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- Dec 27, 2017
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And that's OK, but she still didn't have to dump him in the restaurant in such a scene...
Just think about that scene. She has just received a marriage proposal from a guy for whom she has absolutely no romantic feelings or even respect. So she boils over and eviscerates him on the spot. Then here comes your MC. If she loves him, all well and good, they go off into the sunset together. But if not, given her emotional state at the moment, it would be irrational for her NOT to cut the MC off from any further notions of romance. She's too emotionally embroiled to put off that conversation to some later, more private, time. That doesn't make her a "cunt"; it makes her someone who, like most of us, doesn't always do things the way they should when under stress.
- Aug 4, 2020
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Maybe, but I'm still going with cunt!
I don't think anyone who chose Sage thought it would end happily with Jill. That Jill/Sage crossroad was like one of the biggest decisions by that point in the game. But there's no harm hating on Jill anyway.
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Don't mind shazba, he's just salty it didn't pan out when he married a Jill.
But yeah, the "Jill" I married probably wasn't worth it either.
But she had a great smile, I've never met anyone in real life whose smile is as shit as Jill's.
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- Aug 4, 2020
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That's just... the knife... deep!Don't mind shazba, he's just salty it didn't pan out when he married a Jill.
- Nov 1, 2017
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I wish to play devil's advocate for a moment since everyone thinks Jill is the devil. It is beyond dispute that Jill has not been dating and has not been satisfied to not have a romantic interest in her life. Yet, she is abnormally fearful of dating because of bad past experiences and current unwholesome offers. Therefore, it is clear that a guy who breaks this streak and wins the heart of this extremely skittish woman will have to go to extraordinary lengths. People who failed to do so are blaming the woman and not their own lack of effort. This is an extraordinary sense of entitlement. My analysis is that Jill has only had guys who want to marry her for her last name. Look and her and see a big old canvas bag with a dollar sign on it. At the time of the rejection, she just had a very unwelcome proposal that left her extraordinarily agitated and the person who put her in that situation shows up with a stupid smile on his face. This is extraordinarily bad timing, especially if he's been a feckless frat boy the whole time. The fact that this works at all is a festivus miracle and avoiding the splash damage from Tybalt's stupid proposal means that you really need to have swept her off her feet.
I still think that the picnic checkpoint is a bug, but even if it isn't I'm okay with it. Sage wasn't on her deathbed and didn't desperately need you to put weiners on her face to recover. Jill, however, had something very important to tell you, and you missed an oppportunity. Sometimes in life, one missed opportunity makes everything fall down like a game of Janga. I'm still of the opinion that all five romances are doomed. Dude is in the first term of his fresher year and other than the pair of lesbians he seduced the other LIs are in very different places in life. Sage is a fart away from graduating, Jill isn't far behind, and Bella could be his mom. None of these five scream endgame girl to me. This is why I am very interested to see where Zoey fits in. She might just be one of those people who always want to be the match that burns the house down.
I still think that the picnic checkpoint is a bug, but even if it isn't I'm okay with it. Sage wasn't on her deathbed and didn't desperately need you to put weiners on her face to recover. Jill, however, had something very important to tell you, and you missed an oppportunity. Sometimes in life, one missed opportunity makes everything fall down like a game of Janga. I'm still of the opinion that all five romances are doomed. Dude is in the first term of his fresher year and other than the pair of lesbians he seduced the other LIs are in very different places in life. Sage is a fart away from graduating, Jill isn't far behind, and Bella could be his mom. None of these five scream endgame girl to me. This is why I am very interested to see where Zoey fits in. She might just be one of those people who always want to be the match that burns the house down.
Why is it difficult for people to accept that DPC badly wrote that scene? After all, in fact, he says it with a scene: choose between a friend and a girl. And you know, if this scene had happened in reality and my friend, no matter what gender, was seriously ill, I would have done exactly the same. Girls come and go, but friends stay forever. Therefore, it seems strange to me not that Jill rejected you after that, but that Sage reacted to it normally.
I'm curious to see how Jill would react if she was rejected at the end of episode 8 after the picnic incident. After all, she usually always rejected, and then we abandoned her. I wonder if she will become a touchy and angry bitch?
I'm curious to see how Jill would react if she was rejected at the end of episode 8 after the picnic incident. After all, she usually always rejected, and then we abandoned her. I wonder if she will become a touchy and angry bitch?
The only problem with this game (which even makes me hesitate to continue playing) is the fact that it's not a Harem Game...
WHY THE DEV MAKES FEMALE CHARACTERS SO PERFECT AT THE SAME TIME IT STEALS MY POSSIBILITY OF HAVING ALL THE GIRLS D=
The trauma I had with Acting Lessons was not enough, now the dev wants to screw me with this game again =/
WHY THE DEV MAKES FEMALE CHARACTERS SO PERFECT AT THE SAME TIME IT STEALS MY POSSIBILITY OF HAVING ALL THE GIRLS D=
The trauma I had with Acting Lessons was not enough, now the dev wants to screw me with this game again =/
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- Aug 4, 2020
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I'd rather go with the flow of the game than start breaking the immersion with the idea that it was a big mistake by the game creator.
I'm not 100% sure that DPC decided that if we didn't choose Jill over Sage that one time, that it would inevitably end Jill's romance down the track, but her inner monologue at the time:
Jill: "(I can't blurt it out now... Crap...)"
Jill: "(Maybe it's a sign?)"
Jill: "(Maybe it's best to not even tell him...)"
...and what we know of her now (her stance on destiny and all that), it's quite likely that right then and there she made her mind up to wind things down with the mc. All the rest of the hoops the mc was jumping through (climbing her balcony again and all that) were too late.
The only time I modified the outcome was when Cathy left her underwear in Bella's car. As soon as she took them off, I knew it was coming back to bite us, so my mc went off script and ditched that shit before he even returned the car to Bella.
Personally I'm not a big fan of harem games. I like games like BaDIK that have significant replayability. If you go down a different path, it's almost a different game.
- Dec 27, 2017
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Hah! If you had played a CHICK route and romanced both Jill and Bella, but then chose Bella when you were forced to make a choice, you would have seen how Jill would react when she sees the MC fucking Bella.
If this path was taken, it will be a major issue in Episode 9, perhaps like the MC-Jody-Maya drama played out in Episode 5. It remains to be seen if this MC-Jill-Bella drama can be resolved satisfactorily to where they are at least on speaking terms, like the other one (eventually) was.
PinkCake loves his little dramas. Usually, they work out just fine. Well... then there's Acting Lessons. But we probably have 4 more episodes before we have to abandon someone in a burning dorm room.
- Nov 1, 2017
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I can't tell if this is amateur slam poetry or a game of mad libs gone frightfully wrong.
- Dec 27, 2017
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Yeah, that was bad news for me. It didn't bother me in my DIK routes, because I had already figured out that neither Jill nor Bella were going to fit there. Nor in my Neutral routes, since that scene with Cathy in Bella's car never went that far. But in my CHICK routes... oh my! So I just changed the damned variable. No problem! What panties?
- Sep 20, 2018
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I take your point, but allow me to advocate for... let's call it an alternate devil.
Jill is, as you say, skittish and superstitious. She has endured a number of unpleasant dates by men ranging from immature to insufferable. It seems she has come out of this ordeal believing that she'll know her Mr. Right when he sweeps her off her feet in storybook style. The MC ticks the early checkboxes, only to fail Jill's secret test of character when he doesn't recognize the unique fluke of destiny that would have allowed her to defy Tybalt properly (however she defines that). At that point Jill switches from looking for signs that the MC is the one to looking for signs that he isn't. Hence her irritation when he claims to want to spend time with her, and her disinterest in his later heroics. (And by extension, why the MC DOES sweep her off her feet if he goes on that date; his behavior is consistent with the romantic tropes Jill expects).
In and of itself that's not an unreasonable interpretation of the character. It's just that I *hate* that character. It makes Jill little more than a cardboard cutout, every bit the naive princess cliche her initial portrayal took such pains to avoid - or so it seemed. Moreover, it implies that we're going to spend Season 3 watching the MC and Jill blunder through every obvious relationship mistake in the book. I'm not sure I'm up for that, especially since I doubt Jill's branch will be the only one to suffer these sorts of setbacks.
That's a big part of why I'm so down on Zoey's flashy return; she's a lazy way to make the MC doubt his choice rather than allowing us to explore the consequences of that choice in a more open-ended manner. This sort of thing risks obviating a lot of our choices because the one choice we truly care about is denied us. We'd be forced to watch the MC crawl through "baby's first romance" for the next 4 years until we're finally reach the endgame. Definitely not what I'm hoping for after all the effort DPC spent forcing us to make what turns out to be a premature choice.
That's why I said I prefer to chalk Jill's behavior up to bad writing and ignore the larger implications. It allows Jill to be an interesting, intelligent woman, someone who struggles with her insecurities without taking it to the point of delusion. And it keeps the focus on our choices rather than calling attention to the fact the MC is on rails. YMMV, but I don't think BaDIK's pacing or college antics work nearly as well if we need the MC's relationship to hit rock bottom before it finally goes anywhere.
I have too much respect for DPC's craftsmanship to think this is a bug. Even if it was, the furor over the choice back when Episode 6 dropped should have clued him in by the time he was writing Episode 8.
If Jill had asked the MC on a date before Sage made the request, I'd agree with you that both options are viable. But with Sage making the request first (assuming you call her), the only reason to ditch Sage is metagaming. In the real world, any sane MC would just explain to Jill that he's already busy and ask for a rain check. That's as basic a socializing skill as there is.
I sincerely hope not. As I implied above, I think the MC's newly minted relationship will be tested this season and ultimately found wanting. But I also think we'll either be able to save/rekindle it at the last minute or start a new, mature relationship with a different girl in Season 4. (So technically I don't expect Jill's stinging rejection to be the final word on the matter.) That's how things look to me at the moment - which is tremendously frustrating, but at least it offers an eventual payout.
But if you're right and this whole thing is going to be a bunch of shaggy dog stories about how the MC's choices are unrealistic and can only end in abject failure, I think I might actually prefer the ending of Acting Lessons.
- Aug 26, 2019
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I feel for you a fictional character damaged your ego it really is a though world for youMaybe, but I'm still going with cunt!
I don't think anyone who chose Sage thought it would end happily with Jill. That Jill/Sage crossroad was like one of the biggest decisions by that point in the game. But there's no harm hating on Jill anyway.
- Nov 1, 2017
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I think you did a good job as the second chair. You can't always represent a client you like, after all. I think that it might be of value to reserve judgment on what Zoey's purpose in the story is going to be until we actually know. I think that there are going to be an equal number of people that are disappointed if she ends up being a love interest as will be if she isn't. This is because the MC has already stated that didn't love her, yet the music played during her flashbacks tell a somewhat different story than the one he told Bella with his mouth. (Let's take a moment to recognize how much the musical choices of some of these scenes do a lot of the emotional heavy lifting) He also expressed to Sage that he felt that their relationship was unresolved, without closure. If Zoey shows up just to be his buddy or a devil on his shoulder that might be one of the more controversial decisions in an already controversial game. But we won't know until the interlude comes out, so we should probably hold our horses and keep our powder dry.I take your point, but allow me to advocate for... let's call it an alternate devil.
Jill is, as you say, skittish and superstitious. She has endured a number of unpleasant dates by men ranging from immature to insufferable. It seems she has come out of this ordeal believing that she'll know her Mr. Right when he sweeps her off her feet in storybook style. The MC ticks the early checkboxes, only to fail Jill's secret test of character when he doesn't recognize the unique fluke of destiny that would have allowed her to defy Tybalt properly (however she defines that). At that point Jill switches from looking for signs that the MC is the one to looking for signs that he isn't. Hence her irritation when he claims to want to spend time with her, and her disinterest in his later heroics. (And by extension, why the MC DOES sweep her off her feet if he goes on that date; his behavior is consistent with the romantic tropes Jill expects).
In and of itself that's not an unreasonable interpretation of the character. It's just that I *hate* that character. It makes Jill little more than a cardboard cutout, every bit the naive princess cliche her initial portrayal took such pains to avoid - or so it seemed. Moreover, it implies that we're going to spend Season 3 watching the MC and Jill blunder through every obvious relationship mistake in the book. I'm not sure I'm up for that, especially since I doubt Jill's branch will be the only one to suffer these sorts of setbacks.
That's a big part of why I'm so down on Zoey's flashy return; she's a lazy way to make the MC doubt his choice rather than allowing us to explore the consequences of that choice in a more open-ended manner. This sort of thing risks obviating a lot of our choices because the one choice we truly care about is denied us. We'd be forced to watch the MC crawl through "baby's first romance" for the next 4 years until we're finally reach the endgame. Definitely not what I'm hoping for after all the effort DPC spent forcing us to make what turns out to be a premature choice.
That's why I said I prefer to chalk Jill's behavior up to bad writing and ignore the larger implications. It allows Jill to be an interesting, intelligent woman, someone who struggles with her insecurities without taking it to the point of delusion. And it keeps the focus on our choices rather than calling attention to the fact the MC is on rails. YMMV, but I don't think BaDIK's pacing or college antics work nearly as well if we need the MC's relationship to hit rock bottom before it finally goes anywhere.
I have too much respect for DPC's craftsmanship to think this is a bug. Even if it was, the furor over the choice back when Episode 6 dropped should have clued him in by the time he was writing Episode 8.
If Jill had asked the MC on a date before Sage made the request, I'd agree with you that both options are viable. But with Sage making the request first (assuming you call her), the only reason to ditch Sage is metagaming. In the real world, any sane MC would just explain to Jill that he's already busy and ask for a rain check. That's as basic a socializing skill as there is.
I sincerely hope not. As I implied above, I think the MC's newly minted relationship will be tested this season and ultimately found wanting. But I also think we'll either be able to save/rekindle it at the last minute or start a new, mature relationship with a different girl in Season 4. (So technically I don't expect Jill's stinging rejection to be the final word on the matter.) That's how things look to me at the moment - which is tremendously frustrating, but at least it offers an eventual payout.
But if you're right and this whole thing is going to be a bunch of shaggy dog stories about how the MC's choices are unrealistic and can only end in abject failure, I think I might actually prefer the ending of Acting Lessons.
- Jul 7, 2017
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I don't know if DPC enjoys dramas more, but having a drama makes a later happy ending more meaningful and makes it stand out.
- Jul 7, 2017
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You have a thought error though. If Jill was such a good person and felt something honestly for the MC, Jill could have suggested another date to the MC, which she did not.
You also note that Jill doesn't even know that the MC helped his sick friend Sage. Jill doesn't even give the MC a chance to explain why he couldn't have a date with Jill.
Conclusion: Jill doesn't even want to share the MC with friends. Mmmmhhh. What is Jill accusing Tybalt of? That he wants to control which friends Jill can date. Double standard on Jill's part. Jill and Tybalt deserve each other.
- Mar 29, 2019
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Says the guy that tells us what he thinks and acts like he is backing up his thoughts with facts (which you did none of). You're free to think whatever you want, but to keep telling people they are wrong because they think different than you is retarded.
I'm done trying to push this rope uphill, so that's that.
when did Jill started receiving Maya level of hateYou have a thought error though. If Jill was such a good person and felt something honestly for the MC, Jill could have suggested another date to the MC, which she did not.
You also note that Jill doesn't even know that the MC helped his sick friend Sage. Jill doesn't even give the MC a chance to explain why he couldn't have a date with Jill.
Conclusion: Jill doesn't even want to share the MC with friends. Mmmmhhh. What is Jill accusing Tybalt of? That he wants to control which friends Jill can date. Double standard on Jill's part. Jill and Tybalt deserve each other.
She is one of the best thing happening for the MC ( aside from Sage the best girl BTW)
For Jill the birthday date was originally meant to be her climax of romance with MC , it was a break up date , so by rejecting Jill its basically just break up
All jill wanted was to help her friend in her own naive way
it was DPC that fucked up the whole situation again like some infamous house fire