VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[felicemastronzo]

I very much agree with you that not beeing shown in the game doesnt equal that it doesnt happen, but the question remains, why ? Why use everything Lynette related, except the most powerfull ? It's like DPC avoids its like the plague. For a dead woman, Lynette's part in the game is getting bigger and bigger, her death is used as an important, if not the most important trigger with Sage and Jill and a heartfelt moment with Bella, why then avoid the most obvious thing in the world and not give us a single line of the MC visiting his mothers grave ?

We are told once that Lynette died, but everything after that makes absolutely no sense at all, if she is in fact dead.

I don't want to get caught up in the discussion of good or bad writing: but a lot of what is being told, outside of the sentimental dynamics between the characters that are BADIK's strong point, doesn't really make much sense (MC not having a television and not knowing that cars have air conditioning...)

it doesn't seem to me that Lynette has such a predominant role, in the end it is normal that MC talks about her, and the fact that he grew up without a mother is certainly the most characterizing aspect for him

 

[PashafromRussia]

This is a false claim which directly contradicts what DPC has said himself multiple times in the past (incl. the most recent Q&A).
Actually, this isn't the first time you have said something in the name of DPC and added 'he said so on Discord' or something along those lines even when he hasn't done so or has said something similar but in a different context. You twist DPC's words or make some claims and then support them by adding the 'DPC said so on Discord' line each time relying on people on here not checking for themselves or just taking your word for it (which would be the wrong thing to do because 90% of those are false).
I don't see a reason why would you do it, but you still do because no one has called you out yet.
This post about Badik being 'DPC's last game', your post about 'DPC coming up with the Interlude during work (or smth like that)' even though it was meant in a completely different context and said by him about the start of his AVN journey in general and not the Interlude separately, claiming that 'DPC has confirmed that he uses Blender on Discord' which he never did, etc.
Enough is enough, don't make outright false claims because sooner or later people might and will catch on...

Nowhere, because DPC never said that

I try not to plan too far ahead. In my mind, I will take a break and do tasks such as polishing the game further. But then there's another part in my mind saying, "We both know that's not gonna happen". I have several ideas of what I want to do after the final episode rolls out, and one of these ideas is growing to be better and better. I've had this idea even before last year's Q&A, and it's still here, so I think I know where I'm heading, but time will tell. I don't want to spoil this idea because someone else would snatch it up.

I don't know how I will feel after the game is completed. I think I will be drained after doing everything I have planned for Being a DIK. I want to go on a long vacation with my wife at some point. The pandemic has conveniently postponed that, though.

In this quote, he says that he is going to go on a long vacation. We don't know how long it will last. Maybe a year or more. But he doesn't say anything about his new and potential game, but only about some hypothetical ideas.

 

[dalli_x]

[dalli_x]

Soooooo....*pulls sleeves up*, I think its that time again where we absolutely have to discuss if Lynette is dead or alive.

From a realism point of view I'd say its low to very low odds, but some things just strike me as very odd, so lets first establish how it could be possible.

When Neil and Lynette enter the hospital and Lynette gives birth, we know that she is awake for a long enough time, to say smth to the MC, as Neil explained in EP01. Now postpartum hemorrhage ( excessive blood loss after giving birth ) is a thing, it would trigger an emergency surgery at which point Lynette would obviously be unconscious. When that happens, Neil would no longer be the person that gets updated on her medical status, but her next of kin, in this case: her parents. An artificial coma is sometimes used in cases of excessive blood loss to stabilise the patient, it's also possible that Lynette sliped into a coma herself. Needless to say a coma can go hand in hand with memory loss, you can read those stories all the time : "mother wakes up and had forgotten that she was pregnant and gave birth."

Now up untill here, if I squint my eyes long enough, I can see it happen, but I just cant bridge how Lynettes parents would have managed to either convince Neil that she died, or have someone else do it. Yeah, money is often helpfull in these circumstances, but I dont think a doctor would risk his/her license by falsely stating someone died.

Did Lynette parents blackmail Neil ? Like was there a very good chance Lynette would die and only an extraordinary expensive surgery would give her any odds to survive ? Did they tell him "We'll pay for it, but in return you take that bastard child and never contact our daughter again!!!"? Is that why Neil cant move on even after 19 years? The death of a loved one is a final state, it's closure, its something that, with time, a person can learn to live with, especially when there is a child involved, guilt on the other hand, can hollow you out for the rest of your life.

Now why go there in the first place ? What's so odd ?

1. The entire 'inheritance procedure' made absolutely no sense whatsoever. The MC's age at the time (6 weeks shy of turning 19), how he was contacted (he wasnt), how it was delivered(by mail), who it got delivered too(his dad) and finally you guys have any idea how unlikely it is, to recieve a flat 5k check after 19 years of interests ? Inheriting is not a "oh well its Monday lets do it this way" thing, its governed by laws and wills. I doubt that DPC didnt at least cover the rock bottom basics when researching it, so something is super fishy here.

2. The MC almost flipped when he recieved his Mom's diary, it instantly became his most valueable possession, yet when he gets bullied in school, when Zoey leaves, when the hook up with Josy goes sideways or when he gets his 'inheritance', DPC is supposed to pass on at least one "visiting his mothers grave" moment ? Thats like a free supah dupah "awwww" moment right there, thats makes the MC more human and more relateable. DPC totally milked the MC telling Josy, Maya, Sage, Jill and Bella about his mom, and yet he stops at the biggest possible emotional respone ? Not even a single line with 0 renders "I visited moms grave today and told her all about college". Yea, Im not buying it, thats super fishy aswell.

3. Why did not a single person of his mothers side of the family ever try to contact him ? No grandpa, no grandma, no aunt, no nothing ? He doesnt even seem to know their last name ! Even if the grandpa hates Neil with a passion, after the pain of the loss slowly subsides, wouldnt there be a moment of realisation where he goes like "That's my heir, my legacy !!!". Why not avoid Neil altogether and visit him at school, or when Neil is at work ? Losing a child is the most excruciating pain any parent can ever feel, but having a grandchild is usually the #1 best cure for it, even if there is a constant reminder of the person they lost. That's an entire fish market of fishyness !

4. The diary itself. Why throw that into the mix and waste a shitton of rendering ressources on that ? If Lynette is dead, she has no part to play in future episodes, the MC never knew her and the hole in his life due to the absence of his mother is already well established. There is nothing new for us to learn, except what was and unless I'm mistaken, its the only story in the entire game with the sole purpose of shining a light onto a time before the MC was even born! And on top of all that, its not a one episode 'MC reads his mom's diary and is glad he got to know her' thingy, it spawns multiple episodes and is almost handled like its sacred or very important ?! Like why start the game showing the difficulty of growing up as an half-orphan from a low income home and then throw the 'dead parent' into our faces again and again ? You guessed it : fishy !

My guess is, IF Lynette is alive and I'm very well aware the odds are slim, the diary is the key. There has to be a reason why DPC stretches it out like a rubberband, one of them pages has to have an impact on the future, it just has to ! Maybe its an Aunt we dont know about or maybe its Lynette herself, but something is going on here, I'm certain of it.

If you read all that, respect and thank you... man that was .... A LOT.

Hawk out.

[/dalli_x]

The doctor does not have to or may not inform Neil because Lynette and Neil were not married and Lynette was probably under the age of majority.

Neil could have seen Lynette in a coma and drawn the wrong conclusion.

I don't think Lynette's parents were blackmailing Neil, I think they were tricking him. I wrote a theory about that a long time ago. Lynette gave birth to twins, only Neil didn't know about it. He sues for custody of the MC and before it comes to Neil finding out through the court that Lynette is still alive and has given birth to twins, Lynette's father gives in and separates the twins.

Later, when Lynette comes out of the coma, her father, who was always against Lynette and Neil's relationship, may have told her that Neil had a fatal work accident. If Lynette did not know she was going to have twins, that would have been easy for the father to explain. However, if Lynette knew she was pregnant with twins, the father may have told her because of Lynette's coma that a child did not survive due to complications at birth.

Re 01.
The inheritance procedure makes sense then, even if Lynette did not die. It could also be that the MC's grandfather died. Since the MC is family, he is entitled to inherit. This is how a possibly living Lynette learned that Neil and the MC were still alive. Be it through a letter that was with the will or the grandmother freed from the husband confesses it to Lynette. If would even favor the latter because someone secretly supported the MC and Neil. No charges were ever filed when the MC had the incident at school when he was 15. He gets accepted into B&R. He gets so influenced that he ends up with the DIKs. At the EP5 preps party, he is wearing black clothes that resemble mourning clothes, and there is another person (woman) wearing mourning clothes. The check could have multiple intentions. Perhaps someone else in the family wants to deprive the MC of his inheritance, or the family wants the MC to prove to himself that he is worthy to be included in the family.

Re 2.
If what I wrote above is true, there is a possibility that the MC does not know his mother's grave. Look at the picture of Stephen Burke walking by. Isn't it a beautiful church? I wonder who was laid to rest there. Lynette or Lana? The odd thing is that this church was probably built when Lana was alive, which you can see in the background of the photo where Jill is being carried by Lana. But that actually proves that Lynette is dead. Not necessarily. What if Lynette's father had a small church built for the supposedly deceased Neil and MC to give his trade more credibility.

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Re 3.
It's because of what Lynette's father did to her. He is trying to cover it up. The grandfather is the head of the family. What if he is like Patrick? Then none of the other family members would say anything against him. Even Lynette's mother eventually surrenders to her fate, which you can read about in EP8 Lynette's diary. But the grandmother might have secretly supported the MC.

Re 4.
Put yourself in the MC's shoes. He grows up without a mother and believes that his mother died when he was born. But then his mother stands before him after 19 years of mistaken belief. Who wouldn't have a heart attack? The MC would probably question everything and everyone. Even his father, Neil. Lynette's Diary's could be important in slowly preparing the MC for the meeting of mother and son.

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[fasdfaq123]

I very much agree with you that not beeing shown in the game doesnt equal that it doesnt happen, but the question remains, why ? Why use everything Lynette related, except the most powerfull ? It's like DPC avoids its like the plague. For a dead woman, Lynette's part in the game is getting bigger and bigger, her death is used as an important, if not the most important trigger with Sage and Jill and a heartfelt moment with Bella, why then avoid the most obvious thing in the world and not give us a single line of the MC visiting his mothers grave ?

We are told once that Lynette died, but everything after that makes absolutely no sense at all, if she is in fact dead.

Perhaps the grave is not on public land, but on a private plot of land owned by the mother's family. That is why they may not be able to visit her grave, if there is one.

 

[TimHawk]

Perhaps the grave is not on public land, but on a private plot of land owned by the mother's family. That is why they may not be able to visit her grave, if there is one.

That's a very good point that I've never even thought about. And I can see why the family would deny Neil access, but why the MC ?

 

[Arigon]

The doctor does not have to or may not inform Neil because Lynette and Neil were not married and Lynette was probably under the age of majority.

Neil could have seen Lynette in a coma and drawn the wrong conclusion.

I don't think Lynette's parents were blackmailing Neil, I think they were tricking him. I wrote a theory about that a long time ago. Lynette gave birth to twins, only Neil didn't know about it. He sues for custody of the MC and before it comes to Neil finding out through the court that Lynette is still alive and has given birth to twins, Lynette's father gives in and separates the twins.

Later, when Lynette comes out of the coma, her father, who was always against Lynette and Neil's relationship, may have told her that Neil had a fatal work accident. If Lynette did not know she was going to have twins, that would have been easy for the father to explain. However, if Lynette knew she was pregnant with twins, the father may have told her because of Lynette's coma that a child did not survive due to complications at birth.

Re 01.
The inheritance procedure makes sense then, even if Lynette did not die. It could also be that the MC's grandfather died. Since the MC is family, he is entitled to inherit. This is how a possibly living Lynette learned that Neil and the MC were still alive. Be it through a letter that was with the will or the grandmother freed from the husband confesses it to Lynette. If would even favor the latter because someone secretly supported the MC and Neil. No charges were ever filed when the MC had the incident at school when he was 15. He gets accepted into B&R. He gets so influenced that he ends up with the DIKs. At the EP5 preps party, he is wearing black clothes that resemble mourning clothes, and there is another person (woman) wearing mourning clothes. The check could have multiple intentions. Perhaps someone else in the family wants to deprive the MC of his inheritance, or the family wants the MC to prove to himself that he is worthy to be included in the family.

Re 2.
If what I wrote above is true, there is a possibility that the MC does not know his mother's grave. Look at the picture of Stephen Burke walking by. Isn't it a beautiful church? I wonder who was laid to rest there. Lynette or Lana? The odd thing is that this church was probably built when Lana was alive, which you can see in the background of the photo where Jill is being carried by Lana. But that actually proves that Lynette is dead. Not necessarily. What if Lynette's father had a small church built for the supposedly deceased Neil and MC to give his trade more credibility.

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Re 3.
It's because of what Lynette's father did to her. He is trying to cover it up. The grandfather is the head of the family. What if he is like Patrick? Then none of the other family members would say anything against him. Even Lynette's mother eventually surrenders to her fate, which you can read about in EP8 Lynette's diary. But the grandmother might have secretly supported the MC.

Re 4.
Put yourself in the MC's shoes. He grows up without a mother and believes that his mother died when he was born. But then his mother stands before him after 19 years of mistaken belief. Who wouldn't have a heart attack? The MC would probably question everything and everyone. Even his father, Neil. Lynette's Diary's could be important in slowly preparing the MC for the meeting of mother and son.

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I'm conf.........?
Wha?
Huh?????
Did you mea.....?
The Fuck is all of That?!
I am seriously convinced his mom is alive, but now after reading all of that..... I am totally questioning why I WAS thinking it???

Peace

 

[htphowtoplay]

the game crashes when entering it (looking at taskbar , it opens then closes)
Virus is off, nothing's there
I just got it, and I wanna play it. Never had this issue before

 

[Ilhares]

I have to get rid of another theory about Zoey. She had a boyfriend with an older brother. In the interlude, the MC told Zoey that sometimes he thinks he is not the only one for Zoey.

Obviously I've snipped out a lot there, because as usual you're a madman. she never said boyfriend, she said she had a friend with an older brother. Somehow I doubt Derek counts as an 'older brother', he's the same age as Maya, despite the skateboard. Plus, isn't he MC's age? Not old enough to get them liquor. Have Derek or Maya ever mentioned having a notably older sibling?

But.. it is one of the lesser implausible scenarios you've presented, from your myriad of insane ones that you pull out of your arse. Nicely done.

 

[TimHawk]

the game crashes when entering it (looking at taskbar , it opens then closes)
Virus is off, nothing's there
I just got it, and I wanna play it. Never had this issue before

Impossible to help you off of just that, what does the log.txt and traceback.txt say ?

 

[exazubi]

The doctor does not have to or may not inform Neil because Lynette and Neil were not married and Lynette was probably under the age of majority.

Neil could have seen Lynette in a coma and drawn the wrong conclusion.

I don't think Lynette's parents were blackmailing Neil, I think they were tricking him. I wrote a theory about that a long time ago. Lynette gave birth to twins, only Neil didn't know about it. He sues for custody of the MC and before it comes to Neil finding out through the court that Lynette is still alive and has given birth to twins, Lynette's father gives in and separates the twins.

Later, when Lynette comes out of the coma, her father, who was always against Lynette and Neil's relationship, may have told her that Neil had a fatal work accident. If Lynette did not know she was going to have twins, that would have been easy for the father to explain. However, if Lynette knew she was pregnant with twins, the father may have told her because of Lynette's coma that a child did not survive due to complications at birth.

Re 01.
The inheritance procedure makes sense then, even if Lynette did not die. It could also be that the MC's grandfather died. Since the MC is family, he is entitled to inherit. This is how a possibly living Lynette learned that Neil and the MC were still alive. Be it through a letter that was with the will or the grandmother freed from the husband confesses it to Lynette. If would even favor the latter because someone secretly supported the MC and Neil. No charges were ever filed when the MC had the incident at school when he was 15. He gets accepted into B&R. He gets so influenced that he ends up with the DIKs. At the EP5 preps party, he is wearing black clothes that resemble mourning clothes, and there is another person (woman) wearing mourning clothes. The check could have multiple intentions. Perhaps someone else in the family wants to deprive the MC of his inheritance, or the family wants the MC to prove to himself that he is worthy to be included in the family.

Re 2.
If what I wrote above is true, there is a possibility that the MC does not know his mother's grave. Look at the picture of Stephen Burke walking by. Isn't it a beautiful church? I wonder who was laid to rest there. Lynette or Lana? The odd thing is that this church was probably built when Lana was alive, which you can see in the background of the photo where Jill is being carried by Lana. But that actually proves that Lynette is dead. Not necessarily. What if Lynette's father had a small church built for the supposedly deceased Neil and MC to give his trade more credibility.

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Re 3.
It's because of what Lynette's father did to her. He is trying to cover it up. The grandfather is the head of the family. What if he is like Patrick? Then none of the other family members would say anything against him. Even Lynette's mother eventually surrenders to her fate, which you can read about in EP8 Lynette's diary. But the grandmother might have secretly supported the MC.

Re 4.
Put yourself in the MC's shoes. He grows up without a mother and believes that his mother died when he was born. But then his mother stands before him after 19 years of mistaken belief. Who wouldn't have a heart attack? The MC would probably question everything and everyone. Even his father, Neil. Lynette's Diary's could be important in slowly preparing the MC for the meeting of mother and son.

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It seems to me the MC doesn't know his mother at all. His father is obviously a single parent. For my part, I'm not even sure that the mother is dead. This can also be a white lie on the part of the father, because he cannot bear the truth. And that truth can pretty much be anything or nothing. Maybe she just disappeared from his life and he doesn't even know himself what actually happened. There is still some interesting revelation to come. I'm sure we'll be in for a few more surprises.

It's always interesting and fascinating to see how much this game inspires people to come up with ideas for the backround story, which is still almost completely secret. But that also shows that he developer does a lot of things right. There are only very few games where the fans put their heart and soul into the matter.

 

[znar25]

Just a reminder. This is the most cruel scene in the whole game.

 

[Trojaner]

Just a reminder. This is the most cruel scene in the whole game.

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Well it is how it is. If ya don't want to hurt someones feelings don't do shit with em, just keep it friendly and nothing else. And much more importent because not even MC knows what he really wants. I'll see the chick choice don't final we had todo until now.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Perhaps the grave is not on public land, but on a private plot of land owned by the mother's family. That is why they may not be able to visit her grave, if there is one.

I believe that in that case Mc would have complained about it and would have felt it as an abuse of power.

 

[Ilhares]

Furthermore, don't make a name for yourself by ignoring the entire context of my original post and just referring to a typo. I think you can do better.

If you'd read what I wrote, it wasn't all centered on your mere typo. I addressed the point you made, and stated why I think it's implausible. But not impossible. They're not old enough to be the 'older brother' who bought alcohol, so it has to be somebody else. Unless DPC's pre-college youths are somehow living in pre-1990 USA where an 18 year old could buy liquor.

 

[Mormont]

It's been a long time but what's with that multiple protagonist tag? Wasn't there before correct!
Mormont , linkinn what's this? You guys have any idea?

It's just playing as the MC and Zoey that's why it has that tag.

 

[AchedCroissant]

You free to have your opinion, but none of these seem remotely entertaining. Half of the game are Incest, you already lost me there , and the comparison to DPC. Incest itself already shit.. so no Thank you you didn't convince me at all. .

as for PhillyGames, I played both of his game, one of them is incest , so yeah. and no he is not only behind DPC by just the music. The renders are more or less in the same level, it's really just different girls. But the animation is nothing compared to DPC, but thats not a hars critism, becasue obviously DPC has better equipment.
and the writing, well, I stopped playing, so he was not able to hold me. I only like Kate , he has this tendencies, that not every girl is in every episode, so basically you can wait for half a year, for a scene with Kate.

so I refuse to believe you. sorry, Peace

It makes sense that he likes incest and Isabella

Even in chapter 8 DPC added that mommy joke

 

[NebulousShooter]

Just a reminder. This is the most cruel scene in the whole game.

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Those renders broke my fucking heart

Of all my playthroughs I've only done it once, on my blind Sage run, when the episode released. All others I just skip pursuing Bella, or pick Cathy, so she breaks up with Fuckface.

 

[Ilhares]

Then you should read it again. In this theory JB - John (boyfriend of Elena) - John B = John Bailey is the big brother of Derek and Maya Victoria Bailey. So then there would be a big brother.

Man, that is weird. I read it 3 times and my brain just didn't want to latch onto it, thanks for the repeat. I need some sleep.

But I still don't think it's likely, there's no way Derek wouldn't have acknowledged a sibling. Considering how he treats you if you get close to Maya, imagine what he'd say if he thought you were doing devil's threesome on Elena.

 

[Antonie van Leeuwenhoek]

It's just playing as the MC and Zoey that's why it has that tag.

Zoey? How much significant is her part regarding the choices

 

[nyrek]

Then you should read it again. In this theory JB - John (boyfriend of Elena) - John B = John Bailey is the big brother of Derek and Maya Victoria Bailey. So then there would be a big brother.

The MC says to Jacob after he Cum-Petition that John and Derek are very similar and Jacob replied so he can understand why the MC thinks that.

come on, DPC already pulled that shit with sage and jade
if john boy happens to be derek's brother but noone even mentioned that in 2-3 months they're with the DIKs, I'm fucking out