VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[PashafromRussia]

In general, I have plenty of exciting news to share with you soon about everything that's coming up for Being a DIK, both in the near future and long-term.

I do not know what it is if not a hint that he hired several people to help. Because everyone is waiting for a reduction in development time, and this can be done by
1) shorter releases
2) hiring additional people to help in development.
Because otherwise I can't imagine what "exciting" news about the future of the project might be.

 

[kakato13]

God, we didn't even know that one of his relatives had died. And he continued to work.

RIP

 

[Deleted member 3541029]

The box on MC's desk during the first free roam worries me.

I swear to God, if it turns out to be a Lament Configuration and Episode 9 turns the game into a full-on horror game...

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It's just a soul cube from Doom 3, mate

 

[Deleted member 2909933]

Why do I have to pick a girl even in the DIK path? There should be at the very least the option to choose more than one, even if it leads to a bad end like in the witcher if you pick both Triss and Yen.

 

[Gunizz]

What? Have you not seen all the others sticking it to girls?
There are pics of it all over this thread.

Please notice that I wrote about the girl MC pursues, if the only one having sex in all the city was MC it would be far too ridiculous.

The mere fact the sage you love and fkk into the heavens above still thinks herself the Gf
of some asshole is not NTR enough 4 ya ???
Seriously ???

If you feel NTR vibes from a TOTAL GAY DUDE that would not fuck Sage even under extreme torture, well, your NTR sensibility is very very high and I did not expect that, frankly. I had girls with gay friends, also sleeping in their same bed and I never felt them as competitors of mine (and I'm talking about real life here, not a fictional universe). How can you (as MC) be jealous of Chad? It does not look to me as a menace to MC-Sage relationship.
I'm trying to make a serious debate here, about the lack of artistic freedom those adult games developers have to face when conceiving an entertaining story. I find this somehow a problem if even the hypothesis of a credible male antagonist (albeit unsuccessful) gets the public into total meltdown. DPC is trying to set a complex scenario but he has to deal with this limitation and a few people have noticed that. It's a normal discussion about this game and VNs, there is no need to heat up.

 

[Niu6609]

See y'all in a week when I have time to play the game and explore the other routes!

I'm hoping my excitement from wanting to get close to Bella next is gonna be able to power me through the week.

 

[kidomasa]

You know who are in " others "... pick 1 and ignore all the other " others " And voila you chose from the " others " ... although I'm not sure it makes too much sense... " others " are all bitches so to say so they don't really care if you fuck around with other " others " But to make things sure I'd recommend to create a playthrough with the desired " other " in solo too just to be sure ! You have at least 6 months to achieve that !

Yeah, but DPC seems to treat Quinn more special than the "Others" though .

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[horusxcaen82]

hey I am on one of the free roam areas and I was wondering if anyone knew how to water the flowers jamie gave you? I cannot find the clickable icon to do so

if you use the quick navigation button at the bottom go to Tommy's room then back out and it the room right in front of it I think

 

[Gunizz]

hey I am on one of the free roam areas and I was wondering if anyone knew how to water the flowers jamie gave you? I cannot find the clickable icon to do so

Look into Jamie's garden (the terrace with all the plants). There is a rounded pot in the middle, that looks empty. You can click on it.

 

[horusxcaen82]

The box on MC's desk during the first free roam worries me.

I swear to God, if it turns out to be a Lament Configuration and Episode 9 turns the game into a full-on horror game...

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maybe it will be a rule 63 pinhead that pops out and MC can have sex with it.

 

[Hahn1900]

As I wrote previously, I think TheWayWeAllGo has a reason on his remarks. It's not that BaD lacks "forced" NTR scenes, personally I don't give a fuck about NTR, if there isn't any I'm fine, if there is (and it's there for a reason, well implemented in the plot) I'm fine too if the narration is good and solid. BaD lacks real competitors for MC, that's a fact. You control a character that has no antagonists, no real ones competing for the same girls. MC gives the pussy to others: Derek, Jacob, JamJam. I find this scenario less stimulating, not because I want to see scenes where those girls are banged by others (but if there were, I won't cry, it's fiction) but because I do not perceive any other male that can steal those girls if I make the wrong moves. The girls can reject MC if I make very very wrong moves, that's all. Is that enough?

Who are the antagonists? Maya for Josy, Tybalt for Jill, a ghost for Bella, a gay for Sage. It's like playing a war game where you are the USSR and you have to fight against Malta, would it be really stimulating for a player? Maybe DPC has planned more surprises in future updates, but I don't think so, because being stolen of a girl, even in a fictional world, seems to deadly upset many adult players.
But I'm certain DPC would have the skills and ideas to implement a credible male antagonist if he only wanted, and in a clever way, differently from those crappy NTR games I've played. He simply can't afford to lose money. That's a big creative limitation porn VN developers have to face if they want to achieve big numbers.

Well if you want success, you have to deal with what the masses want...

And in a love/porn fantasy, most dont want competition.

And i have to admit... iam like that too.

I love a good lovestory growing in this kind of VNs. And i makes me feel uncomfortable to see the desired girl maybe growing closer to another male.

But i enjoy it very much if its a struggle to win a girl over and the MC is not just winning the girl over imediatly just for being there... in this departmend, yeah being a dik feels just that the girls are throwing themself into the arms of the MC imediatly, and that is something i dont like in most of the game... the overall "magic dick" guy that scores all the girl without even saying something...

In being a dik this bothers me not that much cause everything else is just really a nice trip, AND its clear from the start that you just cant get every girl, and to me it was clear from the start that in the end you have to choose one girl, or be without love. So this works for me...

Those Harem games where you just end up with every girl no matter what are really boring, and dont give me anything.

A relationship has to grow for me in some way, and yeah needs some bumps in the road too. The balance is what makes it good...

Being a dik is a good in that department, far away from perfect, but good enough overall...

But yeah the competition in this game are just other temptations you have to fight of to get the girl you want for a love-route...

And wouldnt there be so much other interesting things going on in the game, i have to admit, just for the realtionships the game would get boring at some point i think...

But its kind of a masterpiece of work that DPC is capable to pull off that nothing is certain for the relationships, even without male competition. Cause with all the things going on you cant really be sure that everything will work out just fine all the time. *edit* i mean just see at Acting Lessons... no male competetion, but we all know hoiw that went in the end...

I hope he can deliver at this level for season 3 too... and i hope its not just zoey forced drama that makes the realtionships struggle, that would be annoying.

But i get your point why you wish for some real competition, i prefer it another way...

Overall i think youre right that its a sacrifice DPC has to make to get enough money in, if there would be real competition or even NTR, this game wouldnt be such a success, not even close.

 

[sorco2003]

It really is a lot of acronyms! It's actually nice that we can all use acronyms for a lot of different things and immediately understand what each other is talking about though. Anyone else reading this would be lost.

I know DPC was wanting BaDIK to be a prequel to AL but then scrapped the idea. It would be cool if he threw us a little easter egg though

Any Easter egg with AL involved would only make my back run cold and my skin crawl with goose bumps.

 

[KekWGgWP]

As I wrote previously, I think TheWayWeAllGo has a reason on his remarks. It's not that BaD lacks "forced" NTR scenes, personally I don't give a fuck about NTR, if there isn't any I'm fine, if there is (and it's there for a reason, well implemented in the plot) I'm fine too if the narration is good and solid. BaD lacks real competitors for MC, that's a fact. You control a character that has no antagonists, no real ones competing for the same girls. MC gives the pussy to others: Derek, Jacob, JamJam. I find this scenario less stimulating, not because I want to see scenes where those girls are banged by others (but if there were, I won't cry, it's fiction) but because I do not perceive any other male that can steal those girls if I make the wrong moves. The girls can reject MC if I make very very wrong moves, that's all. Is that enough?

Who are the antagonists? Maya for Josy, Tybalt for Jill, a ghost for Bella, a gay for Sage. It's like playing a war game where you are the USSR and you have to fight against Malta, would it be really stimulating for a player? Maybe DPC has planned more surprises in future updates, but I don't think so, because being stolen of a girl, even in a fictional world, seems to deadly upset many adult players.
But I'm certain DPC would have the skills and ideas to implement a credible male antagonist if he only wanted, and in a clever way, differently from those crappy NTR games I've played. He simply can't afford to lose money. That's a big creative limitation porn VN developers have to face if they want to achieve big numbers.

It doesn't have to be a competition, i don't find that necessary at all since the game isn't about competition, also Tommy is pretty much the most based DIK, the man is screwing women around having an actual girlfriend and who knows how many women he banged before, no one can compete with him lol.

 

[KekWGgWP]

That's the price the Devs have to pay because if there were real male antagonists, all of damn F95 wussies would shout: "NTR, this is outrageous!! WE DON'T WANT NTR!!" until the end of the world.

That's personal preferences, you don't impose that on others, if you want NTR there's plenty of it out there.

 

[JamieSadistic]

Any Easter egg with AL involved would only make my back run cold and my skin crawl with goose bumps.

I'm very wary of 90% of redheads in games now because of how fucking psychotic Leah was. When I first played it, I replayed it at least 12 times trying different shit so I could avoid her but it was impossible. DPC will forever be an asshole for that.

 

[Gunizz]

[...]
And wouldnt there be so much other interesting things going on in the game, i have to admit, just for the realtionships the game would get boring at some point i think...
But its kind of a masterpiece of work that DPC is capable to pull off that nothing is certain for the relationships, even without male competition. Cause with all the things going on you cant really be sure that everything will work out just fine all the time. *edit* i mean just see at Acting Lessons... no male competetion, but we all know hoiw that went in the end...
[...]
Overall i think youre right that its a sacrifice DPC has to make to get enough money in, if there would be real competition or even NTR, this game wouldnt be such a success, not even close.

I understand your point of view and almost agree especially on those quoted, while I still prefer engaging and "dangerous" situations (in games only!). DPC has succeed being able to provide a good, rich and entertaining story even without setting up one or more real antagonists. He is a bit weak on the eroticism and sex depiction but he compensates with other strong abilities. But he is among the few developers to be able to set up a good product with those limitations. I've found that most VN developers give us very boring and predictable plots and the NTR-centred ones are no better, they mostly look very annoying and stupid focusing all the plot on unavoidable cuckoldry.

I just regret for this overall situation because I strongly feel DPC could provide a good story where the MC has to fight for the girls against credible competitors, and while I really appreciate BaD I would like him to have more artistic freedom. I remember all the negative criticism he received for the finale of Acting Lessons, and I know that a male antagonist is considered worst than a girl's death by most audience.

 

[ename144]

I dunno why you mentioned Riona sex scene but try calling Riona Slave Riona calls you Master. And You call Quinn Princess and Quinn calls you Daddy. I actually really enjoyed the scene if Riona's Militaryisk performance itchs you the wrong way it makes more sense if she's your slave.

Okay, but... I didn't call Riona a slave. You do you (this is a game, after all), but why would I ever want to do that?

I'm not saying there was anything wrong with the Riona/Quinn scene. I was just using it as an example of a scene that didn't appeal to me despite being much larger and more involved than the one I was defending.

I'm right there with you dude.
When it came down to telling Sage about Chad being gay, I genuinely questioned myself like "Ok wait...it ain't my story to tell and it would be completely wrong of me to out this dude like that even if he punched me in the face..."
Even though they're all made up characters, something inside me pulls me to not want to hurt any of their feelings. Except Caleb. Already beat him up once and he wants to swell up on me at the gym when all his friends are there.
OH! and Dawe. Dawe's a cunt. #FUCKYOUDAWE

Yeah, that was amongst the hardest choices in the game thus far. On the one hand, Sage deserves to know what Chad did to her - it's hard to say it's not her secret when Chad (as far as we know) deliberately involved her the way he did. But on the other hand, Chad is clearly terrified of the secret getting out and being blindsided by it (rather than revealing it on his own terms) could be disastrous; plus it's not like we know the details of how their relationship started. But on the third hand, Chad being that far in the closet also means it's almost impossible he's ever going to tell Sage himself, which is what I would really like to happen; sadly, the MC is in no position to push Chad in that direction, so maybe telling Sage is the next best thing? On the fourth hand, however, even if Sage takes the news well it's by no means certain learning she was a beard will give her better closure than simply accepting Chad has moved on.

In the end, I generally looked for tie breaks based on a given playthrough. If I felt like I needed to be open and honest with Sage, or that I owed her one for helping Maya/Josy, I usually told her. If I didn't have that extra connection to Sage, I said nothing and hoped for the best.

I am very curious to see what comes of this. Hopefully it will be nuanced enough to have consequences both ways and not just be a 'gotcha' twist 2 episodes down the line.

Oh, and #FUCKYOUDAWE

Sage has the right to know the truth, of course I'd have preferred if the mc confronted Chad and told him to come clean because Sage deserves better, but don't forget that Chad can only blame himself in the end. Using someone as a cover, playing with their feelings, just to protect your secret is quite loathsome.

As I said, this is a very strong argument. But we don't really know just why the relationship started. What if Sage inadvertently cornered Chad and he felt he had no option but to date her lest he give away his secret? Given the traditional connection between the HOTs and Tri-Alphas, it's possible dating the HOT president was expected of Chad. With him being (publicly) single and Sage obviously into him, maybe he couldn't think of a valid excuse that didn't call his sexuality into question.

Granted, it's still a miserable thing to do to someone, but now it's much less deliberate. This is why I wish we had the option to encourage Chad to come clean directly, but the MC is just not in a position where that is plausible (especially if he didn't defend Chad at the hearing).

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This last week was insane in so many ways. It was the most hectic and fun release so far. There are always going to be problems during releases, but it went relatively smoothly despite some hiccups. The game has gotten too big, both in popularity and file size, to distribute to patrons effectively. It's a wonderful problem to have.

Each server used was struggling all week long, and it was exhausting trying to deliver the update in a timely fashion. I apologize to everyone affected by the slow download speeds, file corruption, and waiting time; I truly did the best I could. The current download links are stable, and the server load has cooled down over the week.

It's comforting to know that Season 3 will be like pushing the reset button on the file size. So, the next download will be significantly smaller, and I will provide patches again in the future.

Make sure that you keep the game on your PC since Season 1 and Season 2 are considered complete now. If you want to replay episodes 1-8 in the future, you will need the 0.8.x version. There are still some bugs in the current version that I'm fixing, so a v0.8.2 will come out at some point, both as a smaller patch and a full download.

Thanks to everyone for staying patient before and during the release week! And a special thanks to patrons helping each other figure things out when I had to sleep. The beta testers, proofreader, admins, and moderators, also deserve huge thanks for their efforts.

Amidst the network issues and bug fixes, I haven't fully appreciated the feedback and overwhelming response you've sent my way. I've been feeling like a robot trying to put out fires as they started, but the impact of the release is starting to dawn on me.

All of your comments and praise humble me, making me very emotional to read your words. I poured my heart and soul into this episode - and I did so while mourning a tragic family event, but developing this game provided me with a distraction and kept me sane and healthy. And if that doesn't prove how much this game means to me, nothing will.

It's been wonderful to deliver the full second season to you, and I truly wish that all of you thought that the wait was worthwhile. Thank you for supporting and trusting me during the development months of episode 8 and for the incredible support during release. Not only did we become 15000 DIKs, but even 17000 in a matter of 4 days! That's nuts! You are amazing!

I want to celebrate these patron count milestones with you. I have something special planned for this occasion that I will share at a better moment.

In general, I have plenty of exciting news to share with you soon about everything that's coming up for Being a DIK, both in the near future and long-term.

You can look forward to posts including this and more:

• What I'm working on
• The upcoming Steam release
• Season 2 patch information
• The episode 8 walkthrough
• Information about the Interlude
• Patron milestone celebration
• A new Q&A post where you can submit questions
• Patreon tier changes

Posts may come somewhat irregularly as soon as I have something exciting to share, not just on Fridays, at least for a while.

Fun times lie ahead of us, and I'm so damned excited to start working on Season 3 - where both big questions will be asked and answered!

Right now, I'm going to power on with work.

Love,
Dr PinkCake

I suppose this is the rare occasion where hard numbers are not warranted.

It's good to see DPC remains enthusiastic. I'm definitely eager to hear more about how the Interlude is going to work.

As I wrote previously, I think TheWayWeAllGo has a reason on his remarks. It's not that BaD lacks "forced" NTR scenes, personally I don't give a fuck about NTR, if there isn't any I'm fine, if there is (and it's there for a reason, well implemented in the plot) I'm fine too if the narration is good and solid. BaD lacks real competitors for MC, that's a fact. You control a character that has no antagonists, no real ones competing for the same girls. MC gives the pussy to others: Derek, Jacob, JamJam. I find this scenario less stimulating, not because I want to see scenes where those girls are banged by others (but if there were, I won't cry, it's fiction) but because I do not perceive any other male that can steal those girls if I make the wrong moves. The girls can reject MC if I make very very wrong moves, that's all. Is that enough?

Who are the antagonists? Maya for Josy, Tybalt for Jill, a ghost for Bella, a gay for Sage. It's like playing a war game where you are the USSR and you have to fight against Malta, would it be really stimulating for a player? Maybe DPC has planned more surprises in future updates, but I don't think so, because being stolen of a girl, even in a fictional world, seems to deadly upset many adult players.
But I'm certain DPC would have the skills and ideas to implement a credible male antagonist if he only wanted, and in a clever way, differently from those crappy NTR games I've played. He simply can't afford to lose money. That's a big creative limitation porn VN developers have to face if they want to achieve big numbers.

Ummm, for Maya surely the antagonist is her father, no? And whatever my complaints about the financial-babble that justifies her predicament, I think Patrick has been a pretty effective antagonist so far; I certainly worry about what he might do to Maya. Likewise I think Burke has established himself as a loathsome antagonist despite being in no way a romantic rival for the MC.

Now it's true that the LIs have eyes only for the MC; even on the M/J path, both of them spend a lot more time making goo-goo eyes at the MC than they do each other. But I'm not sure adding a bunch of romantic rivals would improve things.

First, it would heavily clutter the story since we'd need to devote time to developing 4 separate "threat" relationships that make sense on all paths. Second, it would get in the way of exploring the dynamics of the MC in a committed relationship with his preferred LI, which seems to be the focus for Season 3. Third, it would also complicate the ability of the MC to be a non-romantic friend to unchosen LIs, which seems to be a big part of the game going forward (Sage in particular).

Now this does have the added advantage of sidestepping the endless headache that is NTR, but in this case I think that's a side effect and not the main concern.

Basically, I doubt we'd have been better off with romantic rivals than what we got in Season 1 & 2, and they would be redundant in Season 3 because the game seems to be less about whether the MC can win the girl of his dreams and more about what it takes to stay with her.

 

[mightybored]

Any Easter egg with AL involved would only make my back run cold and my skin crawl with goose bumps.

Bella: "One of my Omega Mu Gamma sisters..."
MC: "OMG"
Bella: "One of my sisters was in the nursing program. She taught me how to stitch up wounds."
Jill: "She seems nice."
Bella: "...only when she wanted something in exchange."

 

[varage]

I have a worry Maya and josy dont have a you tell them scene at end right? Because when i chose maya/josy route at end screen it said i didn't choose anyone. at the recap page it says you decided non of the girls were right for you.-im assuming thats meaning non of the new girls sense you met josy and maya before your midsimester crisis and were already kinda in a relationship with no strings?

 

[shazba]

As I wrote previously, I think TheWayWeAllGo has a reason on his remarks. It's not that BaD lacks "forced" NTR scenes, personally I don't give a fuck about NTR, if there isn't any I'm fine, if there is (and it's there for a reason, well implemented in the plot) I'm fine too if the narration is good and solid. BaD lacks real competitors for MC, that's a fact. You control a character that has no antagonists, no real ones competing for the same girls. MC gives the pussy to others: Derek, Jacob, JamJam. I find this scenario less stimulating, not because I want to see scenes where those girls are banged by others (but if there were, I won't cry, it's fiction) but because I do not perceive any other male that can steal those girls if I make the wrong moves. The girls can reject MC if I make very very wrong moves, that's all. Is that enough?

Who are the antagonists? Maya for Josy, Tybalt for Jill, a ghost for Bella, a gay for Sage. It's like playing a war game where you are the USSR and you have to fight against Malta, would it be really stimulating for a player? Maybe DPC has planned more surprises in future updates, but I don't think so, because being stolen of a girl, even in a fictional world, seems to deadly upset many adult players.
But I'm certain DPC would have the skills and ideas to implement a credible male antagonist if he only wanted, and in a clever way, differently from those crappy NTR games I've played. He simply can't afford to lose money. That's a big creative limitation porn VN developers have to face if they want to achieve big numbers.

Well if you want success, you have to deal with what the masses want...

And in a love/porn fantasy, most dont want competition.

And i have to admit... iam like that too.

I love a good lovestory growing in this kind of VNs. And i makes me feel uncomfortable to see the desired girl maybe growing closer to another male.

But i enjoy it very much if its a struggle to win a girl over and the MC is not just winning the girl over imediatly just for being there... in this departmend, yeah being a dik feels just that the girls are throwing themself into the arms of the MC imediatly, and that is something i dont like in most of the game... the overall "magic dick" guy that scores all the girl without even saying something...

In being a dik this bothers me not that much cause everything else is just really a nice trip, AND its clear from the start that you just cant get every girl, and to me it was clear from the start that in the end you have to choose one girl, or be without love. So this works for me...

Those Harem games where you just end up with every girl no matter what are really boring, and dont give me anything.

A relationship has to grow for me in some way, and yeah needs some bumps in the road too. The balance is what makes it good...

Being a dik is a good in that department, far away from perfect, but good enough overall...

But yeah the competition in this game are just other temptations you have to fight of to get the girl you want for a love-route...

And wouldnt there be so much other interesting things going on in the game, i have to admit, just for the realtionships the game would get boring at some point i think...

But its kind of a masterpiece of work that DPC is capable to pull off that nothing is certain for the relationships, even without male competition. Cause with all the things going on you cant really be sure that everything will work out just fine all the time. *edit* i mean just see at Acting Lessons... no male competetion, but we all know hoiw that went in the end...

I hope he can deliver at this level for season 3 too... and i hope its not just zoey forced drama that makes the realtionships struggle, that would be annoying.

But i get your point why you wish for some real competition, i prefer it another way...

Overall i think youre right that its a sacrifice DPC has to make to get enough money in, if there would be real competition or even NTR, this game wouldnt be such a success, not even close.

It doesn't have to be a competition, i don't find that necessary at all also Tommy is pretty much the most based DIK, the man is screwing women around having an actual girlfriend and who knows how many women he banged before, no one can compete with him lol.

I'd have no interest in competing for a girl.

In life you hook-up with a girl for fun, or something serious, but it needs to be on equal footing, not one party jumping through hoops to satisfy the other so they can "win" them. That is a sure fire set up for an unbalanced relationship.

I would never compete for a girls attention or love. If a girl expected me and another guy to compete for her interest, the other guy can fucking have her, he'll be jumping through hoops for the rest of the relationship.

Do not give a girl that kind of power over you. Nor should a girl give a guy that kind of power.

Be yourself and find someone compatible, because it's easier to be yourself for the duration of a relationship than it is to behave in a way contrary to who you are just so you can "have the girl". What you will have, is a fucking headache.

All that said, this game does not need competition for the love interests. Tybalt was never competition, he was just a fucking idiot that Jill never wanted to date and now she pretty much doesn't want to even look at him.

The conflicts in this game have nothing to do with other guys stealing the mc's girl(s). It's all about other random dramas. That's pretty much the same as life.