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Just playing back through and I noticed that Dick and Burke look alike. Wouldn't have noticed but they're right next to each other on the Bios page.
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Soooooo....*pulls sleeves up*, I think its that time again where we absolutely have to discuss if Lynette is dead or alive.
From a realism point of view I'd say its low to very low odds, but some things just strike me as very odd, so lets first establish how it could be possible.
When Neil and Lynette enter the hospital and Lynette gives birth, we know that she is awake for a long enough time, to say smth to the MC, as Neil explained in EP01. Now postpartum hemorrhage ( excessive blood loss after giving birth ) is a thing, it would trigger an emergency surgery at which point Lynette would obviously be unconscious. When that happens, Neil would no longer be the person that gets updated on her medical status, but her next of kin, in this case: her parents. An artificial coma is sometimes used in cases of excessive blood loss to stabilise the patient, it's also possible that Lynette sliped into a coma herself. Needless to say a coma can go hand in hand with memory loss, you can read those stories all the time : "mother wakes up and had forgotten that she was pregnant and gave birth."
Now up untill here, if I squint my eyes long enough, I can see it happen, but I just cant bridge how Lynettes parents would have managed to either convince Neil that she died, or have someone else do it. Yeah, money is often helpfull in these circumstances, but I dont think a doctor would risk his/her license by falsely stating someone died.
Did Lynette parents blackmail Neil ? Like was there a very good chance Lynette would die and only an extraordinary expensive surgery would give her any odds to survive ? Did they tell him "We'll pay for it, but in return you take that bastard child and never contact our daughter again!!!"? Is that why Neil cant move on even after 19 years? The death of a loved one is a final state, it's closure, its something that, with time, a person can learn to live with, especially when there is a child involved, guilt on the other hand, can hollow you out for the rest of your life.
Now why go there in the first place ? What's so odd ?
1. The entire 'inheritance procedure' made absolutely no sense whatsoever. The MC's age at the time (6 weeks shy of turning 19), how he was contacted (he wasnt), how it was delivered(by mail), who it got delivered too(his dad) and finally you guys have any idea how unlikely it is, to recieve a flat 5k check after 19 years of interests ? Inheriting is not a "oh well its Monday lets do it this way" thing, its governed by laws and wills. I doubt that DPC didnt at least cover the rock bottom basics when researching it, so something is super fishy here.
2. The MC almost flipped when he recieved his Mom's diary, it instantly became his most valueable possession, yet when he gets bullied in school, when Zoey leaves, when the hook up with Josy goes sideways or when he gets his 'inheritance', DPC is supposed to pass on at least one "visiting his mothers grave" moment ? Thats like a free supah dupah "awwww" moment right there, thats makes the MC more human and more relateable. DPC totally milked the MC telling Josy, Maya, Sage, Jill and Bella about his mom, and yet he stops at the biggest possible emotional respone ? Not even a single line with 0 renders "I visited moms grave today and told her all about college". Yea, Im not buying it, thats super fishy aswell.
3. Why did not a single person of his mothers side of the family ever try to contact him ? No grandpa, no grandma, no aunt, no nothing ? He doesnt even seem to know their last name ! Even if the grandpa hates Neil with a passion, after the pain of the loss slowly subsides, wouldnt there be a moment of realisation where he goes like "That's my heir, my legacy !!!". Why not avoid Neil altogether and visit him at school, or when Neil is at work ? Losing a child is the most excruciating pain any parent can ever feel, but having a grandchild is usually the #1 best cure for it, even if there is a constant reminder of the person they lost. That's an entire fish market of fishyness !
4. The diary itself. Why throw that into the mix and waste a shitton of rendering ressources on that ? If Lynette is dead, she has no part to play in future episodes, the MC never knew her and the hole in his life due to the absence of his mother is already well established. There is nothing new for us to learn, except what was and unless I'm mistaken, its the only story in the entire game with the sole purpose of shining a light onto a time before the MC was even born! And on top of all that, its not a one episode 'MC reads his mom's diary and is glad he got to know her' thingy, it spawns multiple episodes and is almost handled like its sacred or very important ?! Like why start the game showing the difficulty of growing up as an half-orphan from a low income home and then throw the 'dead parent' into our faces again and again ? You guessed it : fishy !
My guess is, IF Lynette is alive and I'm very well aware the odds are slim, the diary is the key. There has to be a reason why DPC stretches it out like a rubberband, one of them pages has to have an impact on the future, it just has to ! Maybe its an Aunt we dont know about or maybe its Lynette herself, but something is going on here, I'm certain of it.
If you read all that, respect and thank you... man that was .... A LOT.
Hawk out.
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Soooooo....*pulls sleeves up*, I think its that time again where we absolutely have to discuss if Lynette is dead or alive.
From a realism point of view I'd say its low to very low odds, but some things just strike me as very odd, so lets first establish how it could be possible.
When Neil and Lynette enter the hospital and Lynette gives birth, we know that she is awake for a long enough time, to say smth to the MC, as Neil explained in EP01. Now postpartum hemorrhage ( excessive blood loss after giving birth ) is a thing, it would trigger an emergency surgery at which point Lynette would obviously be unconscious. When that happens, Neil would no longer be the person that gets updated on her medical status, but her next of kin, in this case: her parents. An artificial coma is sometimes used in cases of excessive blood loss to stabilise the patient, it's also possible that Lynette sliped into a coma herself. Needless to say a coma can go hand in hand with memory loss, you can read those stories all the time : "mother wakes up and had forgotten that she was pregnant and gave birth."
Now up untill here, if I squint my eyes long enough, I can see it happen, but I just cant bridge how Lynettes parents would have managed to either convince Neil that she died, or have someone else do it. Yeah, money is often helpfull in these circumstances, but I dont think a doctor would risk his/her license by falsely stating someone died.
Did Lynette parents blackmail Neil ? Like was there a very good chance Lynette would die and only an extraordinary expensive surgery would give her any odds to survive ? Did they tell him "We'll pay for it, but in return you take that bastard child and never contact our daughter again!!!"? Is that why Neil cant move on even after 19 years? The death of a loved one is a final state, it's closure, its something that, with time, a person can learn to live with, especially when there is a child involved, guilt on the other hand, can hollow you out for the rest of your life.
Now why go there in the first place ? What's so odd ?
1. The entire 'inheritance procedure' made absolutely no sense whatsoever. The MC's age at the time (6 weeks shy of turning 19), how he was contacted (he wasnt), how it was delivered(by mail), who it got delivered too(his dad) and finally you guys have any idea how unlikely it is, to recieve a flat 5k check after 19 years of interests ? Inheriting is not a "oh well its Monday lets do it this way" thing, its governed by laws and wills. I doubt that DPC didnt at least cover the rock bottom basics when researching it, so something is super fishy here.
2. The MC almost flipped when he recieved his Mom's diary, it instantly became his most valueable possession, yet when he gets bullied in school, when Zoey leaves, when the hook up with Josy goes sideways or when he gets his 'inheritance', DPC is supposed to pass on at least one "visiting his mothers grave" moment ? Thats like a free supah dupah "awwww" moment right there, thats makes the MC more human and more relateable. DPC totally milked the MC telling Josy, Maya, Sage, Jill and Bella about his mom, and yet he stops at the biggest possible emotional respone ? Not even a single line with 0 renders "I visited moms grave today and told her all about college". Yea, Im not buying it, thats super fishy aswell.
3. Why did not a single person of his mothers side of the family ever try to contact him ? No grandpa, no grandma, no aunt, no nothing ? He doesnt even seem to know their last name ! Even if the grandpa hates Neil with a passion, after the pain of the loss slowly subsides, wouldnt there be a moment of realisation where he goes like "That's my heir, my legacy !!!". Why not avoid Neil altogether and visit him at school, or when Neil is at work ? Losing a child is the most excruciating pain any parent can ever feel, but having a grandchild is usually the #1 best cure for it, even if there is a constant reminder of the person they lost. That's an entire fish market of fishyness !
4. The diary itself. Why throw that into the mix and waste a shitton of rendering ressources on that ? If Lynette is dead, she has no part to play in future episodes, the MC never knew her and the hole in his life due to the absence of his mother is already well established. There is nothing new for us to learn, except what was and unless I'm mistaken, its the only story in the entire game with the sole purpose of shining a light onto a time before the MC was even born! And on top of all that, its not a one episode 'MC reads his mom's diary and is glad he got to know her' thingy, it spawns multiple episodes and is almost handled like its sacred or very important ?! Like why start the game showing the difficulty of growing up as an half-orphan from a low income home and then throw the 'dead parent' into our faces again and again ? You guessed it : fishy !
My guess is, IF Lynette is alive and I'm very well aware the odds are slim, the diary is the key. There has to be a reason why DPC stretches it out like a rubberband, one of them pages has to have an impact on the future, it just has to ! Maybe its an Aunt we dont know about or maybe its Lynette herself, but something is going on here, I'm certain of it.
If you read all that, respect and thank you... man that was .... A LOT.
Hawk out.
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An excellent, spot on post as alwaysWhen you say the writing to BaDIK isn't that good, are you talking about the story, or the dialogue?
If you're talking about the story, then yeah, the story isn't marvellous. It's just a slice of life of a big dicked protagonist. There are a few minor holes that DPC has dug himself into (mostly the Maya loan but even that can be resolved with a simple explanation), and ultimately the "story" is just a setting for the antics to reside in.
Or do you mean the actual words that he writes, i.e. the dialogue which propels the story along.
Because when it comes to the dialogue in this game, I love it. Every character is clearly unique and mostly consistent with themselves, and the comedy and delivery, while unique to different characters, is right up my alley.
The scenes are well placed together, with music, situation and character performances, such that so many scenes nail exactly what DPC was trying to portray, and replaying them is almost as highly entertaining as experiencing them for the first time (and in some cases a second play though is even more fun when you discover nuance that you missed the first time around - lurking this thread can always assist in that).
The dialogue, direction, music, graphics, all of it, is spot on in my book, making the game a highly enjoyable, repeatable experience. No other game here has come close for me, most of them I need to take a break from, others just completely lose my interest, and in cases of closing in on the ending of some, I just speed through to complete it.
"Depraved Awakening" was an example where by the end of the game I didn't give a fuck about any of the characters and just wanted to end it - not my life, the game...
I gave CoBD a break for a number of releases then played the whole thing from the beginning and it was a slog. While the story is interesting as it unfolds, there's very little in it that makes it interesting on a second play through. It's all rather wooden second time around.
So to me, something like CoBD is almost the opposite of BaDIK when it comes to writing. The story of CoBD feels unique and interesting, but the dialogue and characters are somewhat uninspired. Whereas BaDIK's story is nothing special, but the characters come right off the screen.
I'm not denying that the drama in Being a DIK is right up there with daytime soap operas; it's contrived and typically easily solvable, however it's the characters that make the ride so much fun, and we get caught up in the silly drama because we care about the characters.
Even the simple banter between Sage and the mc over Rooster is fun. And when they decide to start dating and Sage confesses she's struggling to type to him, and the "favourites" heart next to his name is putting her off. Of course the mc milks it, because that's exactly how he would react to Sage's dilemma.
And it's DPC's writing that make his characters so great.
The trick to it, is press the TAB key so the game runs through it quickly, there won't be that prolonged delay that catches you off guard each time.
The other key to success, press the mouse down before on the FLIP button as soon as it appears and hold it down, release it when the arrow is sliding into the green (or even the instant before). Do that rather than pressing and releasing it all in one go, you'll be faster on the release that way (the game is looking for mouse up, not mouse down).
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I agree completely. The importance of the diary has got me intrigued for quite awhile. Obviously it's gonna give us some big revelation regarding MC's family. Will it be that Lynette is alive, or that Neil isn't the biological father? Will it be we are related to Jill not through the mother but through the (unknown) father? (Auntie Jill theory lives again, bitches
).Either way I think it's shaping up to be an all-time-classic soap opera cliche (the unknown parent, a loved one coming back from the dead, or any other variation). Do I expect it to give a satisfactory answer to all the plotholes you mentioned? (the absence of Lynette's grave, last name, lack of basic knowledge or interaction with maternal family, the all over the place inheritance thing). I hope so but I doubt it. Nevertheless, it's fun waiting for it and speculating.
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You are correct about dialogue, especially with Derek.When you say the writing to BaDIK isn't that good, are you talking about the story, or the dialogue?
If you're talking about the story, then yeah, the story isn't marvellous. It's just a slice of life of a big dicked protagonist. There are a few minor holes that DPC has dug himself into (mostly the Maya loan but even that can be resolved with a simple explanation), and ultimately the "story" is just a setting for the antics to reside in.
Or do you mean the actual words that he writes, i.e. the dialogue which propels the story along.
Because when it comes to the dialogue in this game, I love it. Every character is clearly unique and mostly consistent with themselves, and the comedy and delivery, while unique to different characters, is right up my alley.
The scenes are well placed together, with music, situation and character performances, such that so many scenes nail exactly what DPC was trying to portray, and replaying them is almost as highly entertaining as experiencing them for the first time (and in some cases a second play though is even more fun when you discover nuance that you missed the first time around - lurking this thread can always assist in that
The dialogue, direction, music, graphics, all of it, is spot on in my book, making the game a highly enjoyable, repeatable experience. No other game here has come close for me, most of them I need to take a break from, others just completely lose my interest, and in cases of closing in on the ending of some, I just speed through to complete it.
"Depraved Awakening" was an example where by the end of the game I didn't give a fuck about any of the characters and just wanted to end it - not my life, the game...
I gave CoBD a break for a number of releases then played the whole thing from the beginning and it was a slog. While the story is interesting as it unfolds, there's very little in it that makes it interesting on a second play through. It's all rather wooden second time around.
So to me, something like CoBD is almost the opposite of BaDIK when it comes to writing. The story of CoBD feels unique and interesting, but the dialogue and characters are somewhat uninspired. Whereas BaDIK's story is nothing special, but the characters come right off the screen.
I'm not denying that the drama in Being a DIK is right up there with daytime soap operas; it's contrived and typically easily solvable, however it's the characters that make the ride so much fun, and we get caught up in the silly drama because we care about the characters.
Even the simple banter between Sage and the mc over Rooster is fun. And when they decide to start dating and Sage confesses she's struggling to type to him, and the "favourites" heart next to his name is putting her off. Of course the mc milks it, because that's exactly how he would react to Sage's dilemma.
And it's DPC's writing that make his characters so great.
The trick to it, is press the TAB key so the game runs through it quickly, there won't be that prolonged delay that catches you off guard each time.
The other key to success, press the mouse down before on the FLIP button as soon as it appears and hold it down, release it when the arrow is sliding into the green (or even the instant before). Do that rather than pressing and releasing it all in one go, you'll be faster on the release that way (the game is looking for mouse up, not mouse down).
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Story is the key for me though. If I like where the story is going, it grabs me. If I don't I have to look for other reasons, and with BaDIK that is exactly what happened.
It doesn't help with most of these porn novels, that they get banged to death with various types. Without a doubt though, the teenaged boy goes to college, and becomes a MAN is one of the most tired of all the tropes.... or a DIK in this case. Probably only second to the boy comes home from college and bangs his hot sister and still hot mom and dozens of other people in town, which begs the question of why the stupid son of a bitch left town anyhow if there are that many hotties and he has a destiny as a porn star with his tripod dick....?
Yeah, I think the BaDIK story is so full of bs holes that I dread even reading it and just want to flip through the renders sometimes. Then I get curious to see if he plugs any of the Plot holes, rather than a HOT hole....
He doesn't.
Excellent.
Lynette is alive, she had plastic surgery... memory loss.... family and her somehow had a falling out..works at a strip club......
Her sister can't even recognize her, she goes to college... stays in a Frat house full of rich snobs......
Their cousin had a kid.... they are down on their luck... they deal drugs for a living.....
His dad, who came from money, was disowned for having sex with his own mother.... tragic really...
His only sister, a real hottie, married some hot shot investor who now is on the board at a nearby college.. She has done well for herself, even adopted a knockout red head daughter to share the wealth with.... from her own cousin, who had the kid out of wedlock, and had to give up the kid because if she didn't her folks wouldn't have paid for Her college....
Lost yet?
Seriously, good post....
Ever wonder why Neil is sooooooo hung up on condoms, and why the MC refuses to wear them, even with hookers and strippers????
Peace
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Lynette's diary will certainly have its purpose in the story (it has bored me a lot for now), although it may well have served its purpose with the group photo in front of Jill's house (and what will follow).
there are several oddities , above all the continuous emphasis on how Neil has difficulty in telling and remembering anything about Lynette to MC
others are just part of the speed of the story, the fact that we have never seen Lynette's tombstone doesn't mean it doesn't exist and doesn't mean that MC or Neil don't visit it. the fact that Lynette's last name is never mentioned doesn't mean that MC doesn't know it etc... just to reiterate: we don't even know MC's last name...
we'll see, I don't have high expectations
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I very much agree with you that not beeing shown in the game doesnt equal that it doesnt happen, but the question remains, why ? Why use everything Lynette related, except the most powerfull ? It's like DPC avoids its like the plague. For a dead woman, Lynette's part in the game is getting bigger and bigger, her death is used as an important, if not the most important trigger with Sage and Jill and a heartfelt moment with Bella, why then avoid the most obvious thing in the world and not give us a single line of the MC visiting his mothers grave ?
We are told once that Lynette died, but everything after that makes absolutely no sense at all, if she is in fact dead.
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I think something big is coming here. As great as the game itself is, a real red thread that leads to some sort of finale is still not recognizable at first glance in the story. Until now it was almost exclusively about everyday college life and building relationships. I strongly assume that the focus will finally be on the story from the next season. And MC's mom and his families background story is undoubtedly a part of it.
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I don't want to get caught up in the discussion of good or bad writing: but a lot of what is being told, outside of the sentimental dynamics between the characters that are BADIK's strong point, doesn't really make much sense (MC not having a television and not knowing that cars have air conditioning...)
it doesn't seem to me that Lynette has such a predominant role, in the end it is normal that MC talks about her, and the fact that he grew up without a mother is certainly the most characterizing aspect for him
In this quote, he says that he is going to go on a long vacation. We don't know how long it will last. Maybe a year or more. But he doesn't say anything about his new and potential game, but only about some hypothetical ideas.
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The doctor does not have to or may not inform Neil because Lynette and Neil were not married and Lynette was probably under the age of majority.
Neil could have seen Lynette in a coma and drawn the wrong conclusion.
I don't think Lynette's parents were blackmailing Neil, I think they were tricking him. I wrote a theory about that a long time ago. Lynette gave birth to twins, only Neil didn't know about it. He sues for custody of the MC and before it comes to Neil finding out through the court that Lynette is still alive and has given birth to twins, Lynette's father gives in and separates the twins.
Later, when Lynette comes out of the coma, her father, who was always against Lynette and Neil's relationship, may have told her that Neil had a fatal work accident. If Lynette did not know she was going to have twins, that would have been easy for the father to explain. However, if Lynette knew she was pregnant with twins, the father may have told her because of Lynette's coma that a child did not survive due to complications at birth.
Re 01.
The inheritance procedure makes sense then, even if Lynette did not die. It could also be that the MC's grandfather died. Since the MC is family, he is entitled to inherit. This is how a possibly living Lynette learned that Neil and the MC were still alive. Be it through a letter that was with the will or the grandmother freed from the husband confesses it to Lynette. If would even favor the latter because someone secretly supported the MC and Neil. No charges were ever filed when the MC had the incident at school when he was 15. He gets accepted into B&R. He gets so influenced that he ends up with the DIKs. At the EP5 preps party, he is wearing black clothes that resemble mourning clothes, and there is another person (woman) wearing mourning clothes. The check could have multiple intentions. Perhaps someone else in the family wants to deprive the MC of his inheritance, or the family wants the MC to prove to himself that he is worthy to be included in the family.
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If what I wrote above is true, there is a possibility that the MC does not know his mother's grave. Look at the picture of Stephen Burke walking by. Isn't it a beautiful church? I wonder who was laid to rest there. Lynette or Lana? The odd thing is that this church was probably built when Lana was alive, which you can see in the background of the photo where Jill is being carried by Lana. But that actually proves that Lynette is dead. Not necessarily. What if Lynette's father had a small church built for the supposedly deceased Neil and MC to give his trade more credibility.
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Re 3.
It's because of what Lynette's father did to her. He is trying to cover it up. The grandfather is the head of the family. What if he is like Patrick? Then none of the other family members would say anything against him. Even Lynette's mother eventually surrenders to her fate, which you can read about in EP8 Lynette's diary. But the grandmother might have secretly supported the MC.
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Put yourself in the MC's shoes. He grows up without a mother and believes that his mother died when he was born. But then his mother stands before him after 19 years of mistaken belief. Who wouldn't have a heart attack? The MC would probably question everything and everyone. Even his father, Neil. Lynette's Diary's could be important in slowly preparing the MC for the meeting of mother and son.
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Perhaps the grave is not on public land, but on a private plot of land owned by the mother's family. That is why they may not be able to visit her grave, if there is one.
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That's a very good point that I've never even thought about. And I can see why the family would deny Neil access, but why the MC ?
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I'm conf.........?
Wha?
Huh?????
Did you mea.....?
The Fuck is all of That?!
I am seriously convinced his mom is alive, but now after reading all of that..... I am totally questioning why I WAS thinking it???
Peace
the game crashes when entering it (looking at taskbar , it opens then closes)
Virus is off, nothing's there
I just got it, and I wanna play it. Never had this issue before
Virus is off, nothing's there
I just got it, and I wanna play it. Never had this issue before
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Obviously I've snipped out a lot there, because as usual you're a madman. she never said boyfriend, she said she had a friend with an older brother. Somehow I doubt Derek counts as an 'older brother', he's the same age as Maya, despite the skateboard. Plus, isn't he MC's age? Not old enough to get them liquor. Have Derek or Maya ever mentioned having a notably older sibling?I have to get rid of another theory about Zoey. She had a boyfriend with an older brother. In the interlude, the MC told Zoey that sometimes he thinks he is not the only one for Zoey.
But.. it is one of the lesser implausible scenarios you've presented, from your myriad of insane ones that you pull out of your arse. Nicely done.
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Impossible to help you off of just that, what does the log.txt and traceback.txt say ?
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It seems to me the MC doesn't know his mother at all. His father is obviously a single parent. For my part, I'm not even sure that the mother is dead. This can also be a white lie on the part of the father, because he cannot bear the truth. And that truth can pretty much be anything or nothing. Maybe she just disappeared from his life and he doesn't even know himself what actually happened. There is still some interesting revelation to come. I'm sure we'll be in for a few more surprises.
It's always interesting and fascinating to see how much this game inspires people to come up with ideas for the backround story, which is still almost completely secret. But that also shows that he developer does a lot of things right. There are only very few games where the fans put their heart and soul into the matter.
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Just a reminder. This is the most cruel scene in the whole game.
