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Wizard_Shiryuu

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I thought that ''this hypothesis'' was referring to Wizard_Shiryuu's comment. Also saying that the groundwork has been laid is just false
I wouldn't say false, it's a theory. But it won't happen and I know it. I just presented the most plausible sceneario in which it could happen.
It was a response to a specific part of Wizard's comment where they said that Maya would never be alone; I correctly pointed out that it is possible for Maya to end up alone based on actual events in the game. We know that Derek cheats in class and it is possible, albeit unlikely, that he could be kicked out of college. We also know that, based on the conversation with Derek in Chapter 5, the MC can still be interested in pursuing Josy or Maya separately after the threeway relationship has been rejected.

Those events could converge and force Maya to turn to Quinn. I don't think they will but your assertion that the groundwork hasn't been laid suggests illiteracy.
Yeah, it could happen, Derek would be the hardest but it could happen. We all know the story won't go there, though.

I've been predicting a separate M&J path since episode 3 and 4, it seems more likely with each passing episode.

Just a though (not originally mine, though). Does Derek cheat or is he truly a genius.
 

lemonfreak

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I wouldn't say false, it's a theory. But it won't happen and I know it. I just presented the most plausible sceneario in which it could happen.

Yeah, it could happen, Derek would be the hardest but it could happen. We all know the story won't go there, though.

I've been predicting a separate M&J path since episode 3 and 4, it seems more likely with each passing episode.

Just a though (not originally mine, though). Does Derek cheat or is he truly a genius.
You know what, it's entirely possible that he is, in fact, a genius who has figured out that the entire educational system is bullshit and decided to use his superior intellect to break it :unsure:
 

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but your assertion that the groundwork hasn't been laid suggests illiteracy
Yeah maybe you are correct on that part. I just don‘t play through routes when the possibilities are that low. (Derek being suspended) But that’s just me. Not gonna bother with outcomes I don‘t think are likely to happen
 

lemonfreak

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Yeah maybe you are correct on that part. I just don‘t play through routes when the possibilities are that low. (Derek being suspended) But that’s just me. Not gonna bother with outcomes I don‘t think are likely to happen
The Derek cheating aspect of the story (putting to one side Wizard's hypothesis that he really is a genius) is something that is largely unaffected by the MC; he's gonna cheat regardless, the only thing you affect is whether you join him in cheating which might also affect you (unlikely since that is a mini-game mechanic which can be turned off).

On a different note, sorry for the illiteracy comment, that was uncalled for and I have since edited my original comment :(
 
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I also don't buy into the whole 'Maya becomes a drug addict/prostitute' thing either... I just think it's not unlikely that either something very bad is going to happen to someone over the course of the story or we'll find out something very tragic about their past. Obviously, the most likely candidate for this is Bella, considering the locked room, her closed-off demeanor, and the MC's line in the library about 'if I knew then what I know now, I would have screamed for help' (paraphrasing, since I don't recall the exact line).

My wild-ass theory (which I'm sure I'll get mocked for) is that the locked room is a nursery. My crazy guess is that Bella and her husband suffered the loss of their child either by late-term miscarriage/stillbirth or infant death, the stress and shock of which broke their marriage (something I unfortunately have seen happen to two different couples personally). The husband left and Bella had a breakdown of sorts that has prevented her from accepting that her husband isn't coming back. This would be sufficiently 'dark' to warrant the disclaimer, but doesn't necessarily fit the library line completely (I never said it was perfect ;) ). The obvious 'Bella killed her husband and his remains are in the room' thing is too obvious and the axe is likely a red herring.
Actually that's not such a wild theory.
 

Pewdiepie9966

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On a different note, sorry for the illiteracy comment, that was uncalled for and I have since edited my original comment :(
Yeah that bothered me a bit since I thought that my english was well developed and I would be able to read between lines and come up with different outcomes based on actions. But yeah, I don‘t realize these paths because the ground for it is not solid enough. The possibility is just too low for me personally
 
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Bro I just hope you are wrong :HideThePain: Can't see anything good coming from Quinn's manipulation
Don't worry about it too much, it's just a theory. I try to build theories based upon dialogue in the game, but ultimately there's nothing to prove any of those theories because it's not a reality, it's a product of DPC's imagination. I think something is going to happen and I try to second guess the author based on the clues he drops, but ultimately we can't get into his head.
 
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Lightaces

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Ah. I thought those patches were just for bugfixes. That's much more reassuring though, my external drive can continue living a healthy life
Well I still have 300gb from 1.2 teraflops I think but in the partition from porn game just have 30gb or less xD
Y'all know you can delete the old versions, right? Saves are in a different folder, and aren't effected. For your hard drive, patch verse full download shouldn't make a difference. Now, your internet bandwidth, that's a different story, drive space shouldn't be an issue.
 

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Yes, obviously we can delete old folders. I don't know about you though but this isn't the only game I have downloaded. I'm gonna worry about drive space at some point lol
 

Lightaces

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Yeah, it isn't. We know it's not going to happen. The thing is... why tease with the possibility of something we know it's not happening? It takes all the tension from her storyline away, it's like a spoiler.
There's nothing to get. Maya has neither done nor will do anything to prostitute herself for Quinn's "restaurant".

THAT is what you don't get.
Who says it's not going to happen? Say her father finds out she's staying with Josy, blows up at her, including cutting her off financially, and Quinn witnesses it? Quinn would have to be a pretty lousy pimp to not try to leverage an emotionally desperate Maya at that point. And it could very well work - it certainly has worked on a lot of women in real life. It sets up just the kind of conflict you would expect from the guy who did AL.
 
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Lightaces

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Yes, obviously we can delete old folders. I don't know about you though but this isn't the only game I have downloaded. I'm gonna worry about drive space at some point lol
My point is, it doesn't matter if it is a full download or a update, your final folder is the same size.
 
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Wizard_Shiryuu

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Who says it's not going to happen? Say her father finds out she's staying with Josy, blows up at her, including cutting her off financially, and Quinn witnesses it? Quinn would have to be a pretty lousy pimp to not try to leverage an emotionally desperate Maya at that point. And it could very well work - it certainly has worked on a lot of women in real life. It sets up just the kind of conflict you would expect from the guy who did AL.
No NTR in this game. Easy as that.
 

Lightaces

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Why you so sure it won't happen? I find it perfectly possible plotwise that, at some point, Maya will decide to try it out because she sees that's her only way to stay in college. Even if that's not entirely true because there are always other options, she can be confused enough to be dragged in by Quinn and the other girls, or even angry enough for being left on her own (the final push given by the MC stealing Josie from her after showing her she likes boys too) to give it a go. In a normal situation she wouldn't take that step, but with a fucked-up state-of-mind and in a moment of need, everything is possible and her personality seems submissive enough to let herself go under such circumstances.
NTR claims? I don't think DPC would worry too much about that, more so if he does it near the end.
Precisely. Pimps prey on women in emotional distress. That's what they do. And an abusive parent is EXACTLY the kind of thing which can cause an otherwise smart, self-assured young woman to do something they wouldn't even consider otherwise.
 
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Whose heart do you guys think is gonna be the worst to break? My money's on Sage, she seems on paper like the person who would take it the best, but with Chad breaking up with her soon I don't think telling her you can't be together will go to well wit her. For me at least in theory and I don't know if I will change my mind, but I've pretty much narrowed down my choices to Maya or Jill, for reason that I won't ramble on at the moment.

But I was really really just starting to like Sage, in 2028 when this game eventually finishes I'll do a play through with her, but I think I'm on that shitty road of breaking her heart.
 

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But see, this is my whole point. Nothing about Maya presents the impression of someone who could stand up to Quinn's manipulation. I was an investigator for many years and for two of those years I traced runaways. I know a lot about how vulnerable people are sucked into nightmare's like prostitution, and with Maya it's almost like DPC has created the perfect victim. Everyone keeps going on about how she would never do that, but given the desperation of her situation I'm saying, based on what I know, that she would do that if written in accordance with her personality as presented in the game. I've had so many horrific conversations with parents and loved ones who sound exactly like so many people on this form and are so convinced that she would never do that. That's not true, she would.
I agree... to a point.

Maya obviously wouldn't WANT to turn tricks for Quinn, so if the question is ever put to her straight up she will clearly say no. But she has shown that she can rationalize her way into terrible decisions by downplaying the cost and overvaluing the upside, then refusing to re-evaluate as the situation devolves. Her pledge to the HOTs started innocently enough, but it keeps getting worse. Even though she thought about calling it off after it escalated to public and/or group sex, she couldn't actually go through with that.

So as much as I don't like it, I do think Maya could wind up feeling trapped into going along with Quinn's schemes under the right circumstances. But those circumstances are tricky. If you don't isolate Maya from her friends (Derek, Josy and the MC), I don't think she'll feel the despair needed to cross that final threshold. On the other hand if you crush her spirit too thoroughly, I think that rather than join Quinn's band, Maya would instead cave to her father and resolve to become the soulless 'good girl' she was supposed to be all along. (Which, in some ways, might be an even worse fate. Isn't this a pleasant topic?)

So while I agree that Maya is vulnerable to coercion and pressure, I think she's currently in a place where those feelings are still manageable. That could easily change (especially in routes where the MC rejects her and still pursues Josy). In that event, it's even money which way Maya would turn when she breaks.

None of this, of course, should be read as my personal desire; I'm firmly in favor of Maya getting some heavy character growth and patching up her life once and for all. But I definitely worry about what could happen to her.
 
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