VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

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Kellermann said:
I'm not sure I understand everything, but yes it is curious that Bella keeps her wedding photo out and hides the other picture (if that is James). Didn't Bella say her parents died something like 10 years ago? That seems a pretty young age to die of natural causes. If Bella 25 then her parents might have been in their 50s? Also, very unusual for both parents to be dead. That makes one think that is was one "accident" :devilish: that killed them at the same time. :unsure:
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I did not know that dying under an attack from an axe was called natural causes :devilish:
 
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Kellermann said:
I'm not sure I understand everything, but yes it is curious that Bella keeps her wedding photo out and hides the other picture (if that is James). Didn't Bella say her parents died something like 10 years ago? That seems a pretty young age to die of natural causes. If Bella 25 then her parents might have been in their 50s? Also, very unusual for both parents to be dead. That makes one think that is was one "accident" :devilish: that killed them at the same time. :unsure:
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Now i know what i forget about her father death. (y)
 
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That's called "opinions" and it's one of the main issues of this thread. Too many self-righteous on this site take porn games so seriously that they resent the need to act like a moral paragon. They fail to understand that everybody don't share the same moral compass. Some people have issues with traits considered as vile and others don't but too many users here just projects their own moral considerations into a fucking porn game and try to make it sound universal. There is no such thing as moral objectivity and certainly not in an unrealistic porn game.

This whole "Quinn's fans are seeking excuses, M&J's fans are simps " bullshit is a pure representation of this misplaced self righteous values projection. Disliking a character is a thing but make personal and constant assertions on other fans about their own appreciation is just pure bigotry.

I'm always amazed that so many users get her feelings hurt by morally grey characters or cry a river for months about the whole M&J drama. It's just a porn game, people came for the pussy.

n0cn1l is right. The waifus war, the endless accusation towards respective fandom, the circling jerk around here... It's an endless time loop and we're all trapped here for eternity.
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Ok, but here is the thing. For one side you have a porn game, and that means a fantasy. Fantasy had not the obligation to be morally right, but it has the obligation to be entartaining, and that a lot of times means that fantasies had to be morally wrong. Yet there is nothing wrong with that because is a fantasy (except that you are some sort of fundamentalist of any type).

But you also have a story. Nothing prevent anyone to judge that story like you judge any other story, and we all actually do that in this forum in many different ways. So even if that story also means a fantasy, its also some form of representarion of the world in wich we live. It was build from an understanding of that world and people will judge it and talk about it from their understanding of the world in wich they live. And by doing so they would do it from a moral code, and they will push their moral code.

I understand that people get sick of moral arguments because its a dense topic and we came here to relax. So i apreciate people who laugh and make jokes and who soften the mood, i also try to refrain myself to argue about moral topics. Yet is not true that moral codes don't build the way in wich we understand this story like any other story. And i dont mean people joking or choosing one playthrough, thats just fun. I mean the people who actually speak seriously about this story.
 
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Darkdevil66 said:
I'm always amazed that so many users get her feelings hurt by morally grey characters or cry a river for months about the whole M&J drama. It's just a porn game, people came for the pussy.
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Perhaps, but the people who stay here for the long haul are, IMHO, staying here for the characters and story as well.

BaDIK has good models (demon Jill aside) and great animations, but where it really shines is in the attention to detail and its ability to make us care about the characters. So yeah, porn game or not, character debates are fair game.

I'd certainly prefer if they remained civil, but alas, fans aren't called fans for our ability to move air.


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One way or another I firmly believe Maya's tuition and dad issues will be resolve by season end. Everyone (we players, MC, and Maya) all want resolution soon, just as we want some answers to the Bella mysteries and Jill's blackmail. These things cannot continue to drag on into a new season. Answers are required so new obstacles can be presented to our heroes.
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I can't say I share your conviction, but I'll be happy to share the dream!
 
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Ok, but here is the thing. For one side you have a porn game, and that means a fantasy. Fantasy had not the obligation to be morally right, but it has the obligation to be entartaining, and that a lot of times means that fantasies had to be morally wrong. Yet there is nothing wrong with that because is a fantasy (except that you are some sort of fundamentalist of any type).

But you also have a story. Nothing prevent anyone to judge that story like you judge any other story, and we all actually do that in this forum in many different ways. So even if that story also means a fantasy, its also some form of representarion of the world in wich we live. It was build from an understanding of that world and people will judge it and talk about it from their understanding of the world in wich they live. And by doing so they would do it from a moral code, and they will push their moral code.

I understand that people get sick of moral arguments because its a dense topic and we came here to relax. So i apreciate people who laugh and make jokes and who soften the mood, i also try to refrain myself to argue about moral topics. Yet is not true that moral codes don't build the way in wich we understand this story like any other story. And i dont mean people joking or choosing one playthrough, thats just fun. I mean the people who actually speak seriously about this story.
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Porn games have to be morally wrong? Are you sure you want to die on that hill? Most adult games avoid moral questions. You're never going to find a game that labels anything as rape or incest because no one will host it. That's why there are more step mothers and step sisters in games than there are in the real world. And even in those games it's always consensual. Almost no one will host a game involving true depravity and Patreon certainly won't fund one.

I'm not suggesting these games should be serious business because unless you're the developer they should be entertaining and that's it. But you're not likely to find anything involving rape, incest, pedophilia, necrophilia, zoophilia, etc. because even in game form most hosting refuses them.
 
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Kellermann said:
One way or another I firmly believe Maya's tuition and dad issues will be resolve by season end. Everyone (we players, MC, and Maya) all want resolution soon, just as we want some answers to the Bella mysteries and Jill's blackmail. These things cannot continue to drag on into a new season. Answers are required so new obstacles can be presented to our heroes.
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I strongly disagree. I can definitely see the situation with Maya's dad dragging late into the game mainly because it's the definitive drama that her route revolves around which also includes Josy as well. If that situation gets resolved by episode 8 then what will Maya and Josy's route revolve around?
 
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Ok, but here is the thing. For one side you have a porn game, and that means a fantasy. Fantasy had not the obligation to be morally right, but it has the obligation to be entartaining, and that a lot of times means that fantasies had to be morally wrong. Yet there is nothing wrong with that because is a fantasy (except that you are some sort of fundamentalist of any type).

But you also have a story. Nothing prevent anyone to judge that story like you judge any other story, and we all actually do that in this forum in many different ways. So even if that story also means a fantasy, its also some form of representarion of the world in wich we live. It was build from an understanding of that world and people will judge it and talk about it from their understanding of the world in wich they live. And by doing so they would do it from a moral code, and they will push their moral code.

I understand that people get sick of moral arguments because its a dense topic and we came here to relax. So i apreciate people who laugh and make jokes and who soften the mood, i also try to refrain myself to argue about moral topics. Yet is not true that moral codes don't build the way in wich we understand this story like any other story. And i dont mean people joking or choosing one playthrough, thats just fun. I mean the people who actually speak seriously about this story.
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Moral, amoral... The fact of the matter is that a lot of people think with their dicks.

Take Daenerys Fucking Targaryen for example: I knew the bitch was mental since the beginning of season 2. The majority of people overlooked the clear signs of her being just as psychotic as the rest of her inbred family. Why? Because boobs. And 3rd wave feminism, but that's a different can of worms I have no intention of opening right now...
 
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AchedCroissant

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Tserriednich'sNen said:
I strongly disagree. I can definitely see the situation with Maya's dad dragging late into the game mainly because it's the definitive drama that her route revolves around which also includes Josy as well. If that situation gets resolved by episode 8 then what will Maya and Josy's route revolve around?
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You know James is coming, but you don't want to accept that :devilish:
 
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InfiniteIgnorance said:
Porn games have to be morally wrong? Are you sure you want to die on that hill? Most adult games avoid moral questions. You're never going to find a game that labels anything as rape or incest because no one will host it. That's why there are more step mothers and step sisters in games than there are in the real world. And even in those games it's always consensual. Almost no one will host a game involving true depravity and Patreon certainly won't fund one.

I'm not suggesting these games should be serious business because unless you're the developer they should be entertaining and that's it. But you're not likely to find anything involving rape, incest, pedophilia, necrophilia, zoophilia, etc. because even in game form most hosting refuses them.
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Well if i have the hill then i have the high ground and as general Kenoibi said...

Porn game doesn't have to be morally wrong as i said, it's true, but there is nothing wrong if they do, and usually it makes them better. And i don't mean porn games, but fantasies in general. I will give you one example, incest. You said there are a lot of step mother and step sisters. Let's forget you are having sex with both the mother and the daughter. Why you think they are step-something in the first place?. They could be simple girls you met, and yet they re presented as steps. There is a reason there, and is simple: couse they are working the incest fantasy, just disimulated to make it less taboo than most people can support. I actuallyhave serious problems with thoose kind of characters even in games i like, couse i had a step-mother, and the thought of having sex with her makes me vomit. I dont judge other people, but there is defenetely a moral taboo there.
 
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