VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[shazba]

Yeah, that bit... holup, when did this happen? Some may want her to take revenge on Matthew by cheating with MC, but hasn't happened yet? You said you're playing through the whole game again, are you doing it with your eyes closed or something?

Yeah, that was my mistake, I got Bianca and Olivia mixed up (in my defence, I saw that dinner party once ).

you only need an ID to do those things, I don't think I've ever used a birth certificate in my life....

do we know where Lynette is buried? no, so we don't know if MC ever visited her grave, we don't even know if there is a grave, she could have been cremated...

if Lynette was a Burg it would be a huge stretch, in line with many others we have seen so far

I hope it doesn't happen, but if it does I wouldn't be surprised at all

Lynette could be a Burg without ever having had the surname Burg, it is enough that she comes from a female branch of the family, therefore without ever having the name Burg (Jill's daughter will not be a Royce by name even if she is one).

What are the other huge stretches?

Only the botched loan details come to mind, and those details come from Maya's mouth, who admits she doesn't know what she's talking about.

Are there any other ridiculous scenarios?

If Lynette was part of the Burgmeister family tree having branched into another family and taken on their surname (her mother, or grandmother or great grandmother or whatever), how is that of any interest to anyone then? I mean, really...

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Also, how did you get a licence, passport or other forms of identification if you never used your birth certificate to start with? Maybe your parents did everything for you and you've just been using your licence for ID ever since? That could be the mc's situation too.

Sorry, this is mostly just a you thing. Perfectly

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, if the chicks wearing the things

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, who am I to argue? I'm sure the tons of exposure therapy available here will help you overcome your hangup.

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[vogelbeest]

How can the MC sign for recieving it when his father accepted it ?

Yes, that's the point why it would make no sense the diary was with Neil all this time... He only received it just before his birthday, why would Neil go through all this trouble if he had all these things in the house?

And no there is no signing for an inheritance, just signing for receiving the goods as they are named in the will, the actual inheritance is more then just the named items/money that can not be contested, MC only needs to sign for that part of the inheritance if he has been notified he is beneficiary for more then just the items/money named his in the will.
That's a fact we don't know yet, we know he's been named for the dress, the diary and 5k. He should be notified as beneficiary for attending the reading of the will for any actual inheritance that needs to be signed for accepting.

So to get back to the possibility MC is a beneficiary in an inheritance from his grandmother, and assuming this is the same person as Rich's grandmother, MC should receive notification in time for attending the reading of her will somewhere in december. Signing for accepting an inheritance will be after that reading plus any term beneficiaries can legally contest the will.

 

[Ilhares]

What's really weird is why are their 2 pairs of the same boots?

"It was on sale!" It's just as good as the "default asset" excuse.

you only need an ID to do those things, I don't think I've ever used a birth certificate in my life....

I don't know where you live, but I got my first ID (in the US) 30ish years ago, and in order to do so you had to present the birth certificate and other documentation to support claims of who you were. It was usually (One from group A & B, or a single item from group C) stuff that either was your birth certificate, or other documentation that would have already required its presentation.

Lynette could be a Burg without ever having had the surname Burg, it is enough that she comes from a female branch of the family, therefore without ever having the name Burg (Jill's daughter will not be a Royce by name even if she is one).

Jill could absolutely have a daughter with the same surname. People all around the world are casting off the patriarchal habit of taking the man's family name for marriage or birthed children. Given how many infidelities there are in relationships around the world, the names should be matriarch-based in the first place. You might question who a father is, but there's really no question who is giving birth.

 

[TimHawk]

Yes, that's the point why it would make no sense the diary was with Neil all this time... He only received it just before his birthday, why would Neil go through all this trouble if he had all these things in the house?

And no there is no signing for an inheritance, just signing for receiving the goods as they are named in the will, the actual inheritance is more then just the named items/money that can not be contested, MC only needs to sign for that part of the inheritance if he has been notified he is beneficiary for more then just the items/money named his in the will.
That's a fact we don't know yet, we know he's been named for the dress, the diary and 5k. He should be notified as beneficiary for attending the reading of the will for any actual inheritance that needs to be signed for accepting.

So to get back to the possibility MC is a beneficiary in an inheritance from his grandmother, and assuming this is the same person as Rich's grandmother, MC should receive notification in time for attending the reading of her will somewhere in december. Signing for accepting an inheritance will be after that reading plus any term beneficiaries can legally contest the will.

Im don't believe Neil had the diary the entire time. If he did, he wouldve given it to the MC way sooner than 19. I don't believe anyone died recently either, I think someone who knew Lynette went to the post office and sent the package to the last adress he or she knew about, hence Neil could accept it for the MC, because it was just your every day mail package.

Now lets go back to 19 and not related to MC's birthday either, since his dad told him about the package days if not a week before his 19th birthday, thats an odd date to send someone a package of that importance, right ? So why now ? That question drives me nuts ! Does the person, who had the diary and the dress in her or his possession, know someone at B&R, the MCs name got dropped, he or she guilt triped and sent the package ? Or did Neil met someone connected to his past, where he doesnt even know the connection and that triggered the package ?

Because "a week before he gets 19" its not exactly smth you put into a will, so it seems impulsive and reactive, like smth mustve happened that trigged it, but what ? Oh, how I sometimes hate DPC and his mysteries.

 

[Kellermann]

5000$ is just a part of inheritance that was in a will, everything else will come later

Let's say MC inherits a larger sum later (maybe end game), do you think he will have to decide which main girl to help? Maybe each one is given some late game crisis (as DPC is wont to do).

Jill, loses her $ not unlike her sister (cut off because she a lower class boy) and becomes destitute and because she has no life skills and can't function on the streets without immediately being taken advantage of or being completely shunned as soon as she flashes her goblin teeth; she needs help. A role reversal of the rich girl/poor boy early game. Then anal sex.

Sage, is sickened by the revelation of Stephen's lecherous activities and is upset with Jade (because..normal ginger anger reasons) and strikes out on her own, only to hit a roadblock. Rebound boy is the only one she trusts enough to turn to. Then anal sex.

Bella, gets fired, if not blackmailed, for molesting a student (or perhaps for whatever big secret she is hiding). Burke is annoyed at being rejected so maybe he has a covert hand in her removal...and Jade is all too happy to be rid of a big titty milf rival at B&R. No job, no employment prospects because of the bad press and with bills piling up, MC and his catnip mega dick to the rescue? Then anal sex.

Josy, needs an expensive insurance policy on her perfect ass. Then anal sex, but with plenty of lube...gotta be careful with her.

Maya, well she is Maya so she always needs help. Then anal sex.

Zoey, gets mistaken for a rotten blueberry and is thrown out in the rubbish bin. Disoriented, homeless, and wandering the streets she needs MC money for her next big adventure...a plane ticket to live in the arctic and club seals to support her new form of expression: snow piss artistry.

I'll even throw in Quinn, we all know she is going to have some trouble with the law. Maybe she needs to go on the run. Will MC drop university and go with her? Living a quiet desert life in a border town with nothing to do but weed and anal sex all day. No one will ever recognise her with that hair...never!

 

[felicemastronzo]

Yeah, that was my mistake, I got Bianca and Olivia mixed up (in my defence, I saw that dinner party once ).

What are the other huge stretches?

Only the botched loan details come to mind, and those details come from Maya's mouth, who admits she doesn't know what she's talking about.

Are there any other ridiculous scenarios?

If Lynette was part of the Burgmeister family tree having branched into another family and taken on their surname (her mother, or grandmother or great grandmother or whatever), how is that of any interest to anyone then? I mean, really...

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Also, how did you get a licence, passport or other forms of identification if you never used your birth certificate to start with? Maybe your parents did everything for you and you've just been using your licence for ID ever since? That could be the mc's situation too.



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my parents will have certainly made my first identity document, to renew for me it is enough to bring the old one

maybe the only time I remember seeing my birth certificate is when I was a child and it was used to put me in my parents' passport, since then I don't think I have ever seen it again

among all the stories told, I don't think it is so compelling that MC has seen his birth certificate, a poor boy who at most went to school...

by streches I was referring to the usual discourse of the tiny aquarium in which BADIK takes place, whereby if Chad is gay, his partner can only be MC's roommate, where the first two people MC knows in college are brother and sister, in such a small college where if you are an important person you have to be a Burke (who we don't even know what role he plays in college)

Normally it is said that through 7 degrees of relationship you can link 2 people at random in the world, in BADIK one is enough, at most 2

if Lynette was Rusty's cousin or aunt (daughter of his father's sister or sister herself) it wouldn't be so insignificant, but it would surely be more significant than if Lynette belonged to an unknown or secondary family like that of a random Preps

 

[vogelbeest]

you only need an ID to do those things, I don't think I've ever used a birth certificate in my life....

Any school i registered before i had a passport i needed to show my birth certificate. For my first passpost at my 18th year i needed my birth certificate aswell. Only any new ID after that did not need it since you can identify with the old.
Even if it's not a regular thing, every year from my 4th till my 18th there was need for my birth certificate atleast once.

Lynette could be a Burg without ever having had the surname Burg, it is enough that she comes from a female branch of the family, therefore without ever having the name Burg (Jill's daughter will not be a Royce by name even if she is one).

You're either are a Burgmeister or you're not, there's no in between, there's "related to one" but that's still not a Burgmeister.

I think someone who knew Lynette went to the post office and sent the package to the last adress he or she knew about, hence Neil could accept it for the MC,

Any friend of Lynette keeping the diary, the dress and especially 5k while Neil had to raise MC alone and with hardly any money?
Unlikely, they would have given the money much sooner. Only logical explanation is the diary was with either Lynette's sister or her mother all this time....

 

[felicemastronzo]

"It was on sale!" It's just as good as the "default asset" excuse.
I don't know where you live, but I got my first ID (in the US) 30ish years ago, and in order to do so you had to present the birth certificate and other documentation to support claims of who you were. It was usually (One from group A & B, or a single item from group C) stuff that either was your birth certificate, or other documentation that would have already required its presentation.
Jill could absolutely have a daughter with the same surname. People all around the world are casting off the patriarchal habit of taking the man's family name for marriage or birthed children. Given how many infidelities there are in relationships around the world, the names should be matriarch-based in the first place. You might question who a father is, but there's really no question who is giving birth.

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the first document of indetity is that Neil made it, from that point on you don't need the documents, just bring the old document and it will be renewed (for the drive license you need medical certificates...) no one doubts that you were born when you already have an identity document

on the last name I was talking about normal situations, you could have Royce's last name but if you didn't have it it wouldn't surprise anyone

 

[TimHawk]

Any school i registered before i had a passport i needed to show my birth certificate. For my first passpost at my 18th year i needed my birth certificate aswell. Only any new ID after that did not need it since you can identify with the old.
Even if it's not a regular thing, every year from my 4th till my 18th there was need for my birth certificate atleast once.



You're either are a Burgmeister or you're not, there's no in between, there's "related to one" but that's still not a Burgmeister.



Any friend of Lynette keeping the diary, the dress and especially 5k while Neil had to raise MC alone and with hardly any money?
Unlikely, they would have given the money much sooner. Only logical explanation is the diary was with either Lynette's sister or her mother all this time....

No someone who knew her and loved her, like you said, maybe her mom, maybe her dad, maybe a sibling. The key to all of this is "why now?", if we find the trigger, the rest will fall into place.

 

[hakuna-matata]

If only it were that simple. Lynette would not have gone back to Neil without her diary. So her parents didn't have the diary at first. They probably didn't get it until Lynette passed away, or not at all.

The inheritance came from a lawyer. My guess is trend. Why. There is, in EP2 I think, a Scene of Trend clearly saying 4 not 5. But his secretary got it wrong again and wrote a check for $5000. Trend is working for the Burke's. Tybalt threatens Jill so Trend could report the MC. If Tybalt knows about Lynette, Stephen probably knows and maybe Jade. Ergo, there is a connection.

What worries me is the letter that came with the inheritance. Neither Neil nor the MC understood what was written there. My thought is that there is an agreement in the letter so that if the MC cashes the check for $5000, he will lose his entire inheritance. The only question is whether Stephen and/or Jade know about this. After all, they don't know either so Tybalt is blackmailing Jill. Is this perhaps the plan with which Tybalt wants to secure his future? Tybalt is not purebred like Russel Burgmeister.

How do you people come out with this shit?

 

[felicemastronzo]

Any school i registered before i had a passport i needed to show my birth certificate. For my first passpost at my 18th year i needed my birth certificate aswell. Only any new ID after that did not need it since you can identify with the old.
Even if it's not a regular thing, every year from my 4th till my 18th there was need for my birth certificate atleast once.

what an exciting childhood you had always checking to see whose child you were....

let's assume that MC had the same life as you, the last birth certificate should have been seen when he enrolled in high school, but Neil could have taken care of it directly anyway, I don't think it's considered a prevarication... I don't think MC was interested in enrolling

assume that MC must absolutely without question have seen his birth certificate is false, it is not evidence of anything

the only point is that it is hard to believe that Neil never told him anything about his mother, if he had lied to him there must be an important reason

You're either are a Burgmeister or you're not, there's no in between, there's "related to one" but that's still not a Burgmeister.

and who ever said that?

sure Lynette would be a Burg in the case, but not carrying that last name even the famous birth certificate would not have said anything to MC

if Lynette was Rusty's aunt/cousin, she would be a Burg but she could also be called Felicemastronzo by last name....

 

[vogelbeest]

How do you people come out with this shit?

Lotsa coffee and dedication!

 

[vogelbeest]

what an exciting childhood you had always checking to see whose child you were....

Yeah, must be alot more exciting ignoring any basic knowledge about your family, being totally surprised every time there was a party for either your father or your mother's birthday, always wondering who the f*ck these people visiting are, wut ? they're family? Why didn't you tell me? I've always wondered why we even visited them all these years!

 

[JETracktor]

How do you people come out with this shit?
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Cuz that's exciting

 

[deuxrayme]

There is one hint about Sage's family that is shown early in episode 8 that I haven't seen mentioned. It ties to Tybalt's speech about a cello.

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[matrioshka]

Hey guys "start a new game" button does not show up for me why? i want to replay game on a new pc and also want to get some mods to progress fast any mod recomendations and how to install them guides?

 

[sixart]

Hey guys "start a new game" button does not show up for me why? i want to replay game on a new pc and also want to get some mods to progress fast any mod recomendations and how to install them guides?

 

[matrioshka]

ey dont laugh DD thanks for mods but i still cant play the game any fixes for that?

 

[BigBlueDude]

My impression was that Lynettes family is one of many other affluent families (but not as prominent probably), she were friends with an older generation of Royces similarly to how Bianca now is a friend of Jill, introduced as children etc. Convoluted if she have to be an estranged Burgmeister at this point with what we have been shown? Fun to read the speculation though!

Anyone else having mixed feelings early on about some of the Lynette parts? Tremolo is imagining it and he imagines his mom in her room, (ok) in a bra and panties! (oh...key?) on her bed!! (what do you even say to that?!)

Come on, we are Greek enough with the frats, no point in going all old school Greek too!!

I know I know, real world reasons, to show players some womanly shaped pixels as eyecandy, but damn. Couldn't it have been outside in a bikini sunbathing instead?

 

[Walter Victor]

Im don't believe Neil had the diary the entire time. If he did, he wouldve given it to the MC way sooner than 19. I don't believe anyone died recently either, I think someone who knew Lynette went to the post office and sent the package to the last adress he or she knew about, hence Neil could accept it for the MC, because it was just your every day mail package.

Now lets go back to 19 and not related to MC's birthday either, since his dad told him about the package days if not a week before his 19th birthday, thats an odd date to send someone a package of that importance, right ? So why now ? That question drives me nuts ! Does the person, who had the diary and the dress in her or his possession, know someone at B&R, the MCs name got dropped, he or she guilt triped and sent the package ? Or did Neil met someone connected to his past, where he doesnt even know the connection and that triggered the package ?

Because "a week before he gets 19" its not exactly smth you put into a will, so it seems impulsive and reactive, like smth mustve happened that trigged it, but what ? Oh, how I sometimes hate DPC and his mysteries.

The confusing factor here is the legally framed letter that comes with the package. If it's from a lawyer, why was it sent at all if there is (as Neil says) no will? If it's not from a lawyer, why would it be described by Neil as 'legal mumbo jumbo', and not be understood by Tremolo (in my playthroughs he aces all the English tests)?

I believe it was sent by a lawyer, but the question remains, WHY?

EDIT: Okay, I just thought of a possible answer to my question. It's not Lynette's will. It's her mother's will. Of course that brings back in all the mess with how wills are probated. AHH, SHIT!!!