VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[shazba]

I wrote that she was comforted by someone and then it came to sex.

That's not a big deal. It is in play that the boy's parents filed or wanted to file charges against Neil and the MC. The MC then says himself that he doesn't know why it didn't happen. Ergo, a third party must have intervened on behalf of Neil and the MC.

That may be so, since the diary came from the grandparents. But they will have read it. Ergo, they know what's in it.

And I repeat myself again. If Lynette was Neil's oh-so-great love, he would have many more and more detailed memories than he has. You don't forget how you met your first great love, and Neil certainly wouldn't have told his son that just once. The only strange thing is that the MC learns all this from his mother's diary.

Don't tell me that Neil has Alzheimer's disease. Even then he would not have forgotten it, because people with Alzheimer's remember the past better than what they heard 5 minutes ago.

When the love of your life has gone and you're contemplating running away to be with them, you tend not to end up fucking other people in the short term... Maybe the mc of this story would, but most people would be focused on being with the person they love, and the logistics of finding them, not randomly fucking other people, no matter how they are consoling them:

"Don't worry babe, there'll be other fish in the sea, he was no good anyway, not like me, um, you wanna suck my dick?"​

I agree it's likely that Lynette's parents would have read the diary if they had it, but there's nothing in there that we know of yet that makes that a problem. If she ran off, it would be the first thing they would do I expect, to try to find her.

Neil has told the mc some things about Lynette, it's just that it's not vivid retelling, and not filled with the accuracies of writing it down the day it happens. Reading the mom's diary gives him her perception, not Neil's. Plus Neil is romanticising about how Lynette didn't want her father's money, she only wanted him. Neil isn't about to tell his son that Lynette initially thought he was a dickhead.

My parents were probably a little similar in this sense. My dad was a rebel and my mom was a "lady". Initially she thought he was an idiot. But guess who told me that version. Not my dad.

 

[vogelbeest]

Don't tell me that Neil has Alzheimer's disease. Even then he would not have forgotten it, because people with Alzheimer's remember the past better than what they heard 5 minutes ago.

Some people have better memories then others, i don't think Neil has a bad memory, he talks too much and forgets the punchline, that's said in the intro, so he's just one of these guys that use too many words to say too little and halfway even forget what the question was about.... A bit like an ADD kid on a diet of M&M's and cola... hyper hyper wut wut wut?

 

[dalli_x]

When the love of your life has gone and you're contemplating running away to be with them, you tend not to end up fucking other people in the short term... Maybe the mc of this story would, but most people would be focused on being with the person they love, and the logistics of finding them, not randomly fucking other people, no matter how they are consoling them:

"Don't worry babe, there'll be other fish in the sea, he was no good anyway, not like me, um, you wanna suck my dick?"​

I agree it's likely that Lynette's parents would have read the diary if they had it, but there's nothing in there that we know of yet that makes that a problem. If she ran off, it would be the first thing they would do I expect, to try to find her.

Neil has told the mc some things about Lynette, it's just that it's not vivid retelling, and not filled with the accuracies of writing it down the day it happens. Reading the mom's diary gives him her perception, not Neil's. Plus Neil is romanticising about how Lynette didn't want her father's money, she only wanted him. Neil isn't about to tell his son that Lynette initially thought he was a dickhead.

My parents were probably a little similar in this sense. My dad was a rebel and my mom was a "lady". Initially she thought he was an idiot. But guess who told me that version. Not my dad.

When you were young, you probably weren't a DIK. It's so easy to get a woman around, to fuck when you need to comfort her.

 

[EthanP.]

My theory about Neil is that he really is the father, but as mentioned in his bio, he had some legal trouble in the past. For me it's likely Lynnette's father tried to financially cripple him, and maybe even sign an NDA about never mentioning the family to the MC or anyone. That's why the diary is the best way to tell the truth to the MC without pissing off Lynette's family. I also think whoever sent the diary is trying to help out Niel and the MC. Moreover, I doubt Rusty and the MC are related. Otherwise Niel would have reacted when going to B&R as the surname is right there.

 

[georsak]

My theory about Neil is that he really is the father, but as mentioned in his bio, he had some legal trouble in the past. For me it's likely Lynnette's father tried to financially cripple him, and maybe even sign an NDA about never mentioning the family to the MC or anyone. That's why the diary is the best way to tell the truth to the MC without pissing off Lynette's family. I also think whoever sent the diary is trying to help out Niel and the MC. Moreover, I doubt Rusty and the MC are related. Otherwise Niel would have reacted when going to B&R as the surname is right there.

That's actually a very possible explanation. Although I still think that Neil probably isn't the biological dad, the NDA would explain a lot if he is. That's why I love the discussions here (most of the time... ), I would never think of that

 

[felicemastronzo]

My theory about Neil is that he really is the father, but as mentioned in his bio, he had some legal trouble in the past. For me it's likely Lynnette's father tried to financially cripple him, and maybe even sign an NDA about never mentioning the family to the MC or anyone. That's why the diary is the best way to tell the truth to the MC without pissing off Lynette's family. I also think whoever sent the diary is trying to help out Niel and the MC. Moreover, I doubt Rusty and the MC are related. Otherwise Niel would have reacted when going to B&R as the surname is right there.

mna talk about the mother's surname, which will be on the birth certificate, on the tomb that sometimes they will have gone to honor etc. ...

I doubt that one can secret it in any way

and the diary itself is Lynette's family who gave it to MC, it is unlikely that they have read it, in the end it is the diary of their dead daughter, but we can also admit that they considered it harmless, because for example they could not have foreseen that MC knew Jill and had seen that house (which he doesn't always see, but if he is in Jill's path he does)(

 

[sixart]

Why would it lead to incest.
Example. His father is Geoff Burgmeister. Is the MC fucking Rusty now?

There are many many variants... ^ this one though sounds important it actually is not storywise ! It would not matter even if Fuckface would be a Burgmeister since Fuckface is Fuckface not a blue blooded little bitch His share of 5k$ was paid so..... what else is in this ? Irrelevant !

And Stephen just like that pays for a huge water damage Derek and the MC did out of his own pocket.

Welp someone has to... and do not forget that he needs this to stay hush-hush !!! ... and that huge water damage... let's just say that is also an overboard statement from WMhumper

After 15 years a non birth father would love his non birth son. Family does not mean you are blood relatives. Sage serves as a good example in this regard.

What's unsure about this ? It is how you wrote Maybe the first part is wrong... you either love your " son " or you don't... years have nothing to do with this

 

[marconenni]

From walkthrough: "Try for something more: Pick this option if you want more than friendship with Josy and Maya. They will accept if you have fucked Josy in episode 2 (done) or tried fucking Maya in episode 3 (done). You must also have neutral or CHICK affinity (neutral for me), as your personality is an important factor to them".

Rejected, why?

 

[felicemastronzo]

From walkthrough: "Try for something more: Pick this option if you want more than friendship with Josy and Maya. They will accept if you have fucked Josy in episode 2 (done) or tried fucking Maya in episode 3 (done). You must also have neutral or CHICK affinity (neutral for me), as your personality is an important factor to them".

Rejected, why?

you have affinity DIK

that is the only condition to be rejected

 

[sixart]

years already have something to do with it. What would have happened if Neil had learned immediately after the birth of Mc that it is not his son.

I don't want to be cold-hearted, but if I were in Neil's place, I would have given the newborn bastard MC away right away.

Possibly I would have done the same... I dunno... that's why you either care for him/her and you don't do it OR you don't and would put him/her up for adoption... that happens instantly not in 15 years time... and if you are a halfway decent man and choose to " be his/her dad " then you will love the kid regardless ( ofc there are bad parents and we are not living in a perfect world but you get the idea )

 

[Bendover885]

Some of you out there are theorizing like DPC is playing 4D underwater chess. The simplest explanation is usually the correct one. DPC isn't turning the frogs gay, but the government is.

 

[sixart]

From walkthrough: "Try for something more: Pick this option if you want more than friendship with Josy and Maya. They will accept if you have fucked Josy in episode 2 (done) or tried fucking Maya in episode 3 (done). You must also have neutral or CHICK affinity (neutral for me), as your personality is an important factor to them".

Rejected, why?

Weed

 

[sorco2003]

From walkthrough: "Try for something more: Pick this option if you want more than friendship with Josy and Maya. They will accept if you have fucked Josy in episode 2 (done) or tried fucking Maya in episode 3 (done). You must also have neutral or CHICK affinity (neutral for me), as your personality is an important factor to them".

Rejected, why?

Can you share a screenshot of your status before the choice?

 

[AchedCroissant]

From walkthrough: "Try for something more: Pick this option if you want more than friendship with Josy and Maya. They will accept if you have fucked Josy in episode 2 (done) or tried fucking Maya in episode 3 (done). You must also have neutral or CHICK affinity (neutral for me), as your personality is an important factor to them".

Rejected, why?

Do you meet the requirements?

 

[sorco2003]

Do you meet the requirements?

I understand that in parentheses it says yes.

 

[AchedCroissant]

I understand that in parentheses it says yes.

But there's something weird anyway... Fucking Quinn on the roof doesn't get you rejected either if you still have neutral affinity

 

[felicemastronzo]

From walkthrough: "Try for something more: Pick this option if you want more than friendship with Josy and Maya. They will accept if you have fucked Josy in episode 2 (done) or tried fucking Maya in episode 3 (done). You must also have neutral or CHICK affinity (neutral for me), as your personality is an important factor to them".

Rejected, why?

You don't have to have DIK affinity, are you confused with status?

 

[sorco2003]

But there's something weird anyway... Fucking Quinn on the roof doesn't get you rejected either if you still have neutral affinity

Exactly, that's why I asked him if he could share the status just before choosing.

 

[Walter Victor]

But there's something weird anyway... Fucking Quinn on the roof doesn't get you rejected either if you still have neutral affinity

You don't have to have DIK affinity, are you confused with status?

Exactly, that's why I asked him if he could share the status just before choosing.

Actually the conditional is for affinity != "DIK". I suspect this is the problem, as long as he has done either of the other two requirements, which he says he has.

It's easy enough to check, if you have access to the console. Otherwise...

 

[D2M3]

Welcome DIK brother

I lean towards Neil not being the MC's bio dad as well, but it's a very messy subject/theory because DPC has messed with the timeline before (changing when the MC met Zoey I believe) which means any speculation about ages not lining up etc. can be yanked out from under us. It's fun to mess around and theorize though.

The evidence that tends to sway me are the themes of the game surrounding blood and family; the first lines of the game are a retrospective by the MC about family being the people who support you and all that good stuff, as told to him by Neil himself, but how exactly is that relevant to the MC's story when Neil is then immediately introduced as a super great biological dad who has never let him down? The theme of 'Family' is literally the first word of the game, but the MC is actually the only main character in the game who has a relatively drama-free biological family. Maya, Josy, Jill, Bella, Sage, Quinn - all of them have been shown to have problems with their families, their dads, moms, adoptive parents, sisters, husbands etc. The theme of 'family' fits all of them much more than the MC, except for the potential of a big secret in Lynette's diary - but what possible secret could be relevant to the theme of 'family being those who support you and not those who share your blood'? Because again, that theme fits almost everyone except the main character of the story, the guy who literally said those words - what could make those words relevant from him, who already has a fantastic biological dad - the best dad the story has shown us?

Only makes sense to me thematically if Neil isn't his real dad. Otherwise the game should start up with the MC saying something like: "My dad Neil always said family was those who supported you instead of those who shared your blood, which is weird because he's my real biological dad who I love the most in the world, and the only other person who I might have considered non-biological family left my ass to go to San Diego and broke my heart, oh and plus I really really wanna know about my biological mom, so actually this isn't relevant at all"

Anyhow that's just my prediction - Neil isn't the MC's dad and he'll have to struggle with what family means once he finds out who his 'true' family is and that Neil's been lying. Makes for good drama and DPC is all about that, and besides I can't even imagine any other family secret having half as much impact on the MC as him finding out that Neil isn't his bio dad. Maybe Lynette being alive or something, but then we'd have to add the incest tag and that would be pure anarchy

I always took the opening statements NOT as something lampshading Neil's biological parent status, but a commentary on how most of the time, our 'chosen' families are more important to us than the ones we are born in, no matter if blood is involved or not.

I think you guys are reading way too much into it, then again, any of us could be right or wrong.

The commentary on chosen families ( such as a fraternity, a sports team you are part of, a ride-or-die friend group) seems a lot more likely.