VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Kukipett]

there's no way that the eventual triangle with Jill and Bella won't end with a big big drama. of course without the need for it to turn into a thriller...

Jill is naive not because she wants to help MC, but because in order to do so she slips into blatant blackmail, which as Bella tells her, risks becoming endless, being manipulated by Tybalt who is certainly not a mastermind and basically believing everything he tells her

Accepting blackmail is more morally wrong than the crap Derek and MC pull.


and then decides not to fight for her anymore?

he does not decide to stop deceiving her, to commit himself seriously, to change his life, but he decides, eventually, to stop struggling to be with her.

I would say that at least the dilemma is wrongly posed.

It's not that Jill doesn't understand that Tybald will maybe go on with the blackmail, Bella and Jill have talked about it and Jill has said that she doesn't have a choice if she wants to help the MC.

When you face a blackmail it's easy to say fuck it and think you are smart, but if she refuse the MC will have huge problems and certainly be expelled from the college and have to pay for the rest of his life if not find himself in jail!

So her only hope is that Tybald will stop the blackmail if he realize that he will not get her in the end and that at that moment the situation will be normalized.

Accepting blackmail moraly wrong ?? what can you do to be moraly right facing that problem?

 

[The Pink Royce]

O btw what r the consequences of punching ass face aka Tybalt ?

I tried to leave and the bitch still slapped granted the MCs no Saint but come on now he was asking for it but from the jist of it all I kinda felt like I was pimping out Jill to the ass face so I backed off like a looser...so yea spoil me and I might change my save and punce the living shit outta him

There are consequences . People that think Jill is stupid well ... her intrest will lower to the point she wont
text you after Tybalts speech .

Bellas RP will also suffer although there is no scene that shows consequence
(-2RP for both Jill and Bella)

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Quinn is a well written character, don't get me wrong. DPC has done great work with her, I just don't care for her.

What he said .

How do Quinn fans justify her awful behavior towards Maya? Like there isn't any justification to why she does the things she does involving Maya other than her being an evil bitch.

Maya ? its not really evil . she just lied . what she did to Mona is bad . Seems that Rio/ Cami can take it
Mona tried and couldnt - and then she was being pushed and broke .

I am not sure what happened to her. Cami says she got signal - but that only means her phone is ok.
dont really care for her phone . Mona /Cami/Rio are few of characters that are always nice/friendly to MC
no matter his choices .

DPC give me Mona back .. oh and like dozen lewd scenes with her and Cami .

 

[Hermith]

I am not sure what happened to her. Cami says she got signal - but that only means her phone is ok.
dont really care for her phone . Mona /Cami/Rio are few of characters that are always nice/friendly to MC
no matter his choices .

DPC give me Mona back .. oh and like dozen lewd scenes with her and Cami .

I agree Mona, Camila and Riona are angels in disguise... sexy, lewd angels to be precise.

 

[Kukipett]

There are consequences . People that think Jill is stupid well ... her intrest will lower to the point she wont
text you after Tybalts speech

This only happens if you act like a DIK and take a picture of your dick, just like when you decide to fuck with Cathy in Bella's car.
In this game you need to think twice before doing something stupid just because it's fun!!

The great cleaning has begun, soon you will see more and more the consequences of what you did because it was fun

About Quinn what she did to Maya was nasty, she did it because she noticed that Maya was a bit stupid to believe that crap.
For Mona it's something else, she tried to help her by telling her to fuck with Burke to get a free tuition, Mona could not do it but we can clearly hear that she accepted to fuck for money but she couldn't fuck with an old guy.
So Mona Riona and Camilla have accepted prostitution and it's not just Quinn who is behind this, member of the college council are aware and maybe have instigated all this. It goes far beyond Quinn and some Hots.

 

[The Pink Royce]

This only happens if you act like a DIK and take a picture of your dick, just like when you decide to fuck with Cathy in Bella's car.

no if you take a dik pic and Josy + Sage will comment on it you'll make Jill cry (-RP)

if only one of them will comment she won't text you (-RP)
if you smash tybalts teeth or punch him she won't text you (-RP)

we talked about it yesterday game has a lot of check points with Jill .

IF you're a DIK she won't shower with you
if you're a dik you'll miss the chance for a kiss after date
if you wear a helmet you wont get dream scene with Jill
IF you being a prick in general she won't go out with you on your b-day
if you a DIK no fight for Jill
if you have not enough RP she won't call you during piano practice .

The great cleaning has begun, soon you will see more and more the consequences of what you did because it was fun

lets hope you're right .

Jill - romance playthrough
Bella - kink+romance
Quinn - if you like bad girls
Sage -if you want fuck buddy
M&J - if you like harems

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[Ottoeight]

no if you take a dik pic and Josy + Sage will comment on it you'll make Jill cry (-RP)

if only one of them will comment she won't text you (-RP)
if you smash tybalts teeth or punch him she won't text you (-RP)

we talked about it yesterday game has a lot of check points with Jill .

IF you're a DIK she won't shower with you
if you're a dik you'll miss the chance for a kiss after date
if you wear a helmet you wont get dream scene with Jill
IF you being a prick in general she won't go out with you on your b-day
if you a DIK no fight for Jill
if you have not enough RP she won't call you during piano practice .



lets hope you're right .

Jill - romance playthrough
Bella - kink+romance
Quinn - if you like bad girls
Sage -if you want fuck buddy
M&J - if you like harems

Rightly said. You couldn't have explained it better than this.

Some people just won't understand that the DIK path is the funniest gameplay BUT you shouldn't play it if you want to hook up with the main girls except Sage.

If you're interested in Sage, Quinn & the HOTs (Heather too!) go with the DIK path;

if you're interested in Jill, Maya and Josy you must go with the CHICK path;

if you're interested in Bella, you'd better choose the CHICK path and avoid the teachers.

 

[EmperorGus]

no if you take a dik pic and Josy + Sage will comment on it you'll make Jill cry (-RP)

if only one of them will comment she won't text you (-RP)
if you smash tybalts teeth or punch him she won't text you (-RP)

Are you sure about those -RPs being tracked for text message? As in, you've seen them in the code?
I mean, RP don't show in game, so we only get a count on them from examining files.
Both guides I use when I feel the need show where +/-RP changes happen. And neither of them list an RP associated with the text message.

What *is* in one guide, but not the other, is a new " RPJill_Jelous +1" stat.
+1 for each girl (Josy, Sage) that comments on your dick pic.

 

[The Pink Royce]

Are you sure about those -RPs being tracked for text message? As in, you've seen them in the code?
I mean, RP don't show in game, so we only get a count on them from examining files.
Both guides I use when I feel the need show where +/-RP changes happen. And neither of them list an RP associated with the text message.

What *is* in one guide, but not the other, is a new " RPJill_Jelous +1" stat.
+1 for each girl (Josy, Sage) that comments on your dick pic.

oh no they dont . i meant to write you get -RP on top of her not texting you .
i think only 2 times your RP matter is during piano practice (almost sure about this one ) and birthday ?

edit : im not sure what Jelous do yet . you could be right that it isnt -RP but its Jelous instead
however im 100% sure you loose RP with Bella and Jill for punching horseface

 

[Pendrell]

The easy answer is, they don't care.

Maya fans won't like Quinn, because Quinn's behavior to Maya is inexcusable. Unlike Sage who misunderstands the situation as Maya not knowing Quinn's humor/style, we as the semi-omniscient audience know that Quinn is fucking with Maya without any concern for the damage she does.

Quinn fans simply don't care about Maya, and consider she is responsible for her own choices and behavior, and if she was naive enough to think all she had to do was pass the initiation and she'd get free tuition (which was her understanding), then she deserves all the shit that comes her way. I even have a bridge she might be interested in buying.

Then there are those (like myself) who enjoy all the characters for their merits and don't really concern myself with their short comings unless I find them too annoying. Quinn isn't annoying me, plus she's a very interesting character to pursue. In real life? Fuck no! But this is a no-consequences endeavor (it's just a game), and I want to ride Quinn out to see where it goes.

Agree with much of this. I'm a big Quinn fan and whilst I think there are reasons for her behaviour - some we've seen already, more will likely be revealed - I don't necessarily see a need, as a fan, to justify or defend her actions. She's been written, at least initially, as the "living definition of a bad girl" - that's literally how DPC describes her in her bio. As the dev said in one of the Q&As that means she is divisive, but for players who like that kind of character she is unmatched in the game. And it is just a game, so why not live out the fantasy of pursuing such a character?

 

[The Pink Royce]

Agree with much of this. I'm a big Quinn fan and whilst I think there are reasons for her behaviour - some we've seen already, more will likely be revealed - I don't necessarily see a need, as a fan, to justify or defend her actions. She's been written, at least initially, as the "living definition of a bad girl" - that's literally how DPC describes her in her bio. As the dev said in one of the Q&As that means she is divisive, but for players who like that kind of character she is unmatched in the game. And it is just a game, so why not live out the fantasy of pursuing such a character?

i can respect that .

and i do feel Quinn needs more love from fanbase . her story is something i keep an eye on
it also makes Being a DIK little less ( you know ) college drama .

 

[Entertainer33]

Agree with much of this. I'm a big Quinn fan and whilst I think there are reasons for her behaviour - some we've seen already, more will likely be revealed - I don't necessarily see a need, as a fan, to justify or defend her actions. She's been written, at least initially, as the "living definition of a bad girl" - that's literally how DPC describes her in her bio. As the dev said in one of the Q&As that means she is divisive, but for players who like that kind of character she is unmatched in the game. And it is just a game, so why not live out the fantasy of pursuing such a character?

Thank you. I love Quinn as well, she's an interesting character. In real life I would want nothing to do with her, but this is a fantasy where I can chase the bad girl.

 

[always86]

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Quinn is a well written character, don't get me wrong. DPC has done great work with her, I just don't care for her.

Agreed DPC has done a great job. Quinn is the lynch pin of the story, at least at this stage. Everyone else basically has personal drama which only really effects them (Maya and Josy Are a slight exception). Quinn is impacting lots of others with her actions, making her appealing despite, at this stage, being the protagonist is really important. In a lot of ways I think she should have been a full Love Interest.

How do Quinn fans justify her awful behavior towards Maya? Like there isn't any justification to why she does the things she does involving Maya other than her being an evil bitch.

Well, Quinn is a sexually liberated person. (Or at least pretends to be).
Maya is naive and Quinn likes pressing buttons. The only thing ‘evil’ she does is suggest the free tuition exists. The only reason this is really ‘evil’ is because Maya is desperate for it, which Quinn can’t really know (though may not have changed her actions).

Yes Maya’s list involves a bunch of hyper sexual stuff, and there is a strong possibility Quinn would have blackmailed her with her proof, which certainly would have been evil, but that didn’t happen (yet). Maya also could have easily ‘nah, thanks though’. Maya desperation is as much a motivation as Quinn being a female ass hole.

 

[Tayr89]

I caught up with the current content for this game yesterday and I'm hooked... though not sure what I'm going to do inbetween now and the next update...

Does anyone have any games similar to Being a Dik that they can suggest as good time fillers until the next update?

ik it wasn't that long since the last update but does anyone have some kind of idea for when the next update will be released?

 

[Pennel]

In a lot of ways I think she should have been a full Love Interest.

Her not being an LI was a ruse. It stopped us from seeing how important she would become. The other LIs are very clearly main girls from the first episode, whereas Quinn was just an avenue to get some of the side girl scenes.

What actual difference is there between her and the main LIs? From a presentation standpoint she doesn't get in-game points and an end card after each chapter. However, the in-game points don't actually do that much to alter the game (compared to the DIK/Chick score). The end game cards are there for the players, and obviously aren't a thing for the characters.

So from the perspective of the MC, Quinn is just as much of an LI as all of the others. She just isn't presented as one to us, the players, by DPC to hide how important she would become as time goes on.

 

[Tayr89]

So from the perspective of the MC, Quinn is just as much of an LI as all of the others. She just isn't presented as one to us, the players, by DPC to hide how important she would become as time goes on.

I do wonder if there is something coming up (with her storyline) that will take her out of the picture (college or otherwise) which could be why she hasn't been designated as a LI.

 

[EmperorGus]

I do wonder if there is something coming up (with her storyline) that will take her out of the picture (college or otherwise) which could be why she hasn't been designated as a LI.

That.

With the shit she's been up to...
In the very least, I expect she's getting kicked from the HOTs and becoming a pariah amongst the DIKs & HOTs.
Gone from B&R is also pretty likely.
And, it's not a stretch to say she's going to jail.

 

[Pendrell]

Her not being an LI was a ruse. It stopped us from seeing how important she would become. The other LIs are very clearly main girls from the first episode, whereas Quinn was just an avenue to get some of the side girl scenes.

What actual difference is there between her and the main LIs? From a presentation standpoint she doesn't get in-game points and an end card after each chapter. However, the in-game points don't actually do that much to alter the game (compared to the DIK/Chick score). The end game cards are there for the players, and obviously aren't a thing for the characters.

So from the perspective of the MC, Quinn is just as much of an LI as all of the others. She just isn't presented as one to us, the players, by DPC to hide how important she would become as time goes on.

Good points. Also, the official guide says that certain answers during Quinn's hangout in ep 7 will "impress her" and "impress her more", which seemed a lot like RP+1 and RP+2, in all but name.

If you think about the conditions attached to unlocking content with a character, Quinn is developing into one of the more demanding. Getting her content in ep 7 is dependent on interlinked choices going back to at least ep 4 (the very definition of a "path"). Compare that to Sage, where basically she throws herself at you regardless of how many times you reject her! The distinctions between LI and Side Girl have become somewhat blurry, at best. Ultimately I agree that Quinn is a pursuable love interest even if she isn't identified as an LI (yet); the lack of end cards is irrelevant, to me.

 

[Tayr89]

the lack of end cards is irrelevant, to me.

I have to admit... I don't pay much attention to them :\ kinda because I just played through it and it feels more like a recap of the episode.

Good points. Also, the official guide says that certain answers during Quinn's hangout in ep 7 will "impress her" and "impress her more", which seemed a lot like RP+1 and RP+2, in all but name.

I didn't know this bit... it does make me wonder if at a certain point the MC can 'save' Quinn in some way but needs to have impressed her sufficiently to unlock the dialogue choices to make an impact.

Like if your in a relationship with Josy and Maya then she wants nothing to do with you

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[Niu6609]

Yes. I'm sure she had to put in some real effort to get to college and get a chance at doing better.
What does she do with that chance?
She immediately throws it away and begins repeating the sins of her father by dealing/pimping.
If it was just her own well being she was toying with, I guess that's her choice.
But she's not at all bashful about screwing with other peoples lives.
And the way she threatened Mona when she realized she didn't want to go through with it...

Success? Nah.
But she definitely deserves something...

A person's character is molded by their environment. This applies to many situations, and people often adapt to survive, hence survival of the fittest. While I'm not particularly fond of Quinn, I do believe that she isn't 100% to blame for her current behaviour. Given her scummy growth environment, she's seen more than most, and has probably had to deal with some sort of abuse, either mentally or physically, which in turn made her the person she is today. I'm of the belief that most of the things she's doing are influenced by her parents: drugs, prostitution, blackmail etc. I really hope we get more of her backstory in the future too, because it seems really complicated and might even make a lot of players turn to the Quinn side.

Stephen also says to Jade (when she's throwing shit at him and suggesting he has a crush on Bella), "That's ridiculous! I love you!". Needless to say, Jade does not reciprocate his sentiment.

Honorable mention, Chad actually says to Sage, "I don't love you." Fucking harsh!

Man, get Stephen's lying, cheating ass out of here! And bring Tyballs with him! We don't need 'em here!

Jill is sacrificing herself for MC's sake (in a stupid way, but that's the gist of it), and MC's response would be to stop fighting for her? basically since he has other girls anyway he decides not to waste his time on her anymore.

the premise of his reasoning is that he's behaving badly and ruining everything (especially if he's with Bella), the conclusion is that Jill is the problem, without her everything is fine

then it may well be that MC will confront her, apologise etc... but I don't like the way the question has been put.

Well, from another perspective, the MC could feel like he's troubling Jill too much, and that he might lead Jill down the wrong path if she likes him and he falls in love with her. Additionally, Jill DID tell him that he had to stay away from her, so it could be considered as respecting her wishes. Ultimately, though, it comes down to whether you actually like Jill or not, so all of these are still excuses in a way.

I do wonder if there is something coming up (with her storyline) that will take her out of the picture (college or otherwise) which could be why she hasn't been designated as a LI.

I haven't thought about it this way yet. Slightly scares me about what's to come.

 

[Pendrell]

I have to admit... I don't pay much attention to them :\ kinda because I just played through it and it feels more like a recap of the episode.



I didn't know this bit... it does make me wonder if at a certain point the MC can 'save' Quinn in some way but needs to have impressed her sufficiently to unlock the dialogue choices to make an impact.

Like if your in a relationship with Josy and Maya then she wants nothing to do with you

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Yeah, this is my working assumption. I think she will be saveable, but the price will be high, as well as having all the necessary flags.