always86

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What strikes me as curious is why DPC decided to start fiddling with binaries etc etc now.
Wouldn't a more opportune time be after chapter 8 that's also a season ending?

If it was my project to manage and the Devs decided to come up with something for this for whatever they're developing I'd agree with the necessity but I'd push it forward.
Psychologically I think it'd be better.
It'd shorten time to release of an awaited goalpost (Chapter 8 in this case) and give more leeway as you can always point to new season coming up that'd take more time. His customer wouldn't have to wait extra time for him playing around with things that doesn't really affect the product.

This feels like a classic developer seeing something new and shiny they want to shoehorn in as soon as possible to try out and then finding reasons to do it.
I do agree with what he's wanting to do. I just feel that the timing of it is unsound from a business perspective.

That said, he isn't working a normal project in a normal business so it's a moot point really.
It still bothers my inner project manager :D
While i'm perfectly willing to critise DPC for many reasons, I think this is probably not the right one. Firstly just in straight rendering time we know at best he has a couple of weeks left and probably more than that. In other words he has time to code things while the visuals are still being prepared. This actually seems like quite sensible project management to me.

Secondly regardless of the actual time it takes and if it fits with the rendering time, it seems to me it has to be ready to go live when episode 8 is published. Firstly he needs to know the system works ready for episode 9 and secondly he needs to make sure the saves bringing over thoasands of choice combinations work.

Imagine if he releases 8. People play for 10-20 (or more) hours getting all thier saves played through, ontop of saves that are already for 20+ hours of content for episode 1-7. Then when he wants to release episode 9 having to come out and say "I'm introducing this save transfer system, but it won't work on your existing saves because of certain changes I had to make, so you're going to, at the very least, have to replay 8 from saves that you probably haven't kept from 7 with this new patch".

Much better he get's everything in place and working now, than risking any issues trying to add it in later as an after thought.
 
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Room639

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Over six months for this release. The game is good, but it's getting ridiculous.

Let's say the game is halfway complete - it could be even longer. We're looking at 4 more years before we have a resolution to the story. There's two major issues with that:
1) 4 years is a long time to hold an audiences attention, no matter how good the game is.
2) There isn't really that much doubt and uncertainty in this story to last for 8 more episodes. If you add a new story line then it devalues the first two seasons. You'll need new characters, the universe expands, and everything that has been established becomes a bit watered down. If you run with what you have then it will become tired. How many times can you fuck the same characters before it loses its appeal? How long can you draw out the same dramas before people stop caring?

Ultimately, we have to assume that the MC will have to pick one of the main girls to settle with. Four more years waiting to see what happens? They're good characters, but it's hard to be that invested in any of them to hold out that long. Hell, the story is excellent, and that might not even be enough to keep people for four years.

And this is all assuming development times don't continue to increase, which they have from the start. We thought they would never take more than 5 months. We thought we would get faster development times once he got improved hardware. They continue to stretch.

DPC has a great game, but he's trying to make too much of a good story. A tightly-wrapped 12 episode story that progressed a bit more quickly (and avoided some of the filler scenes and mini-games) would have been more timely and easier to keep an audiences attention. Did we really need to wait for dev time on a new phone. For this new tetris-lite game? Of course not.

Does he really need to code the whole thing on his own? Would anyone (other than DPC) be upset or think less of the guy if he hired someone to help and episodes came out every 4 months? Of course not.

We waited over five months for the last episode, which was solid, but not great. Now we're waiting over six months for this one. Imagine being a Patreon supporter and paying $30 a month, only to wait 6 months for an episode. $180 bucks for one edition is mental. Spend your money how you want, but people will find it harder to justify with longer wait times.

It's a good game - maybe my favorite - but the pace of development is not sustainable. We might not see an ending until early 2026. Let that sink in for a minute. The culture moves on. New games will be developed and capture people's attention. People will lose interest.
 
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always86

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Over six months for this release. The game is good, but it's getting ridiculous.

Let's say the game is halfway complete - it could be even longer. We're looking at 4 more years before we have a resolution to the story. There's two major issues with that:
1) 4 years is a long time to hold an audiences attention, no matter how good the game is.
2) There isn't really that much doubt and uncertainty in this story to last for 8 more episodes. If you add a new story line then it devalues the first two seasons. You'll need new characters, the universe expands, and everything that has been established becomes a bit watered down. If you run with what you have then it will become tired. How many times can you fuck the same characters before it loses its appeal? How long can you draw out the same dramas before people stop caring?

Ultimately, we have to assume that the MC will have to pick one of the main girls to settle with. Four more years waiting to see what happens? They're good characters, but it's hard to be that invested in any of them to hold out that long. Hell, the story is excellent, and that might not even be enough to keep people for four years.

And this is all assuming development times don't continue to increase, which they have from the start. We thought they would never take more than 5 months. We thought we would get faster development times once he got improved hardware. They continue to stretch.

DPC has a great game, but he's trying to make too much of a good story. A tightly-wrapped 12 episode story that progressed a bit more quickly (and avoided some of the filler scenes and mini-games) would have been more timely and easier to keep an audiences attention. Did we really need to wait for dev time on a new phone. For this new tetris-lite game? Of course not.

Does he really need to code the whole thing on his own? Of course not.

We waited over five months for the last episode, which was solid, but not great. Now we're waiting over six months for this one. Imagine being a Patreon supporter and paying $30 a month, only to wait 6 months for an episode. $180 bucks for one edition is mental. Spend your money how you want, but people will find it harder to justify with longer wait times.

It's a good game - maybe my favorite - but the pace of development is not sustainable. We might not see an ending until early 2026. Let that sink in for a minute. The culture moves on. New games will be developed and capture people's attention. People will lose interest.
I won't address everything you say. I think it is fair to say he needs to make sure he is balancing the size and legth of updates with the time they take to produce. It's also apparent that he has set events he has pre planned and they need to be built to, to some extent. I think we're all used to these games having 3-6 updates a year and being finished in two or three, but I think it's also fair to think of this more like a TV show. You get 12-24 episodes of TV every year, thats around 4-8 hours of a sitcom and 9-18 hours of a drama. DPC at the current rate is making 10-12 hours a year of porn visual novel on his own.

I think one thing he did in the previous episode that will help with this is skipping days. Doing this will allow him to reach events, such as halloween more rapidly without needing the minutia of day to day life.

Worth noting as well that he has 1 week until the same release length as episode 6, and he also was off to a slowish start with this episode having taken I think 3 weeks after the previous release to patch, work on the guide and take some time off, which is a longer gap that previous episodes.
 

drakken

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Wow man nice job with this walkthrough, how is this not the official walkthrough, why the dev didn't contact you this is waaaay better than the official...
Because dpc wants you to play the game how he wants you to. Otherwise "it ruins the game" :rolleyes:

What strikes me as curious is why DPC decided to start fiddling with binaries etc etc now.
Wouldn't a more opportune time be after chapter 8 that's also a season ending?

If it was my project to manage and the Devs decided to come up with something for this for whatever they're developing I'd agree with the necessity but I'd push it forward.
Psychologically I think it'd be better.
It'd shorten time to release of an awaited goalpost (Chapter 8 in this case) and give more leeway as you can always point to new season coming up that'd take more time. His customer wouldn't have to wait extra time for him playing around with things that doesn't really affect the product.

This feels like a classic developer seeing something new and shiny they want to shoehorn in as soon as possible to try out and then finding reasons to do it.
I do agree with what he's wanting to do. I just feel that the timing of it is unsound from a business perspective.

That said, he isn't working a normal project in a normal business so it's a moot point really.
It still bothers my inner project manager :D
I could be completely wrong, but it sounds like DPC is writing a custom save file format to serve as an interface between episode 1-8 and episode 9-onward. If I'm correct, he absolutely has to do this now, because you can't add it in episode 9, because episode 9-onward is basically a new game that simply imports the relevant game state from said save file (which is not the standard Renpy save) to play the rest of the game.

If he were to implement this purely from episode 9 onwards, he would have to write a routine to import the standard Renpy save from episode 8 manually and parse out the relevant bits. I never worked with Renpy, so I don't know its internals, but processing a Renpy save might be more complicated and error prone than what he is planning on doing now.

So, from developer standpoint, I can see why he is doing what he is doing.
Like alri said, now would be the perfect time because the prep work needs to be in ep8/season 2 end. It would be the logical conclusion to release it with it already there so that season 3 can pick up and go.
 

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Over six months for this release. The game is good, but it's getting ridiculous.

Let's say the game is halfway complete - it could be even longer. We're looking at 4 more years before we have a resolution to the story. There's two major issues with that:
1) 4 years is a long time to hold an audiences attention, no matter how good the game is.
2) There isn't really that much doubt and uncertainty in this story to last for 8 more episodes. If you add a new story line then it devalues the first two seasons. You'll need new characters, the universe expands, and everything that has been established becomes a bit watered down. If you run with what you have then it will become tired. How many times can you fuck the same characters before it loses its appeal? How long can you draw out the same dramas before people stop caring?

Ultimately, we have to assume that the MC will have to pick one of the main girls to settle with. Four more years waiting to see what happens? They're good characters, but it's hard to be that invested in any of them to hold out that long. Hell, the story is excellent, and that might not even be enough to keep people for four years.

And this is all assuming development times don't continue to increase, which they have from the start. We thought they would never take more than 5 months. We thought we would get faster development times once he got improved hardware. They continue to stretch.

DPC has a great game, but he's trying to make too much of a good story. A tightly-wrapped 12 episode story that progressed a bit more quickly (and avoided some of the filler scenes and mini-games) would have been more timely and easier to keep an audiences attention. Did we really need to wait for dev time on a new phone. For this new tetris-lite game? Of course not.

Does he really need to code the whole thing on his own? Would anyone (other than DPC) be upset or think less of the guy if he hired someone to help and episodes came out every 4 months? Of course not.

We waited over five months for the last episode, which was solid, but not great. Now we're waiting over six months for this one. Imagine being a Patreon supporter and paying $30 a month, only to wait 6 months for an episode. $180 bucks for one edition is mental. Spend your money how you want, but people will find it harder to justify with longer wait times.

It's a good game - maybe my favorite - but the pace of development is not sustainable. We might not see an ending until early 2026. Let that sink in for a minute. The culture moves on. New games will be developed and capture people's attention. People will lose interest.
I'm curious to learn exactly how much time goes into every aspect of the game. I'd love to see a breakdown by percentages. In particular how much time is spent on mini-games and other so called filler.

Like you, I hate the longer wait times, but one thing I don't agree with is DPC subcontracting out the coding (or anything else). He does a great job on his own. As soon as you start increasing the number of chefs in the kitchen, problems arise. DPC is a man who works best solo. I can only imagine the frustrations of trying to first explain everything to a newbie then having to continually check/revise their work. Not to mention the real danger of a programmer flaking out mid-production when his cat dies, he gets Covid, he doesn't feel like working at 100%, etc. What a nightmare. I see nothing but increased production times when I look at team developers on F95 vs. solo developers. Lack of manpower isn't slowing down DPC, it's his own unquenchable need to go bigger and include more every episode.
 

lemonfreak

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I could be completely wrong, but it sounds like DPC is writing a custom save file format to serve as an interface between episode 1-8 and episode 9-onward. If I'm correct, he absolutely has to do this now, because you can't add it in episode 9, because episode 9-onward is basically a new game that simply imports the relevant game state from said save file (which is not the standard Renpy save) to play the rest of the game.

If he were to implement this purely from episode 9 onwards, he would have to write a routine to import the standard Renpy save from episode 8 manually and parse out the relevant bits. I never worked with Renpy, so I don't know its internals, but processing a Renpy save might be more complicated and error prone than what he is planning on doing now.

So, from developer standpoint, I can see why he is doing what he is doing.
It sounds like what VI did with Fetish Locator where each week (currently two with a third planned) is a separate download with the ability to carry over your old save (or re-create it, Witcher 3 style).

It works well except for morons who don't actually read the instructions (at the end of week 1 you're told to save here which is apparently too complicated for them :LOL:)

DPC needs to have the most realistic flames ever created when burning your LIs to a crisp

:devilish::devilish::LOL::ROFLMAO:
Nah, he needs super realistic water effects for the drowning scene :eek:
 
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For the better part of this week, I wrote code and performed quality assurance for the episode by playtesting and polishing art, code, and dialogue.

I have now added music and sound effects for most of the episode, and I still need a few more songs for specific scenes.

I started working on a big coding task that I have hinted about in the past, and today it's a good time to share some details on it.

Because the game is getting pretty big, and Ren'Py is getting pushed to its limits in some areas, I want to make a new binary for Season 3.

What this means is that after you have completed episode 8, and thus Season 2, you will save your game in a menu and continue your game using another .exe/.app file.

Making a new binary has the added benefit that the initial episodes for Season 3 will have a smaller download size, and you shouldn't have to redownload Season 1 and 2 every update.

If you're getting confused by this, think of this as the same game, only sliced into another part.

Season 1 and 2 will be one separate download. And Season 3 and onward will be another download.

From a developer's standpoint, there are some challenges with this task. My goals are to make this system simple to use for all of you, robust in transferring saves, and functional for both Steam and Patreon. While I'm at it, I also want to trim some fat stored in the save files.

I have both the knowledge and strategy to do all of this, but it will take more time to implement and test it thoroughly as the game has thousands of variables that I want to control and double-check. I have already made good progress on this during this week.

Next week I will continue writing the remaining scenes and pose more static renders.

Have a nice weekend

Dr PinkCake
Oh. Well, that's alright then. :(

I was wondering if DPC was going to do this when he mentioned coding for the end of the season; it's probably the best option going forward, but it does seem like it's going to push our estimates to the pessimistic side. In theory, if DPC has finished the rest of the remaining writing/coding he can probably get most of this new system done while he waits for the last animations in the queue to render.

But it's hard to feel too confident in that. And the new system will need a lot of testing no matter what. At the very least, I think we need to assume at least 3 weeks of beta testing this time. So I'd say the extremely imprecise estimated release window now starts on November 12 and extends into December.

No real numbers to add, so I'll just repost last week's charts for the sake of completeness.
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Tybalt is most disgusting character in this game IMO..
What do you guys think? can we get rid of this basterd?? Adter 3rd date??
Hope dev is not planning any NTR
 

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I'd be interested to get some form of a behind-the-scenes from DPC. Money doesn't solve every problem, but it definitely helps. I'm wondering what is taking so long (both up until this point and probably the next month or two until it releases.) Surely there is more talent that could be recruited to push the development he speaks of?

Granted - I'm not a developer, but this seems to be an ongoing problem of each update taking progressively longer to release, a common problem with a smaller team that either isn't hiring, or doesn't have a solid plan.

In no way do I mean to detract from the game or the work itself. This is one of the top, top games by a huge margin. I'm just very curious as to what is causing this exactly.
 

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Tybalt is most disgusting character in this game IMO..
What do you guys think? can we get rid of this basterd?? Adter 3rd date??
Hope dev is not planning any NTR
Maybe Jill's ending includes a nice cuckoholding session with Tybalt banging her while the MC watches from a corner, jerking off and crying like a little bitch?:unsure:

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I have both the knowledge and strategy to do all of this, but it will take more time to implement and test it thoroughly as the game has thousands of variables that I want to control and double-check. I have already made good progress on this during this week.
That sounds just like me on my junior year, somehow then I managed to completely fuck up a json parsing feature, commit directly to the dev branch and making almost every jenkins build fail for 2 days straight :KEK:

I don't mean to throw any shade at DPC but he sure does sound quite confident, I just hope he delivers in a reasonable timeframe.
 

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Am I the only one that thinks a 150,000+ post thread is not the way to do things?

Also, the download links are useless. I tried multiple times to download the splits using Nopy and Mega and I keep getting corrupted image rpa's. Was trying a torrent but there's only a dozen or so seeds and i really don't feel like waiting 6 hours.

Oh well, this might be the best game ever, like the reviews say, but I'll never know. Done are the days I waste hours of my time trying to "fix" things in a game.
There really should be a separate thread for all this discussion, and then this thread is just there for update posts, but it is what it is.

The good thing with all the posters here is if you post a question, it'll be answered.

But if you're ever looking for the latest update post, just go to the top of the page, and click on N7's name, just under the thread title, and then click on messages count. You'll then see a summary of his posts of which his latest status update for this game is usually near the top.

Not sure why you're having download issues, I've downloaded hundreds of gigs through here and not once was there a corruption (I mean no file corruption, there was plenty of other corruption :sneaky:).

I've always used Mega where possible, and I've installed the MegaSync app. Sounds like there may be an issue on your end...

When we are happy and DPC come with something new
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Anyone else lingered on this GIF wondering how far her shirt would rise up? :sneaky:

Over six months for this release. The game is good, but it's getting ridiculous.

Let's say the game is halfway complete - it could be even longer. We're looking at 4 more years before we have a resolution to the story. There's two major issues with that:
1) 4 years is a long time to hold an audiences attention, no matter how good the game is.
2) There isn't really that much doubt and uncertainty in this story to last for 8 more episodes. If you add a new story line then it devalues the first two seasons. You'll need new characters, the universe expands, and everything that has been established becomes a bit watered down. If you run with what you have then it will become tired. How many times can you fuck the same characters before it loses its appeal? How long can you draw out the same dramas before people stop caring?

Ultimately, we have to assume that the MC will have to pick one of the main girls to settle with. Four more years waiting to see what happens? They're good characters, but it's hard to be that invested in any of them to hold out that long. Hell, the story is excellent, and that might not even be enough to keep people for four years.

And this is all assuming development times don't continue to increase, which they have from the start. We thought they would never take more than 5 months. We thought we would get faster development times once he got improved hardware. They continue to stretch.

DPC has a great game, but he's trying to make too much of a good story. A tightly-wrapped 12 episode story that progressed a bit more quickly (and avoided some of the filler scenes and mini-games) would have been more timely and easier to keep an audiences attention. Did we really need to wait for dev time on a new phone. For this new tetris-lite game? Of course not.

Does he really need to code the whole thing on his own? Would anyone (other than DPC) be upset or think less of the guy if he hired someone to help and episodes came out every 4 months? Of course not.

We waited over five months for the last episode, which was solid, but not great. Now we're waiting over six months for this one. Imagine being a Patreon supporter and paying $30 a month, only to wait 6 months for an episode. $180 bucks for one edition is mental. Spend your money how you want, but people will find it harder to justify with longer wait times.

It's a good game - maybe my favorite - but the pace of development is not sustainable. We might not see an ending until early 2026. Let that sink in for a minute. The culture moves on. New games will be developed and capture people's attention. People will lose interest.
It's been going for almost 3 years already and it's only gaining more and more traction.

I've used this analogy before, but it makes perfect sense to me:

Game of Thrones went for 9 years (8 seasons and the last season took 2 years). A season of GoT is somewhat equivalent to an episode of BaDIK.

If you waited until all the episodes were out and then binged the season, that's a 10 hour binge each year and then you have to wait for another entire year.

Same shit happens with this game except there are two releases a year, and the replayability factor is high, so arguably 10-20 hours of entertainment a year isn't a stretch.

You may lose interest, just like some people may have lost interest in GoT, however by the end of GoT they had record viewership.

This game has pretty much sat at or near the top of this sites rankings for its entire life. A lot of games have been inspired by it but none of them are coming close.

DPC's Patreon subscribers keeps trending upward.

The format of each episode, with the snippets from previous episodes to refresh your memory, the prologue setting the tone for the new episode, the fully fleshed out story arc for the episode and then the epilogue to tie it all in together is a winning formula.

If you consider how much work goes into this game, compared to how much work goes into the other games showcased here, there's very little chance that it's going to fade away.

Really it just comes down to one thing:

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I'd be interested to get some form of a behind-the-scenes from DPC. Money doesn't solve every problem, but it definitely helps. I'm wondering what is taking so long (both up until this point and probably the next month or two until it releases.) Surely there is more talent that could be recruited to push the development he speaks of?

Granted - I'm not a developer, but this seems to be an ongoing problem of each update taking progressively longer to release, a common problem with a smaller team that either isn't hiring, or doesn't have a solid plan.

In no way do I mean to detract from the game or the work itself. This is one of the top, top games by a huge margin. I'm just very curious as to what is causing this exactly.
Each episode takes a little longer because it's a little bigger. I don't believe there are any behind the scenes development problems.

If you look at mpa71's statistics, you'll see that the trend is each episode has more images, more animations and is overall larger than the previous episode, but the time to develop the game, based purely on the time per GB, is now trending down.

At some point I believe he purchased 8 off RTX3090 video cards, and they immensely changed render times, and DPC has been learning new techniques that improve quality or efficiency.

The biggest issue is his own ambition, he's a crazy motherfucker who just wants to add more each time. More animations, more music, more renders, more runtime.
 
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I'd be interested to get some form of a behind-the-scenes from DPC.

Instead of a behind-the-scenes making of BaDIK, what about behind the scenes of BaDIK itself? I think it would be pretty entertaining if DPC did outtakes starring the virtual actors after he's completed the game.

Imagine learning the is actually very intelligent, and she ad-libbed many of her scenes ("Not everyone is a rock scientist" sent the actress playing Quinn into a laughing fit). Or that Dawe and the MC were best friends, and Dawe kept trying to get the MC to break character. Everyone would call the actress playing Lynette "Mom" on the set, even though she was the second-youngest there. No one could agree on the pronunciation of "Tybalt" (is it "TIBB-alt" or "TIE-balt?). During the after-tennis shower scene, MC reached over to grab a boob, but the actor playing Stanley was there instead. In fact, that could be a running joke on set. When is supposed to sneak into the HOTs shower with the MC, the curtain flies open and the MC sees Stanley standing there, ready to go.

I think it could be a fun, short project for DPC between BaDIK and his next project.
 

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Instead of a behind-the-scenes making of BaDIK, what about behind the scenes of BaDIK itself? I think it would be pretty entertaining if DPC did outtakes starring the virtual actors after he's completed the game.

Imagine learning the is actually very intelligent, and she ad-libbed many of her scenes ("Not everyone is a rock scientist" sent the actress playing Quinn into a laughing fit). Or that Dawe and the MC were best friends, and Dawe kept trying to get the MC to break character. Everyone would call the actress playing Lynette "Mom" on the set, even though she was the second-youngest there. No one could agree on the pronunciation of "Tybalt" (is it "TIBB-alt" or "TIE-balt?). During the after-tennis shower scene, MC reached over to grab a boob, but the actor playing Stanley was there instead. In fact, that could be a running joke on set. When Melanie is supposed to sneak into the HOTs shower with the MC, the curtain flies open and the MC sees Stanley standing there, ready to go.

I think it could be a fun, short project for DPC between BaDIK and his next project.
That would be pretty funny, Quinn's "actress" being all considerate and nice in "real life".

The whole idea makes me think of the outtakes in "A Big's Life" or "Toy Story".
 

Mr. Hero

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Any news about next update? I cant wait to see that what happened with that tybalt bastard after all of these...any news or leaks guys?
 

Room639

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It's been going for almost 3 years already and it's only gaining more and more traction.

I've used this analogy before, but it makes perfect sense to me:

Game of Thrones went for 9 years (8 seasons and the last season took 2 years). A season of GoT is somewhat equivalent to an episode of BaDIK.

If you waited until all the episodes were out and then binged the season, that's a 10 hour binge each year and then you have to wait for another entire year.

Same shit happens with this game except there are two releases a year, and the replayability factor is high, so arguably 10-20 hours of entertainment a year isn't a stretch.

You may lose interest, just like some people may have lost interest in GoT, however by the end of GoT they had record viewership.
This is really the example you want to use? GoT - the greatest embarrassment in entertainment of the decade? A show where the plot became too large and had many loose ends at the end? One that was criticized for unnecessary and irrelevant aspects that took away from the central plot line?

Did people continue to watch? Of course. Were there obvious flaws and legitimate criticism from the half-way point on to the end? Yes. Was a it a successful story? Of course not. Was it a great piece of entertainment? Not at all.

The pace of BaD isn't the only emerging flaw, nor the only one I brought up (though it is a significant flaw). The scope of the game with a (currently) limited character base and plot lines, straying from the story with mini-games, and unnecessary inclusions (such as tennis and DnG) that delay prodcution time are also a factor.

The best part of this game is the story- and, to be clear, the main story line is GREAT. The more that DPC strays from that (and the longer it takes to produce it), the harder it will be to justify the delays in production.
 
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