VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Holy Bacchus]

Whatever Man. I know if I'm wrong I won't cry about it, surely will feel less interest toward her,but you will be the one who will be disappointed , if she turn out to be not a virgin.

It doesn't really matter to me if she's a virgin or not, but the game has seemingly made it clear that she is and acknowledging that is what matters.

Jill is such a boring character. I would skip her parts if possible - I really don't think her character adds much to the game. Way too much discussion here about such a useless character.

Well, she was apparently added because DPC felt he needed her in the story, so I guess we've yet to see exactly why her character is so important.

speaking of shaving .. do you think josy's question will have different consequences based on the answer we give? it would be nice as a thing .. totally useless but, nice ..

Yes. Aside from this being a kink/fetish for some people, it could have a small impact for the M&J throuple if Josy grows back her pubic hair for the MC as Maya could be little bit bothered about their closeness that she would do that for him.

i definitely don’t understand the virgin obsession. And virgin sex is usually awkward and uncomfortable too

As it relates to Jill, whether she is or isn't is not an issue for me because I'd be fine with her being either, but what the game seems to be telling us, from both her personality, mannerisms, and her dating history, is that she is and I just don't see how she wouldn't be.

 

[Webleten]

normally I’d say no. But it really does seem to matter to many people that she is in fact a virgin.

Which I don’t really understand. Jade isn’t any less sexy or desirable because she slept with Burke. Neither is Isabella for sleeping with her husband or Sage with Chad. Or Josy or Riona and Camilla and all the other HOTs with all the dudes they have been with before.

i definitely don’t understand the virgin obsession. And virgin sex is usually awkward and uncomfortable too

It’s about wanting a woman to only have ever been “yours”

 

[ChipLecsap]

normally I’d say no. But it really does seem to matter to many people that she is in fact a virgin.

Which I don’t really understand. Jade isn’t any less sexy or desirable because she slept with Burke. Neither is Isabella for sleeping with her husband or Sage with Chad. Or Josy or Riona and Camilla and all the other HOTs with all the dudes they have been with before.

i definitely don’t understand the virgin obsession. And virgin sex is usually awkward and uncomfortable too

I agree, and not only that, and I know this is not an acceptable excuse - for some people you know who you are - but we already have the "first Time with a Boy " girl Maya. we already had all the awkward thing with her. We have an actual Story arc with her based on this. Ep 2 ,Ep 3, Ep 5, Ep 6,. with each episode one step closer. Jill would be just a Maya 2.0.

We have the Wild girl, Sage, We have the Ice queen Bella, We have the free spirited bisexual Josy, We have the first time with a boy, girl Maya. Jill must be different, she is the secret nymphomaniac, She was just waiting for the right person, the one with She can finally unleashes all her secret desire, that is why she always blushing, all the naughty thought in her head makes her Blush. "Shy in the streets, sexy in the sheets"- this one I would actually believe, not the virgin version.

 

[InfiniteIgnorance]

It’s about wanting a woman to only have ever been “yours”

She belonged to Adam And Eve before she belonged to you.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

I agree, and not only that, and I know this is not an acceptable excuse but we already have the "first Time with a Boy " girl Maya. we already had all the awkward thing with her. We have an actual Story arc with her based on this. Ep 2 ,Ep 3, Ep 5, Ep 6,. with each episode one step closer. Jill would be just a Maya 2.0.

But that's the thing, when we have 5 main LIs, they don't all have to be experienced with sex, or specifically, hetero sex. Maya's also slightly different in that it would seem that she wasn't a virgin in the sense that she had already been penetrated, likely by Mr Dildy, but she hadn't had a real cock. With Jill, she won't have been penetrated at all and that's the key difference. Also, Maya doesn't seem like she's all that shy about sex, she was just confused and conflicted in those first few episodes, but now that she's accepting this throuple, she seems quite ready and willing.

We have the Wild girl, Sage, We have the Ice queen Bella, We have the free spirited bisexual Josy, We have the first time with a boy, girl Maya. Jill must be different, she is the secret nymphomaniac, She was just waiting for the right person, the one with She can finally unleashes all her secret desire, that is why she always blushing, all the naughty thought in her head makes her Blush. "Shy in the streets, sexy in the sheets"- this one I would actually believe, not the virgin version.

And maybe that's it. Maybe that's her character trait, that she'll become less shy, more bold and daring, and she'll crave the MC's cock, and she can be all that after losing her virginity because this experience will open the floodgates of her libido.

 

[ZWCook]

This dialogue does not sound like it's the inner thoughts of a women hesitating because she doesn't want to loose her virginity. During this scene she seems to be hesitating for two reasons, moving too fast, and location (Bella's house).

 

[Holy Bacchus]

This dialogue does not sound like it's the inner thoughts of a women hesitating because she doesn't want to loose her virginity. During this scene she seems to be hesitating for two reasons, moving too fast, and location (Bella's house).

Of course it's "too fast", that's exactly what a nervous virgin who's admitted to being uncomfortable with the expected intimacy when dating would think in a moment like that. Also, it's "disrespectful" in her mind to be doing sexual things with him in someone else's house.

 

[ChipLecsap]

This dialogue does not sound like it's the inner thoughts of a women hesitating because she doesn't want to loose her virginity. During this scene she seems to be hesitating for two reasons, moving too fast, and location (Bella's house).

Exactly!!! 10.000 Like.

 

[ChipLecsap]

Of course it's "too fast", that's exactly what a nervous virgin who's admitted to being uncomfortable with the expected intimacy when dating would think in a moment like that. Also, it's "disrespectful" in her mind to be doing sexual things with him in someone else's house.

For someone who claim Jill's virginity is not a sacred to him, you having really hard time to admit the possibility of her not being one. .

 

[Holy Bacchus]

For someone who claim Jill's virginity is not a sacred to him, you having really hard time to admit the possibility of her not being one. .

Because that's not what the game is telling us. The problem here is not any personal preference on my part, it's that people are actively choosing to ignore what the game is indicating simply because they don't want her to be a virgin. It's not that I want her to be, it's that the game is strongly suggesting she is.

If this game made it more ambiguous, I'd say it could go either way. If this game made it clear she wasn't a virgin and people were saying she was, I'd be pointing out how she isn't. But this game is sending very strong signals that she is and the personal preferences of others are causing them to be blind to those signals.

 

[bluehound36]

it is only that lie that hands victory to MC: there was no fire.

Not just that, remember, he struck first and the MC has the option to punch him in what amounts to self defense and there were enough DIKs around as witnesses to back that up. Tybalt's a manipulative, rude, lying pussy and that's going to blow up in his face at some point in a later episode. Considering he's using tactics like that on Jill, yes, he's blackmailing her to likely date him and i'd imagine more than that with as creepy as he is. Nothing can actually be proven as the MC's fault since nobody saw him do anything wrong, the worst thereof being clogging a toilet with a rag.

 

[ChipLecsap]

Because that's not what the game is telling us. The problem here is not any personal preference on my part, it's that people are actively choosing to ignore what the game is indicating simply because they don't want her to be a virgin.

If this game made it more ambiguous, I'd say it go go either way. If this game made it clear she wasn't a virgin and people were saying she was, I'd be pointing out how she isn't. But this game is sending very strong signals that she is and the personal preferences of others are causing them to be blind to those signals.

No, No no no Fucking NOOO. That's HOW YOU PERSONALLY Interpreting it. at this point neither of us is right. but Everything you do is interpreting a scene in a way you want, and then there are others including me who interpreting differently. Simple is that.
The game implying that something Happened between Jill and Bella. What Assumption people make about it will not make it real until its confirmed .
and Jill being a virgin or not being a Virgin, at this point is just an assumption. Not a fact . at least, accept this.
and once it's confirmed we can all move on, and You can be happy if you were right. Until then it's just a theory, and others theory of her not being one is as legit as yours

 

[InfiniteIgnorance]

Obviously Jill's first sexual experience with the MC is going to be unbridled gangbang sex because we all know women go from prude to promiscuity in two seconds flat. I think some of you think porn is real.

 

[Petro28]

Not just that, remember, he struck first and the MC has the option to punch him in what amounts to self defense and there were enough DIKs around as witnesses to back that up. Tybalt's a manipulative, rude, lying pussy and that's going to blow up in his face at some point in a later episode. Considering he's using tactics like that on Jill, yes, he's blackmailing her to likely date him and i'd imagine more than that with as creepy as he is. Nothing can actually be proven as the MC's fault since nobody saw him do anything wrong, the worst thereof being clogging a toilet with a rag.

If you really want talk about who's right and who is wrong. MC and Derek are mostly in the wrong they both trespassed, Derek caused a mass panic with a fire alarm, and MC assaulted Tybelt by punching. MC and Derek should count themselves lucky for knowing Jill or for being a genuinely good person.

No, No no no Fucking NOOO. That's HOW YOU PERSONALLY Interpreting it. at this point neither of us is right. but Everything you do is interpreting a scene in a way you want, and then there are others including me who interpreting differently. Simple is that.
The game implying that something Happened between Jill and Bella. What Assumption people make about it will not make it real until its confirmed .
and Jill being a virgin or not being a Virgin, at this point is just an assumption. Not a fact . at least, accept this.
and once it's confirmed we can all move on, and You can be happy if you were right. Until then it's just a theory, and others theory of her not being one is as legit as yours

Both of you are right and wrong at the same time.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Not just that, remember, he struck first and the MC has the option to punch him in what amounts to self defense and there were enough DIKs around as witnesses to back that up. Tybalt's a manipulative, rude, lying pussy and that's going to blow up in his face at some point in a later episode. Considering he's using tactics like that on Jill, yes, he's blackmailing her to likely date him and i'd imagine more than that with as creepy as he is. Nothing can actually be proven as the MC's fault since nobody saw him do anything wrong, the worst thereof being clogging a toilet with a rag.

Mc has only to thank that Tybalt is a stupid, spoilt boy.
if he had accused Mc of what he actually did, ruining the preps fundraiser for a stupid joke, nothing could have redeemed him.

Wouldn't the slap Tybalt gave him have been more than justified by the situation? And after a slap there's no such thing as claiming self-defence...

MC and Derek intentionally damaged the DIKs mansion and ruined their party which was an important occasion anyway (with the risk of damaging Jill's piano).
it doesn't matter what he can prove or not because, apart from an extreme revenge, Tybalt has nothing to gain from actually suing MC

but DPC to make sure Tybalt had no chance stuffed his tale with unnecessary lies that make his version completely unreliable. and after his terrible "blackmail" Jill three times in a couple of days was with MC freely, once even in front of everyone, including Tybalt.

MC's enemies are some of the most harmless I've ever seen, I expect Vinny to attack him with water guns... very cold water

 

[Ilhares]

Obviously Jill's first sexual experience with the MC is going to be unbridled gangbang sex because we all know women go from prude to promiscuity in two seconds flat. I think some of you think porn is real.

One of my exes did precisely that. Sure, she blamed it on the alcohol, but once her floodgates were open, they were really open. Her call, her body and all that, but that was the end of us. Less because she was suddenly promiscuous, more because she lied about it. Once my trust is betrayed a relationship is over, regardless of the type of relationship.

 

[ChipLecsap]

Both of you are right and wrong at the same time.

So I half right ? , I take that . I'm usually wrong, so I happily take this being half right. THX

 

[Holy Bacchus]

No, No no no Fucking NOOO. That's HOW YOU PERSONALLY Interpreting it. at this point neither of us is right. but Everything you do is interpreting a scene in a way you want, and then there are others including me who interpreting differently. Simple is that.
The game implying that something Happened between Jill and Bella. What Assumption people make about it will not make it real until its confirmed .
and Jill being a virgin or not being a Virgin, at this point is just an assumption. Not a fact . at least, accept this.
and once it's confirmed we can all move on, and You can be happy if you were right. Until then it's just a theory, and others theory of her not being one is as legit as yours

And you and everybody else on this side are massively misinterpreting Jill's character.

She believes there are "unwritten rules" of dating and part of that is that on the 3rd you have sex, but she struggles to even say that to the MC, and she talks about how the dates were forced on her and that they "weren't enjoyable". So why would she have more dates with these guys after the first one? Does she really seem the kind of person who, if she got to the 3rd date with a guy she doesn't like, would just be like, "well, I guess we should have sex since it's the 3rd date"?

This isn't a personal interpretation, this is what Jill is actually conveying to us.

 

[Mesmerizet]

It's a very nice render, but to me, all I see is more blue balling. This may be the scene where the boob sucking/groping takes place (from the poll), but you know Jill is going to put a stop to that right quick. There is no way she is going to let her first time with MC be in a dirty pond or on the bug-infested, slippery grass. Jill ain't no Caroline.

Jill could still be blueballing as there's been nothing real with her in 7 episodes but Bella pretty sure there's going to be a full-on scene with her this episode.

 

[bluehound36]

MC assaulted Tybelt by punching.

No, you are incorrect on that. The moment Tybalt chose to slap the MC, he assaulted the MC and if the players choose to punch him back, that's called self defense. Legally, if you so much as place even a pinky on another individual without their permission, you've committed assault and the other person has the legal right to defend themselves in proportion to that. Tybalt slapped like a bitch and got decked for it one time that planted him on his ass. It's not the MC's fault that Tybalt obviously can't take a punch but can apparently dish out hits to other people he verbally abuses to boot.

MC and Derek are mostly in the wrong they both trespassed

I'd say good luck with proving that, Tybalt and company only saw him outside at the front gate as people were rushing outside. The MC and all the other DIKs can just claim they happened to be walking by.

Derek caused a mass panic with a fire alarm

Derek is the one who set off the fire alarm? Did anyone witness it? No evidence to support, then there's no crime. Hearsay doesn't work. If anyone gets in trouble, it'd be Tybalt for hitting another student first and right after insulting the MC. Since Chad already did similar, he could claim Tybalt was bullying him and then assaulted him so he had to defend himself. Since the MC walks away after that option of only hitting back once, that's called self defense. His ass is covered with the witnesses of that incident.