felicemastronzo

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I didn't put an opinion about M&J individually because we still don't know if there really are individual paths, but if there are, the answer to Derek may be the way to close them.
So far the only hint towards an individual path is the first scene of chapter 7 in the DIK mansion with Josy, where if we tell Derek that we still have feelings for Josy she very "nicely" rejects us saying that she is not going to cheat on anyone anymore.
and here again you are right.

the individual path for now exists more in the minds of the players than in the game, a few sentences with Josy, very vague hints with Maya
 

ename144

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Why the f*ck are search results not sorted by date... -.-"
It actually CAN sort by date... if you tell it to. Go to your account preferences and find the Search Options section:
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Why the default search order is neither date nor relevance is simply one of those mysteries we may never understand.


Don't know about that, he already manage to make patch updates we could simple keeping applying them. To me this is not a developer decision since it coud start breaking saves and also need time and effort to make it right but a business decision to make more money on steam, new exe means a new game and not a DLC. DPC following EA footsteps, thats just my opnion tho I could be wrong.Anyway...hope everything goes smooth and we can enjoy the game
But in a few years that would require non-steam players to daisy chain a bunch of patches to get the latest version of the game. That's probably a much worse headache than biting the bullet now and splitting the game into manageable chunks.

I don't think this is a money grab. That said, there is one potential wrinkle: if Episode 9 is going to be effectively a standalone update for Patreon, does that mean DPC will not be able to offer an "update only" version for the $5 tier? Or would he need to make the update version require a Season 2 save file to play? Or will that no be a problem since Steam won't sell the competing product until the end of Season 3, at which point the update will be distinct from the full season?

It will be interesting to see how he handles that part, based on the way Steam usually restricts access to low-cost alternatives.


While i'm perfectly willing to critise DPC for many reasons, I think this is probably not the right one. Firstly just in straight rendering time we know at best he has a couple of weeks left and probably more than that. In other words he has time to code things while the visuals are still being prepared. This actually seems like quite sensible project management to me.

Secondly regardless of the actual time it takes and if it fits with the rendering time, it seems to me it has to be ready to go live when episode 8 is published. Firstly he needs to know the system works ready for episode 9 and secondly he needs to make sure the saves bringing over thoasands of choice combinations work.

Imagine if he releases 8. People play for 10-20 (or more) hours getting all thier saves played through, ontop of saves that are already for 20+ hours of content for episode 1-7. Then when he wants to release episode 9 having to come out and say "I'm introducing this save transfer system, but it won't work on your existing saves because of certain changes I had to make, so you're going to, at the very least, have to replay 8 from saves that you probably haven't kept from 7 with this new patch".

Much better he get's everything in place and working now, than risking any issues trying to add it in later as an after thought.
Indeed. Plus, the longer DPC waits to implement this, the more variables there will be that could need transferring. The sooner he starts on this the better. I guess that might change if we expect DPC to wrap up a whole bunch of loose ends soon; in that case he might no longer need to track some of the old variables. But I'm certainly not betting on that. :p

(That said, who would be foolish enough to have overwritten their Episode 7 saves? If Cathy's panties didn't teach you to use multiple save slots, I'm don't think bugs in the save import feature are going to be your biggest problem!)


I'm curious to learn exactly how much time goes into every aspect of the game. I'd love to see a breakdown by percentages. In particular how much time is spent on mini-games and other so called filler.

Like you, I hate the longer wait times, but one thing I don't agree with is DPC subcontracting out the coding (or anything else). He does a great job on his own. As soon as you start increasing the number of chefs in the kitchen, problems arise. DPC is a man who works best solo. I can only imagine the frustrations of trying to first explain everything to a newbie then having to continually check/revise their work. Not to mention the real danger of a programmer flaking out mid-production when his cat dies, he gets Covid, he doesn't feel like working at 100%, etc. What a nightmare. I see nothing but increased production times when I look at team developers on F95 vs. solo developers. Lack of manpower isn't slowing down DPC, it's his own unquenchable need to go bigger and include more every episode.
Well, it does seem like DPC himself is one of the big bottlenecks; the art for Episode 7 was ready nearly a month before DPC was able to finish coding/writing the game. So in theory having more manpower to handle those aspects could help.

But - and I cannot underscore this enough - throwing more bodies at a problem doesn't automatically improve the effective manpower available. In the short run it actually makes things worse since you need to train the newbies. But even in the long run it really depends on how well you can divide the load between different teams and how well those teams work together.

From everything I've seen about DPC, I think he would be a terrible manager, and it seems like he knows this. So I'm inclined to agree that keeping this a solo endeavor is probably the best bet. The long wait times suck, but they're the lesser evil.


The whole idea makes me think of the outtakes in "A Big's Life" or "Toy Story".
You know, normally I'd assume that's a typo. But given the circumstances I'm kinda hoping it's an obscure porn parody. :p


I wonder if it is possible to complete the game without having sex with anyone? Theoretically, yes. Jill's way is the way of abstinence for the sake of a single girl. I wonder if there were those who passed the game in this way?
It can be done easily enough (excluding dreams and the Zoey flashback), if you put your mind to it. But there's no particular payoff thus far. Honestly, I suspect there will eventually be a special ending for an MC who manages to avoid girls throughout the entire game, but it will probably be short and very tongue in cheek.
 

PashafromRussia

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I didn't put an opinion about M&J individually because we still don't know if there really are individual paths, but if there are, the answer to Derek may be the way to close them.
So far the only hint towards an individual path is the first scene of chapter 7 in the DIK mansion with Josy, where if we tell Derek that we still have feelings for Josy she very "nicely" rejects us saying that she is not going to cheat on anyone anymore.
Hints of Maya or Josy's individual path are already there. If, for example, we spend time with one of them, at the end of the episode it is noted that we have become very close to her. For example, after the Hots party in episode 7, we can refuse Josy a night out and thus keep the balance. I think after a while the fact that you spend time with one girl more than the other will affect.
But for me, I wonder if it is possible to return to the path of Josy or Maya on the path of Dick. In my opinion, yes. It's too early to close Maya or Josy's route. Josy says she turned him down because she was scared and that she still loves him. I think at some point there will be a rollback. Maybe even in the season 2 finale.
 

felicemastronzo

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Hints of Maya or Josy's individual path are already there. If, for example, we spend time with one of them, at the end of the episode it is noted that we have become very close to her. For example, after the Hots party in episode 7, we can refuse Josy a night out and thus keep the balance. I think after a while the fact that you spend time with one girl more than the other will affect.
But for me, I wonder if it is possible to return to the path of Josy or Maya on the path of Dick. In my opinion, yes. It's too early to close Maya or Josy's route. Josy says she turned him down because she was scared and that she still loves him. I think at some point there will be a rollback. Maybe even in the season 2 finale.
if you can refuse Josy it means that you are in the trouple, whether you can move from the trouple to an individual path is open to question, and it is even less certain that you can do so outside the trouple.

it is very likely that for the survival of the trouple there is a need to be careful to give the right balance in the relationship with both, but what will happen if things go wrong is a great mystery, the most obvious outcome is simply that they put Mc at the door.
 

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(That said, who would be foolish enough to have overwritten their Episode 7 saves? If Cathy's panties didn't teach you to use multiple save slots, I'm don't think bugs in the save import feature are going to be your biggest problem!)
I’ve got about 8 different unique play throughs. All of which I try to avoid the obvious traps on. For example no sharing the Jade video, no fucking Cathy unless on a DIK path, no photo on Tybalt‘s phone, (except on my neutral playthrough, to see if there are any real Jill consequences, loved the idea of Jill jealousy ‘points’ still haven’t gathered if they are really real).

One of the up and coming traps I think is Derick and Ashley. I think if you ‘help Derick get laid‘ with Penny(?) then get Ashley to go back to him, he’s going to cheat on her again and fuck it up.

I also don’t eat Ashley’s snatch on any play through‘s because bros before hoes etc.
 

Razrback16

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Hints of Maya or Josy's individual path are already there. If, for example, we spend time with one of them, at the end of the episode it is noted that we have become very close to her. For example, after the Hots party in episode 7, we can refuse Josy a night out and thus keep the balance. I think after a while the fact that you spend time with one girl more than the other will affect.
But for me, I wonder if it is possible to return to the path of Josy or Maya on the path of Dick. In my opinion, yes. It's too early to close Maya or Josy's route. Josy says she turned him down because she was scared and that she still loves him. I think at some point there will be a rollback. Maybe even in the season 2 finale.
I'm just hoping for a solo route with Josy for players who are not currently in their poly relationship.
 

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Sorry for changing the subject but I missed groping Jill in the shower. How does one accomplish this feat? Thanks in advance.
 

dalli_x

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Bella kinda looks like mc's...do you guys also think the same as me?? Can it be something like bella is mc's mother?? And she didn't die when mc born...she left for some reason??
I'll try to make the theory a little shorter and it will surprise you.

Isabella said in EP5 college review that she left friends behind.



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It has not been clarified yet how Isabella met Jill. Maybe the picture is the answer. And here it comes!

The girl to Lynette's right is either the Madame or maybe even Sage's mother. I don't really want to commit myself there. She's wearing the same necklace we saw on Isabella. A parting gift? The pattern and color of the dress, has also been the same, as a bedspread of Maya. Isabella looks at Maya very questioningly in EP7 and Sage is right next to her.

I'm going to name Stephen Burke, because of the girl to the left of Lynette. You guys are about to think I'm crazy. That's Jade according to my theory. It gets better. Jade is a Royce and not the mother Tybalt. Now you know how Burke and Tybalt got into the better circles. Jade also mentioned in EP3 if Stephen still loves Isabella. Childhood sweethearts? The connection is made. But I'll go one better. Josy is the daughter of Lana. There is a clue to this. When the MC takes the dildo helmet first at the beginning of Hell Week, some DIK says it looks like a unicorn. Unicorns are rare. Then in EP6, when Josy and Maya are on the phone wishing the MC a happy birthday, Josy is wearing a t-shirt with a unicorn on it. Who is the unicorn now? Maybe it's both of them. It doesn't matter if Lana is alive or not. (by the way, Maya wears a red shirt with a bear on it. It also says that she loves bears. In EP6 the MC said to Tommy that maybe he is a bear too). But why should Jade be a Royce now? Look at the clothes from the link and the screenshot. It is strange that Josy is wearing black and high heeled shoes like Jade on the same day. The size difference between Josy and Sage is almost the same when compared to the Lynette picture. Jill's concert is also in preparation, which she may also give in honor of Lana. So the anniversary of Lana's death is not too far away. Didn't Jill once say that she didn't know the circumstances of Lana's death?

I don't need to write anything about Lynette, do I?


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