VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Tserriednich'sNen]

So MC's birthday will be covered in 6th episode or in 7th ??

We don't know when exactly it is so we can't say for sure, it could even happen in Season 2's final episode or before. We only that it's coming up so that's an event to look forward to in season 2 which will likely be significant given it's about his mom according to Neil.

 

[julezzz]

Playing for the first time. The story so far leading up to meeting Jill feels like an Asian drama... lol

 

[lemonfreak]

Not to mention a lot will depend on DPC's intentions, if it's to be purely about the letter then MC could go home as early as the next epsiode, however, there are other possibilities depending on the path you're on:

- MC wants to take Jill home to meet his dad

- MC wants to take Sage home to meet his dad

- He wants to intoduce Maya and Josy to his dad
- M&J are keeping their secret for now so Josy goes home and Maya stays with MC

- MC is friends with M&J so they travel together but M&J stay with Pete and Monica

- MC and Josy travel together as friends but grow closer while apart from Maya


All of those would need to occur later, some could happen in Ep6 but for convenience should probably all happen in Ep8.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Uh Bra, hold your horses, wedding? You sure you are not playing Sisterly Lust here? Pregnant and Wedding in 144 days?

MC is a full chick in is heart
I don't know who his wife will be, but he will wear white

 

[felicemastronzo]

I am pretty sure I will just state the obvious, but:

All this "forced romance" is a necessary evil. Implementation of the story in other ways would simply not be possible. So complaining about it seems just plain stupid to me ("I dont want to date Josy" "I tried my best to avoid Maya and we still kissed" "I tried my best to piss off Jill and we still went on a date" "That's not how it should be - Stupid Illusion of choice" yadayadayada).
Forced Romance as in: Kissing Maya, Date with Josy, Date with Jill etc.
It is absolutely impossible to avoid those scenarios, due to the plot and how it's driven.

You can ignore Bella and/or Sage during chapter 4 but in the end Sage and Bella will befriend you back in Chapter 5. Same with Josy and Maya. That's cause all of those characters are important for the plot.
And tbh that's how it should be.

DPC crafted a very interesting story, where everything does happen in a fixed way. Your choices technically only affect which H-scenes you can and will see. But the overall plot demands every single Love Interest to be present and that's the best decision DPC could make to create such a good game.

I am pretty sure that the ending will be an accumulation of your choices and different endings will be available, but knowing DPC I am quite positive, that most choices in this game do not matter for the overall plot (THAT'S how it should be btw, lest you want to program/write a 1TB Renpy game).

I am still mad when people complain about the affection system, the dating system and whatnot after they played the game 5 times and gamed the system. It's not really meant to be gamed. If you look at it with a more experienced/gamified viewpoint with DIK points/Relationship points, of course the game falls apart.

But playing the game for the first time and making decisions on a very personal level with the feedback at the end of each chapter how much Chick/Dik you are: Wonderful decision by DPC. Kudos to such a great design.

And yes. That forced romance was a big reason why I did not like Acting lessons that much. It really dragged down my experience being forced into a relationship with Megan, while not being interested in any of those girls. Still... I enjoyed the game and I knew that it was a necessary sacrifice DPC made.

TLDR: Dont complain about forced romance and/or the point/affinity system, unless they are blowing it WAY out of proportion/context. If you do I can't help myself rolling my eyes at you.

my judgment on the game remains very good, I am not unbalanced because in my opinion the ending is worth half the judgment on any story (and I am always worried that the game actually ends ...)

it is not a problem that the story has forced passages, it is a thing common to almost all games and it is understandable, as you say, also for a technical question

the problem is making choices and seeing them completely ignored.

for example: when MC is at Josy's dinner, he can decide whether to stay or go home. the choice makes sense, if we focus on Maya we may not want to betray her, Josy then at that moment seems to be going away.
I agree that 99% of players will choose to stay, it's a porn game and we play for that.

but if you choose to leave, Josy will be punished by her parents anyway, so she will be without a phone and will not be able to notify Maya.

what is that choice for? just delete it, nobody would complain about it.

this situation has led me, but I think many players, to follow 2 paths: always look for lewd scenes, or play in defense. both possibilities kill roleplay enough

 

[AvatarStormBringer]

You should jump in, it's where all the fun is.

Already deep down in it and swimming, ignoring all the other swimmers around me.

 

[Playstorepers]

IMHO and really just my opinion here,

I can totally understand the "retcon" of the library scene in ep.5.
I don't know about you guys, but is it really that farfetched that even after saying "I just want to be friends" there is still emotional baggage still in the air?

And Josy and Mayas reaction especially are very relatable.
Josy feels like she had no choice to hang on to the friendship even though she clearly had feelings for the MC. So once the friendship was offered she latched on to it since not doing so would potentially mean she would have lost Maya and MC.
Maya was also always attracted to MC and the talk in the room afterwards where MC pledges his loyalty can understandably be confusing, considering the fact they were almost lovers about 2-4 days (!) ago.

The only inconsistent factor is the MC since it is a projected character of yourself, so I get that some people already ended their relationship with Maya and Josy after Chapter 4 library scene (Some even before) in their head, but I absolutely do understand why Maya/Josy/MC act and think that way in chapter 5. It's just almost impossible to get closure after 1 day.
Even though I do see, why people think that it is off.

 

[felicemastronzo]

IMHO and really just my opinion here,

I can totally understand the "retcon" of the library scene in ep.5.
I don't know about you guys, but is it really that farfetched that even after saying "I just want to be friends" there is still emotional baggage still in the air?

And Josy and Mayas reaction especially are very relatable.
Josy feels like she had no choice to hang on to the friendship even though she clearly had feelings for the MC. So once the friendship was offered she latched on to it since not doing so would potentially mean she would have lost Maya and MC.
Maya was also always attracted to MC and the talk in the room afterwards where MC pledges his loyalty can understandably be confusing, considering the fact they were almost lovers about 2-4 days (!) ago.

The only inconsistent factor is the MC since it is a projected character of yourself, so I get that some people already ended their relationship with Maya and Josy after Chapter 4 library scene (Some even before) in their head, but I absolutely do understand why Maya/Josy/MC act and think that way in chapter 5. It's just almost impossible to get closure after 1 day.
Even though I do see, why people think that it is off.

it's a strong scene but it develops in a way we never expected.

the girls press MC because he gives them an opportunity to explain themself, in the end MC gives it to them, but he is the one who explains himself, or rather, to solve the problems between the 2 girls ...

the "let's be friends" option does not make any sense, but it is the safety net if the proposal is rejected, it must be accepted in this light.

I absolutely don't think it's a wrong scene, it's consistent with the MC character, who is a Masochistic Samaritan

 

[xsssssssss]

for example: when MC is at Josy's dinner, he can decide whether to stay or go home. the choice makes sense, if we focus on Maya we may not want to betray her, Josy then at that moment seems to be going away.
I agree that 99% of players will choose to stay, it's a porn game and we play for that.

but if you choose to leave, Josy will be punished by her parents anyway, so she will be without a phone and will not be able to notify Maya.

what is that choice for? just delete it, nobody would complain about it.

this situation has led me, but I think many players, to follow 2 paths: always look for lewd scenes, or play in defense. both possibilities kill roleplay enough

Well I disagree, that choice is very important. The player, i for one wouldn’t want to be railroaded into a sex scene. That’s quite a difference from the odd fixed kiss. A choice still has merit from a role playing perspective. It is the forced dinner date anyway that leads to the forced Josy punishment.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Well I disagree, that choice is very important. The player, i for one wouldn’t want to be railroaded into a sex scene. That’s quite a difference from the odd fixed kiss. A choice still has merit from a role playing perspective. It is the forced dinner date anyway that leads to the forced Josy punishment.

but that Josy is punished for bringing a boy to the parents' room is credible, that she is punished for having dined with someone less ...

how does it make an important choice if it doesn't make any difference afterwards?

it's not that if you don't have sex with Josy, Maya will give you credit later ....

 

[AvatarStormBringer]

The problem here is that MC is overly good to them even after friendzoning them. After kicking them to the curb, he's giving them the wrong impression and signal that he still cares, thus confusing them.

As I told someone before, there is no such thing as regarding a female as "friend" for a male, especially attractive ones. For a male to befriend a female, the female has to attract the male first for him to even consider it.

I am not sure about the culture in this game, but the relationship development from first met -> attracted -> sex -> break up -> get back together -> make up sex -> threesome in 2 weeks in warp speed in my books.

 

[felicemastronzo]

The problem here is that MC is overly good to them even after friendzoning them. After kicking them to the curb, he's giving them the wrong impression and signal that he still cares, thus confusing them.

As I told someone before, there is no such thing as regarding a female as "friend" for a male, especially attractive ones. For a male to befriend a female, the female has to attract the male first for him to even consider it.

I am not sure about the culture in this game, but the relationship development from first met -> attracted -> sex -> break up -> get back together -> make up sex -> threesome in 2 weeks in warp speed in my books.

it is clear that MC has not given up, he clearly tells Josy (after doing it as a porter) and she reciprocates by stabbing him and saying that she is convinced that they would have been happy together ...


MC may be friend with Maya (difficult but possible), for a matter of gratitude, for having hosted him when he had nowhere to stay, but with Josy in no alternative reality ...

 

[Zirael Q]

The problem here is that MC is overly good to them even after friendzoning them. After kicking them to the curb, he's giving them the wrong impression and signal that he still cares, thus confusing them.

As I told someone before, there is no such thing as regarding a female as "friend" for a male, especially attractive ones. For a male to befriend a female, the female has to attract the male first for him to even consider it.

I am not sure about the culture in this game, but the relationship development from first met -> attracted -> sex -> break up -> get back together -> make up sex -> threesome in 2 weeks in warp speed in my books.

Well, my MC certainly didn't care about their problems, on my main route didn't see their scenes at all. It wouldn't make sense otherwise tbh

 

[Zirael Q]

So MC's birthday will be covered in 6th episode or in 7th ??

If I had to guess I'd say Ep 8, might be wrong tho

 

[Rinbael]

I just wonder how the scavenger hunt will be handled if you friend zone Maya and Josy are they still going to ask the MC for help? I know they plan to fake it but I don't see Quinn falling for it especailly since she doesn't like Maya and she can't afford more sisters joining.

 

[felicemastronzo]

I just wonder how the scavenger hunt will be handled if you friend zone Maya and Josy are they still going to ask the MC for help? I know they plan to fake it but I don't see Quinn falling for it especailly since she doesn't like Maya and she can't afford more sisters joining.

the girls are likely to ask MC for help (as friends are credible), not sexually ..

but the real question is whether the free tuition is real or not.

I take it for granted that Maya passes the scavenger hunt, but not that she gets the free tuition

 

[lemonfreak]

the girls are likely to ask MC for help (as friends are credible), not sexually ..

but the real question is whether the free tuition is real or not.

I take it for granted that Maya passes the scavenger hunt, but not that she gets the free tuition

There was talk of using a dildo for the blowjob task and as for the sex outdoors and threesome tasks, well, it doesn't say anywhere that there needs to be a man involved does it?

 

[Rinbael]

There was talk of using a dildo for the blowjob task and as for the sex outdoors and threesome tasks, well, it doesn't say anywhere that there needs to be a man involved does it?

I just don't see Maya agreeing to have sex outdoors and the threesome I suppose they will fake it with a dildo but I don't see Quinn being dumb enough to fall for it especially since she doesn't like Maya.

 

[lemonfreak]

I just don't see Maya agreeing to have sex outdoors and the threesome I suppose they will fake it with a dildo but I don't see Quinn being dumb enough to fall for it especially since she doesn't like Maya.

I meant getting another girl (Lily for example), 3 people is 3 people, regardless of gender. Loopholes ftw.

And for outside, they could use the garden at the HOTs sorority house.

 

[Rinbael]

I meant getting another girl (Lily for example), 3 people is 3 people, regardless of gender. Loopholes ftw.

And for outside, they could use the garden at the HOTs sorority house.

True but I know on the Maya Josy path they mention Lily and Ashley were also going to fake the tasks. I suppose Camila could help Maya and Josy but I still don't see Maya having sex outside or agreeing to a threesome so I guess their only option is to fake it.