VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[NewTricks]

James isn't an imaginary friend, he's real, Bella married him, and at some point he disappeared, after that Bella for whatever reason started imagining James was still around, like in the library scene we've seen. So the pictures MC saw are real but it's no proof Bella can't be delusional. It even might be the reason MC said what he said about running for help in the library...

Best case scenario? Bella has grief-induced psychosis caused or exacerbated by advanced schizophrenia and during her psychotic breaks sometimes sees and hears him. Worst case scenario? She suffers from a dissociative identity disorder and sometimes is James. When he wants her body he really wants her body. To like, walk around in. Which would mean that sometimes Bella is a heterosexual man. Which would be awkward. Now DID doesn't really work like this but it is popularly portrayed as such in works such as Psycho, Fight Club, Doom Patrol, the upcoming Moon Knight show etc.

 

[vogelbeest]

Best case scenario?

Hmmm, think neither schizophrenia nor this extreme case of split personality is a good scenario...
There's stress induced delusions as an option too, it's less severe then schizophrenia although it's roughly related, big difference however is schizofrenia is more common and usually surfaces from puberty to mid twenties while delusional disorder is rare but often occurs midlife... It's likely Bella would have been diagnosed much earlier if it was schizofrenia.
And then there's a possibility it's caused by intoxination too, alcohol, drugs but also wrong medication and such.
Ah well, loads of possibilities anyway... so i hope there's a better diagnoses then your best case scenario.

(ah, and check out "hide and seek" if you didn't already!)

 

[QuixoteTheDon]

That's the main reason I think some of these games lose a lot. I understand some people might feel uncomfortable if the MC is cheated (NTR like some people call it?). For me it's OK if it makes sense in the story and we chose the wrong LI, hello, this is a game after all, not real life?!?! But other thing is completely removing every male competition and picture all the LI's like virgins who have no interest in any other men and no past experience, it's just ridiculous...

Yep. Zoey surely banged like crazy after she left the MC. All the guys in the surf school etc... Bret had to be her quasigay fuck buddy. and Emma her quasilesbian ahem, fuck buddy. Sadly tough, they never figured out that they should do a threesome.

That would have been a more realistic Zoey side story. The way DPC did it, Zoey is a virgin Maryesque saint, while at the same time at college, its a bloody miracle my MC's dick hasn't fallen off from all the sex with different women he's having.

 

[sixart]

I found sixart but he only has the compressed version. Not sure how much the compressed version gets downgraded so...

Man honestly I don't care which you prefer if you just run it through a google search you will find eventually a fast file server that contains it too ( or is that also a no go zone like torrent ? ) it barely cost one a minute to find stuff on the interweb...

 

[NewTricks]

Hmmm, think neither schizophrenia nor this extreme case of split personality is a good scenario...
There's stress induced delusions as an option too, it's less severe then schizophrenia although it's roughly related, big difference however is schizofrenia is more common and usually surfaces from puberty to mid twenties while delusional disorder is rare but often occurs midlife... It's likely Bella would have been diagnosed much earlier if it was schizofrenia.
And then there's a possibility it's caused by intoxination too, alcohol, drugs but also wrong medication and such.
Ah well, loads of possibilities anyway... so i hope there's a better diagnoses then your best case scenario.

(ah, and check out "hide and seek" if you didn't already!)

Well not to say it was the best-case scenario in the best of all possible worlds, but seeing people who aren't there is never going to be a happy fun time. But you're right. Maybe she just smoked too much crack when she was a teenager and there is too much lead in her drinking water.

 

[makol420]

MC's knows his mother's name, so it's highly unlikely she is a Burgmeister, MC would have noticed when applying to the school before he even met Rusty.... So if she's related to the Burgmeister's it's not likely it's by name.... (the dead grandma was a Burgmeister or a Burgmeister is married to a sister of MC's grandfather, things like that)
The big question is why would it be important for the story? There's already a link between Rusty and MC : the Dik's !

For the polaroid camera, well, that's not a likely link, these are fairly common and Lynette was not yet involved with Neil when that picture was taken. Then Jill made one after MC's 19th birthday, so there's roughly 20 years (19 year + 9 months pregnant + whatever time between the photo was taken and Lynette indeed hooked up with Neil and got pregnant)
Still could be it's for sentimental reasons if it really is Lana's camera, but would it even work after all this time?

As for Lana, she looks about 18/19 when she talks to a Jill that's anywhere between 10 and 14, hard to say exact.
That said Jill is 21 now, Lynette would be 38-40, and Lana would be 25 - 30 now (4-9 years older then Jill)
So being one of Lynette's friends is not likely. But it's possible Lynette or one of her girlfriends were Lana's babysitter.
This one can still go anywhere, we know there's a link between Lynette and Jill : Jill's parental home.

Thanks for the comment! I really like this kind of VN/Game Us who play are really becoming involve. Our imaginations, deductive reasoning, critical thinking are being put to the test. What is the relationship of this to that, what will happen if you choose this path. I really love reading the forum. There are some arguments, but its fun because of the interaction! Its not perfect just like the others are saying there are flaws. But there are no such thing as perfection. The only thing I don't like is the waiting for the next episodes, But I understand DPC's situation.

 

[AchedCroissant]

How would you explain the wedding photo MC saw in her room?

What photo?

This photo?

 

[sixart]

What photo?

This photo?
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That's a wedding to remember...

 

[makol420]

So you're telling me he never seen his own birth certificate or his own passport? You either are in a passport of your parents until you're 18, or you need a birth certificate (both parents on it) to get the passport when you turn 18.
Sorry, but that's just highly unlikely, a child can be born without any known father, but that would mean in any case his mother's name is on the birth certificate.... So the mother's name is known eitherway, he might even have it since his parents weren't married. The game just doesn't tell us.

I have a question, I just realize it just now, How do you write your name? I'm not familiar with other countries. In the Philippines we write it our Given Name then our middle name or initial (which is our mother's maiden surname) finally our surname (which is we all knew our fathers surname unless your mother is not married to your father and use her surname instead). Ex. Alfredo B. (Benedicto) Cruz. If this is the same in other countries the MC should know her mother's surname. (Thanks to you vogelbeest for telling me this because of your reply/comment from my previous post.) Now unless her mother is disowned by her family and changed her surname.

 

[Skeltom]

I have a question, I just realize it just now, How do you write your name? I'm not familiar with other countries. In the Philippines we write it our Given Name then our middle name or initial (which is our mother's maiden surname) finally our surname (which is we all knew our fathers surname unless your mother is not married to your father and use her surname instead). Ex. Alfredo B. (Benedicto) Cruz. If this is the same in other countries the MC should know her mother's surname. (Thanks to you vogelbeest for telling me this because of your reply/comment from my previous post.) Now unless her mother is disowned by her family and changed her surname.

It's likely that the MC has his fathers surname if she in fact did die during child birth. He may have it in memoriam of her but this is DPC, he likes to hide and use them for dramatic effect so I wouldn't be surprised if she is tied to B&R to some degree. There are already hints towards that.

In America the middle initial can be anything really. It's not explicitly tied to the mothers maiden name. I happen to have the same middle name as my father. Thomas Leroy Anderson, he has it because it was his fathers middle name and now it's mine because it was his. It's different for every family.

 

[dalli_x]

Bella's boss' reaction is weird. She sends her off home, just for having a conversation with her husband? That's ridiculous. What's more concerning is that Bella's boss doesn't even acknowledge James' presence in the room - it's like he's not even there, which is an eerie feeling I got during the scene.

They get outside and DPC uses a camera technique called "Deep Focus", where an object in the background also happens to be in sharp focus and be seen clearly. In that scene it's weird - there's that guy with the glasses that's watching them, he's clearly in focus and he's like in the center of the screen. His reactions to Bella and James' conversation are headscratching, because they are concerning and Bella and James' didn't talk anything extraordinary anyway, but his reaction is also an alarming hint.

Which leads us to the theory itself - James' isn't there with Bella in the library, he's a hallucination/projection of her mind and she was talking to herself the entire time. Now what happened to him is up for guess, but the most fitting version is that he's dead and it's something that Bella can't accept - she had a nervous breakdown and has some serious mental issues, so it's easier to explain why she's waiting for him to come back.

Bella's boss sends Bella home not because she was talking to her husband, but because they were about to get intimate, and that's not appropriate in a library.

I agree with you about the "depth of field." But that rules out your theory from the start. Why would Isabella have a hallucination/projection of James and at the same time insert the man with the glasses into her hallucination/projection?

That doesn't make any sense.

Let's assume that what DPC shows us in the flashback of Isabella James is what it is. A man is visiting his wife at work. Both are about to do something naughty in a library where there is supposed to be dead silence. The boss sends Bella and James home and Isabella's stalker is already waiting outside the library.

 

[Skeltom]

Bella's boss sends Bella home not because she was talking to her husband, but because they were about to get intimate, and that's not appropriate in a library.

I agree with you about the "depth of field." But that rules out your theory from the start. Why would Isabella have a hallucination/projection of James and at the same time insert the man with the glasses into her hallucination/projection?

That doesn't make any sense.

Let's assume that what DPC shows us in the flashback of Isabella James is what it is. A man is visiting his wife at work. Both are about to do something naughty in a library where there is supposed to be dead silence. The boss sends Bella and James home and Isabella's stalker is already waiting outside the library.

I think the guy on the stairs is definitely a part of why James is gone now. I still think it was a mugging gone wrong and that's where he possibly even died. Hence her over the top reaction to the MC trying to bring her back there for the date. You don't freak out like that just because you used to spend time there with your husband. It also seems that Bella stayed local after what happened to him and she doesn't have the same reaction to other places in the area. How likely is it that she never went to her favorite restaurant with him, or to the local mall where she shops with Jill? I think that scene is what it is and also the start of everything that happened.

 

[sixart]

Let's assume that what DPC shows us in the flashback of Isabella James is what it is

Someone must have taken Dalli-s account !!!

I can smell a theory cooking in the distance...

 

[dalli_x]

Someone must have taken Dalli-s account !!!

I can smell a theory cooking in the distance...

Not really. I just want Neil to get to know and love Isabella so that my MC gets a good stepmother.

 

[sixart]

Not really. I just want Neil to get to know and love Isabella so that my MC gets a good stepmother.

Riiiight... stepmother... INCEST alert !!! BADIK get's thrown into to pile of thrash thanks to dalli_x -s wish...

 

[sixart]

In my playthroughs, there would be no incest because my MC is absolutely not sexually interested in Isabella.

That might be but since it's a possibility it would make no difference

 

[spl00sh321]

Man I guess it really is hard to get into the game now, huh? I mean just to make sure, I would need to download that 0.8.2 version, right? It does include Season 1 and 2 I reckon? But how can I actually do that when all hosts are pretty much dead aside from Mega? Mega is great and pretty fast but the game is 18GB big and the limit is 5GB unless you get Mega premium or something...

Is there any other way to download it?

Google Brandy port.

 

[sixart]

^ lol

 

[godkingxerxes]

In my runs, there would be no incest because my MC has absolutely no sexual interest in Isabella.

And even if the MC fucks Isabella, it would not be incest if Neil married Isabella later. During Isabella's coitus with the MC there would have been no kinship yet.

So by that logic, if Sage wasn't officially adopted by Jade, we can have a Sage/Jade threesome because she was never actually her step mother?

 

[Lostanddamned]

I've never bought into this theory. How would you explain the wedding photo MC saw in her room? Is MC hallucinating as well?

Read again. I never said James never existed, what I implied was that after he was gone, it's something that Bella couldn't accept and overcome and he never really was in the library. That's why she got sent home, because her boss saw her talking to herself/nobody and knowing what happened beforehand, decides to send her home.