ok you got me
originally I just liked Chip's idea to punish people for something
No way dude. Your challenge went as follows:
And I listed a shit load of events that "could remotely be interpreted as a friendship between these two".
No you can definitely "beat" Caleb without mini games. There is a point counter for the 3 or so attacks you choose, and if you get enough points it plays out the same as if you won the Brawler game against him.ok you got me
and when I think about it, the way minigames are done they already serve the purpose of rewarding people for playing them because you get more money and can have different outcomes than when you skip them (Caleb fight was unwinnable without minigames iirc, triple tile trophy is also a nice touch)
Seriously what are you even talking about?Sorry, to burst into this conversation, I truly don't really care, I admit I dont even read the rest, but I just cant help myself, it's a sickness truly, so I already apologize for it
Aren't you despise DPC, hating him, and yet you playing his game ?
I'm truly sorry, but really this way like the first thing in my mind, you basically talking about yourself
Oh please... this freeroam business is very limited sooo... attaching interactive experience to this is a little rough
The Fuckface' phone... I dunno what you mean... the brawler / shuffle / tile ??? Coz they are mini-games as well... but they are not the mandatory ( ofc it can be switched off ) story-like games... nonetheless they are MGs
maybe not that MG 
what do you mean? it seems to me it went exactly the same wayok you got me
and when I think about it, the way minigames are done they already serve the purpose of rewarding people for playing them because you get more money and can have different outcomes than when you skip them (Caleb fight was unwinnable without minigames iirc, triple tile trophy is also a nice touch)
For all of your arguments, let alone this story, to work the MC would have to be extremely stupid.No way dude. Your challenge went as follows:
And I listed a shit load of events that "could remotely be interpreted as a friendship between these two".
You could also interpret them to be Maya's self serving nature, completely fooling the mc into thinking she's his friend while all along her intention is to use him and cast him aside.
That's a possibility, but I find much more plausible that they have become friends, but that doesn't dispute the fact the she can also be a pain in the ass. Hopefully the mc will soon have the opportunity to be a pain in her ass.
No you can definitely "beat" Caleb without mini games. There is a point counter for the 3 or so attacks you choose, and if you get enough points it plays out the same as if you won the Brawler game against him.
Shazba my good man, let the Brawler game, Shuffle and Triple Tile be important in terms of making money. The alternative is to find and steal money. Who knows what that might lead to later?The minigames are definitely a mixed bag.
Doing Brawler for cash during the free roams is now uninteresting since there's no context, it's like it is just a phone app, not him actually fighting in some underground setting.
If there was some sort of underground fighting ring with a bit of story and some progression, that would be a lot more interesting.
However Brawler against game characters, like Chad and Dawe, is a lot of fun, but it'd be nice if the mc stopped getting sucker punched after each scene!
Triple Tile was kinda fun, mainly to get that trophy, but it was unnecessarily time consuming for minimal payoff.
The Shuffle game was forgettable, it's been done a million times before, so it was just about the pictures and the payoff. But really it was just part of the grind to get cash in the free roams.
The Pixel Hunt (or whatever the fuck it was called) "mini games" were the most annoying for me. Running around trying to find some random item to click on, no, that's not entertaining for me at all.
The Maths game was intriguing the first time, but typically ran with the same concepts over and over.
The English game was a fun challenge the first time, but absolutely pointless after that.
The Gender Studies quiz was kinda amusing the first time round, with all the bullshit the girls would go on about, but then again, you can get that kind of conversation talking to a teenage girl in real life.
The Drinking game was quick and unimportant, but it's surprising how many people found it borderline impossible. Same goes for the Painting and Library Cleaning game.
I didn't mind the Tennis game, but found it annoying that it was impossible to win the second set against Jill. You could only win the first and the third. Beating the shit out of Tybalt was fun, even if it was an accident.
The Beachball and Basketball games were totally forgettable, but at least the beachball game included the girls. How many people even knew those games existed?
The Pancake game was pointless. Really, there was no need for it at all, it actually detracted from the banter at breakfast.
The Drawing game in the Interlude was a joke. If anyone couldn't get an 'S' in that, they must have serious a motor skill deficiency...
The Mansion Repair was definitely the big hit, a lot of people are sad to see it go. I think the main reason for that was the progression. Each time we played it, we got closer to completion, and there was satisfaction in that. It was also executed well. Plus it was also based on something real in the game; the DIKs were actually out there earning and cleaning.
So if the Party Planning follows in the footsteps on the Mansion game, it's sure to have it's fans.
So while I pretty much knocked all the games above, I didn't mind any of the on the first play through, but they are pointlessly time consuming after that.
There are TWO things that would save minigames' insanity.The minigames are definitely a mixed bag.
Doing Brawler for cash during the free roams is now uninteresting since there's no context, it's like it is just a phone app, not him actually fighting in some underground setting.
If there was some sort of underground fighting ring with a bit of story and some progression, that would be a lot more interesting.
However Brawler against game characters, like Chad and Dawe, is a lot of fun, but it'd be nice if the mc stopped getting sucker punched after each scene!
Triple Tile was kinda fun, mainly to get that trophy, but it was unnecessarily time consuming for minimal payoff.
The Shuffle game was forgettable, it's been done a million times before, so it was just about the pictures and the payoff. But really it was just part of the grind to get cash in the free roams.
The Pixel Hunt (or whatever the fuck it was called) "mini games" were the most annoying for me. Running around trying to find some random item to click on, no, that's not entertaining for me at all.
The Maths game was intriguing the first time, but typically ran with the same concepts over and over.
The English game was a fun challenge the first time, but absolutely pointless after that.
The Gender Studies quiz was kinda amusing the first time round, with all the bullshit the girls would go on about, but then again, you can get that kind of conversation talking to a teenage girl in real life.
The Drinking game was quick and unimportant, but it's surprising how many people found it borderline impossible. Same goes for the Painting and Library Cleaning game.
I didn't mind the Tennis game, but found it annoying that it was impossible to win the second set against Jill. You could only win the first and the third. Beating the shit out of Tybalt was fun, even if it was an accident.
The Beachball and Basketball games were totally forgettable, but at least the beachball game included the girls. How many people even knew those games existed?
The Pancake game was pointless. Really, there was no need for it at all, it actually detracted from the banter at breakfast.
The Drawing game in the Interlude was a joke. If anyone couldn't get an 'S' in that, they must have serious a motor skill deficiency...
The Mansion Repair was definitely the big hit, a lot of people are sad to see it go. I think the main reason for that was the progression. Each time we played it, we got closer to completion, and there was satisfaction in that. It was also executed well. Plus it was also based on something real in the game; the DIKs were actually out there earning and cleaning.
So if the Party Planning follows in the footsteps on the Mansion game, it's sure to have it's fans.
So while I pretty much knocked all the games above, I didn't mind any of the on the first play through, but they are pointlessly time consuming after that.
Yeah, I was surprised how careless Jacob and Tommy is with the money, they were just sitting there to take itShazba my good man, let the Brawler game, Shuffle and Triple Tile be important in terms of making money. The alternative is to find and steal money. Who knows what that might lead to later?
. I didn't do it however. But I admit I did steal Maya's money , I needed it in that moment. Hey I paid her meal, and went back home to her instead of staying at a party, so we are even.
yeah I remembered it wrong. Troy, Dawe and Chad are auto-win if you skip minigames but you can lose Caleb's fight. well fuck, at least with minigames you can get a VIP pass for your desk (not that you ever need to use it but it looks cool), get a job at a strip club and still repair the mansion
Straight way to the White House !Shazba my good man, let the Brawler game, Shuffle and Triple Tile be important in terms of making money. The alternative is to find and steal money. Who knows what that might lead to later?
I can see Jacob and Zoey! That way they can draw the lewd art together! But I will only accept this in a route where we’re not with her and when the player can give his blessing. Otherwise the NTR hate squad are going to riot.You can use it for Jacob's paintings
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But you right, I would not mind if it's actually used for something, something more.
Speaking of, I can't wait for Zoey and Jacob to meet, the 2 Artist, they probably click with each other very easily. I would not be Surprised if Zoey, end up dating with one of the friend of MC, if MC don't want to be with her.
Seriously DavDR, you've been trying to make your points over and over, but the bottomline always is any opinion that doesn't agree with your view of facts is wrong, DPC is a bad writer, Maya's Loan is bad writing, Friendship with Maya is bad writing.
in general there are not so many interactions between different groups, for example both Maya and Josy would have a reason to interact with DIKs but they don't, Maya if she talks to Derek she always does it in scenes where DIKs have nothing to do with itI can see Jacob and Zoey! That way they can draw the lewd art together! But I will only accept this in a route where we’re not with her and when the player can give his blessing. Otherwise the NTR hate squad are going to riot.
Then again it would be a little bit redundant.
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I love the minigames. Being a DIK is an unique game that can't be compared to any other. The best VN. There are a few so called developers who tries to copy his ideas but they suck at it.
You seem a bit worked up Chip old boy, do you need a lie down or something?
You're arguing two separate things:
1. Mini-games are a waste of development time
I agree up to a point, as I said I don't particularly enjoy them. Perhaps even most players think some or all of them are a waste of time. Some do like all or some of the mini-games though, including you apparently? Seems a bit contradictory for you to argue they're a waste of time? More importantly DPC loves them. So there's no chance of reduced development time being spent on mini-games.
2. People who play mini-games should get extra rewards. People too 'lazy' to play mini-games can suck it.
I don't agree at all, the mini-games are the reward. DPC would be stupid to piss off all those players who don't like them by locking significant rewards behind completing mini-games.
Facts are facts: You already lost this argument, it's DPCs way or the highway. Prizes for everyone, mini-games or not.
I play the mini-games remember? As did several of the other people who 'argued' with you. It's OK for people to have other opinions without throwing a fit about it. Unfortunately for you, the only opinion that matters is DPC, and he loves those mini-games, and happily gives prizes to casual players.
Come now crabs, you're a modder/dev these days, you already know how to avoid or nerf mini-games you don't like if you want too...
Indeed anyone can toggle mini-games on and off mid-game if they want by enabling the console?
To disable mini-games enter:minigames = False
To enable mini-games enter:minigames = True
In the can't help but laugh at guys who get hit in the nuts sort of way. One of the many reasons I have automated backups of my saves.
If DPC really wanted to punish us he'd corrupt the saves, then watch the chaos as people endlessly try to load broken saves.
I am being completely open and honest when I say I believe they are friends.
And if you choose Bella, Jill react badly to see MC and Bella fooling around....i'm worry for Jill in that playthrough
Here the only problem is the same troll that comes from time to time to discuss the same topic
