VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Pendrell]

just finished a couple paths
-is kind of naive (or stupid) the Quinn' scenes where you are supposed to ''get the good side of her to flourish''... not us nor DPC is 15y old (I think..) to buy into that bs, so if that shit goes on is going to end up bad if this game plays in a realistic/adult way as usually does

the renders of her character look hot tho

I'm not certain what you mean by "get the good side of her to flourish" but I assume you're referring to the moments where MC is able to get Quinn to let her guard down a bit and try some broccoli. If so, I have to disagree with you - these are some of the most well-developed moments in the game, certainly more emotionally complex than much of what we get on other routes. What do you think is naive about it exactly? Clearly people like that exist, who keep others at an emotional distance, and sometimes they can be reached by the right person. It's a familiar dramatic trope, but that doesn't mean it's unrealistic.

I will agree with you that Quinn is hot though.

 

[mightybored]

My main theory is that the photos with Troy were planted by someone from Hots (we hear the sounds of heels). Probably Quinn wanted to destroy the tradition of joint Hots and Jocks parties. She says in episode 8 that she will take it upon herself to deal with the jocks and keep them from the Halloween party. According to Quinn, Chad will get angry and attack someone from the Diks, but only MС turned out to be nearby and he just got into a hot hand. As a result, Chad was suspended and the head became a more accommodating Dow, with whom it is easier to do business. And Quinn is also behind the photos with Katie, she planned to remove Rusty from the post of president and appoint Tommy.

And to continue with this, we know that the DIK house wasn't hit by the Alphas, because how would they have gotten away with that level of destruction after Chad beat up MC? That's 100% an easy choice to kill a frat.

 

[Klopdwerg]

you don't want to hope that Zoey isn't somehow connected to the current events?

Even if she is Buddy's dealer for the coast, she will be somehow already involved in the story.
At best she'll be the sister of someone switched at birth.

I never gave thought to that but i do think she is more involved then we all think.
The shrug and hug she gave Neill is a sign they were more close then the story told us so far. MC told Bella they were just "friends with (later on) benefits" But i never got the idea Neill was close to her. Not in a sexual way but there was some aknowledge in that final scene.
DPC told us the interlude will be far smaller then we are used to but still it seems to me that he can close some other open ends beside only telling Zoeys story. I sure hope he does. Just look at the list from Shazba, so many questions. He will need a full episode to close them all so this will be a nice opportunity to do so.

 

[felicemastronzo]

I never gave thought to that but i do think she is more involved then we all think.
The shrug and hug she gave Neill is a sign they were more close then the story told us so far. MC told Bella they were just "friends with (later on) benefits" But i never got the idea Neill was close to her. Not in a sexual way but there was some aknowledge in that final scene.
DPC told us the interlude will be far smaller then we are used to but still it seems to me that he can close some other open ends beside only telling Zoeys story. I sure hope he does. Just look at the list from Shazba, so many questions. He will need a full episode to close them all so this will be a nice opportunity to do so.

I'm quite pessimistic about the fact that DPC will really close all these mysteries, they are really too many and some are too old to be still really "interesting".

in my opinion there will be a lot of "it happened because it did" at the end. there are too many really important issues that need to be addressed to give time to secondary issues

 

[PashafromRussia]

And to continue with this, we know that the DIK house wasn't hit by the Alphas, because how would they have gotten away with that level of destruction after Chad beat up MC? That's 100% an easy choice to kill a frat.

I don't think the jocks' attack on the mansion and the blackmail are connected. Sage had organized a party at the Preps mansion and Quinn had to tell Tommy that Hots wouldn't be at Derek and Tremolo's initiation into Diks. Quinn didn't tell because she knew what Tommy's reaction would be. The Diks thought it was Jocks, quarreled with them and left. When the Diks leave, Dow looks towards the mansion. Attacking the jocks is a common impulsive act that corresponds to the character of a dumb Dow.

DPC told us the interlude will be far smaller then we are used to but still it seems to me that he can close some other open ends beside only telling Zoeys story. I sure hope he does. Just look at the list from Shazba, so many questions. He will need a full episode to close them all so this will be a nice opportunity to do so.

As I said, most likely Zoey knows Vinnie and is going to him. But the version that she knows, for example, a bouncer from a strip club or Lily is also good.

 

[Klopdwerg]

I'm quite pessimistic about the fact that DPC will really close all these mysteries, they are really too many and some are too old to be still really "interesting".

in my opinion there will be a lot of "it happened because it did" at the end. there are too many really important issues that need to be addressed to give time to secondary issues

That would be such a shame if he did. It's one of the reasons which makes the story just great.
As you said, there are so many now he should be starting to clear things up and not just forget. Look at us debating here about them. Just one of the things that keeps the wait for the next episode just a little more enduring and some nice and heated discussions.
By now it's hard to set a line between the important and secondary issues since they could be intertwined. Well according to Dalli at least
At this point a little, seemable non existing secondary issue can have a huge impact on an ongoing important one.

 

[felicemastronzo]

That would be such a shame if he did. It's one of the reasons which makes the story just great.
As you said, there are so many now he should be starting to clear things up and not just forget. Look at us debating here about them. Just one of the things that keeps the wait for the next episode just a little more enduring and some nice and heated discussions.
By now it's hard to set a line between the important and secondary issues since they could be intertwined. Well according to Dalli at least
At this point a little, seemable non existing secondary issue can have a huge impact on an ongoing important one.

what strictly concerns MC and the LIs (Lynette, Maya's father, Bella's husband...) are the main issues, everything generically concerning the college and the fraternities are secondary issues.

then, you're right, everything is connected, but, to give an example, who sent the letters with the pictures to the Jocks at this point of the story is not so important anymore, in the same way who devastated the DIKs house
or must be an unsuspected, which then changes our way of considering a particular character, or otherwise it will still be someone who regardless of his guilt was already definitely a villain of the story (Quinn? Vinnie? Burke?).

going back to the interlude: it has to give substance to Zoey's character, who otherwise would be a foreign body in the story, the fact that we have been told that she was the first fuckbuddy of MC is not enough, she has to make up for 8 chapters of absence and somehow capture our attention. i think that together with this will be thrown the seed of some other mystery that will give a glimpse of Zoey's connection with other characters in the story besides MC, to make her more interconnected to the story

 

[J.A.L.]

it is true that the relationship between Sage and her family is now portrayed differently, but Sage confiding in Jade about her romantic difficulties is seemingly in antithesis to what Sage tells MC after her breakup with Chad.

sa "Yeah, but not for me. I've never found that balance."
sa "And what's worse is that I want to be able to discuss emotions with my family."
sa "I wanna be able to say to my dad that I'm sad and have him sit down and listen."
sa "I want to be able to ask mom about personal things that I've always wondered..."
scene ep6_sage21 with dissolve
sa "...but I know that dad would shut down if I tried and mom would get angry if I asked..."

Maybe she was referring about her adoption. For example, why they decided to adopt her or even what happened with her biological parents. That line of "dad would shut down if I tried and mom would get angry if I asked" seems to be referred to something like that.

Think that Sage and Chad have been having hard arguments in public places in B&R. It makes sense that Jade and Burke have seen those arguments. Even if Sage and Jade don´t have a close relationship, I think any mother would have a talk with her daughter if she sees her having an argument with her neardenthal boyfriend in the middle of the cafeteria of his work center.

 

[J.A.L.]

Quinn is pimping HOTs, and I suppose Burke is her main client and the reason she can continue selling drugs and is not expelled from B&R... It´s supposed that Quinn asked Burke to get rid of Mona, and that´s why she left? Did she left voluntarily? What do you guys think?

 

[felicemastronzo]

Maybe she was referring about her adoption. For example, why they decided to adopt her or even what happened with her biological parents. That line of "dad would shut down if I tried and mom would get angry if I asked" seems to be referred to something like that.

Think that Sage and Chad have been having hard arguments in public places in B&R. It makes sense that Jade and Burke have seen those arguments. Even if Sage and Jade don´t have a close relationship, I think any mother would have a talk with her daughter if she sees her having an argument with her neardenthal boyfriend in the middle of the cafeteria of his work center.

i don't think so
Sage talks about personal matters, and her boyfriend is definitely a personal matter, then Jade may well have given her negative opinion about Chad, but without any confession between the two of them

 

[J.A.L.]

i don't think so
Sage talks about personal matters, and her boyfriend is definitely a personal matter, then Jade may well have given her negative opinion about Chad, but without any confession between the two of them

I think that Jade saw something in Chad that made her suspect, call it "gay-radar" if you want, and made some comment about him being gay to Sage. Maybe there are some personal topics that are not discussed at the Burke´s, but it doesn´t have to mean that Sage and Jade only talk about weather.

 

[Jimayo]

I never gave thought to that but i do think she is more involved then we all think.
The shrug and hug she gave Neill is a sign they were more close then the story told us so far. MC told Bella they were just "friends with (later on) benefits" But i never got the idea Neill was close to her. Not in a sexual way but there was some aknowledge in that final scene.
DPC told us the interlude will be far smaller then we are used to but still it seems to me that he can close some other open ends beside only telling Zoeys story. I sure hope he does. Just look at the list from Shazba, so many questions. He will need a full episode to close them all so this will be a nice opportunity to do so.

She was his best friend for years. Have your parents never met your best friends?

 

[thorin0815]

I think that Jade saw something in Chad that made her suspect, call it "gay-radar" if you want, and made some comment about him being gay to Sage.

Jade didn't need a "gay radar", Chad probably never stared at her cleavage. Every man who has even minimal interest in the opposite sex does this instinctively.

 

[Tadpol]

And to continue with this, we know that the DIK house wasn't hit by the Alphas, because how would they have gotten away with that level of destruction after Chad beat up MC? That's 100% an easy choice to kill a frat.

There is one piece of evidence that incriminates the Alphas:

dildos !

They are the same from the start. The Alphas throw them through the windows of the DIK house, then the DIK pick them up and later throw them at the Alphas house. And finally we find them everywhere in the ransacked house of the DIK.

If it's not the Alphas, it takes a little too much planning and manpower to be plausible.

I'm quite pessimistic about the fact that DPC will really close all these mysteries, they are really too many and some are too old to be still really "interesting".

We tend to create and / or see mysteries where there are none.

For example, Zoey hugging Neil, that's okay with me, and I don't think it's hiding anything.

Maybe it's the same with Bella's bathroom.

But it's true that DPC does some things on purpose. For example the photo frames in the dispute between Jade and Stephen.

 

[Trojaner]

I Love these idiots on GOG. Seems they have there more Dereks as we have here.

 

[felicemastronzo]

We tend to create and / or see mysteries where there are none.

For example, Zoey hugging Neil, that's okay with me, and I don't think it's hiding anything.

Maybe it's the same with Bella's bathroom.

But it's true that DPC does some things on purpose. For example the photo frames in the dispute between Jade and Stephen.

surely many mysteries exist only in our heads (the soldier in MC's hallucinations, the light that goes on and off in the garden etc.).

then there are others that DPC forcibly wants us to think about, like the cube in MC's room...

but the amount of situations left unresolved is enormous, and the count increases with every chapter, at best a few details are added, but the matters really closed are very few

 

[kyrlian]

you're right, everything is connected, but, to give an example, who sent the letters with the pictures to the Jocks at this point of the story is not so important anymore, in the same way who devastated the DIKs house
or must be an unsuspected, which then changes our way of considering a particular character, or otherwise it will still be someone who regardless of his guilt was already definitely a villain of the story (Quinn? Vinnie? Burke?).

going back to the interlude: it has to give substance to Zoey's character, who otherwise would be a foreign body in the story, the fact that we have been told that she was the first fuckbuddy o

If Quinn sent the letters... Then its implied that Tommy gave her the pictures but that is out of character for both of them. Quinn is trying to bring the HOTs and the DIKs closer together and Tommy may be an asshole but he is loyal.

Vinnie is the best option and makes a lot of sense but DPC likes to shock people so my money is on someone unexpected, even if It makes less sense. Lets hope he doesn't do that in the future.

About the interlude, It would be awesome if Zoey ends up being close to Vinnie, that can be a great way of introducing Vinnie and a challenge to Dik players since they would maybe be forced to choose between their long lost love and friend or Quinn since Quinn and Vinnie's story will clash.

 

[mindern]

Yeah, probably. That would aim Vinnie although we don´t know how he gets the information. And the reason Chad breaks up with Sage would be Mel and Sarah telling him that should stop using Sage and step aside, specially since she has found another guy that makes her happier. Makes sense.

There’s also the possibility he broke up with her because he knew it was the right thing to do. It’s possible Chad did this off his own back. He’s becoming less of a douche slowly. Telling the alphas to back off the MC at the party and so on.

Him and Sage were fighting more and more. It probably wasn’t pleasant being on the receiving end of her anger. It probably wasn’t comfortable having to rebuff her sexually.

It’s possible he broke up with her not because of blackmail or someone telling him to but because maintaining this fake relationship wasn’t worth it anymore. Guess we shall see.

 

[felicemastronzo]

If Quinn sent the letters... Then its implied that Tommy gave her the pictures but that is out of character for both of them. Quinn is trying to bring the HOTs and the DIKs closer together and Tommy may be an asshole but he is loyal.

Vinnie is the best option and makes a lot of sense but DPC likes to shock people so my money is on someone unexpected, even if It makes less sense. Lets hope he doesn't do that in the future.

I didn't mean to solve the mystery (and frankly, the long wait between one chapter and the next has also made me lose interest, we could talk for 6 months about who did it, then the ninth chapter comes out and the mystery remains unsolved, so should we talk about it for another 6 months?) but only to indicate how, since so much time has passed, since the consequences of that act have already worn off, there really was the culprit, unless there is a big surprise, it doesn't matter any more

About the interlude, It would be awesome if Zoey ends up being close to Vinnie, that can be a great way of introducing Vinnie and a challenge to Dik players since they would maybe be forced to choose between their long lost love and friend or Quinn since Quinn and Vinnie's story will clash.

to create that doubt, the interlude will have to be really great...

 

[Canto Forte]

He is still in the closet about his tendencies to his own bros and you think he gives a modicum of a care to the girl he enjoyed seeing her hurt and abandonned by his lousy closet theatrics?

He did no better than any skank out there just berating her lover to make him miserable.

He made Jade miserable. Turned the tables on her. Then proceeded to befriend her girls and use them against her ... because yoo hoo, everyone privvy to his little secret is cosy with him.

There is no simpathy to be had. Remember he is still the biggest asshole to Mc in episode 7.

So no, one lousy episode 8 does not make any difference to his full assholery
throughout the entire game.

There’s also the possibility he broke up with her because he knew it was the right thing to do. It’s possible Chad did this off his own back. He’s becoming less of a douche slowly. Telling the alphas to back off the MC at the party and so on.

Him and Sage were fighting more and more. It probably wasn’t pleasant being on the receiving end of her anger. It probably wasn’t comfortable having to rebuff her sexually.

It’s possible he broke up with her not because of blackmail or someone telling him to but because maintaining this fake relationship wasn’t worth it anymore. Guess we shall see.