Ilhares

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All the main girls can be got on CHICK or neutral, but the throuple, Bella and Jill do prefer CHICK. Sage can also be got on DIK affinity.

Quinn has to be on DIK. The other side girls are also easier to get as a DIK.
Bella and Sage are also attainable as a DIK. You don't 69 Bella because for some reason the game treats it like that's a CHICK move (which I find absurd, what kind of idiot doesn't fancy a bit of muff diving?), but I believe pretty much everything else is open.
 

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yeah i installed a cheat mod a few updates ago, so im litterally not allowed to cheat the game is that it?
Better not to, as I said DPC hide the traps around the game to detect modded saves and prevent you from playing further.
You can use mods to see the right choices for your chosen path but do not modify any stats or your saves will be considered corrupted.
 

felicemastronzo

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Bella and Sage are also attainable as a DIK. You don't 69 Bella because for some reason the game treats it like that's a CHICK move (which I find absurd, what kind of idiot doesn't fancy a bit of muff diving?), but I believe pretty much everything else is open.
the reason is actually the opposite

it's not the 69 that's chick (or the hugging as it is with Maya). but that these poor girls don't trust a MC DIK enough for this kind of intimacy, everything else is fine (from rimjob to bukkake), but that's too intimate

affinity is really a wonderful mechanismo_O
 

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the reason is actually the opposite

it's not the 69 that's chick (or the hugging as it is with Maya). but that these poor girls don't trust a MC DIK enough for this kind of intimacy, everything else is fine (from rimjob to bukkake), but that's too intimate

affinity is really a wonderful mechanismo_O
Affinity and score system is unnecessarily complicated IMO, it's something he should work on the next game. For example I like the Trust score that's in CS, it's simple and it works. Or the system in LoF, it's something that also works well. Besides the only routes you can't get as a DIK I think are Maya&Josy and Jill.
 
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felicemastronzo

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Affinity and score system is unnecessarily complicated IMO, it's something he should work on the next game. For example I like the Trust score that's in CS, it's simple and it works. Or the system in LoF, it's something that also works well. Besides the only routes you can't get as a DIK I think are Maya&Josy and Jill.
its function is to create a pretext for replaying BADIK (not for individual scenes), but in a fairly arbitrary manner

I think the best mechanism is always that of 'variables' i.e. individual choices (including the picnic shit), if you have done a certain thing you can proceed, otherwise you're out

because even the RPs, which BADIK has but pretty much forgot about, are stupid by putting any action done at any time on the same level
 

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its function is to create a pretext for replaying BADIK (not for individual scenes), but in a fairly arbitrary manner

I think the best mechanism is always that of 'variables' i.e. individual choices (including the picnic shit), if you have done a certain thing you can proceed, otherwise you're out

because even the RPs, which BADIK has but pretty much forgot about, are stupid by putting any action done at any time on the same level
I think that the devs use the system because variables make developing more difficult, especially if there are a lot of episodes and the number of variables only grows with each episode. For example you don't want a scene in like episode 18 to be related to something you did in episode 6 and miss out on the content.
 

felicemastronzo

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I think that the devs use the system because variables make developing more difficult, especially if there are a lot of episodes and the number of variables only grows with each episode. For example you don't want a scene in like episode 18 to be related to something you did in episode 6 and miss out on the content.
you don't actually have to carry over all the variables. if you had to have done A in order to be able to do B, at that point you only have to carry over B, A has completed its task and you can still take it for granted if there is B
 

Lostanddamned

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you don't actually have to carry over all the variables. if you had to have done A in order to be able to do B, at that point you only have to carry over B, A has completed its task and you can still take it for granted if there is B
Makes sense, but if C and C1 use both B and A, you have to do it. For it not to be confusing let's say:

A is helped Quinn.
B is for the Maya&Josy threesome.
C is Quinn Others route
C1 is for Maya&Josy choice.

There's no way for you to leave B behind, because you need B for M&J.
 

felicemastronzo

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Makes sense, but if C and C1 use both B and A, you have to do it. For it not to be confusing let's say:

A is helped Quinn.
B is for the Maya&Josy threesome.
C is Quinn Others route
C1 is for Maya&Josy choice.

There's no way for you to leave B behind, because you need B for M&J.
I did not understand the example...

in reality A does not happen if you can do after B

but even if they can happen A is only bound to C and B is only bound to C1
 

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I did not understand the example...

in reality A does not happen if you can do after B

but even if they can happen A is only bound to C and B is only bound to C1
Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't M&J route require for you to not be a DIK and having done the threesome with them? And C1 (Quinn) requires you to be a DIK, to not help M&J and to have helped her. So practically C and C1 can't be activated if you did both A and B, so you have to transfer them one way or another.
 

felicemastronzo

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Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't M&J route require for you to not be a DIK and having done the threesome with them? And C1 (Quinn) requires you to be a DIK, to not help M&J and to have helped her. So practically C and C1 can't be activated if you did both A and B, so you have to transfer them one way or another.
if at the end of chapter four you are not DIK and you have done something sexual with at least one of them (no threesome yet) you can be in the trouple, once you are in the trouple you access both the threesomes and the final decision with M+J

but if you are in the trouple you cannot help Quinn, even if you were DIK at that moment (and being two chapters later you could be)

so in the end you either help Quinn or you are in the trouple, both are not possible
 

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if at the end of chapter four you are not DIK and you have done something sexual with at least one of them (no threesome yet) you can be in the trouple, once you are in the trouple you access both the threesomes and the final decision with M+J

but if you are in the trouple you cannot help Quinn, even if you were DIK at that moment (and being two chapters later you could be)

so in the end you either help Quinn or you are in the trouple, both are not possible
Yeah, I get that. My thought was - you can't leave variables A and B behind and continue with C and C1 for the future. So instead of being overwhelmed by variables and spend an absurd amount of time checking and rechecking them on all options, the system is better for a bigger game.
 

felicemastronzo

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Yeah, I get that. My thought was - you can't leave variables A and B behind and continue with C and C1 for the future. So instead of being overwhelmed by variables and spend an absurd amount of time checking and rechecking them on all options, the system is better for a bigger game.
of course, not all variables are 'breakable', but most are

if you are in Bella's path that she came to help you fix up the room, you don't need to mark it down

if you're in a relationship with Jade you accepted her advances and went on a date with her, you don't need to mark it down


but in fact it's already like that in the game
 

Lostanddamned

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of course, not all variables are 'breakable', but most are

if you are in Bella's path that she came to help you fix up the room, you don't need to mark it down

if you're in a relationship with Jade you accepted her advances and went on a date with her, you don't need to mark it down


but in fact it's already like that in the game
You can refuse Bella's help though, which locks out the Bella route.

Now Jade's I don't remember much, I remember it was rather straightforward.
 
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