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I guess it depends on how you see her if you wish to pursue her or not? But regarding her choices, I don't think they will have much impact again it will be all down to the players choice (MC)
I have few questions
Reading few previous comments i got the idea that she was/is ex
Is she still the mc?
Are choices only about pursuing male mc? (hypocrite of me i know)
Was it really necessary to slap the tag of female protagonist when it's not that significant?
 

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Furthermore, don't make a name for yourself by ignoring the entire context of my original post and just referring to a typo. I think you can do better.:D(y)
To be fair to Ilhares, if he ignored the entire context of your original post, the name he would be making for himself would be "everyone". :p

I imagine the majority of your and my posts probably only get read by 5% or less of the dudes/dudettes here. :ROFLMAO:

I have few questions
Reading few previous comments i got the idea that she was/is ex
Is she still the mc?
Are choices only about pursuing male mc? (hypocrite of me i know)
Was it really necessary to slap the tag of female protagonist when it's not that significant?
The Interlude, as an interlude by nature, was a departure from the main game. But in reality it was just a character backstory (like the ones we've seen for Maya & Josy, Jill, Bella, the DIKs etc.). The only difference was we influenced some of Zoey's decisions.

I'd say that's it, we won't be controlling Zoey from now on.

On that note, I think "Female Protagonist" should not be in the tags for the game, because you make probably about 10 decisions for her in about 60 minutes of gameplay vs the hundreds of decisions and 10s of hours spend as the main dude. It's misleading and possibly detrimental to the game. Still, not many people are gonna give a fuck.
 
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I have few questions
Reading few previous comments i got the idea that she was/is ex
Is she still the mc?
Are choices only about pursuing male mc? (hypocrite of me i know)
Was it really necessary to slap the tag of female protagonist when it's not that significant?
No, they weren't actually a couple they were more fuck buddies although I do think there were some feelings between the both of them.
She was just MC as a one-off for the Interlude it will be back to the normal MC in Season 3
Well yeah, she is only interested in the MC so it will be only him that she goes for.
As for the tag, I guess so you got to give the audience a bit of a heads up about what is involved. Although you could skip the Interlude and then that tag wouldn't matter.
 

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Jill ! What the fuck?! :ROFLMAO: View attachment 1773939

From a VN Stay True, Stay You. Haven't played it. Just looked at the promo images.

https://f95zone.to/threads/stay-true-stay-you-v0-3-0-danson.47493/
The game would really benefit from more lesbian stuff, other stuff too. But then people rush in again who want everything for themselves. No matter, the game is also without hot as fuck. It doesn't have so many fans without good reason. Quality prevails (y)

This reminds me of my favorite special renders: the lesbian sex between Maja and Quinn. It's a shame that the scene doesn't really exist in the game. Or maybe it does (in the background :sneaky:). After all, she passed the initiation ritual for the HOTs. And there were many sex tasks. There must have been a lot that we know nothing about. :p
 

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If you look at those who skip the interlude at least they will wait 9 months if chapter 9 comes out in August hopefully but they will have to wait 9 months to press control in the interlude

Oh my god and let's just see how this thread will be when those users will be saying why their saves don't appear in the game

A nightmare is coming
 

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If you look at those who skip the interlude at least they will wait 9 months if chapter 9 comes out in August hopefully but they will have to wait 9 months to press control in the interlude

Oh my god and let's just see how this thread will be when those users will be saying why their saves don't appear in the game

A nightmare is coming
The good thing is, when they download episode 9 it will be packaged with the Interlude since the Interlude is the first "episode" of season 3.

It will be part of the download now for episodes 9 through to 12. That means the "Import" button will always be there.

It's not like they will have to be redirected to download the Interlude separately.

So we'll just have a repeat of people asking for the export from Season 1 & 2 again and all the associated confusion that we've already seen, the same as we had for the Interlude, but possible with less hate. :ROFLMAO:
 

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No, they weren't actually a couple they were more fuck buddies although I do think there were some feelings between the both of them.
She was just MC as a one-off for the Interlude it will be back to the normal MC in Season 3
Well yeah, she is only interested in the MC so it will be only him that she goes for.
As for the tag, I guess so you got to give the audience a bit of a heads up about what is involved. Although you could skip the Interlude and then that tag wouldn't matter.
Appreciated bud.
Well, Bella is what I'm here for and it'll be good to see her again around next week. It's been months.
 

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The good thing is, when they download episode 9 it will be packaged with the Interlude since the Interlude is the first "episode" of season 3.

It will be part of the download now for episodes 9 through to 12. That means the "Import" button will always be there.

It's not like they will have to be redirected to download the Interlude separately.

So we'll just have a repeat of people asking for the export from Season 1 & 2 again and all the associated confusion that we've already seen, the same as we had for the Interlude, but possible with less hate. :ROFLMAO:
That some still believe that Zoey is the MC's ex is incredible :ROFLMAO:

I will ignore everything that happens on those days, I will not help anyone
 
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The Interlude, as an interlude by nature, was a departure from the main game. But in reality it was just a character backstory (like the ones we've seen for Maya & Josy, Jill, Bella, the DIKs etc.). The only difference was we influenced some of Zoey's decisions.

I'd say that's it, we won't be controlling Zoey from now on.

On that note, I think "Female Protagonist" should not be in the tags for the game, because you make probably about 10 decisions for her in about 60 minutes of gameplay vs the hundreds of decisions and 10s of hours spend as the main dude. It's misleading and possibly detrimental to the game. Still, not many people are gonna give a fuck.
Thanks for the info,
No hate for female prot. but i don't like to play God by opting for the decisions on behalf of a character whom I don't majorly relate with. Feels forced.
 

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All stories in this "Category" are implausible to impossible, so taking that critique off the table and looking at just stories, well and sometimes graphics and music where warranted.

Drifty- Leap of Faith (Compares wonderfully all around, but the story is my favorite probably. Yes some seems implausible but we took that off the table as a critique. Music and renders, Amazing! Additional Plus the story was inspired in large part by the suicide of his daughter which makes it the most gripping and gut wrenching story period. I have cried my eyes out every time I play through.)
LikesBlondes/Ptolemy-Rebirth (Story only. Graphically and musically, not on the same page. Renders are great, but no animations. Many people complain about lack of sex, but it is a vampire story, not a porn novel)
Notty-Heavy Five (Scifi on an entirely different level!! Music no. Everything else is pretty awesome)
STWAdev- Both The Author and the Unbroken (Both stories are amazing. Set in the same world/setting, and connected. Music no. The rest. Definitely.)
Motzkey- Timestamps-both stories (Time travel, hot milfs, fetishes, BACON! nuff said)
Cheeky Gimp- Where the Heart Is (Pretty amazing, but music improvements would be appreciated)
Ocean- Where it All Began (Revision- Chapter 1 models are so fucking amazing now, and beats out DPC. The original I did not think so. Leia is my new favorite over Bella and everyone who has seen me post here knows that Bella was my favorite from any game... She is now second. Story is being re-written and I am referencing the rework writing over the original thus far, but of course have to take the original into account. Music... Like almost all the other choices music would make this perfect)
PhillyGames- City of Broken Dreamers ( only thing that does not exceed DPC is the music. Depraved Awakenings also exceeds Acting Lessons by far)
StudioFOW- Subverse..... I mean..... shit.... it is amazing.
Stone Fox- Chasing Sunsets (Good story, written well so far. The renders and such, good, but not DPC quality.. music needs improving)
LewdLab- Dreams of Desire (Definitive Edition)
R.J. Rhodes- Come Home (except for music, this is pretty fucking amazing- in fairness she did just add music, but compared to BaDIK it sucks!)
Naughty Road- Light of My Life (sad but hilarious incest adventures... Models are unique, which puts some folks off, but it is amazing. Music needs help)

You asked for some good writing. Try the above out. Comparing the quality of writing, I think all of the above are better than what DPC is probably capable of on his best day. His renders and animations, as well as music is really only equaled by Leap of Faith, and render wise, Where it All Began has better renders on the revision.

Subverse was unfair I admit, but it is definitely a fun add, and the story is better. It is hilarious, and yes it is a different type of game all together. The trailer for the game all by itself is enough to show you the quality of the humor.

Not including you in this, but boy does this topic trigger the snowflakes!!

Peace
The only devs from the ones that you mentioned that are better than DPC are Drifty, Notty and Stone Fox Studios. Another better writer than DPC is NLT. All other devs that you mentioned are below DPC's abilities as writers, with the exception of Oceanlab, who is on an equal level as him, but he fancies himself more as a writer than a game dev so much, that he released 6 updates in 4 years and now is spending his time reworking the game.

I'm not a DPC fan and I consider him an average writer, but you are talking as if DPC is such a shitty writer that he is on Slonique (literally the same game every time with different models), Gumdrop (ecstasy fuelled writing VN, which makes no sense at all) or Tremmi (VN with short updates that goes on way too long and you lose the plot) levels of a writer.
 

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All stories in this "Category" are implausible to impossible, so taking that critique off the table and looking at just stories, well and sometimes graphics and music where warranted.

Drifty- Leap of Faith (Compares wonderfully all around, but the story is my favorite probably. Yes some seems implausible but we took that off the table as a critique. Music and renders, Amazing! Additional Plus the story was inspired in large part by the suicide of his daughter which makes it the most gripping and gut wrenching story period. I have cried my eyes out every time I play through.)
LikesBlondes/Ptolemy-Rebirth (Story only. Graphically and musically, not on the same page. Renders are great, but no animations. Many people complain about lack of sex, but it is a vampire story, not a porn novel)
Notty-Heavy Five (Scifi on an entirely different level!! Music no. Everything else is pretty awesome)
STWAdev- Both The Author and the Unbroken (Both stories are amazing. Set in the same world/setting, and connected. Music no. The rest. Definitely.)
Motzkey- Timestamps-both stories (Time travel, hot milfs, fetishes, BACON! nuff said)
Cheeky Gimp- Where the Heart Is (Pretty amazing, but music improvements would be appreciated)
Ocean- Where it All Began (Revision- Chapter 1 models are so fucking amazing now, and beats out DPC. The original I did not think so. Leia is my new favorite over Bella and everyone who has seen me post here knows that Bella was my favorite from any game... She is now second. Story is being re-written and I am referencing the rework writing over the original thus far, but of course have to take the original into account. Music... Like almost all the other choices music would make this perfect)
PhillyGames- City of Broken Dreamers ( only thing that does not exceed DPC is the music. Depraved Awakenings also exceeds Acting Lessons by far)
StudioFOW- Subverse..... I mean..... shit.... it is amazing.
Stone Fox- Chasing Sunsets (Good story, written well so far. The renders and such, good, but not DPC quality.. music needs improving)
LewdLab- Dreams of Desire (Definitive Edition)
R.J. Rhodes- Come Home (except for music, this is pretty fucking amazing- in fairness she did just add music, but compared to BaDIK it sucks!)
Naughty Road- Light of My Life (sad but hilarious incest adventures... Models are unique, which puts some folks off, but it is amazing. Music needs help)

You asked for some good writing. Try the above out. Comparing the quality of writing, I think all of the above are better than what DPC is probably capable of on his best day. His renders and animations, as well as music is really only equaled by Leap of Faith, and render wise, Where it All Began has better renders on the revision.

Subverse was unfair I admit, but it is definitely a fun add, and the story is better. It is hilarious, and yes it is a different type of game all together. The trailer for the game all by itself is enough to show you the quality of the humor.

Not including you in this, but boy does this topic trigger the snowflakes!!

Peace
No way someone included oceanlab.
Except for pretty renders that guy messes up everything, and don't even get me started with how far from punctual that guy is.
 
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The only devs from the ones that you mentioned that are better than DPC are Drifty, Notty and Stone Fox Studios. Another better writer than DPC is NLT. All other devs that you mentioned are below DPC's abilities as writers, with the exception of Oceanlab, who is on an equal level as him, but he fancies himself more as a writer than a game dev so much, that he released 6 updates in 4 years and now is spending his time reworking the game.

I'm not a DPC fan and I consider him an average writer, but you are talking as if DPC is such a shitty writer that he is on Slonique (literally the same game every time with different models), Gumdrop (ecstasy fuelled writing VN, which makes no sense at all) or Tremmi (VN with short updates that goes on way too long and you lose the plot) levels of a writer.
NLT? Do you mean NLT media, the creator of TON? I wouldn't consider him a good writer. The stories usually slow down towards the last 30 % of all his games. And the end of TON wasn't that great either. They make super good renders, super good animations, generate good LI and a great game atmosphere, no question about it. But I would rather see the storytelling as the biggest weakness, there.

I played through TON once and had enough of it. I could play BaDik over and over again, once across all routes. So, DPCs writing is really worlds better. My opinion.
 
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Since y’all talking about writing, I have to get rid of a theory about the Sage & Quinn lewd scene. :coffee: I’m pretty sure DPC made allegorical references to the union of Eros and Thanatos. Indeed, Freud proposed that humans are driven by two conflicting central desires : life drive and death drive. :coffee:

The life drive deals with basic survival, pleasure, and reproduction. Eros (the life drive/instinct, libido) is concerned with the preservation of life, it thus appears as basic needs for health, safety and sustenance and through sexual drives. It seeks both to preserve life and to create life. Eros is associated with positive emotions of love, and hence pro-social behavior, cooperation, collaboration and other behaviors that support harmonious societies.

On the other hand, Thanatos (the death drive/instinct) is associated with negative emotions such as fear, hate and anger, which lead to anti-social acts from bullying to murder (perhaps as projection of the death drive). Freud believed that people typically channel this death drive outward, which manifests as aggression and destructive acts toward others and themselves. He theorized that humans are driven toward death and destruction, famously declaring that "the aim of all life is death.".

In other words, Quinn is Thanatos, the embodiment of death, the dead impulse.

Firstly she’s constantly surrounded by death and skull items :

Death item 1.jpg Death item 2.jpg Death item 3.jpg

Secondly, her most proeminent color is black, color of mourning, death, and sadness. Black often represents the emotions and actions of rebellion in teenagers and youth.

Black 1.jpg Black 3.jpg Black 4.jpg Black 5.jpg Black 7.jpg Black 8.jpg

It’s even more apparent when she met her dealer. She walked amongst the ghosts, the soon to be dead junkie, like a black hooded figure. Death follows her like a shadow.

Dead walking 1.jpg Dead walking 3.jpg Dead walking 4.jpg

Then what about her animal motifs ?

Fly : Throughout the Eastern world, flies are frequently seen as harbingers of death, bearers of pestilence. Fly are also associated with corpses because flies rapidly discover a body and their development times are predictable under particular environmental conditions, the time of death can be calculated by counting back the days from the state of development of flies living on the corpse.

Animal motif 1.jpg

Rats : Associated with plague. Dreaming of rats often symbolizes the ugly or unwanted emotions that a person harbors beneath the surface. Feelings like jealousy, guilt, and hate may be concealed by the waking mind but revealed to us in dreams. Like Roxx mentioned “no matter how high you climb, you can’t get rid of the rats, they always find their way”. In others words, you can’t escape death and negative feelings.

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Black widow : Black spider well known for devorating their mates. Which is a perfect representation of her interaction with her preys. She’s a predatory, she’s intrusive and invades personal space, pulling manipulative strings, grabbing and trapping her preys with her claws.

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Moreover, death instinct is turned outward and expressed as aggression toward the others. Even her interactions with the MC are manly an interplay of sex & violence.

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The death drive controls aggression, risky behaviors, and death. You can say that our death instinct takes the 'born to die' approach, often making humans engage in activities that bring them closer to death. Drugs, risky behaviour, shaddy activities, illegality. The death drive explains why people are drawn to repeat painful or traumatic events.

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On the roof, she claimed to smoke because she enjoys the calm and the silence. Which is the whole point. The death drives is define by the unconscious and inherent will to die. Returning to a state of calm or ultimately a state of no-existence. All her most intimate and meaningful moments with the Mc are nothing but calm and silent scenes. Silence, be high, sleep. Like Allan Poe used to say : Sleep: Those little slices of death. In a metaphorical way, sleeping is a form a death. In other words her and the Mc are slowly finding comfort by being together in death.

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Sage is Eros, the life impulse, the libido, the sex drive.

Her item is the leaf. Leaves hold symbolism in many cultures, but in general, they symbolize fertility and growth. The green leaves of spring and summer depict hope, renewal and revival. Blazing yellow, orange and red leaves of fall represent the change of season. She’s often associated with green color and nature.

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Her animal motifs ? Cats and felines. As for symbolism, cats are symbolic of rebirth and resurrection, per their nine lives. Cats are also symbols of mystery and magic, as aforementioned, but also unpredictability and even healing.

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More than any love interest, Sage is driven by lust. Savage and passionate lust. The life drive is defined by sexually motivated behaviours not only include those with blatant erotic content but also every action aimed at receiving pleasure. Freud calls this motivational energy “libido”. The life drive exerts itself through sexual drives, motivating people to create and nurture new life.

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Like previously said, behaviors commonly associated with life instincts include love, cooperation, and other prosocial actions. These behaviors support both individual well-being and the harmonious existence of a cooperative and healthy society. And that’s what Sage is all about : cooperation, mutual support and prosocial actions.

  • The first day, they met She encouraged the MC to join a frat.
  • She offered him a deal with mutual benefit.
  • She danced with him and tried to bond with him.
  • She engaged in many activities to reaffirm their bond ( guitar, sparring ).
  • She offered him to join the movie night.
  • She tried to cheer him up.
  • She advised him about the way the DIKs should be working together as a real team.
  • She offered her friendship many times.
  • She bonded with Josy.
  • She offered to help Maya.
  • She offered to organize the Halloween Party with the Dik & the Hots. Encouraging the MC to take the lead.
  • She gave the MC advises about his study or the different profiles during the examen session.
  • She acted like Quinn mentor and tried to erase all potential tension.
In other words, Sage is defined by her will to maintain the social bond, to force the different parts to act like one. The social preservation. Her raw passion and her kink for risky sex is nothing but the will to feel more alive.

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he threesome is way more than a sex scene. It’s a representation of the player’s psyche. Just like the MC, the player has to deal with his inner inclination towards the life & death drive. Through the interaction of Eros (Sage) and Thanatos (Quinn), we (players) ourselves become a higher unity, where Eros ( Sage) helps us handling our inherent aggressions, while Thanatos ( Quinn) helps us handling the libidinal energy that permanently aspires to overstep all boundaries. :coffee:

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The game would really benefit from more lesbian stuff, other stuff too. But then people rush in again who want everything for themselves. No matter, the game is also without hot as fuck. It doesn't have so many fans without good reason. Quality prevails (y)

This reminds me of my favorite special renders: the lesbian sex between Maja and Quinn. It's a shame that the scene doesn't really exist in the game. Or maybe it does (in the background :sneaky:). After all, she passed the initiation ritual for the HOTs. And there were many sex tasks. There must have been a lot that we know nothing about. :p
The list also said that Maya made out with a girl. There are three ways Maya could have done this.

For the EP5 possibility, there is no screenshot in the sense. When the MC goes to Maya, she is more sexually experienced than before. She gives the MC a handjob, a blowjob, and even fucks him. Then later in the hangout we see the list and making out with a girl is already crossed out, even though Maya doesn't have sex with Josy for the first time until EP6. I assume Maya's decision leads to Maya having sex with Quinn (Special Renders) in EP3 and there is video of it. This then explains why Josy is so startled when the two show Arieth the videos.

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When the MC goes with Josy, none of this happens because the MC doesn't have sex with Maya. This is where the screenshots from EP3 and EP4 come into play. These have been seen by many HOT's and cannot be denied by Quinn. There is no need for proof photos of Maya either. The reason Josy is scared is because of the sex of Maya and the MC from EP3, which Maya also videotaped.

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The list also said that Maya made out with a girl. There are three ways Maya could have done this.

For the EP5 possibility, there is no screenshot in the sense. When the MC goes to Maya, she is more sexually experienced than before. She gives the MC a handjob, a blowjob, and even fucks him. Then later in the hangout we see the list and making out with a girl is already crossed out, even though Maya doesn't have sex with Josy for the first time until EP6. I assume Maya's decision leads to Maya having sex with Quinn (Special Renders) in EP3 and there is video of it. This then explains why Josy is so startled when the two show Arieth the videos.

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When the MC goes with Josy, none of this happens because the MC doesn't have sex with Maya. This is where the screenshots from EP3 and EP4 come into play. These have been seen by many HOT's and cannot be denied by Quinn. There is no need for proof photos of Maya either. The reason Josy is scared is because of the sex of Maya and the MC from EP3, which Maya also videotaped.

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Fine. I haven't played the Maja route yet. It's also so hard to choose. Simply because all girls are hot. :love::p

I'm also perfectly aware that pretty much everyone in the background is sexually active in some way. It would have done the game quite well if we had seen something of it, for example if we decided against a LI. This way she wouldn't be out of the running and we would have even more motivation to choose it the next time we play the game. That would have spiced up the already great game again.

I would have enjoyed that. But I know who would have stormed against it. But the fan community for such content is also growing. Well, sooner or later we will see such games too. I already follow some titles with great interest :sneaky:
 
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Since y’all talking about writing, I have to get rid of a theory about the Sage & Quinn lewd scene. :coffee: I’m pretty sure DPC made allegorical references to the union of Eros and Thanatos. Indeed, Freud proposed that humans are driven by two conflicting central desires : life drive and death drive. :coffee:

The life drive deals with basic survival, pleasure, and reproduction. Eros (the life drive/instinct, libido) is concerned with the preservation of life, it thus appears as basic needs for health, safety and sustenance and through sexual drives. It seeks both to preserve life and to create life. Eros is associated with positive emotions of love, and hence pro-social behavior, cooperation, collaboration and other behaviors that support harmonious societies.

On the other hand, Thanatos (the death drive/instinct) is associated with negative emotions such as fear, hate and anger, which lead to anti-social acts from bullying to murder (perhaps as projection of the death drive). Freud believed that people typically channel this death drive outward, which manifests as aggression and destructive acts toward others and themselves. He theorized that humans are driven toward death and destruction, famously declaring that "the aim of all life is death.".

In other words, Quinn is Thanatos, the embodiment of death, the dead impulse.

Firstly she’s constantly surrounded by death and skull items :

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Secondly, her most proeminent color is black, color of mourning, death, and sadness. Black often represents the emotions and actions of rebellion in teenagers and youth.

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It’s even more apparent when she met her dealer. She walked amongst the ghosts, the soon to be dead junkie, like a black hooded figure. Death follows her like a shadow.

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Then what about her animal motifs ?

Fly : Throughout the Eastern world, flies are frequently seen as harbingers of death, bearers of pestilence. Fly are also associated with corpses because flies rapidly discover a body and their development times are predictable under particular environmental conditions, the time of death can be calculated by counting back the days from the state of development of flies living on the corpse.

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Rats : Associated with plague. Dreaming of rats often symbolizes the ugly or unwanted emotions that a person harbors beneath the surface. Feelings like jealousy, guilt, and hate may be concealed by the waking mind but revealed to us in dreams. Like Roxx mentioned “no matter how high you climb, you can’t get rid of the rats, they always find their way”. In others words, you can’t escape death and negative feelings.

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Black widow : Black spider well known for devorating their mates. Which is a perfect representation of her interaction with her preys. She’s a predatory, she’s intrusive and invades personal space, pulling manipulative strings, grabbing and trapping her preys with her claws.

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Moreover, death instinct is turned outward and expressed as aggression toward the others. Even her interactions with the MC are manly an interplay of sex & violence.

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The death drive controls aggression, risky behaviors, and death. You can say that our death instinct takes the 'born to die' approach, often making humans engage in activities that bring them closer to death. Drugs, risky behaviour, shaddy activities, illegality. The death drive explains why people are drawn to repeat painful or traumatic events.

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On the roof, she claimed to smoke because she enjoys the calm and the silence. Which is the whole point. The death drives is define by the unconscious and inherent will to die. Returning to a state of calm or ultimately a state of no-existence. All her most intimate and meaningful moments with the Mc are nothing but calm and silent scenes. Silence, be high, sleep. Like Allan Poe used to say : Sleep: Those little slices of death. In a metaphorical way, sleeping is a form a death. In other words her and the Mc are slowly finding comfort by being together in death.

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Sage is Eros, the life impulse, the libido, the sex drive.

Her item is the leaf. Leaves hold symbolism in many cultures, but in general, they symbolize fertility and growth. The green leaves of spring and summer depict hope, renewal and revival. Blazing yellow, orange and red leaves of fall represent the change of season. She’s often associated with green color and nature.

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Her animal motifs ? Cats and felines. As for symbolism, cats are symbolic of rebirth and resurrection, per their nine lives. Cats are also symbols of mystery and magic, as aforementioned, but also unpredictability and even healing.

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More than any love interest, Sage is driven by lust. Savage and passionate lust. The life drive is defined by sexually motivated behaviours not only include those with blatant erotic content but also every action aimed at receiving pleasure. Freud calls this motivational energy “libido”. The life drive exerts itself through sexual drives, motivating people to create and nurture new life.

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Like previously said, behaviors commonly associated with life instincts include love, cooperation, and other prosocial actions. These behaviors support both individual well-being and the harmonious existence of a cooperative and healthy society. And that’s what Sage is all about : cooperation, mutual support and prosocial actions.

  • The first day, they met She encouraged the MC to join a frat.
  • She offered him a deal with mutual benefit.
  • She danced with him and tried to bond with him.
  • She engaged in many activities to reaffirm their bond ( guitar, sparring ).
  • She offered him to join the movie night.
  • She tried to cheer him up.
  • She advised him about the way the DIKs should be working together as a real team.
  • She offered her friendship many times.
  • She bonded with Josy.
  • She offered to help Maya.
  • She offered to organize the Halloween Party with the Dik & the Hots. Encouraging the MC to take the lead.
  • She gave the MC advises about his study or the different profiles during the examen session.
  • She acted like Quinn mentor and tried to erase all potential tension.
In other words, Sage is defined by her will to maintain the social bond, to force the different parts to act like one. The social preservation. Her raw passion and her kink for risky sex is nothing but the will to feel more alive.

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he threesome is way more than a sex scene. It’s a representation of the player’s psyche. Just like the MC, the player has to deal with his inner inclination towards the life & death drive. Through the interaction of Eros (Sage) and Thanatos (Quinn), we (players) ourselves become a higher unity, where Eros ( Sage) helps us handling our inherent aggressions, while Thanatos ( Quinn) helps us handling the libidinal energy that permanently aspires to overstep all boundaries. :coffee:

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The list also said that Maya made out with a girl. There are three ways Maya could have done this.

For the EP5 possibility, there is no screenshot in the sense. When the MC goes to Maya, she is more sexually experienced than before. She gives the MC a handjob, a blowjob, and even fucks him. Then later in the hangout we see the list and making out with a girl is already crossed out, even though Maya doesn't have sex with Josy for the first time until EP6. I assume Maya's decision leads to Maya having sex with Quinn (Special Renders) in EP3 and there is video of it. This then explains why Josy is so startled when the two show Arieth the videos.

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When the MC goes with Josy, none of this happens because the MC doesn't have sex with Maya. This is where the screenshots from EP3 and EP4 come into play. These have been seen by many HOT's and cannot be denied by Quinn. There is no need for proof photos of Maya either. The reason Josy is scared is because of the sex of Maya and the MC from EP3, which Maya also videotaped.

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I hope Maya kisses her fourth girl soon
 
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