VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Garen]

Dude, that's the Imperial Japanese flag, fuck off with that shit.

Jesus Christ, what is wrong with you?

Unlike the Nazis who had a flag made to represent their ideology, the Rising Sun flag has been part of Japan long before they invaded the rest of Asia.

At that point, you might as well ask the UK and other Europeans to remove their flags given their history with colonisation.

 

[forthewins]

This thread really is too big to find anything in it, haha.

At the end of episode 8 there's that cutscene showing the DIK house at halloween, then they show something sitting on the porch with a "Dun dun dunnnn!!!!!" type sound.

What on earth was that thing? I couldn't tell.

 

[xiaofein]

This thread really is too big to find anything in it, haha.

At the end of episode 8 there's that cutscene showing the DIK house at halloween, then they show something sitting on the porch with a "Dun dun dunnnn!!!!!" type sound.

What on earth was that thing? I couldn't tell.

I think it just a signal about the Halloween party.

 

[NewTricks]

It seems to me that what is not credible is episode 8 and not the interlude and its consequent dilemma.
The cross road was so poorly executed that it is not believable at all, that choice is weak and almost meaningless.
The doubt created from what was told in the interlude is much better handled than "the decision" was. Besides this doubt doesn't involve the MC yet, we could believe from what we saw that the MC has unfinished business, but maybe it's not, it's just an excuse for Zoet to chase the MC, like Ems to Bret.

I'm kinda with you that the picking one girl thing seemed like a false choice for fake drama, but it made me feel some kind of way so it wasn't all bad. I just don't think that it closes any books if you know what I mean. My feeling on why it feel flat with so many people is that it wasn't like any of the girls were asking him to do it. Bella saw him as a boy toy. Sage a fuckbuddy. Josy and Maya concretely asked to have an open relationship for obvious reasons. Jill was just perpetually confused and apprehensive about even dating, much less commitment. So Tremolo had zero pressure from anybody to make a decision. So without any kind of motivation other than a conversation over breakfast with the two most wanton and maladjusted couples he could find he decided he wanted desperately to be a part of a couple. What what what? So it is hard to think that this impulsive decision is going to stick, especially since he didn't even bother to tell Maya and Josy one way or another if he chose them or not.

TLDR; this one true pairing choice from CH8 is probably not going to be the status quo and nobody should be worried about Zoey ruining anything. Life is going to do the job for her.

 

[goldenrule91]

Remember Zoey hadn't intended to end her relationship with the mc for good. She wanted him to go with her. And then when he chose to finish high school, she was still hoping he'd join her later.

Things got muddied when Zoey got lousy advice from her new friends and when the mc got the impression she'd found a new boyfriend.

But initially, and finally, Zoey actually wanted to be with Fuckface.

So that's why she returned in the end, when she realised her dream was nonsense and she was already happy before.

To ask, "Why now?", well shit happens when it happens. Often it happens when it's not very convenient (of course it would have been more convenient if she'd been around all along for the mc to line her up all the girls he liked and make his choice, but this isn't "The Bachelor"...).

When the mc made his choice, it only included the girls he had in front of him. It wasn't a surprise that he finally decided to stop stringing the girls along, he'd been feeling guilty about doing it for a while, so because he did like them, he decided to let them go. He may be a DIK, but overall he's a good guy.

But now Zoey arrives when the mc has moved on, except the only reason he moved on was because he thought she moved on. If that misunderstanding hadn't happened, the mc may have ended up travelling to San Diego and this would have been a completely different story.

But that didn't happen, and now it's going to get complicated.

And one of the main reasons for the complication is that Zoey has come back because she wants to be with the mc.

That's a big difference when compared with the rest of the LIs.

• Jill kinda fell into a relationship with the mc. She's nice to him and all that, but until the end of episode 8, it's not like she's heavily pursuing him,
• Bella spent half her time with the mc trying to fend him off and then giving into her own need for sexual attention. If the mc dumps her, she's sad but she'll get over it,
• Josy really likes the mc but she's pretty much just going with the flow (although of all the main LIs, she seems to be in love with him the most),
• Maya is mostly wrapped up in her own feelings, amazed that she's actually not a lesbian and also just seeing where things will take them; and
• Sage has actually been very forward towards the mc, but she's hardly phased at all when he denies her advances or ends things with her.

But Zoey is coming back for the mc, he's what she wants in her future. She's not going to give up without a fight.

Of course the mc could just tell her to fuck off, and I'm sure some players would like just that, but I doubt very much that's what's in store for the game. I'd be surprised if she's just going to be a cameo in the next episode.

The fact that she finished high school via correspondence means she's set up to somehow become art of B&R.

So my guess is she's here to stay. She is going to rock the boat a bit, but in the end I wouldn't be worried about not being able stay with the LI of your choosing, it's just more drama. That's pretty much what this game is all about anyway.

Shaz... not even mentioning Quinn with the other LIs? Extremely unbased post, downvoted + unsubscribed + reported

I agree with your overall conclusion about Zoey's inclusion being drama bait, but people seem to be under some misapprehensions about Zoey and the MC's relationship. Maybe they misread the Interlude or are reading past the text and into the context deeper than I am, but Zoey didn't think they were in a relationship at all, like literally the MC was just a best friend to her.

Spoiler: She says that verbatim to Bret

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And in fact, as you can see from the last shot there, her pussy totally dried up at the MC "being a bit of a softie" i.e. acting like a boyfriend at all Zoey is literally the most DIK girl in this game so far, I mean even Quinn and Lily appreciate some affection in private.

So we don't actually know whether she wants to be in a relationship with the MC, she is definitely looking to reconnect with her 'best friend' but does she want to be boyfriend/girlfriend? In addition to her aversion to expressing affection, in one of the final shots of the Interlude she doesn't actually say she wants to be with the MC in the end, only that she loves her hometown and the "people" there:

Spoiler: Muh hometown

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I honestly don't know what Zoey's motives are or where she's gonna go in the story, only that it seems to me that this isn't some kind of Jill-type romance plot where she's returning to win the MC's heart. The actual truth is she didn't think she was in a relationship with the MC and was even uncomfortable with him acting like they were, went to another city and wasted all her inheritance on a dumb dream, got her naked tits and ass posted all over the internet and then decided home isn't actually that bad My DIK MC is probably gonna give her the walk of shame treatment but that's about it for her.

 

[ename144]

Remember Zoey hadn't intended to end her relationship with the mc for good. She wanted him to go with her. And then when he chose to finish high school, she was still hoping he'd join her later.

Things got muddied when Zoey got lousy advice from her new friends and when the mc got the impression she'd found a new boyfriend.

But initially, and finally, Zoey actually wanted to be with Fuckface.

So that's why she returned in the end, when she realised her dream was nonsense and she was already happy before.

To ask, "Why now?", well shit happens when it happens. Often it happens when it's not very convenient (of course it would have been more convenient if she'd been around all along for the mc to line her up all the girls he liked and make his choice, but this isn't "The Bachelor"...).

I get that, but a) it takes two to tango and I'm just not interested in Zoey nearly as much as the other LIs, b) the Interlude didn't do a great job illustrating her arc.

I can understand what's supposed to be happening on an intellectual level, but it doesn't connect beyond that because DPC screwed up the sequencing. We needed to get to know Zoey before we were asked to pick a favorite, and the Interlude didn't delve nearly deep enough into their relationship to offset that handicap.

When the mc made his choice, it only included the girls he had in front of him. It wasn't a surprise that he finally decided to stop stringing the girls along, he'd been feeling guilty about doing it for a while, so because he did like them, he decided to let them go. He may be a DIK, but overall he's a good guy.

But now Zoey arrives when the mc has moved on, except the only reason he moved on was because he thought she moved on. If that misunderstanding hadn't happened, the mc may have ended up travelling to San Diego and this would have been a completely different story.

But that didn't happen, and now it's going to get complicated.

Right, in other words he didn't take the decision seriously. If he had, he'd have realized it implied a commitment lasting longer than "until something better comes along." One of the points Elena made was that he should stop leading the girls on when he wasn't serious about a relationship. If he was only settling for these LIs because Zoey was off the table (or because Maya/Josy were off the table individually, for that matter), he wasn't listening. As I said, the MC should pick Others in that case.

Granted, it's always possible the MC made a mistake and overestimated his affection for his chosen LI. I'm not saying Zoey can't get a path. But if so, it should really be up to us to opt; telling us the MC was too dumb to take the choice seriously will only kill our investment the next time DPC insists we make a big choice.

More importantly, there's no reason to think Zoey in particular is the one whose importance he underestimated. He has far better chemistry with the other LIs, IMHO. I'd much sooner believe he regrets the decision for one of them than Zoey. Using Zoey as a universal 'choosers remorse' path might be efficient from a production standpoint, but it's going to come across as a second-class substitute.

And one of the main reasons for the complication is that Zoey has come back because she wants to be with the mc.

That's a big difference when compared with the rest of the LIs.

• Jill kinda fell into a relationship with the mc. She's nice to him and all that, but until the end of episode 8, it's not like she's heavily pursuing him,
• Bella spent half her time with the mc trying to fend him off and then giving into her own need for sexual attention. If the mc dumps her, she's sad but she'll get over it,
• Josy really likes the mc but she's pretty much just going with the flow (although of all the main LIs, she seems to be in love with him the most),
• Maya is mostly wrapped up in her own feelings, amazed that she's actually not a lesbian and also just seeing where things will take them; and
• Sage has actually been very forward towards the mc, but she's hardly phased at all when he denies her advances or ends things with her.

Nonsense. By the time Zoey calls him, all 5 of the LIs have expressed their feelings more directly *to the MC* than Zoey has articulated her feeling to *herself*. Hell, Quinn wants to be with the MC so badly even her HOT sisters tease her about it! Wanting to be with the MC is about the least distinctive trait a female character can have in this game!

But Zoey is coming back for the mc, he's what she wants in her future. She's not going to give up without a fight.

Of course the mc could just tell her to fuck off, and I'm sure some players would like just that, but I doubt very much that's what's in store for the game. I'd be surprised if she's just going to be a cameo in the next episode.

The fact that she finished high school via correspondence means she's set up to somehow become art of B&R.

So my guess is she's here to stay. She is going to rock the boat a bit, but in the end I wouldn't be worried about not being able stay with the LI of your choosing, it's just more drama. That's pretty much what this game is all about anyway.

I'm not worried Zoey is going to permanently derail my preferred LI. I'm worried she's going to kill my interest in Season 3 because instead of seeing the MC build upon a well-established relationship I care about, I'm going to be stuck watching him agonize over a non-existent relationship I don't care about. 4 episodes would be a long time to pad out the game with obvious filler.

Zoey was supposedly the MC's best friend, but judging by the Interlude the key to their relationship was the MC being good in the sack. She talks a bit about how much she likes his down-to-earth personality, but the only time we actually see their friendship on display was during the Z-chord scene... which was also about his big dick, come to think of it.

That puts Zoey roughly on the same level as Nichole, IMHO. Now, I like Nichole. I'd be happy to give her a big part in Season 3. But I'd be pretty pissed off if her role was to make the MC agonize between choosing her over his LI. And yet that's exactly what is being suggested with Zoey. Screw that noise.


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TLDR; this one true pairing choice from CH8 is probably not going to be the status quo and nobody should be worried about Zoey ruining anything. Life is going to do the job for her.

I hope that will be the case, but I don't trust DPC to keep his thumb off the scale.

 

[PashafromRussia]

Remember Zoey hadn't intended to end her relationship with the mc for good. She wanted him to go with her. And then when he chose to finish high school, she was still hoping he'd join her later.

Things got muddied when Zoey got lousy advice from her new friends and when the mc got the impression she'd found a new boyfriend.

But initially, and finally, Zoey actually wanted to be with Fuckface.

So that's why she returned in the end, when she realised her dream was nonsense and she was already happy before.

To ask, "Why now?", well shit happens when it happens. Often it happens when it's not very convenient (of course it would have been more convenient if she'd been around all along for the mc to line her up all the girls he liked and make his choice, but this isn't "The Bachelor"...).

When the mc made his choice, it only included the girls he had in front of him. It wasn't a surprise that he finally decided to stop stringing the girls along, he'd been feeling guilty about doing it for a while, so because he did like them, he decided to let them go. He may be a DIK, but overall he's a good guy.

But now Zoey arrives when the mc has moved on, except the only reason he moved on was because he thought she moved on. If that misunderstanding hadn't happened, the mc may have ended up travelling to San Diego and this would have been a completely different story.

But that didn't happen, and now it's going to get complicated.

And one of the main reasons for the complication is that Zoey has come back because she wants to be with the mc.

That's a big difference when compared with the rest of the LIs.

• Jill kinda fell into a relationship with the mc. She's nice to him and all that, but until the end of episode 8, it's not like she's heavily pursuing him,
• Bella spent half her time with the mc trying to fend him off and then giving into her own need for sexual attention. If the mc dumps her, she's sad but she'll get over it,
• Josy really likes the mc but she's pretty much just going with the flow (although of all the main LIs, she seems to be in love with him the most),
• Maya is mostly wrapped up in her own feelings, amazed that she's actually not a lesbian and also just seeing where things will take them; and
• Sage has actually been very forward towards the mc, but she's hardly phased at all when he denies her advances or ends things with her.

But Zoey is coming back for the mc, he's what she wants in her future. She's not going to give up without a fight.

Of course the mc could just tell her to fuck off, and I'm sure some players would like just that, but I doubt very much that's what's in store for the game. I'd be surprised if she's just going to be a cameo in the next episode.

The fact that she finished high school via correspondence means she's set up to somehow become art of B&R.

So my guess is she's here to stay. She is going to rock the boat a bit, but in the end I wouldn't be worried about not being able stay with the LI of your choosing, it's just more drama. That's pretty much what this game is all about anyway.

I would not want the role of Zoya to be so technical, and she herself a devalued character whose meaning of life is to destroy the supposed happiness of Tremolo. I agree that with Zoey, Pink has more tools to create drama, especially for Jill, who doesn't seem to be used to the competition that rejects Tremolo just because he didn't eat sandwiches with her at a picnic.

An additional complication is that there was no official break up between them. They just stopped communicating. Zoey will certainly understand Tremolo if he starts dating other girls and will even be proud of him, but it is unlikely to accept.
She will be like a snowball and her influence will manifest itself more and more in the life of Tremolo.

The final twist of the entire season will be a choice between Zoey and a love interest. I think the main goal of Zoey from Pink's side is to show the drama of infidelity, this is a necessary evil and the hero is unlikely to refuse to fuck with Zoey even if he loved with all his heart, for example, Jill all 2 seasons. This primarily concerns Jill, who seems to have no rivals on the horizon at all.

 

[PashafromRussia]

Nonsense. By the time Zoey calls him, all 5 of the LIs have expressed their feelings more directly *to the MC* than Zoey has articulated her feeling to *herself*. Hell, Quinn wants to be with the MC so badly even her HOT sisters tease her about it! Wanting to be with the MC is about the least distinctive trait a female character can have in this game!

I disagree. We know much more about Zoya than about our LI. Zoey is now the most developed character in the game. She is now essentially the second protagonist, as advinced by that the choice in the interlude will affect her character.

 

[Daken9]

Lowkey, i wonder if the people who are well predisposed towards Zoey, or even think she has any right to 'fight' for the MC, would still believe the same if she'd gone and fucked someone else.

Because personally, with how Zoey otherwise behaved, that's just about the last thing i care about. And indeed, i'd be extremely disappointed if the MC was made into some 2IQ human slug whose sole take on this girl hinges on wether or not she fucked someone else, rather than treating the whole thing as the tip of the iceberg that it is.

Probably what's gonna happen though, since DCP has a history of turning poor Tremolo into a dumb sucker for drama.

 

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wow is it for real 3season?

 

[felicemastronzo]

But why? Why would the MC think the cards have changed just because his ex returns? That's what I don't quite get.

I realize the MC didn't expect Zoey to return now, but he does remember how he felt about her. The whole point of the crossroads was that someone was going to get hurt if the MC kept pursuing multiple girls. He (supposedly) searched his heart and decided which girl was right for him - if any.

Assuming he did pick a girl(s), doesn't that imply he's at least as serious about her as he was about Zoey? If so, then trying to pursue Zoey now will only end in someone getting hurt; that's not a new card, it's just another copy of an existing card. If not, shouldn't that have been the clue that none of these relationships were ready for prime time? He knows this isn't what true love feels like, so at that point he's just leading the girl on for sex - which should be what the Others path is for.

To me, this is the big sticking point. Zoey's return just isn't enough to justify rethinking what was portrayed as a major decision. I understand the MC is surprised and will likely have to deal with some old baggage, but that's a far cry from reshuffling the whole deck. If the MC isn't going to agonize over, say, breaking up with Sage to pursue Jill, he shouldn't agonize over formalizing his breakup with Zoey, either. To do so would only indicate the crossroad was as trivial as it was forced.

I agree with you, but we're talking about the MC who got outraged about Josy and Maya's relationship, while he himself could be getting into other girls' pants left and right.

He is more mature now but it may not be enough, I've seen it happen irl, couples who have been together for years, then a sudden ex reappears and fucks everything up. Zoey's still fresh on MC's mind so he'll be even more vulnerable to those type of internal conflicts... I just hope DPC gives us players the final say in the matter and doesn't force us into temporary break-ups right after we've chosen a LI.

It seems to me that what is not credible is episode 8 and not the interlude and its consequent dilemma.
The cross road was so poorly executed that it is not believable at all, that choice is weak and almost meaningless.
The doubt created from what was told in the interlude is much better handled than "the decision" was. Besides this doubt doesn't involve the MC yet, we could believe from what we saw that the MC has unfinished business, but maybe it's not, it's just an excuse for Zoet to chase the MC, like Ems to Bret.

the decision of chapter 8 has been given too much pomposity, but in reality it is simply a guy who, after having dated several girls at the same time, thinks that in order to avoid someone getting hurt in the end it is time to stop, and at that point he asks himself if he wants to continue one of these 4 relationships (because he can also decide not to)

it's not an engagement, it's not a promise of fidelity, it's just Mc choosing which of the 4 relationships he cares most about (2 of which are inherently fragile)

the fact is that MC will have to listen to what Zoey has to say and he cannot be indifferent, and this regardless of the interlude.

the interlude was meant to make the dilemma credible for us players, but it is undeniable that it is for MC. let's stop telling this story of the best friend... there are those who do not believe in male-female friendship, let alone if they have sex... if the first love wants to talk to you, you listen to her, and regardless of your current sentimental situation, thinking about what could have been is inevitable

a bit like what happened with Josy, the game starts and we are told that she is our big crush, we have to believe it. in fact with Zoey the same thing is done, but we are in the middle of the game, and the interlude would like to convince us of this, but even if it had failed completely the substance remains

I don't think Zoey will be the drama that will permeate the entire third season (in the end even the escape from Maya and Josy lasted only one chapter), but even if she is it will be better than the blackmailing of Tybalt that is the only main theme of the second one

I disagree. We know much more about Zoya than about our LI. Zoey is now the most developed character in the game. She is now essentially the second protagonist, as advinced by that the choice in the interlude will affect her character.

but it's not true...

MC probably knows Zoey better than the other LIs, but what do we know about her?
she got an hour of content all at once, the other LIs got more space in a more diluted amount of time

 

[Gallion]

I disagree. We know much more about Zoya than about our LI. Zoey is now the most developed character in the game. She is now essentially the second protagonist, as advinced by that the choice in the interlude will affect her character.

That's interesting, and it could explained why DPC made an interlude about her instead of making a little segment at the intro of the 9th episode for example like he used to do since episode 4.

Because at the end, we don't really learned so much stuff about the whole episode.
It's just explained in detail why and how she's gone to San Diego and why she's back but we basically already know the global aspect based from the story the MC tells to Bella at EP3 and her appearance at the end of the EP8.
So I think, as well as Quinn, she's going to be (for now) a major "unofficial" LI, the 5 main LI will continue to be the poster girls of the game I suppose and having probably more contents than the others but they're not necessary being more important.

And let's not forget that for now that unlike the others girls, Zoey does not (yet) get any impact for the choice we made and it's possible that it's the reason why some person are not necessary thrilled by her story for now.

Personally I can't wait to see the reunion scene with the MC.

 

[Anon.1337]

Is there offical guide for season 3 cuz i cant find one ?

 

[Walter Victor]

A Naive User: Hey DPC I'm a 100$ Tier thanks to F9...
A Naive User: What happened? Why can't I comment?

For smaller games it's more like a free advertisement site, but I can see why someone that already receives infinite money, from people paying for his game, doesn't want to give them any ideas...

Right. DrPinkCake would rather lose your $100 than see a stampede of $5-10 Patrons out of Patreon to here. It's ruthless, but he knows what he's doing.

So I would amend the statement, 'never mention F95 anywhere else' to 'never mention F95 on any site that you have to log into and is likely to have the developer read it'.

 

[Killerwhale5678]

I disagree. We know much more about Zoya than about our LI. Zoey is now the most developed character in the game. She is now essentially the second protagonist, as advinced by that the choice in the interlude will affect her character.

I doubt DPC will go through the trouble of writing and coding two different personalities for Zoey

 

[shazba]

Shaz... not even mentioning Quinn with the other LIs? Extremely unbased post, downvoted + unsubscribed + reported

I agree with your overall conclusion about Zoey's inclusion being drama bait, but people seem to be under some misapprehensions about Zoey and the MC's relationship. Maybe they misread the Interlude or are reading past the text and into the context deeper than I am, but Zoey didn't think they were in a relationship at all, like literally the MC was just a best friend to her.

Spoiler: She says that verbatim to Bret

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And in fact, as you can see from the last shot there, her pussy totally dried up at the MC "being a bit of a softie" i.e. acting like a boyfriend at all Zoey is literally the most DIK girl in this game so far, I mean even Quinn and Lily appreciate some affection in private.

So we don't actually know whether she wants to be in a relationship with the MC, she is definitely looking to reconnect with her 'best friend' but does she want to be boyfriend/girlfriend? In addition to her aversion to expressing affection, in one of the final shots of the Interlude she doesn't actually say she wants to be with the MC in the end, only that she loves her hometown and the "people" there:

Spoiler: Muh hometown

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I honestly don't know what Zoey's motives are or where she's gonna go in the story, only that it seems to me that this isn't some kind of Jill-type romance plot where she's returning to win the MC's heart. The actual truth is she didn't think she was in a relationship with the MC and was even uncomfortable with him acting like they were, went to another city and wasted all her inheritance on a dumb dream, got her naked tits and ass posted all over the internet and then decided home isn't actually that bad My DIK MC is probably gonna give her the walk of shame treatment but that's about it for her.

I dunno, that final scene on the train, perhaps it was intentionally left as ambiguous, but I always read it that it was the mc that brought that smile on her face:

Spoiler: She's reminiscing about the good and bad times

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Spoiler: And she was struggling to grasp what it was she was missing the most

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Spoiler: Until she looked at the picture of good old Fucky McFuckface on the train

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Spoiler: And then all the apprehension disappears

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The fact that she says "The feeling I tried to hard to push back and ignore." wasn't just that she missed her mom.

And her reference to "Home Blindness." wasn't just that home had some good things there.

She was kidding herself that she didn't have feelings for the mc. And she'd been doing it for so long she'd almost convince herself.

All that time in the past, she took the mc for granted. They hung out all the time, pretty much lived in each other's houses.

Spoiler: And she planned for him to be in her future.

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Her exact words, "...he can come to join me". Not "visit me". She wanted them to be back together in the future.

She doesn't like talking about feelings, so she never put a name to what it was she felt for the mc other than they were "friends".

But a friend who:

• You hang out with all the time
• You fuck regularly
• You kiss spontaneously
• You want to be with in the future
• You doodle their face on a fucking train
• You simply just smile when you think of them
• You reminisce about when you're alone in your room
• Is the only person in your diary other than your mom, your grandma and god (at least the first half of her diary until she went to San Diego)

There's a name for that kind of relationship, and it's not "friend with benefits".

Spoiler: She loves him

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[sixart]

I dunno, that final scene on the train, perhaps it was intentionally left as ambiguous, but I always read it that it was the mc that brought that smile on her face:

Spoiler: She's reminiscing about the good and bad times

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Spoiler: And she was struggling to grasp what it was she was missing the most

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Spoiler: Until she looked at the picture of good old Fucky McFuckface on the train

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Spoiler: And then all the apprehension disappears

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Spoiler: Home blindness

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The fact that she says "The feeling I tried to hard to push back and ignore." wasn't just that she missed her mom.

And her reference to "Home Blindness." wasn't just that home had some good things there.

She was kidding herself that she didn't have feelings for the mc. And she'd been doing it for so long she'd almost convince herself.

All that time in the past, she took the mc for granted. They hung out all the time, pretty much lived in each other's houses.

Spoiler: And she planned for him to be in her future.

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Her exact words, "...he can come to join me". Not "visit me". She wanted them to be back together in the future.

She doesn't like talking about feelings, so she never put a name to what it was she felt for the mc other than they were "friends".

But a friend who:

• You hang out with all the time
• You fuck regularly
• You kiss spontaneously
• You want to be with in the future
• You doodle their face on a fucking train
• You simply just smile when you think of them
• You reminisce about when you're alone in your room
• Is the only person in your diary other than your mom, your grandma and god (at least the first half of her diary until she went to San Diego)

There's a name for that kind of relationship, and it's not "friend with benefits".

Spoiler: She loves him

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True... just the little thing was missing... telling these feelings to Fuckface when it was time ( departure ) ... now it's a missed opportunity and a late realization of a possibility... dependent on every player must be decided how to handle this situation I already said mine buncha folks did too theirs...

 

[Daken9]

I dunno, that final scene on the train, perhaps it was intentionally left as ambiguous, but I always read it that it was the mc that brought that smile on her face:

Spoiler: She's reminiscing about the good and bad times

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Spoiler: And she was struggling to grasp what it was she was missing the most

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Spoiler: Until she looked at the picture of good old Fucky McFuckface on the train

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Spoiler: And then all the apprehension disappears

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Spoiler: Home blindness

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The fact that she says "The feeling I tried to hard to push back and ignore." wasn't just that she missed her mom.

And her reference to "Home Blindness." wasn't just that home had some good things there.

She was kidding herself that she didn't have feelings for the mc. And she'd been doing it for so long she'd almost convince herself.

All that time in the past, she took the mc for granted. They hung out all the time, pretty much lived in each other's houses.

Spoiler: And she planned for him to be in her future.

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Her exact words, "...he can come to join me". Not "visit me". She wanted them to be back together in the future.

She doesn't like talking about feelings, so she never put a name to what it was she felt for the mc other than they were "friends".

But a friend who:

• You hang out with all the time
• You fuck regularly
• You kiss spontaneously
• You want to be with in the future
• You doodle their face on a fucking train
• You simply just smile when you think of them
• You reminisce about when you're alone in your room
• Is the only person in your diary other than your mom, your grandma and god (at least the first half of her diary until she went to San Diego)

There's a name for that kind of relationship, and it's not "friend with benefits".

Spoiler: She loves him

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That's all well and good, and perhaps i myself just ought take into account what DCP wanted this character to be rather than what he somewhat failed to convey, but if you look purely at her actions and the context of them i don't see how you could say she cares about the guy in any meaningful way, much less love him.

I mean, sure, maybe they hanged out all the time and fucked a lot, but she also dropped him as soon as she had the chance to, cut all contacts at the first coming of new besties, and finally was only spurred into reflecting about what she'd left behind after wasting all her money and getting backstabbed. And for the sake of brevety i'm not going into deep diver stuff like how Tremolo and his dad can't even afford a tv or a car, or a decent house really, yet Zoey still spent 0.0$ of her inheritance into getting something for her dirt poor best bud.

Like, again, maybe i ought just analyze this with a different gear, but dunno. I understood Sage had layers all the way back in E1 when she gave up the guitar, her leverage for getting MC to help with Chad, as soon he mentioned it being a gift from his dad. The interlude had likely more Zoey than there was Sage in the first season combined, and i can't say there was one scene that sold me on the character - or her layers, or her friendship with the MC - half as well.

 

[shazba]

Right, in other words he didn't take the decision seriously. If he had, he'd have realized it implied a commitment lasting longer than "until something better comes along." One of the points Elena made was that he should stop leading the girls on when he wasn't serious about a relationship. If he was only settling for these LIs because Zoey was off the table (or because Maya/Josy were off the table individually, for that matter), he wasn't listening. As I said, the MC should pick Others in that case.

But he's only 19.

He shouldn't necessarily be looking for a long term relationship anyway, that doesn't mean it's not bad form to be leading a bunch of girls on.

Of course even if he was in a relationship with just one girl, the expectations shouldn't be towards marriage at that age, the expectations should be, "Let's get to know each other a little more seriously and not fuck other people behind each other's back".

I always say the mc is a nice guy, even down the DIK path, but in reality, I would never be trying to convince girls that I wanted "something more" while fucking other girls at the same time.

In that sense, the mc has been a prick.

Girls like Mel, Riona and even Sage initially aren't a problem. It was pretty obvious it was meant to be sex with no strings attached. Shit got more serious with Sage but that came later.

But with Maya, Josy, Jill and Bella, he was definitely playing with their heart strings, and he fucking knew it (hence his pangs of guilt from time-to-time). And even with Sage, he kept pushing that he wanted more, all the while he's still fucking other girls.

It's quite possible he actually panicked into making his decision because they were all getting to know each other (4 out of 5 of the LIs were at Jill's recital all congratulating her). Shit was about to get real awkward if he didn't do something soon.

Spoiler: Oh fuck! Too late...

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So at that age, it's actually good to keep your options open, while still being respectful to the girl you're with.

But if you do realise you've made a mistake, you shouldn't be bound by it.

For fuck's sake, sorry Bella fans, but it would be madness to end up with Bella, an unhinged, angry, scary looking, (potentially literal) skeletons in the closet, weighed down with baggage psycho, whom the mc actually knows pretty much fuck all about, over Zoey, his childhood friend that he gets on with like a house on fire (ok, bad use of phrase given the dev).

All in all, I think the Interlude did what it was meant to do. Give players a chance to like Zoey. Sure, not everyone has been won over, but not everyone likes Jill, Bella, Sage, Maya or Josy (whom am I kidding, everyone likes Josy!).

So the only mistake DPC can make going forward is assuming that everyone has been taken in by Zoey. She will have an impact, but as long as she doesn't completely derail everyone (especially those who have no interest in her), then no harm.

I'm not worried Zoey is going to permanently derail my preferred LI. I'm worried she's going to kill my interest in Season 3 because instead of seeing the MC build upon a well-established relationship I care about, I'm going to be stuck watching him agonize over a non-existent relationship I don't care about. 4 episodes would be a long time to pad out the game with obvious filler.

This is where you and I significantly differ. I don't really care for the relationships to be strengthened. I'm just happy for the story to proceed an the mc can be with one girl or the other.

I don't really have an investment in any of the girls, and that's not something I care about in these games.

Of course this game has captivated me like no other, but that's because I just find it so entertaining. And if Zoey ends up being a new LI, I'll definitely give that path a go.

True... just the little thing was missing... telling these feeling to Fuckface when it was time ( departure ) ... now it's a missed opportunity and a late realization of a possibility... dependent on every player must be decided how to handle this situation I already said mine buncha folks did too theirs...

So she fucked up.

That's pretty much the summary of the entire Interlude. She fucked the fuck up.

Now she's come back with a stronger understanding of what she really wants. Will the mc great her with open arms, or will he kick her to the curb.

Hopefully that will be our choice.

 

[dalli_x]

Shaz... not even mentioning Quinn with the other LIs? Extremely unbased post, downvoted + unsubscribed + reported

I agree with your overall conclusion about Zoey's inclusion being drama bait, but people seem to be under some misapprehensions about Zoey and the MC's relationship. Maybe they misread the Interlude or are reading past the text and into the context deeper than I am, but Zoey didn't think they were in a relationship at all, like literally the MC was just a best friend to her.

Spoiler: She says that verbatim to Bret

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And in fact, as you can see from the last shot there, her pussy totally dried up at the MC "being a bit of a softie" i.e. acting like a boyfriend at all Zoey is literally the most DIK girl in this game so far, I mean even Quinn and Lily appreciate some affection in private.

So we don't actually know whether she wants to be in a relationship with the MC, she is definitely looking to reconnect with her 'best friend' but does she want to be boyfriend/girlfriend? In addition to her aversion to expressing affection, in one of the final shots of the Interlude she doesn't actually say she wants to be with the MC in the end, only that she loves her hometown and the "people" there:

Spoiler: Muh hometown

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I honestly don't know what Zoey's motives are or where she's gonna go in the story, only that it seems to me that this isn't some kind of Jill-type romance plot where she's returning to win the MC's heart. The actual truth is she didn't think she was in a relationship with the MC and was even uncomfortable with him acting like they were, went to another city and wasted all her inheritance on a dumb dream, got her naked tits and ass posted all over the internet and then decided home isn't actually that bad My DIK MC is probably gonna give her the walk of shame treatment but that's about it for her.

Once again, you only read what you wanted to read and blanked out the rest. That can also be called home blindness.

Yes at her first tattoo session Zoey said that to Bret. But we have a decision there about what Zoey can say back to Bret. Was it just that Zoey and the MC started fucking each other or the two started exploring their bodies together.

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She wants her MC back. You should also consider the other pictures of this scene.

She tried to suppress these feelings at the beginning of her journey.
Zoey: "The feeling I tried so hard to push back and ignore."

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As time goes by, Zoey realizes that she was missing something, but she hasn't yet realized what it is or who it is.
Zoey: "But ultimately...the feeling that l was missing something I couldn’t put my finger on."

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She looks at the drawing of the MC and realizes what she didn't see because of home blindness. The MC.
Zoey: "Home blindness."

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Let's get to this picture .

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black-haired badass=Emma: Zoey learned from Emma what home blindness is and that you shouldn't hide your feelings for someone. (Neil also said that to the MC in EP1).

shaven teddy bear=Jonah: Jonah has led Zoey down the right path as far as high school and college are concerned. The conclusion of this should be so that standing still is actually going backwards. Zoey is graduating from high school and has applied, albeit unsuccessfully, to a college nearby.

red-haired, tight-pants-wearing goofball=Bret: Not only did he tell Zoey that the MC might have had more feelings for her than she realized, but at the end of the Interlude, he also told her that her grandma just wanted Zoey to be happy.

These three friends messed her up at the beginning of her journey, but also set her straight at the same time.

The image may also have another meaning that just occurred to me. There is an expression "arguing over the emperor's beard". So two people argue about the MC. He's wearing the beard in this picture. But Zoey didn't draw the beard and neither did the MC. Who was it? Emily is either Josy or Maya and Trevor actually means the MC. Josy and Maya don't have a car and take the train.

The MC also tried to draw something with blue and then rather writes that T-bone was here. Tremolo-bone. It was Maya. The MC replies in EP8 to Maya if he had a bony ass.