felicemastronzo

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Well, that will depend on the MC's choices. Like, in my two runs, I told Quinn to eat shit. So my MCs are aware of the restaraunt, but only that it exists. He doesn't know its populated with HOTs girls or anything else.


Wait, what? If the picture is of her mother and sister, then young girl obviously wouldn't look like Jill because she would look like her sister. You tend to look like yourself.
Mc basically knows, and even if he thought only Quinn was involved (not believable since he has plenty of clues about the other girls' involvement) in my opinion he should have told Sage (if he's interested in her of course), for example instead of warning Maya about how Quinn was "generically" dangerous, that was a way to try to put Quinn in her place for real,

in my opinion it's an obvious trap (and since it's part of the plot unavoidable)

the only defuse for this trap, would be the bitter surprise that even Sage is aware of it (for the drugs it's expressly said no, about the restaurant there's no completely univocal signal)
 

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MC could probably fit the entirety of Camilla's ass between his brows and his hairline.

We discuss plenty about the best looking girl, but who is the most attractive male character? Rusty? Jacob? Jamie?
come on we all know the answer! its Chad if the dude was straight he would be the Chad! instead he is just enjoying his power bottom Nick and his side bitch Troy like the true hero that he is!

Tommy if he was not such a depressive sensitive cunt!
Jamie is a good looking boy but truly unmanly!
Jacob seems attractive and most importantly honorable on how he sacrifices his private dik code or how he states he does not approve dissension on the Cathy issue!

Rusty is probably the 2nd most attractive dude due not just his physical attributes but also how mature and responsible he is with enough courage to allow others to make their mistakes but not enabling them either! His generosity also plays a part in here so we can never know how much is money plays into his strenghts the same way as Tybalt wealth plays against him!

Due to the fact that the thread is so large and I have not read everything, I may once again encounter resistance with the following question.

What if that is not Jill in the picture?

It could make sense that the picture shows Jill's mother and sister.

I could also be wrong.
just yesterday me and lemonfreak approached this this question!

it is always the fault of the DPC myth.

all in the foetal position waiting for the beating and trying to see behind every shadow the impending danger

p.s. the next Big Big Drama will be with Sage and related to the fact that MC knew about the restaurant (inevitable) and didn't tell her anything (inevitable)
she never asked! how can the MC be guilty of something that went under Sage nose for 2 years and the MC who is not in there for a month yet gets the blame? Sage knows for sure but just like Rusty in regards to the drugs she prefers not to know!

What Sage might not know is that its being forced or coerced against some of the girls unwillingness and that is where the moral problem arises!

if a strong guy plays football or a tall dude plays basketball what is wrong with it? the same for the girls they monetize their best assets aslong as its done of free will! Does not mean that a coach that tries to coerce a tall dude to join the basketball team is a criminal!
 
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she never asked! how can the MC be guilty of something that went under Sage nose for 2 years and the MC who is not in there for a month yet gets the blame? Sage knows for sure but just like Rusty in regards to the drugs she prefers not to know!

What Sage might not know is that its being forced or coerced against some of the girls unwillingness and that is where the moral problem arises!

if a strong guy plays football or a tall dude plays basketball what is wrong with it? the same for the girls they monetize their best assets aslong as its done of free will! Does not mean that a coach that tries to coerce a tall dude to join the basketball team is a criminal!
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If MC knows something that Sage does not, but should, he should warn her.

If she already knows it, it's a different matter, but anyway MC should warn her that something is going on in her sosority that could cause her trouble, and this beyond the ethical issue of the restaurant (being in a porn game I guess it's not the priority).
 

felicemastronzo

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Josy can be very direct and address Sage on this. Then Sage finds out and asks MC about it.

And now I think the MC decision comes into play.

Whether he just knew something and Josy confirms or if he snacked at the restaurant.
in my opinion, like Tybalt's slap, if Mc is a customer this may slightly worsen the situation, but i don't think it will be decisive.

no one but the girls of the restaurant themselves know that Mc is their customer, so only they can "report" him to Sage.

Josy doesn't know anything about it (neither about the restaurant nor about MC as a customer), and if she did, why would she tell Sage?
 

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The comparison is a bit misleading.
Forcing someone to play a game will not be punishable but morally questionable.
Forcing women into prostitution is punishable, morally and ethically questionable.
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If MC knows something that Sage does not, but should, he should warn her.

If she already knows it, it's a different matter, but anyway MC should warn her that something is going on in her sosority that could cause her trouble, and this beyond the ethical issue of the restaurant (being in a porn game I guess it's not the priority).
what a surprise the state butts in and people go to jail... does it solve the fundamental problem? no it never does all it does is crystallize a situation where the state that is useless gets an excuse to oppress and limit peoples personal choices!

But if the MC tells Sage that is insulting her intelligence, perhaps what will happen is forcing her to admit what she knew all along and people do not react well when being called on their bullshit! Its been going on for 2 years and Sage is not dumb she does not know because she does not want to know, her constant anti-rumors talk is probably already a denial mantra for her to try and keep her plausible deniability!

Prostitution can never be an ethical question, ethics only applies to your actions when nobody else is there to control/judge you! Ethics is the judgement you apply to yourself!
Its a moral question of whats more important freedom of choice or whatever excuse the autocrats find to limit your freedom, sure they will say safety or public health or whatever, buts its always an excuse!

the question that arises here and that is why i brought it up is how far is pressuring someone is legit, just like the coach Q believes she is doing whats best for her girls teaching them valuable skills and helping them play into their strengths! Since the social pressures and expectations are gender differentiated a basketball coach is the best example i got for what Q is doing!

Yes society will consider it wrong but that´s because society are a bunch of hipocrits that scream freedom for women and then decide to remove their choices! Not much of a choice if you do not get the skills either way, just like a basketball player being tall is not enough the same goes for women being attractive and young is not enough i mean it is but not if you wanna play on the billionaires league!

So yes my only concern is how legitimate is Q pressure towards Camilla Maya and Mona is acceptable? for Camilla it seems totally legit she goes in willingly! For Mona also she accepted it her reaction to Mona is because she must protect herself from the goody goody white knights! As for Maya the proposal was never even made! Only the legalist moral can be used to blame Q!

And i understand that in accordance with the society rules its illegal but i only concern myself with whats ethic and moral and if a law is unjust but endurable i will tolerate it but if its unjust and immoral then its my obligation to rebel against it since my tolerance makes it unethical to my beliefs!

There is nothing wrong with prostitution for as long as there is no privation of freedom from those engaging in it, and this goes both ways because jailing dudes but not the hoes falls into this unjust bullshit!
 

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The impression is that the 5000$ is a very small amount, he can buy a couple of doses from Quinn if things go really bad... surely that check was put in Mc's hands to do something with it, but I don't think it's enough to solve Maya's problem...
If you remember correctly for the MC's birthday, the DIK's gave him a new phone and a year coupon for Pink Rose. Now, I could be mistaken but I believe the value of a year coupon for Pink Rose was around 20 game dollars. Derek seemed pretty shocked by that amount as it was a LOT of money to them. With that being said, I would assume 5000 game dollars would be an astronomical amount of money. I think it could actually be more than enough to solve Maya's problem.
 

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If you remember correctly for the MC's birthday, the DIK's gave him a new phone and a year coupon for Pink Rose. Now, I could be mistaken but I believe the value of a year coupon for Pink Rose was around 20 game dollars. Derek seemed pretty shocked by that amount as it was a LOT of money to them. With that being said, I would assume 5000 game dollars would be an astronomical amount of money. I think it could actually be more than enough to solve Maya's problem.
the VIP pass is worth 10$, but in the game it is full of different currencies depending on the colour and the situation

that the $5,000 is a "normal" amount is said directly by Neil and MC, who are the two poorest characters in the game, who don't have a TV in their house and who are surprised that there are cars with air-conditioning

straight from MC's head:
mc "(It's not enough to make big changes in my life, but it will definitely help...)"
 

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If you remember correctly for the MC's birthday, the DIK's gave him a new phone and a year coupon for Pink Rose. Now, I could be mistaken but I believe the value of a year coupon for Pink Rose was around 20 game dollars. Derek seemed pretty shocked by that amount as it was a LOT of money to them. With that being said, I would assume 5000 game dollars would be an astronomical amount of money. I think it could actually be more than enough to solve Maya's problem.
Money amounts doesn't follow any logic. In this case, the Pink Rose VIP pass is aligned with the repair minigame, and those amounts have nothing to do with game's "pocket money" nor with MC's inheritance
 
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the VIP pass is worth 10$, but in the game it is full of different currencies depending on the colour and the situation

that the $5,000 is a "normal" amount is said directly by Neil and MC, who are the two poorest characters in the game, who don't have a TV in their house and who are surprised that there are cars with air-conditioning

straight from MC's head:
mc "(It's not enough to make big changes in my life, but it will definitely help...)"
You are absolutely correct. That little thought MC had slipped my mind. My bad!
 

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I don't know if you know the saying. (A picture is worth a thousand words)

If it goes according to her last statement and it is mother and sister, but the little girl does not look like Jill, more questions arise.

I'm not going to ask any questions. Everyone should do that on their own.
She keeps pictures of people who are/were especially close to her. That's it. No mystery, no hidden meaning, no "questions" arising, it's just this simple.

If you remember correctly for the MC's birthday, the DIK's gave him a new phone and a year coupon for Pink Rose. Now, I could be mistaken but I believe the value of a year coupon for Pink Rose was around 20 game dollars. Derek seemed pretty shocked by that amount as it was a LOT of money to them. With that being said, I would assume 5000 game dollars would be an astronomical amount of money. I think it could actually be more than enough to solve Maya's problem.
No wonder Derek was shocked. $10 for a 1-year VIP pass to a strip club? That's fucking cheap. :ROFLMAO:
 

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come on we all know the answer! its Chad if the dude was straight he would be the Chad! instead he is just enjoying his power bottom Nick and his side bitch Troy like the true hero that he is!

Tommy if he was not such a depressive sensitive cunt!
Jamie is a good looking boy but truly unmanly!
Jacob seems attractive and most importantly honorable on how he sacrifices his private dik code or how he states he does not approve dissension on the Cathy issue!

Rusty is probably the 2nd most attractive dude due not just his physical attributes but also how mature and responsible he is with enough courage to allow others to make their mistakes but not enabling them either! His generosity also plays a part in here so we can never know how much is money plays into his strenghts the same way as Tybalt wealth plays against him!

just yesterday me and lemonfreak approached this this question!

she never asked! how can the MC be guilty of something that went under Sage nose for 2 years and the MC who is not in there for a month yet gets the blame? Sage knows for sure but just like Rusty in regards to the drugs she prefers not to know!

What Sage might not know is that its being forced or coerced against some of the girls unwillingness and that is where the moral problem arises!

if a strong guy plays football or a tall dude plays basketball what is wrong with it? the same for the girls they monetize their best assets aslong as its done of free will! Does not mean that a coach that tries to coerce a tall dude to join the basketball team is a criminal!
The problem is, prostitution is illegal. In this case, it's an offense that would get everyone in that sorority, being a participant or not, expelled and then face legal action.
And coercion into prostitution has an actual name.
It's called being a pimp. And surprise, it's also illegal.
Even participating in it is illegal. It's a misdemeanor the first time, but if you get caught soliciting a prostitute a 2nd time, it's a felony offense in most states.

Warscared, I'm usually very entertained reading your over-the-top theory posts as they are comedy gold, but this time I'll have to disagree vehemently.

You just tried to equate a tall dude playing basketball with a pretty girl being a prostitute.

For real?
 
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Ethics is the philosophical evaluation of morality.
Morality is the implementation.

And morality should always be re-evaluated by ethics, otherwise morality can take on unexpected exceptions.

As soon as pressure is built up in any way to influence a voluntary decision of another, there can no longer be any question of the person being able to make an unbiased decision. That person is no longer objective.

And Quinn has put Mona under massive pressure, made her downright afraid.

From Quinn's point of view, this is perhaps morally justifiable, and for players who identify more with Quinn, perhaps it is. They might ethically reconsider that given moral stance.

But for the others (I hope it is majority of people) it is morally and ethically not justifiable how Quinn deals with some girls.

Please don't misunderstand me. If a woman chooses prostitution voluntarily (without pressure, blackmail, etc.), that is legitimate for me. If not it is criminal.
The first two sentences there has a nuance that most humans never differentiate, and is actually the core principle of all ethics debates. So thank you for illustrating that in this context.

Whether the Quinn-pimped-college-prostitution is morally justifiable or not, however, is irrelevant. This issue has a legal side to it. Prostitution in all forms are illegal in almost everywhere in US, save parts of Nevada.

Each individual here can make their own judgement on the morality of Quinn's restaurant, but no one here can and even should dispute it's a problematic issue that will cause almost everyone in that sorority enormous amounts of pain down the road.

Because it is massively illegal.
 

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The problem is, prostitution is illegal. In this case, it's an offense that would get everyone in that sorority, being a participant or not, expelled and then face legal action.
And coercion into prostitution has an actual name.
It's called being a pimp. And surprise, it's also illegal.
Even participating in it is illegal. It's a misdemeanor the first time, but if you get caught soliciting a prostitute a 2nd time, it's a felony offense in most states.

Warscared, I'm usually very entertained reading your over-the-top theory posts as they are comedy gold, but this time I'll have to disagree vehemently.

You just tried to equate a tall dude playing basketball with a pretty girl being a prostitute.

For real?
I had forgotten that prostitution is prohibited in many states of the USA. In Germany it is allowed.
The hookers even pay taxes.
 
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