VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[D2M3]

Ethics is the philosophical evaluation of morality.
Morality is the implementation.

And morality should always be re-evaluated by ethics, otherwise morality can take on unexpected exceptions.

As soon as pressure is built up in any way to influence a voluntary decision of another, there can no longer be any question of the person being able to make an unbiased decision. That person is no longer objective.

And Quinn has put Mona under massive pressure, made her downright afraid.

From Quinn's point of view, this is perhaps morally justifiable, and for players who identify more with Quinn, perhaps it is. They might ethically reconsider that given moral stance.

But for the others (I hope it is majority of people) it is morally and ethically not justifiable how Quinn deals with some girls.

Please don't misunderstand me. If a woman chooses prostitution voluntarily (without pressure, blackmail, etc.), that is legitimate for me. If not it is criminal.

The first two sentences there has a nuance that most humans never differentiate, and is actually the core principle of all ethics debates. So thank you for illustrating that in this context.

Whether the Quinn-pimped-college-prostitution is morally justifiable or not, however, is irrelevant. This issue has a legal side to it. Prostitution in all forms are illegal in almost everywhere in US, save parts of Nevada.

Each individual here can make their own judgement on the morality of Quinn's restaurant, but no one here can and even should dispute it's a problematic issue that will cause almost everyone in that sorority enormous amounts of pain down the road.

Because it is massively illegal.

 

[dalli_x]

The problem is, prostitution is illegal. In this case, it's an offense that would get everyone in that sorority, being a participant or not, expelled and then face legal action.
And coercion into prostitution has an actual name.
It's called being a pimp. And surprise, it's also illegal.
Even participating in it is illegal. It's a misdemeanor the first time, but if you get caught soliciting a prostitute a 2nd time, it's a felony offense in most states.

Warscared, I'm usually very entertained reading your over-the-top theory posts as they are comedy gold, but this time I'll have to disagree vehemently.

You just tried to equate a tall dude playing basketball with a pretty girl being a prostitute.

For real?

I had forgotten that prostitution is prohibited in many states of the USA. In Germany it is allowed.
The hookers even pay taxes.

 

[AchedCroissant]

Can you imagine choosing Quinn's restaurant on Sage's route would result in problems with her?

 

[Deleted member 2528490]

Can you imagine choosing Quinn's restaurant on Sage's route would result in problems with her?

Yes. Seems pretty intuitive.

 

[godkingxerxes]

Can you imagine choosing Quinn's restaurant on Sage's route would result in problems with her?

I don't see how it even comes out personally, the girls all want the DIK and aren't going to give that up.

But if it comes down to Sage vs Quinn and her restaurant. Bye Bye Sage. I said bye to Jill for screwing up the bar scene, I'll say bye to Sage if I lose the HOTs.

 

[moskyx]

We are talking about a world with at least 3 known currencies implemented at the same time, a world where the same teacher can teach both Maths and English in a college, a world where the co-signer of a student can dispose those funds at his own will, and I'm not going to go again in the whole 'legal base for Tybalt's case against MC' or the 'college/not college gym' discussions. I made that mistake some time ago but I've decided to refrain from making statements about how the legal system in that world would work because it will work just as DPC thinks it has to work (and be bent) to fit his story.

 

[Casmyr]

godkingxerxes bruh don't front. I spoke to Quinn and she said you only ever order leftovers from her menu

 

[Deleted member 2528490]

I don't see how it even comes out personally, the girls all want the DIK and aren't going to give that up.

But if it comes down to Sage vs Quinn and her restaurant. Bye Bye Sage. I said bye to Jill for screwing up the bar scene, I'll say bye to Sage if I lose the HOTs.

Its going to come out eventually. Thats basically what Quinn's story has been about so far. Cascading problems leading to the shit hitting the fan. I doubt its going to be like any of the girls going "Hey Sage, btw we've been running a whore ring in HOT". More like it leaks, gets revealed, or something happens to piss off Burke and Sage gets pulled in, or any other number of ways.

But once it come out. Sage gonna be piiiiissed if MC has been partaking in the restaraunt.

 

[Casmyr]

I was under the assumption that Sage knew about the prostitution ring? I gotta stop going to alcoholics anonymous and actually start paying attention to you guys

 

[AchedCroissant]

I don't see how it even comes out personally, the girls all want the DIK and aren't going to give that up.

But if it comes down to Sage vs Quinn and her restaurant. Bye Bye Sage. I said bye to Jill for screwing up the bar scene, I'll say bye to Sage if I lose the HOTs.

Well, I think I will start with the Sage Route without choosing the restaurant because I want to see if it will be different, I can't imagine Sage's reaction when she finds out that the other Hots have been fucking with her future boyfriend

Sage reaction

 

[skinnyft]

How the hell do you guys come up with so many theory's? what kind of drugs are you consuming? Meth? Coke? Weed?
What next? Mc smokes weed with quinn and riona in space?
Mayas Dad Is Mcs uncle
Derek is the lost son of Burke (bastard son)
KRJ is sage sister
Arieth is actually smart and have been deceiving everyone
Dereks graduating with tybalts toothbrush still in his arsee
And finally the secret locked closet , is actually Mc himself, the one whe are playing is a clone made by DPC

 

[AchedCroissant]

How the hell do you guys come up with so many theory's? what kind of drugs are you consuming? Meth? Coke? Weed?
What next? Mc smokes weed with quinn and riona in space?
Mayas Dad Is Mcs uncle
Derek is the lost son of Burke (bastard son)
KRJ is sage sister
Arieth is actually smart and have been deceiving everyone
Dereks graduating with tybalts toothbrush still in his arsee
And finally the secret locked closet , is actually Mc himself, the one whe are playing is a clone made by DPC

Done

 

[AchedCroissant]

Once again, I came across something while playing through.
It may be something, but it doesn't have to be anything. (I am detail crazy)

It looks like Josie is communicating with Tommy via cell phone.
These 2 scenes come right after each other.

I'll let the pictures do the talking. And I don't give any further comment.

Picture 1: Notice the orange background of Josie's cell phone.

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Image 2: The color of the wall behind Tommy.

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These scenes occur at the same moment apart from the fact that the one above only appears in the route of Maya and Josy

 

[Gladheim]

Once again, I came across something while playing through.
It may be something, but it doesn't have to be anything. (I am detail crazy)

It looks like Josie is communicating with Tommy via cell phone.
These 2 scenes come right after each other.

I'll let the pictures do the talking. And I don't give any further comment.

Picture 1: Notice the orange background of Josie's cell phone.

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Image 2: The color of the wall behind Tommy.

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I know where you are going, but honestly, except for the orange background I don't see anything that leads me to think about that.

 

[Deleted member 2528490]

I was under the assumption that Sage knew about the prostitution ring? I gotta stop going to alcoholics anonymous and actually start paying attention to you guys

Its unclear if she knows or not. But if she was in the loop, I figure Quinn would've been upfront about why they needed to do the Prep event instead of manipulating Sage to do it.

Well, I think I will start with the Sage Route without choosing the restaurant because I want to see if it will be different, I can't imagine Sage's reaction when she finds out that the other Hots have been fucking with her future boyfriend

Sage reaction

Doesn't Sage already know MC has been banging the HOTs (if your MC has been)? I remember someone saying that Sage at one point mentions something about girls talking to each other about that kind of thing. Implying she knows. But being fuckbuddies, she's alright with it or something.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Can you imagine choosing Quinn's restaurant on Sage's route would result in problems with her?

I can't imagine that the restaurant doesn't affect the story with Sage.

then whether or not mc is a client, i don't know, might have less of an impact.

Its unclear if she knows or not. But if she was in the loop, I figure Quinn would've been upfront about why they needed to do the Prep event instead of manipulating Sage to do it.


Doesn't Sage already know MC has been banging the HOTs (if your MC has been)? I remember someone saying that Sage at one point mentions something about girls talking to each other about that kind of thing. Implying she knows. But being fuckbuddies, she's alright with it or something.

If it's "amateur" sex, I don't think Sage has a problem with it.

in fact she pushes MC towards Quinn and blocks him every time MC talks about a sentimental involvement

 

[phill_leotardo]

How the hell do you guys come up with so many theory's? what kind of drugs are you consuming? Meth? Coke? Weed?
What next? Mc smokes weed with quinn and riona in space?
Mayas Dad Is Mcs uncle
Derek is the lost son of Burke (bastard son)
KRJ is sage sister
Arieth is actually smart and have been deceiving everyone
Dereks graduating with tybalts toothbrush still in his arsee
And finally the secret locked closet , is actually Mc himself, the one whe are playing is a clone made by DPC

I always love when someone comes and gets angry at those absurd theories, but there really isn't nothing you can do about it. One thing you'll notice is that times changes, every 3 months you'll see a new subset of users doing those theories. I remember when i started there was a lot of different people, after a while there was a new group and recently it changed again. The flat earth conspirators change, but the absurd theories don't. I think people just like to overthink low-end stories.

 

[skinnyft]

I always love when someone comes and gets angry at those absurd theories, but there really isn't nothing you can do about it. One thing you'll notice is that times changes, every 3 months you'll see a new subset of users doing those theories. I remember when i started there was a lot of different people, after a while there was a new group and recently it changed again. The flat earth conspirators change, but the absurd theories don't. I think people just like to overthink low-end stories.

Im not angry im just boarding the Train to stupidity

 

[Deleted member 2528490]

If it's "amateur" sex, I don't think Sage has a problem with it.

in fact she pushes MC towards Quinn and blocks him every time MC talks about a sentimental involvement

Oh yeah, I didn't mean she knew about MC ordering girls. I assumed when the girls talk about MC, they leave out the "and then he paid me for the sex" part unless they're in private with only girls from the restaraunt.

 

[Casmyr]

Oh yeah, I didn't mean she knew about MC ordering girls. I assumed when the girls talk about MC, they leave out the "and then he paid me for the sex" part unless they're in private with only girls from the restaraunt.

If word gets out my MC is paying for sex he'll have to drop out and go back to Steve begging for his job back