VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[tlarsen]

hm? Jill is a student.

That's actually true my bad lol tho idk if she would go to a party like that also considering the fact Sage seems to not really like her or at least avoid her idk how she would feel about inviting her

 

[lipe2410]

Could you possibly explain who Palmer is? I'm sorry if it's an ignorant question but I'm not aware.

Palmer was a game dev. He made a good game called Daugther For Dessert. He passed away last year.

 

[SultanOfSwing]

Maybe you can try mine? No mod involved. Neutral affinity.

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Thank you so much!

 

[DavDR]

Could you possibly explain who Palmer is? I'm sorry if it's an ignorant question but I'm not aware.

He was a fairly well known Dev, though the only one of his games that comes to mind right now is Daughter for Dessert, I'm not usually into incest games but I really enjoyed that one.

 

[Jojeke]

Palmer was a game dev. He made a good game called Daughter For Dessert. He passed away last year.

I did not know that. May he RIP.
DFD was pretty good.

 

[JamieSadistic]

Palmer was a game dev. He made a good game called Daugther For Dessert. He passed away last year.

He was a fairly well known Dev, though the only one of his games that comes to mind right now is Daughter for Dessert, I'm not usually into incest games but I really enjoyed that one.

OH! Red Dress and the Daughter's friend do look very similar. Sucks the dev passed away though. RIP.

 

[ename144]

Let me just say this. A relationship should be built on respect and honesty. If you are in a relationship with someone, how would you feel if you found out that they had withheld information that directly impacted your life, and even worse you found out that the reason that they withheld the information from you was because they felt it was for 'Your own good'. Also you mentioned that you had concerns about Chad. But who has more right to your loyalty than the person that you share a relationship with? Would you really put some random Dude on the same level as your girlfriend?

My MC told Sage about the info that fell into his lap because she had the right to know. While common courtesy might make me keep a secret from the rest of the world my MC feels like his girlfriend has more of a right to his loyalty. Finally, my MC would never worry about what Sage would do with that info, because he trust her and knows that she will do the right thing.

Like I said, if I felt like I had to be open and honest with Sage, I tell her; that's generally part and parcel with wanting a real relationship with her (however convoluted the route to get there).

But as to your question, I'm sure I'd be pissed off if my hypothetical SO ever kept me in the dark for my own good. But at the same time, it's possible my SO was right. People can be pretty self-destructive at times. Just as I would expect my SO to trust me, surely I would have to extend them the same courtesy and at least consider WHY they kept me in the dark. Doesn't mean I'd agree with them (especially in the heat of the moment), but this is about more than just my feelings.

Plus, there's the added complication that in this case the MC isn't quite Sage's boyfriend yet, and now he'd be dropping a huge dime on her ex. If there was ever a time to step back and consider his motives carefully before telling her, this is it.

I guess I'm just saying I don't see a completely clear cut case even if you're romancing Sage. There are a lot of blatantly *wrong* things to to do here, but even the least ambiguously "right" decisions will hinge on intent and execution. IMHO.

I'm gonna attempt to touch on all these points.

In about 75% of my playthroughs, I always defend Chad during the hearing for 2 reasons. One, he's being blackmailed and it seems the blackmailer intentionally tried to frame MC, so if I was in a similar situation, I'd have a very hard time not acting out in the same way Chad did.
Two, I saw pretty early on that Chad is going to be a sort of an olive brance between the Alphas and the DIKs with a future friendship with the MC. That's evident in episode 7 after he stops Alex and says "Bro, Stop. He's cool." It's sort of a nod of respect without actually nodding.
Also, as I've said on the forum before. I personally know people that have dealt with being terrified of coming out of the closet for a plethora of reasons so I sympathize with Chad's character. I speculate that Chad wasn't fully aware of his sexuality when he originally began dating Sage. That's also very common with in-the-closet homosexuals, mostly men. College is a time of self-discovery and it seems that Chad discovered he was gay after he was already invested and tied in with Sage. Sage has even said that the ties and traditions between the Alphas and HOTs are strong, perhaps he became overwhelmed and instead of coming clean immediately, he waited for an out of the Fraternity first.....enter MC. Willy Wonka's Golden Ticket to Homosexual Lovin'.
The scene between Sage and Chad if you chose to tell Sage about it sincerely upset me though. Sage was trying so hard to convey understanding, forgiveness and get closure but Chad was having absolutely none of it. He still chose to lie even when he was presented with a slate-cleaning opportunity.

#FUCKYOUDAWE

No argument here.

The only justification I have for Chad continuing to stonewall Sage (he doesn't just remain in the closet, he continues to lie to her face about not cheating) is that they were standing outside the jocks' house. This was not the place to have the conversation Sage wanted to have.

Of course, that problem is easily solved and Chad didn't solve it... so yeah.

#FUCKYOUDAWE

 

[gamingdevil800]

Even if you fail the trouple, you can have Josy in love with you.
If you say you'll support Maya at the rich kid party and leave with Josy, there's a scene where you try to woo her solo and she breaks down crying begging you to stop seducing her because she doesn't want things to become complicated again. It's clear that you still have a chance.

Also you can kiss her on the lips at the party and she cries about it again when she sleeps over to hide from Maya's Dad

 

[sixart]

Yeah, but DPC seems to treat Quinn more special than the "Others" though .

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Of course he does... she is important for the plot while the other " others " not so much
Besides... the other " others " don't have hangouts and such things -> Quinn can be a LI in S3 and onward !

 

[varage]

I'm waiting for the scene where you're offered a devils threesome so People can really get upset on this chat haha.

 

[varage]

Of course he does... she is important for the plot while the other " others " not so much
Besides... the other " others " don't have hangouts and such things -> Quinn can be a LI in S3 and onward !

Thats what im saying when i Chose Josy/Maya i got that same thing you chose that none of the girls were for you.. that confused me.

 

[DavDR]

Like I said, if I felt like I had to be open and honest with Sage, I tell her; that's generally part and parcel with wanting a real relationship with her (however convoluted the route to get there).

But as to your question, I'm sure I'd be pissed off if my hypothetical SO ever kept me in the dark for my own good. But at the same time, it's possible my SO was right. People can be pretty self-destructive at times. Just as I would expect my SO to trust me, surely I would have to extend them the same courtesy and at least consider WHY they kept me in the dark. Doesn't mean I'd agree with them (especially in the heat of the moment), but this is about more than just my feelings.

Plus, there's the added complication that in this case the MC isn't quite Sage's boyfriend yet, and now he'd be dropping a huge dime on her ex. If there was ever a time to step back and consider his motives carefully before telling her, this is it.

I guess I'm just saying I don't see a completely clear cut case even if you're romancing Sage. There are a lot of blatantly *wrong* things to to do here, but even the least ambiguously "right" decisions will hinge on intent and execution. IMHO.



No argument here.

The only justification I have for Chad continuing to stonewall Sage (he doesn't just remain in the closet, he continues to lie to her face about not cheating) is that they were standing outside the jocks' house. This was not the place to have the conversation Sage wanted to have.

Of course, that problem is easily solved and Chad didn't solve it... so yeah.

#FUCKYOUDAWE

With or without a relationship just being Sage's friend I'd say that you still owed it to her. Unless they're a minor child under my guardianship I tend to avoid doing things for people's own good. I think it's one of the most obnoxious things that you can do to another human adult. It rob's them of their own agency.

 

[EvilDave86]

I don't know if anyone else has had this theory but in regards to the preg test it is possible that three other things may be happening and of course this is theoretical in nature.

First, this could be an item from the past when either MC or possibly other characters were conceived, very hypothetical but maybe.

Second, it may be indicating what's to come in the next chapter if you blow your load in any of the LI's or even a one night stand as the MC hasn't used condoms at all. I'm just saying this could be a future that could be situation instead of a based on previous actions kind of thing. Note, yes it's possible MC isn't connected to it in any way but will be handling aftermath.

The last but more concerning of options is that since the MC's mother died, the game has a sense of loss from the very beginning and DPC is a very clever writer and story teller, but the preg test may indicate not a pregnancy but that someone has cancer, pregnancy tests check for certain chemistries in the body and for all we know this may just indicate someone has cancer.

These are all hypothetical and mean nothing until the next chapter unfolds but all could be possible outcomes.

 

[sixart]

Thats what im saying when i Chose Josy/Maya i got that same thing you chose that none of the girls were for you.. that confused me.

That's nothing to worry about... if you read the text it changes slightly at the endgame according who you are pursuing telling you that you are on Maya or Josy solo route... WHEN we come to that is beyond me... I don't think the next episode would feature it... personally I would put it somewhere the ending of S3

 

[DarkKiller]

The last but more concerning of options is that since the MC's mother died, the game has a sense of loss from the very beginning and DPC is a very clever writer and story teller, but the preg test may indicate not a pregnancy but that someone has cancer, pregnancy tests check for certain chemistries in the body and for all we know this may just indicate someone has cancer.

Pls, not again...

 

[PashafromRussia]

Has anyone ever done a run just with Maya? Does Josie react to this somehow in episode 8?

 

[varage]

That's nothing to worry about... if you read the text it changes slightly at the endgame according who you are pursuing telling you that you are on Maya or Josy solo route... WHEN we come to that is beyond me... I don't think the next episode would feature it... personally I would put it somewhere the ending of S3

Think you it was really bugging me i'm on a pure duo playthrough slept in bed pushed together went home with josy movie night with maya. -which begs the question why can you not choose other aka quinn if she can fall for the chick you as well as long as you a Go to her restraunt B do her hang out. she treats you like shes twiterpated even if you aren't a dick. you dont even have to use sara you can just pay for her and sleep with maya at party and it for some reason treats it as if you slept with sara. Maybe because her restraunt has a no refund policy haha or sara lied and said yea we did it.-case and point payed for sarah went home to maya but during the recape it still showed me bang sarah even though we didn't might be a programming oversite.

 

[Cabin Fever]

Absolutely. In addition in episode 8, there is nothing going on between the MC and one of the two girls.

In the other episodes, after choosing to remain friends, you could still spend time with one of the two, have interactions (for example in episode 7 you kiss Maya on the cheek in a more than friendly way).

In episode 8, absolutely nothing like this happens between the MC and either of the two.

In the breakfast scene where the MC is supposed to choose a girl, I didn't even have to choose, I had 0 options, 0 girls. (Not even a HOT or a Pink Rose the MC fucked.)

Either DPC forgot to put a reference to a solo route with Maya or Josy in the breakfast scene, or it is not an error and therefore it seems to indicate that there is no planned solo route with Maya or Josy.

I'd like to think that it's more a case of not being officially implemented yet, instead of no planned solo route.

 

[TrainHardnett]

Yeah, that was amongst the hardest choices in the game thus far. On the one hand, Sage deserves to know what Chad did to her - it's hard to say it's not her secret when Chad (as far as we know) deliberately involved her the way he did. But on the other hand, Chad is clearly terrified of the secret getting out and being blindsided by it (rather than revealing it on his own terms) could be disastrous; plus it's not like we know the details of how their relationship started. But on the third hand, Chad being that far in the closet also means it's almost impossible he's ever going to tell Sage himself, which is what I would really like to happen; sadly, the MC is in no position to push Chad in that direction, so maybe telling Sage is the next best thing? On the fourth hand, however, even if Sage takes the news well it's by no means certain learning she was a beard will give her better closure than simply accepting Chad has moved on.

In the end, I generally looked for tie breaks based on a given playthrough. If I felt like I needed to be open and honest with Sage, or that I owed her one for helping Maya/Josy, I usually told her. If I didn't have that extra connection to Sage, I said nothing and hoped for the best.

I am very curious to see what comes of this. Hopefully it will be nuanced enough to have consequences both ways and not just be a 'gotcha' twist 2 episodes down the line.

Oh, and #FUCKYOUDAWE

I will say it again as I have said it before, its better in the long run to tell Sage and let her move on. Its literally in the code which gives you +Sage points if you do. You can keep it a secret from everyone else but you must tell her as she is directly involved and the entire situation is impacting her negatively.

Let me just say this. A relationship should be built on respect and honesty. If you are in a relationship with someone, how would you feel if you found out that they had withheld information that directly impacted your life, and even worse you found out that the reason that they withheld the information from you was because they felt it was for 'Your own good'. Also you mentioned that you had concerns about Chad. But who has more right to your loyalty than the person that you share a relationship with? Would you really put some random Dude on the same level as your girlfriend?

My MC told Sage about the info that fell into his lap because she had the right to know. While common courtesy might make me keep a secret from the rest of the world my MC feels like his girlfriend has more of a right to his loyalty. Finally, my MC would never worry about what Sage would do with that info, because he trust her and knows that she will do the right thing.

Exactly this.

 

[Cabin Fever]

DIK mansion with Halloween theme looks great
Can’t wait for next episode

I hope for interlude update to be small so that we get Halloween asap

but I guess we will get it near next Halloween

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