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Vollezar

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felicemastronzo said:
it's a million dollar question ...

it is not known, it is not known if there is a path for Maya and Josy individually (probably yes), it is not known if this path can be accessed even after we have been accepted in the triangular relationship (unlikely).

my idea is that Maya and Josy, whether we're in a relationship with both of us or just friends, will break up at some point (not always, but it can happen), and that this will be a highly dramatic point in the story
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It kind of felt like, to me at least, there will be some drama in their relationship. That something might not work. For Maya being with a guy is a new thing and it's not starting on all that great of a note. And Josy seems to be torn between the two but leaning more to being with Maya. And at the same time she got hurt by Maya, now they are sort of back together but there is also a guy in between them. A guy important enough that Maya seems to have fallen for him. So now Josy is confused and is unsure of everything. I kind of feel like that she might realize that she is not happy with sharing someone she loves with someone else.
 
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Vollezar said:
It kind of felt like, to me at least, there will be some drama in their relationship. That something might not work. For Maya being with a guy is a new thing and it's not starting on all that great of a note. And Josy seems to be torn between the two but leaning more to being with Maya. And at the same time she got hurt by Maya, now they are sort of back together but there is also a guy in between them. A guy important enough that Maya seems to have fallen for him. So now Josy is confused and is unsure of everything. I kind of feel like that she might realize that she is not happy with sharing someone she loves with someone else.
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there are essentially two reasons that make me think it might be like this.

the first is "of an economic nature": DPC must in any case write the break between the two in the "friends only" route, if the couple does not break there could not be only Mc's route with one of the two, and it will most likely be a dramatic moment (in reality there are also couples who break up in a serene way, but it would be a missed opportunity). once the scene has been made it is cheaper to use it for the other path as well, the reasons would be valid anyway.

the other reason is plot: between the problem of free tuition, the looming danger of Maya's father, without a large participation of MC the couple I don't see how it can last, if they went on peacefully it would be really uninteresting, at that point they would just disappear from the main plot

I also believe that a happy ending for Maya and Josy could be there, but essentially as a negative ending for MC in case he gets into trouble with the two girls.
 
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I can't disagree with that.

But in DPC's defense, he's a one man show. Any time he spends ironing out a translation is time he doesn't spend making the actual game. If he were willing to accept a machine-translation level of quality, or if there was already a well-established pipeline to translate this sort of game, the time involved might be small enough to justify it. But I can't blame him for not wanting to develop that pipeline from scratch when he's already waist deep in a massive project.
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Yeah, that's why I said I can understand him. It's just that I feel he still could do it and that would be awesome for all of us. My only 'blame' is that he uses the time excuse when actually it's only a money issue (that's what money is for, to buy yourself the time you don't have). But if he just doesn't want to do it, that's fine. Still a pity, though.
 
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moskyx said:
Yeah, that's why I said I can understand him. It's just that I feel he still could do it and that would be awesome for all of us. My only 'blame' is that he uses the time excuse when actually it's only a money issue (that's what money is for, to buy yourself the time you don't have). But if he just doesn't want to do it, that's fine. Still a pity, though.
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I'd agree that it's a shame that translations are generally an after thought in English AVNs, but I feel you've misconstrued the wasted time bit:
DPC FAQ said:
Q: Can I translate the game for you into my language?
A: No, thank you. I'm not looking to hire or collaborate with translators. I tried that in the past and it wasted too much time without anything to show for.
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He tried getting translations done, but they failed to deliver. I take this to mean working with flaky translators was the waste of time, not translations per se.

DPC is a control freak at the best of times, so not surprising he's not pursuing translations after a bad experience.

Though you make an excellent point that hiring professional translators would solve that, no idea what that would cost though. Then you're more in the realm of your money point - is there sufficient demand to make professional translations profitable and worth the time and effort to manage.
 
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Meushi said:
I'd agree that it's a shame that translations are generally an after thought in English AVNs, but I feel you've misconstrued the wasted time bit:

He tried getting translations done, but they failed to deliver. I take this to mean working with flaky translators was the waste of time, not translations per se.

DPC is a control freak at the best of times, so not surprising he's not pursuing translations after a bad experience.

Though you make an excellent point that hiring professional translators would solve that, no idea what that would cost though. Then you're more in the realm of your money point - is there sufficient demand to make professional translations profitable and worth the time and effort to manage.
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A real pro localization is expensive, that's for sure. From what' I've read, there's usually a couple of people translating the texts, then another 2-3 people for proofreading and betatesting to check they didn't break anything. I couldn't find any info about fees but I guess if you want to go all formal this is not cheap at all. But I'm sure there's a middle ground between his bad experiences with fake translators and a pro studio, as I know there are groups of serious people who work as a studio but just for fun, making some quality fan-translations for free. Yeah, you have to find them (or trust them when they reach to you) so it takes some time, but how much time could it be compared with the time spent looking and dealing for suitable music? If there's a will there's a way, especially when you're making some money from this. But it's obvious here the will is lacking due to his control freak natural impulses and his bad experiences.

Which leads me to your point about how translations are not a planned thing in most cases.
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anyone know name game, the mc living with his mom then his aunt coming and then the mc playing around with his aunt got caught by mom and got kicked out from the house. i play it before but i forgot the name of the game, oh yes i remember the mc have an maid that he can fuck. sorry for my poor english
 
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ojijang77 said:
anyone know name game, the mc living with his mom then his aunt coming and then the mc playing around with his aunt got caught by mom and got kicked out from the house. i play it before but i forgot the name of the game, oh yes i remember the mc have an maid that he can fuck. sorry for my poor english
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You should take your question to the Recommendations and Identifications section. This is not the place to ask that sort of question.
 
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ojijang77 said:
anyone know name game, the mc living with his mom then his aunt coming and then the mc playing around with his aunt got caught by mom and got kicked out from the house. i play it before but i forgot the name of the game, oh yes i remember the mc have an maid that he can fuck. sorry for my poor english
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the visit?
 
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felicemastronzo said:
it's a million dollar question ...

it is not known, it is not known if there is a path for Maya and Josy individually (probably yes), it is not known if this path can be accessed even after we have been accepted in the triangular relationship (unlikely).

my idea is that Maya and Josy, whether we're in a relationship with both of us or just friends, will break up at some point (not always, but it can happen), and that this will be a highly dramatic point in the story
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I think (or maybe it's more hope) that there is a very good chance for the M&J relationship with the MC to work out. Mainly I just feel that it would not be right to dash people's hopes again the way they did in AL. It's not a conventional relationship and it would be difficult, but it's not like it couldn't work out if handled the right way.

Also, I feel like having the MC in that relationship with them would be better than him not being with them in terms of keeping them together. He honestly feels like he would have something a calming influence role in the relationship, that when they face difficulties, pressures, etc, him being there for them to offer support and advice as a romantic partner could help keep them grounded and level-headed. He somewhat did that already by being there for them at a moment when they needed such comfort, and it's what developed his relationships with each of them. Sometimes it felt like they slightly resisted this because of their conflicted feelings, but now that it's all out in the open and they're in something of a realtionship with each other, the MC can now really occupy that role of being the acnchor point of the relationship, to be a rock for both Maya and Josy.
 
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