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shazba

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WOW ! That might be it.
The reason Zoey came to B&R.
Let me explain.So at the end of episode 8 we see pregnancy test positive. Maybe the bouncer actually was Zoey's BF.So I think he's the one who got Zoey pregnant and assuming he knows it he ran away to wherever B&R is located ( I think it's really far away for him to think it's safe) .So Zoey might have found out and is now looking for him.
If Zoey rocked up pregnant to some other dude and expected the mc (or his dad) to help, that would just suck the fun out of this game.

In real life that shit can happen, and if they are a good friend then sure, you help where you can, but it’s not fucking fun.

This game is meant to be fun, intriguing, emotional, but not just mundane real life bullshit.
 

drooopy

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If Zoey rocked up pregnant to some other dude and expected the mc (or his dad) to help, that would just suck the fun out of this game.
if this were to happen i might consider ranking this game lower, not cause of the ntr aspect(cause i don't give a shit about zoey) but cause this game has too much melodrama, there's already too many renders wasted on maya's bullshit storyline, there's no need for zoey trying to topple her.
 
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If Zoey rocked up pregnant to some other dude and expected the mc (or his dad) to help, that would just suck the fun out of this game.

In real life that shit can happen, and if they are a good friend then sure, you help where you can, but it’s not fucking fun.

This game is meant to be fun, intriguing, emotional, but not just mundane real life bullshit.
I doubt she would be smiling like that if she was pregnant. I think it's more she expects to rekindle something with the MC even though she was the one who took off and broke contact. I hope it will be kinda funny though, she shows up at B&R and DIK MC is banging half the girls on campus :LUL:

Did anyone leak preview #3 and #4 btw? Really hard to find them by searching
 
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felicemastronzo

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Zoey would be a burden without possible redemption
If Zoey rocked up pregnant to some other dude and expected the mc (or his dad) to help, that would just suck the fun out of this game.

In real life that shit can happen, and if they are a good friend then sure, you help where you can, but it’s not fucking fun.

This game is meant to be fun, intriguing, emotional, but not just mundane real life bullshit.
Zoey would be a burden without possible redemption
 

PashafromRussia

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I saw on Reddit an interesting theory about Zoey dude could be the bouncer of the bar.
But you can't see the neck tattoo, or it's very well hidden/removed?

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This leads me to believe that Zoey hasn't broken up with her boyfriend. In general, what makes you think that Zoey and her boyfriend broke up? This is not stated anywhere in the game. This dude and Zoey could have left San Diego on their own. Perhaps the tattoo parlor owned by this dude (judging by the background picture of the interlude) went bankrupt and they had a lot of debts. This guy got a job as a security guard in a bar while Zoey works as a waitress, for example. At some point, Zoey decided to remember about Tremolo and visit Neil.
DPC can turn the plot in the Sage style again, but only his opponent will not be gay, but a brutal tattoo artist.
 
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Halloween party....

MC: "Hey everyone, this is Zoey, an old friend from high school. Yeah... I banged her. Show her some DIK hospitality."
 
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mindern

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This leads me to believe that Zoey hasn't broken up with her boyfriend. In general, what makes you think that Zoey and her boyfriend broke up? This is not stated anywhere in the game. This dude and Zoey could have left San Diego on their own. Perhaps the tattoo parlor owned by this dude (judging by the background picture of the interlude) went bankrupt and they had a lot of debts. This guy got a job as a security guard in a bar while Zoey works as a waitress, for example. At some point, Zoey decided to remember about Tremolo and visit Neil.
DPC can turn the plot in the Sage style again, but only his opponent will not be gay, but a brutal tattoo artist.

Do we need another “I’m with someone else” story line? If Zoey is with this guy we may as well rename the game “Being the Other Man”.

This wouldn’t bother me in the slightest if DPC actually explored the intricacies of relationships formed this way. I don’t need to see them in relationships with other guys but if you’re gonna tell me they are I wanna see that impact the plot.

Sage is basically monkey branching from Chad to MC and nobody bats an eye. Maya/Josy both cheated and never address that, just shrug and form a triad. Bella has discussed the finer points of orchid care more than her marriage thus far… I don’t mind that the girls are in relationships but why have them in relationships if it has precisely fuck all influence on the plot? That nobody mentions it? It’s ripe for characterisation. Maya and Josy might win back some sympathy from certain elements if they showed some level of remorse. Sage could define herself as a DIK leaning character justifying her infidelity.

We just don’t see consequences of these girls being in relationships which leads me to believe it was a catch all stalling tactic. If Zoey is in a relationship or was and it’s now complicated… I’m not fucking about with that for the 5th time. All the other times it’s been to the individual story arcs detriment that they’re technically with someone else. For all the difference it makes DPC should have Zoey in the army reserves or some shit to stall romance.

“I’m sorry MC, I never looked at you that way because my mind was elsewhere thinking of those 40 days a year im in military training”

“Oh we can’t be official, my heart belongs to the 335th Signal Command.”

It would make as much sense as her being with another guy.
 

felicemastronzo

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Do we need another “I’m with someone else” story line? If Zoey is with this guy we may as well rename the game “Being the Other Man”.

This wouldn’t bother me in the slightest if DPC actually explored the intricacies of relationships formed this way. I don’t need to see them in relationships with other guys but if you’re gonna tell me they are I wanna see that impact the plot.

Sage is basically monkey branching from Chad to MC and nobody bats an eye. Maya/Josy both cheated and never address that, just shrug and form a triad. Bella has discussed the finer points of orchid care more than her marriage thus far… I don’t mind that the girls are in relationships but why have them in relationships if it has precisely fuck all influence on the plot? That nobody mentions it? It’s ripe for characterisation. Maya and Josy might win back some sympathy from certain elements if they showed some level of remorse. Sage could define herself as a DIK leaning character justifying her infidelity.

We just don’t see consequences of these girls being in relationships which leads me to believe it was a catch all stalling tactic. If Zoey is in a relationship or was and it’s now complicated… I’m not fucking about with that for the 5th time. All the other times it’s been to the individual story arcs detriment that they’re technically with someone else. For all the difference it makes DPC should have Zoey in the army reserves or some shit to stall romance.

“I’m sorry MC, I never looked at you that way because my mind was elsewhere thinking of those 40 days a year im in military training”

“Oh we can’t be official, my heart belongs to the 335th Signal Command.”

It would make as much sense as her being with another guy.
Maya and Josy are a different matter in that their story at least is real

you are right but how can you give depth to the other LIs stories when they all have to be technically illibate?

once it's established that Chad wouldn't touch Sage with a stick what does their relationship matter?
once it's established that Tybalt will do anything to win Jill over except do something sensible, why should we care about him?
when the whole world (including MC) is pretending that Bella's marriage is just a formality, what do we care about her husband?

the fact that the girls are "engaged" would be a plus in the story if it was a real obstacle, instead it is not so much that with Sage Mc had to invent the rebound guy issue otherwise he would arrive too early on the Crossroad

another iconic scene from an Italian comedy "tomorrow I'm getting married, but nothing serious".

in a context like this Zoey would be noticed more if she was free and in love with MC, that would create a real conflict, but if she arrives with her problems she would get in line
 

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But what if DPC still doesn't like it after the artist comes back with a fix? Sure, a good manager knows that at a certain point you need to accept 'good enough' and keep the project moving, but my point is that DPC is likely to be a *bad* manager! DPC is a perfectionist. As is, he can keep reworking a scene until he gets it just right. His standards won't magically change just because he hires helpers. He'll hold them to the same standards, except now he has to work through intermediaries for each iteration.
It will take *longer* than DPC doing it himself until he and the new artists develop a rapport... assuming they ever do. There are decent odds the new artist will get sick of being micromanaged and quit, at which point DPC will have to start the process all over again - and that's ignoring all the additional time spent on recruiting and and accounting.
If DPC wanted to become a manager, the growing pains might well be worth it; at the very least, it would eventually speed up production. But DPC has made it very clear he DOES NOT want to be a manager, so I very much doubt the efforts would be worthwhile.
Okay but those are all big ifs, how will we know unless he actually tries it out? There is really no risk to trying it out for a month or two, and in the end everyone will profit from such an arrangement: DPC gets more sales, while still making the game he wants to make, fans get faster releases. Why abandon such a possibility?
 

felicemastronzo

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Okay but those are all big ifs, how will we know unless he actually tries it out? There is really no risk to trying it out for a month or two, and in the end everyone will profit from such an arrangement: DPC gets more sales, while still making the game he wants to make, fans get faster releases. Why abandon such a possibility?
because he would lose out on a lot of money

he would have to share his earnings with his collaborators (the level is so high for Patreon that it is difficult to think that this could be fully compensated by an increase in donations) to achieve what result?

finish earlier... i.e. earn for less time

less money for less time, nobody would do that
 

efix9927

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Does anybody has this problem when running the exe? "
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
Exception: Could not load from archive characters.rpyc."
 

PedroBanana

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because he would lose out on a lot of money

he would have to share his earnings with his collaborators (the level is so high for Patreon that it is difficult to think that this could be fully compensated by an increase in donations) to achieve what result?

finish earlier... i.e. earn for less time

less money for less time, nobody would do that
That doesn't make any sense. More content in less time = more money in less time. Not to mention that the game is also being sold on Steam. After season 2 released on Steam it got the biggest record in players ingame - the first record was upon release of the first season on Steam, that is around 1100 players, after season 2 released it got 5700 players. The lowest playercount was in around the middle of between the release of the two seasons where player count hit less than 150 players.
 

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WOW ! That might be it.
The reason Zoey came to B&R.
Let me explain.So at the end of episode 8 we see pregnancy test positive. Maybe the bouncer actually was Zoey's BF.So I think he's the one who got Zoey pregnant and assuming he knows it he ran away to wherever B&R is located ( I think it's really far away for him to think it's safe) .So Zoey might have found out and is now looking for him.
Pretty sure you can't transmit embryos into someone's uterus over the internet.
 

shazba

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This leads me to believe that Zoey hasn't broken up with her boyfriend. In general, what makes you think that Zoey and her boyfriend broke up? This is not stated anywhere in the game. This dude and Zoey could have left San Diego on their own. Perhaps the tattoo parlor owned by this dude (judging by the background picture of the interlude) went bankrupt and they had a lot of debts. This guy got a job as a security guard in a bar while Zoey works as a waitress, for example. At some point, Zoey decided to remember about Tremolo and visit Neil.
DPC can turn the plot in the Sage style again, but only his opponent will not be gay, but a brutal tattoo artist.
That would be kinda boring.

Whilst that kinda shit is great in real life (catching up with old friends that have moved on in life can be a great fun, laughing about old time and all that), in this game, where we (the player) have not yet established an affinity with Zoey, the interest in bringing her back is not the past, but the future i.e. I don't care that the mc fucked her when he was a kid, we want to fuck her now.

Do we need another “I’m with someone else” story line? If Zoey is with this guy we may as well rename the game “Being the Other Man”.

This wouldn’t bother me in the slightest if DPC actually explored the intricacies of relationships formed this way. I don’t need to see them in relationships with other guys but if you’re gonna tell me they are I wanna see that impact the plot.

Sage is basically monkey branching from Chad to MC and nobody bats an eye. Maya/Josy both cheated and never address that, just shrug and form a triad. Bella has discussed the finer points of orchid care more than her marriage thus far… I don’t mind that the girls are in relationships but why have them in relationships if it has precisely fuck all influence on the plot? That nobody mentions it? It’s ripe for characterisation. Maya and Josy might win back some sympathy from certain elements if they showed some level of remorse. Sage could define herself as a DIK leaning character justifying her infidelity.

We just don’t see consequences of these girls being in relationships which leads me to believe it was a catch all stalling tactic. If Zoey is in a relationship or was and it’s now complicated… I’m not fucking about with that for the 5th time. All the other times it’s been to the individual story arcs detriment that they’re technically with someone else. For all the difference it makes DPC should have Zoey in the army reserves or some shit to stall romance.

“I’m sorry MC, I never looked at you that way because my mind was elsewhere thinking of those 40 days a year im in military training”

“Oh we can’t be official, my heart belongs to the 335th Signal Command.”

It would make as much sense as her being with another guy.
I agree completely. Her coming back to the game can bring some complications, but they have to be fun complications. Her coming back with a boyfriend is not a fun complication, it's a meaningless addition to the game.

Example of fun complications:

The complication: Jade having a domestic with her husband, yelling at each other through a locked door.​
The fun: The mc was fucking her doggy style the whole time. :sneaky:
The complication: The mc hiding under a table trying no to be found by Tybalt.​
The fun: He was balls deep in Cammy's ass. :sneaky:
The complication: The mc couldn't find Quinn or Sage at the prep party.​
The fun: Mel and Sarah were polishing his cock while Heather watched on, diddling herself. :oops:
The complication: The mc had to play tennis with Tybalt to interrupt his date with Jill.​
The fun: Tybalt's face and balls were destroyed by the end. :ROFLMAO:
The complication: Maya is a lesbian.​
The fun: She's a lesbian that likes the mc's cock. :unsure:
The complication: Jill is a virgin.​
The fun: Not anymore. :sneaky:

Now compare this to the idea of Zoey coming to visit with her boyfriend.

The complication: Zoey returns with a boyfriend.​
The fun: Going back and playing the first 8 episode again...​

Like others are saying. It's not about being jealous, it's about her having nothing to add to the story if she's with anther guy. She was a significant person in the mc's life. Her showing up with another guy just seems so boring...

Maya and Josy are a different matter in that their story at least is real

you are right but how can you give depth to the other LIs stories when they all have to be technically illibate?

once it's established that Chad wouldn't touch Sage with a stick what does their relationship matter?
once it's established that Tybalt will do anything to win Jill over except do something sensible, why should we care about him?
when the whole world (including MC) is pretending that Bella's marriage is just a formality, what do we care about her husband?

the fact that the girls are "engaged" would be a plus in the story if it was a real obstacle, instead it is not so much that with Sage Mc had to invent the rebound guy issue otherwise he would arrive too early on the Crossroad

another iconic scene from an Italian comedy "tomorrow I'm getting married, but nothing serious".

in a context like this Zoey would be noticed more if she was free and in love with MC, that would create a real conflict, but if she arrives with her problems she would get in line
All of the other characters' stories mattered at the time. But like all problems, once they are resolved, they don't matter anymore. But not all problems were equal:
  • Chad was an issue until he wasn't.
  • Tybalt was only ever just a speed bump.
  • Bella's story hasn't unfolded yet, I still think we're in for something unsettling with her.
The fact that they were mostly resolved without too much misery is a good thing. We don't need the issues to be so great that they scar the characters for life, at least not yet. We're still supposed to be enjoying the story.

But at the same time, if Zoey turns up and she's just got more problems for the mc to solve, that will be annoying. Her advantage will be there's gonna be an hour dedicated to her story, so by the end of it we may feel more inclined to accept her.

Okay but those are all big ifs, how will we know unless he actually tries it out? There is really no risk to trying it out for a month or two, and in the end everyone will profit from such an arrangement: DPC gets more sales, while still making the game he wants to make, fans get faster releases. Why abandon such a possibility?
There's something you keep forgetting. He prefers doing it the current way.

There is no reason why he should choose to do it differently if he's already happy with how he's doing it.

Your desire for him to churn his game out more quickly is blinding you to the fact that there is no benefit to him doing what you want.

Can you tell me one benefit for DPC?
 
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