VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[lordfridge9]

Thing is DPC can do sensible, realistic sex scenes which are somewhat meaningful. Bella in the shower is the best example of this (albeit the music did a lot of the heavy lifting there) and to some extent all the stuff with Sage. She's at least characterised as enjoying the kind of sex she engages in with the MC. It's not romantic (to begin with) but it isn't supposed to be. She shows humour and her adventurous side. She's a semi-realistic fuck buddy.


Josy in Ep5 was good for similar reasons but the Maya scene was just a wasted opportunity. The first proper time with the MC, first proper time with a guy and it's just a drunken fuck in someone elses bedroom? It was porn for porn's sake. The guy's got characters to show random gratuitous porn with (namely the 5 other girls you can fuck at that party who aren't main LI) but he could have used the first proper time with Maya as a chance to actually show their relationship as something substantial. Instead she's on par with the various hookers you rail in various other rooms. They should have had a proper date, alone, maybe a movie night or whatever to remind us she has a personality outside of "one third of a love triangle" and milestone their first time a bit more.

I hope we don't just end up randomly fucking Jill in a bathroom somewhere because whiny people want a sex scene with her and need placating. I don't mind the meaningless fucks with side chicks but when the story starts taking a hit so you can squeeze more porn in I get annoyed.

Jill is like the most popular character. People will riot if she gets such a treatment

 

[Cndyrvr4lf]

Jeez I'll need to buy viagra to finish the game

 

[lemonfreak]

Well, assuming that, at most, each new episode continues to take around 4 months each, this is how long it would take for 3, 4, and 5 seasons of 4 episodes each starting from this month when development of ep 6 begins:

3 Seasons, 12 Episodes

• 7 episodes remaining x 4 months = 28 months. 28 months from June 2020 = October 2022

4 Seasons, 16 Episodes

• 11 episodes remaining x 4 months = 44 months. 44 months from June 2020 = February 2024

5 Seasons, 20 Episodes

• 15 episodes remaining x 60 months = 60 months. 60 months from June 2020 = June 2025

That of course depends on DPC's hardware rendering at the same rate. Should he upgrade his hardware in late 2022 (all depending on technological advances), it might be possible for him to quadrupal his rendering time and get the final release out far sooner, unless he goes into re-work mode which is the death of any dev.

 

[lordfridge9]

Jeez I'll need to buy viagra to finish the game

don't do a 24h session, trust me won't be good for you

 

[lemonfreak]

don't do a 24h session, trust me won't be good for you

No, do, but, invest in an industrial vat of Jergens

 

[Cndyrvr4lf]

don't do a 24h session, trust me won't be good for you

Rubbed raw would have a whole new meaning

 

[ename144]

That of course depends on DPC's hardware rendering at the same rate. Should he upgrade his hardware in late 2022 (all depending on technological advances), it might be possible for him to quadrupal his rendering time and get the final release out far sooner, unless he goes into re-work mode which is the death of any dev.

Sadly, I suspect he would increase the number, length and quality of renders instead and maintain roughly the same pace.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

I guess it would be probably 4 seasons.

First: Joining the Diks
Second: The Dik Mansion drama thing
Third: The family drama
Fourth: Endgame

That's actually not a bad breakdown of how this could go. It's also entirely possible that the 4th season, if it were to be the season that wraps things up, could just be 2 episodes like AL was, and this would actually be very much preferrable.

What the hell are they gonna do for that many episodes? By ep 10 we could easily be in an established relationship with a LI. Better not be any "oh no we must break up because reasons" drama

Things have been moving very fast for the MC so far and, whilst some might argue against it, I feel like we could see some sort of time jump after this Scavenger Hunt week is over. It would make sense to me to do this because, if the MC's life settles down into something of a routine by the end of this of this upcoming week and other plot threads are given a brief respite as well, it would allow the story to advance without the need for intervention by the players until the next dramatic story beat, which would likely be the MC's birthday and finding out what's in that letter.

That of course depends on DPC's hardware rendering at the same rate. Should he upgrade his hardware in late 2022 (all depending on technological advances), it might be possible for him to quadrupal his rendering time and get the final release out far sooner, unless he goes into re-work mode which is the death of any dev.

Hardware advancements aside, there's still the man hours required to pose the models and make the animations which is still the longest part of development. Not to mention the development of the free-roam and mini-games, and DPC seems to like adding new types of mini-games and this will also take time.

DPC has also been upping the number of renders and animations by quite a bit with each episode, so I'd expect this to continue as well and that means more time spent posing renders and making animations.

 

[lemonfreak]

That's actually not a bad breakdown of how this could go. It's also entirely possible that the 4th season, if it were to be the season that wraps things up, could just be 2 episodes like AL was, and this would actually be very much preferrable.



Things have been moving very fast for the MC so far and, whilst some might argue against it, I feel like we could see some sort of time jump after this Scavenger Hunt week is over. It would make sense to me to do this because, if the MC's life settles down into something of a routine by the end of this of this upcoming week and other plot threads are given a brief respite as well, it would allow the story to advance without the need for intervention by the players until the next dramatic story beat, which would likely be the MC's birthday and finding out what's in that letter.



Hardware advancements aside, there's still the man hours required to pose the models and make the animations which is still the longest part of development. Not to mention the development of the free-roam and mini-games, and DPC seems to like adding new types of mini-games and this will also take time.

DPC has also been upping the number of renders and animations by quite a bit with each episode, so I'd expect this to continue as well and that means more time spent posing renders and making animations.

I was exaggerating for hyperbolic reasons

 

[f96zonetrooper]

The animations are certainly resource intensive to create, but they're also an important part of all DPC's Patreon support. They're what pay the bills, which makes them effectively cheaper than free!

I do think the game could stand on its own merits without the hardcore sex, purely on the strength its visuals, music and characters. It would still be a raunchy sex farce, just more of an R rated one. But I'm not sure there was a ready audience that would have financed it that way, at least not enough to reach critical mass and get the game started.

So the sex scenes are a vital part of the game and fortunately they've generally been high quality. I do think Episode 5 went a little overboard. The scenes themselves worked well, but the episode not only had a very high ratio of sex-to-story, it also insisted on cramming almost all the sex scenes into the span of a single (incomplete!) party.

I'm hoping we can keep the high quality, plot relevant scenes going forward without it feeling quite as artificial as in Episode 5. Personally I'd be fine with fewer total sex scenes if they all felt well integrated into an advancing story, but I may be in the minority on that.

The sex scenes in BaDIK (mostly) have the highest quality I have ever seen in a game so far.

However in ep.5 I was a little bit disappointed with the beginning of the Riona scene where she is kneeling and her legs in the up/down movements looked really weird. And in the bath scene with Sarah and Mel I wished to have a better view of their soaked bodies (tits, pussy, ass) and more options than just a hand/blowjob.

 

[lordfridge9]

Things have been moving very fast for the MC so far and, whilst some might argue against it, I feel like we could see some sort of time jump after this Scavenger Hunt week is over. It would make sense to me to do this because, if the MC's life settles down into something of a routine by the end of this of this upcoming week and other plot threads are given a brief respite as well, it would allow the story to advance without the need for intervention by the players until the next dramatic story beat, which would likely be the MC's birthday and finding out what's in that letter.

I will be concerned if the game goes into year 2 or year 3 of the tuition. Mostly because Jill will be done after this year, Sage is getting close and for Bella having a "secret" relationship with a student for 3 years is probably not ideal

 

[ename144]

That's actually not a bad breakdown of how this could go. It's also entirely possible that the 4th season, if it were to be the season that wraps things up, could just be 2 episodes like AL was, and this would actually be very much preferrable.

Given the last two episodes of AL were horrendous, I'm going to hope for something very different! But a short wrap-up season would be fine.

Personally, I think Season 2 is likely to focus on the HOTs drama. Season 3 as Lynette's family and Season 4 is the denouement are good guesses. I think rebuilding the DIKs will be an ongoing project, sort of paralleling the MC building his future life with [chosen LI here].

 

[ThatGuyWho]

The animations are certainly resource intensive to create, but they're also an important part of all DPC's Patreon support. They're what pay the bills, which makes them effectively cheaper than free!

I do think the game could stand on its own merits without the hardcore sex, purely on the strength its visuals, music and characters. It would still be a raunchy sex farce, just more of an R rated one. But I'm not sure there was a ready audience that would have financed it that way, at least not enough to reach critical mass and get the game started.

So the sex scenes are a vital part of the game and fortunately they've generally been high quality. I do think Episode 5 went a little overboard. The scenes themselves worked well, but the episode not only had a very high ratio of sex-to-story, it also insisted on cramming almost all the sex scenes into the span of a single (incomplete!) party.

I'm hoping we can keep the high quality, plot relevant scenes going forward without it feeling quite as artificial as in Episode 5. Personally I'd be fine with fewer total sex scenes if they all felt well integrated into an advancing story, but I may be in the minority on that.

Thing is DPC can do sensible, realistic sex scenes which are somewhat meaningful. Bella in the shower is the best example of this (albeit the music did a lot of the heavy lifting there) and to some extent all the stuff with Sage. She's at least characterised as enjoying the kind of sex she engages in with the MC. It's not romantic (to begin with) but it isn't supposed to be. She shows humour and her adventurous side. She's a semi-realistic fuck buddy.


Josy in Ep5 was good for similar reasons but the Maya scene was just a wasted opportunity. The first proper time with the MC, first proper time with a guy and it's just a drunken fuck in someone elses bedroom? It was porn for porn's sake. The guy's got characters to show random gratuitous porn with (namely the 5 other girls you can fuck at that party who aren't main LI) but he could have used the first proper time with Maya as a chance to actually show their relationship as something substantial. Instead she's on par with the various hookers you rail in various other rooms. They should have had a proper date, alone, maybe a movie night or whatever to remind us she has a personality outside of "one third of a love triangle" and milestone their first time a bit more.

I hope we don't just end up randomly fucking Jill in a bathroom somewhere because whiny people want a sex scene with her and need placating. I don't mind the meaningless fucks with side chicks but when the story starts taking a hit so you can squeeze more porn in I get annoyed.

Both you guys makes some really interesting arguments.

The thing is: If BaD wasn't a adult VN, I wouldn't even know about it, so I'm glad it is and I live to appreciate the storytelling.

I will keep playing the game, fast forwarding through the sex (I still need to read it for story reasons) and enjoying the heck out of it. I just want the sex scenes to be actually well written and relevant instead of just fan service to please the public, like the dreams was.

 

[jackofshadows]

I suppose that creating animated sex scenes costs a large part of development resources, so it is the opposite of "cheap" fan service.

Not literally cheap. I meant as a cheap excuse for inserting it.

Thing is DPC can do sensible, realistic sex scenes which are somewhat meaningful. Bella in the shower is the best example of this (albeit the music did a lot of the heavy lifting there) and to some extent all the stuff with Sage. She's at least characterised as enjoying the kind of sex she engages in with the MC. It's not romantic (to begin with) but it isn't supposed to be. She shows humour and her adventurous side. She's a semi-realistic fuck buddy.


Josy in Ep5 was good for similar reasons but the Maya scene was just a wasted opportunity. The first proper time with the MC, first proper time with a guy and it's just a drunken fuck in someone elses bedroom? It was porn for porn's sake. The guy's got characters to show random gratuitous porn with (namely the 5 other girls you can fuck at that party who aren't main LI) but he could have used the first proper time with Maya as a chance to actually show their relationship as something substantial. Instead she's on par with the various hookers you rail in various other rooms. They should have had a proper date, alone, maybe a movie night or whatever to remind us she has a personality outside of "one third of a love triangle" and milestone their first time a bit more.

I hope we don't just end up randomly fucking Jill in a bathroom somewhere because whiny people want a sex scene with her and need placating. I don't mind the meaningless fucks with side chicks but when the story starts taking a hit so you can squeeze more porn in I get annoyed.

Yeah, if I were a Maya's fan I probably would have been pissed as fuck I don't see something similiar happening to Jill though. My guess it will be tied to some emotional event, like that piano performance and near-perfect conditions will be created place-to-fuck wise. Of course, there's always a chance that DPC will want to cross expectations like these instead just for the sake of it.

That of course depends on DPC's hardware rendering at the same rate. Should he upgrade his hardware in late 2022 (all depending on technological advances), it might be possible for him to quadrupal his rendering time and get the final release out far sooner, unless he goes into re-work mode which is the death of any dev.

Apart from what others have mentioned, I think DPC have some special kind of schedule about release plans so despite what he's repeating over and over about 24x7 rendering it might not be actually a bottlenecking. I mean, even if he does 24x7 rendering there's always bad ones, discarded for other reason, sometimes he might reuse more instead etc etc, it's just a part of the process, basically.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

I will be concerned if the game goes into year 2 or year 3 of the tuition. Mostly because Jill will be done after this year, Sage is getting close and for Bella having a "secret" relationship with a student for 3 years is probably not ideal

I'm fairly certain this will only cover the 1st year of college for the MC. Any time jumps would just be to other parts of this year, until we get the endings which probably summarise the next few years of college and perhaps afterwards too.

 

[ThatGuyWho]

Given the last two episodes of AL were horrendous, I'm going to hope for something very different! But a short wrap-up season would be fine.

Personally, I think Season 2 is likely to focus on the HOTs drama. Season 3 as Lynette's family and Season 4 is the denouement are good guesses. I think rebuilding the DIKs will be an ongoing project, sort of paralleling the MC building his future life with [chosen LI here].

Reading this, I would really prefer the mansion rebuilding to be a side thing through seasons. The way they addressed the issue make it sounds like it not going to be easy and an one season thing.

Season 4: Wrapping up the mansion thing and the overhaul game then? I think it sounds good.

 

[lemonfreak]

A thought has been sitting in the back of my mind for some time; the scene where MC reveals to Sage that his mother is dead brought to mind once more. I have suggested that the look on Sage's suggests that she either wants to kiss MC, hug him and never let go or push him out of a window.

It reminds me of the cutscene in FF8, where Rinoa realises that Squall is deliberately dancing badly and narrows her eyes at him. The fact that there is an Aerith but a Riona feels like DPC is trolling me personally, which is obviously untrue and the result of a minor mental issue

 

[Cndyrvr4lf]

I will be concerned if the game goes into year 2 or year 3 of the tuition. Mostly because Jill will be done after this year, Sage is getting close and for Bella having a "secret" relationship with a student for 3 years is probably not ideal

Depends on how long the episodes cover. EP 5 covered a day and change I cant remember the rest but you do the math 5 episodes = 2 weeks so by that standard without time jumps we are looking at what a couple of months (if that game time) for the whole game?

 

[lordfridge9]

A thought has been sitting in the back of my mind for some time; the scene where MC reveals to Sage that his mother is dead brought to mind once more. I have suggested that the look on Sage's suggests that she either wants to kiss MC, hug him and never let go or push him out of a window.

It reminds me of the cutscene in FF8, where Rinoa realises that Squall is deliberately dancing badly and narrows her eyes at him. The fact that there is an Aerith but a Riona feels like DPC is trolling me personally, which is obviously untrue and the result of a minor mental issue

This is definitely a very bad thing to say, but I feel like the "mom died in childbirth" is used by the MC to always get insta good points with all the LI's as they always feel very sad for him and just wanna take care of him

 

[f96zonetrooper]

I'm fairly certain this will only cover the 1st year of college for the MC. Any time jumps would just be to other parts of this year, until we get the endings which probably summarise the next few years of college and perhaps afterwards too.

If DPC keeps the ingame pace of 2 weeks per season, he may need 25+ seasons to cover year 1 of college.