. With exceptions of awkward animations, unfortunate light work (like with Sage in her dorm) and superfluos stuff like I just mentioned.

Thing is DPC can do sensible, realistic sex scenes which are somewhat meaningful. Bella in the shower is the best example of this (albeit the music did a lot of the heavy lifting there) and to some extent all the stuff with Sage. She's at least characterised as enjoying the kind of sex she engages in with the MC. It's not romantic (to begin with) but it isn't supposed to be. She shows humour and her adventurous side. She's a semi-realistic fuck buddy.


Josy in Ep5 was good for similar reasons but the Maya scene was just a wasted opportunity. The first proper time with the MC, first proper time with a guy and it's just a drunken fuck in someone elses bedroom? It was porn for porn's sake. The guy's got characters to show random gratuitous porn with (namely the 5 other girls you can fuck at that party who aren't main LI) but he could have used the first proper time with Maya as a chance to actually show their relationship as something substantial. Instead she's on par with the various hookers you rail in various other rooms. They should have had a proper date, alone, maybe a movie night or whatever to remind us she has a personality outside of "one third of a love triangle" and milestone their first time a bit more.

I hope we don't just end up randomly fucking Jill in a bathroom somewhere because whiny people want a sex scene with her and need placating. I don't mind the meaningless fucks with side chicks but when the story starts taking a hit so you can squeeze more porn in I get annoyed.

 

[Cndyrvr4lf]

Jesus. I guess I'll never actually see the end of it then. Man... I'm not sure how I feel about that. I hope he pulls it off, and doesn't burn himself out, like so many other devs I've seen. More power to him if he does succeed!

I've never seen a game like that with that sort of timeline finished. I know we have a few games that are years old and still being worked on but none of them that I can think of are even close to this high quality as far as graphics, story (granted we may not like all of it or think its flawed), programming, etc. etc.

 

[lordfridge9]

The animations are certainly resource intensive to create, but they're also an important part of all DPC's Patreon support. They're what pay the bills, which makes them effectively cheaper than free!

I do think the game could stand on its own merits without the hardcore sex, purely on the strength its visuals, music and characters. It would still be a raunchy sex farce, just more of an R rated one. But I'm not sure there was a ready audience that would have financed it that way, at least not enough to reach critical mass and get the game started.

So the sex scenes are a vital part of the game and fortunately they've generally been high quality. I do think Episode 5 went a little overboard. The scenes themselves worked well, but the episode not only had a very high ratio of sex-to-story, it also insisted on cramming almost all the sex scenes into the span of a single (incomplete!) party.

I'm hoping we can keep the high quality, plot relevant scenes going forward without it feeling quite as artificial as in Episode 5. Personally I'd be fine with fewer total sex scenes if they all felt well integrated into an advancing story, but I may be in the minority on that.

We had music, lol I played without any sounds for like 12h. Unless we had to activate songs each time we wanted stuff to play. I didn't know whether that's limited to the music player or not so never bothered with it

 

[Ilhares]

And AL has Leah, Ana, and the 2 college girls in the banner but only 3 of them are pursuable as LIs and Ana is the default if the MC fucks her and the other LIs leave the MC. So Quinn could very well be that default character if the MC doesn't get with any of the main LIs but does do something(s) with her.

It had been so long I had to go back and dig into the game to remember who Ana was. I don't think I ever gave her the time of day. Only a fool goes back to a poisoned well when he's thirsty.

Ah got it. You were joking about the possibility of the MC having an STD. Gosh I hope not because he should have listened to his dad and used protection. Heck can you imagine how many kids he might have if pregnancy was a tag.

I keep hoping. I figure between Camila and Riona my new family clan will be full of beautiful babies. I'd be afraid of Bella's reaction if I discussed the option.

 

[lemonfreak]

In a game like BaDIK with dozens of lewd scenes, variety is important. I don't see the Zoey scene negative.

If a sex scene is important, DPC will include it in the best possible quality.
If an anticipated sex scene is not included, then likely because DPC had other plans.

You're right and it's a great scene if you're into the graphic portrayal of sex but ThatGuyWho has been stating that he doesn't require sex to be shown in order for the story being told to work, and in fact, finds that showing the sex in such detail takes away from the overall impact. For some reason my mind goes back to Close My Eyes a 1991 British movie starring Clive Owen, Alan Rickman and Saskia Reeves (you may know her from the first series of Luther). In that movie, Owen and Reeves played siblings who embarked on an incestuous relationship, even after she and Rickman's character were married to each other.

I bring this movie up ONLY to point out that in the specific story depicted, graphic sex (for a mainstream movie) needed to be shown and that, were Owen and Reeves characters old school friends instead, sex could be implied rather than shown.

 

[Cndyrvr4lf]

The animations are certainly resource intensive to create, but they're also an important part of all DPC's Patreon support. They're what pay the bills, which makes them effectively cheaper than free!

I do think the game could stand on its own merits without the hardcore sex, purely on the strength its visuals, music and characters. It would still be a raunchy sex farce, just more of an R rated one. But I'm not sure there was a ready audience that would have financed it that way, at least not enough to reach critical mass and get the game started.

So the sex scenes are a vital part of the game and fortunately they've generally been high quality. I do think Episode 5 went a little overboard. The scenes themselves worked well, but the episode not only had a very high ratio of sex-to-story, it also insisted on cramming almost all the sex scenes into the span of a single (incomplete!) party.

I'm hoping we can keep the high quality, plot relevant scenes going forward without it feeling quite as artificial as in Episode 5. Personally I'd be fine with fewer total sex scenes if they all felt well integrated into an advancing story, but I may be in the minority on that.

I'm in that minority as well. I'm praying this doesn't get screwed up. I'm jaded so don't have a lot of faith but I'm trying.

 

[f96zonetrooper]

I guess it would be probably 4 seasons.

First: Joining the Diks
Second: The Dik Mansion drama thing
Third: The family drama
Fourth: Endgame

The drama with the DIK mansion came unexpected, so I don't do any forecasts for BaDIK.

In early 20th century there were long running comic series in the newspapers which followed a simple pattern :
add a problem - solve the problem and add another problem - solve the problem and add another problem - ...
In theory DPC could run endless number of seasons of BaDIK until he looses interest, runs out of creative ideas or simply retires/dies because of a high age.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

By current development time that will take absolute years

Well, assuming that, at most, each new episode continues to take around 4 months each, this is how long it would take for 3, 4, and 5 seasons of 4 episodes each starting from this month when development of ep 6 begins:

3 Seasons, 12 Episodes

• 7 episodes remaining x 4 months = 28 months. 28 months from June 2020 = October 2022

4 Seasons, 16 Episodes

• 11 episodes remaining x 4 months = 44 months. 44 months from June 2020 = February 2024

5 Seasons, 20 Episodes

• 15 episodes remaining x 60 months = 60 months. 60 months from June 2020 = June 2025

 

[ename144]

Thing is DPC can do sensible, realistic sex scenes which are somewhat meaningful. Bella in the shower is the best example of this (albeit the music did a lot of the heavy lifting there) and to some extent all the stuff with Sage. She's at least characterised as enjoying the kind of sex she engages in with the MC. It's not romantic (to begin with) but it isn't supposed to be. She shows humour and her adventurous side. She's a semi-realistic fuck buddy.


Josy in Ep5 was good for similar reasons but the Maya scene was just a wasted opportunity. The first proper time with the MC, first proper time with a guy and it's just a drunken fuck in someone elses bedroom? It was porn for porn's sake. The guy's got characters to show random gratuitous porn with (namely the 5 other girls you can fuck at that party who aren't main LI) but he could have used the first proper time with Maya as a chance to actually show their relationship as something substantial. Instead she's on par with the various hookers you rail in various other rooms. They should have had a proper date, alone, maybe a movie night or whatever to remind us she has a personality outside of "one third of a love triangle" and milestone their first time a bit more.

I hope we don't just end up randomly fucking Jill in a bathroom somewhere because whiny people want a sex scene with her and need placating. I don't mind the meaningless fucks with side chicks but when the story starts taking a hit so you can squeeze more porn in I get annoyed.

I'm not quite as negative on Maya's scene. I think it had a few nice bits, mostly about Maya's tongue piercing.

But I do agree it was a missed opportunity for something more (ironic!), and the character work is carried mostly by non-sex conversation with Maya leading into it and the brief appearance by Josy at the end.