VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Geralt From Rivia]

These dudes don't even have +2k followers on various social media after +8 years of existence, completely unprofessional with reply 4 years later and don't even know what licences they used. DPC can afford buying cash a commercial licence, they still dumb about it.

I'm speechless.

LMAO...they really ignored the use of their songs and the appeal of the DPC for four years. Now they decided to remember about this when DPC and a game became mega-popular. Bitchy move.
The DPC asked not to bully them... but the Internet cannot be stopped if it wants to do something.

 

[Jehuty206]

LMAO...they really ignored the use of their songs and the appeal of the DPC for four years. Now they decided to remember about this when DPC and a game became mega-popular. Bitchy move.
The DPC asked not to bully them... but the Internet cannot be stopped if it wants to do something.
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If they did that , this band do not deserve our "wrath".... Trust me.

 

[n0cn1l]

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I rarely have to post bad news, but today I must, so let's get it out of the way.

I've been asked to remove all songs from The Friday Prophets from the game.

When I downloaded their songs from Soundcloud, they were uploaded with the CC BY-SA 3.0 license, making them free to use commercially, but this usage wasn't what they intended.

I reached out to them four years ago about using their songs, and I got my reply this week asking me not to use their music and to remove anything I had added since.

It's sad for all of us, for me, the game, and fans, since the songs have grown to become iconic during that time. No replacement to Punk Rock Flu will give the same nostalgic feeling when you start the game or a new episode, at least not for many more future episodes and years to come.

I will respect their copyright and remove all their songs from Seasons 1/2, and 3.

Please, I ask you not to direct any negativity toward them because of this decision.

I truly believed I used their songs in good faith because of the licenses, and it's unfortunate for everyone that it came to this.

I tried my best to replace the songs with similar tunes to preserve the college feeling of the game. We'll see what happens in the future regarding the title song.

Patch v0.8.3 is live
I had to work with preparing new builds for Steam/GOG/Patreon this week, which isn't all that bad since it gave me the chance to include a bunch of other bug fixes alongside this.

This impacted the game development by a few days, but now I don't have to worry about patching Season 1/2 when it's time to release episode 9.

All work with the patches is now done, and I can go back to focusing on episode 9 again.

My team of testers and Discord staff have been awesome in helping out with verifying the bugs and builds, and they saved me a tremendous amount of time by helping out.

The new patches are live on Steam, GOG, and Patreon now.

If you want the latest bug fixes for the Patreon version, version 0.8.3 is available

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.

You can patch your current Patreon v0.8.0/v0.8.1/v0.8.2 version if you'd like to receive all bug fixes. It is a smaller 415 MB patch for episodes 1-8.

If you can't patch your game, the full download (v0.8.3) is also available

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There's no new content in v0.8.3, and I didn't post the patch as a big release post as I don't want to confuse anyone into thinking that episode 9 is being released with this patch.

You can find the changelog in the release posts.

Similar changes for Season 3 (Interlude) will come together with the upcoming v0.9.0 release, including episode 9.

Development news
Onto the development news.

Aside from work mentioned above with the patches, I started the week working on static renders.

I also wrote five more scenes for the episode, one per main girl.

I've started planning and working on the new main menu art for Season 3. I want the main menu to look as good as possible for the duration of Season 3. I have made nine new art pieces for the main menu and have 10-15 more to make. Next week's status update will show you a preview of the main menu.

I will continue my work next week to complete this task and then continue with static renders.

PCs have been rendering animations, and there has been no downtime regarding rendering this week.

Thanks for your support and understanding during this unusual time.

We'll get through this!

Have a nice weekend

Dr PinkCake

Damn, It happened with Ocean and other devs too. Those bands don't want to be attach to porn....It was nice while it last

 

[JETracktor]

If they did that , this band do not deserve our "wrath".... Trust me.

The best punishment they deserve is we forget about them. Like great Merlin did.

 

[mpa71]

For the curious here the new track:

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It actually remplace all the removed tracks: all_the_roads, amsterdam, guardian_angel, punk_rock_flu, seed_of_doubt
social_wreck was also altered by other one already existing.

 

[hakuna-matata]

Sex, drugs and rock and roll.... but we draw the line at porn.....because it's bad and we have morals.



I don't really care because I turn off the music when I play any game.

 

[Hahn1900]

Spoiler: dev report

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again thank for posting this N7

About the news... well ill miss the songs... and i cant really understand it, the band is not that succesful, and not well known...

Being a part of beingadik is by far the biggest push for their notoriety, without the game most people would never ever heard from them. And the game was a big chance for them to get noticed furthermore when they will do more songs... (i dont know about that, it seems the band is not active anymore)

MAYBE they dont like to be part of a game with porn in it? But i think this would be very hypocrite. I mean... come on.... its a punk rock band.

Well, it is what it is...


So DPC was working on patching previous content... hopefully all savegames will work with 0.9 regardless wich version i used before... i dont want to make my playthroughs again. (i have 16 different playthroughs now, and i think i have done everythign i want with them) When the new episode is out, ill make just one playthrough again as a reminder...

As we can see, there is more to it than just make episode 0.9 thats another reason why i think that late october is still a good but optimistic guess too for a release... i was pretty sure it will be october, but not so much anymore. The last dev reports are pointing out that it will be most likely november. DPC has still to do about 30% of the whole new episode, and that doesnt include bugfixing, proofreading, testing and so on...

ill stick to my bet on a october release, this was my opinion all along... but it turns out that this is optimistic too. My "realistic" self will say... october is too optimistic and it will be november.

Hopefully the case with the music will be the last setback until the release and everything will turn out fine. But... i have to say.... the songs of "Melodic in Fusion" are my favorites anyway... so... bye bye Friday Prophets... youll regret this

 

[felicemastronzo]

LMAO...they really ignored the use of their songs and the appeal of the DPC for four years. Now they decided to remember about this when DPC and a game became mega-popular. Bitchy move.
The DPC asked not to bully them... but the Internet cannot be stopped if it wants to do something.
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It's not so that DPC can replace that music. For many long-time fans of the game, a new playthrough can be horrifying because it can feel different. Music is a direct connection to a person's emotions.

Normally, one would have to start a shitstorm against "The Friday Prophets". They have declared their music as free for commercial use. According to my understanding, the songs remain commercially usable even after a change of the usage condition, because they were and were already used that way. Only songs that are released after changing the terms of use are then excluded from commercial use.

I can't blame DPC for removing these songs from the game, because it could lead to a legal confrontation, which could not only bring financial losses, but also cost time, which DPC then lacks for the further development of the game.

My guess. The Friday Prophets may not be as successful. I just googled what I can find about this band. It's not very much. Maybe they just want a piece of the DPC pie.

but between being an unknown and probably already dead band, and being an unknown and probably already dead band, but one whose song is used by a porn game, can you explain to me why one would choose the latter?

they don't make a penny out of it and their only micro fame is from "porn", it doesn't seem to me that it's that big a deal

they gave the song for free use probably hoping for a return of fame, which despite BADIK they obviously didn't get at all

of course if DPC had paid it would have been a different matter

 

[Hahn1900]

in what sense?

in chapter 8, you may or may not tell Sage about Troy.

if you don't tell him, DPC rewards you with a sex scene with Sage (a "well awake" blowjob)

reward is a misleading discription here...

If you dont tell her this, her mood is just not down cause of the news... but it is very clear, that its better to tell her if you are into her. It shows a stronger bond between them, youll get intimate cuddling time with her and she is very thankful... of course she isnt in the mood for sex after such news... and i think it will be a issue in the future with her if you dont tell her and she will find out another way. maybe even a relationship break up if you decide you want something serious with her...

That said, i think, if you want to be just her fuckbuddy, well, so be it, you dont have to tell her....

If you want something serious with her, i would say its much better to tell her. I dont think any future girlfriend in life would appreciate it if you dont tell her something like that and youre in a bad position afterwards

 

[Heycock]

I remember the first time I litsen to their music video on youtube all the comments were about Badik. One of them got their comments desactivate. I thought: "This guys must be sick that their best succes is to be the background of a porn game."
I am gonna hate the new music

 

[Deleted member 4716251]

Logic but also a dumb move from that band ....

(Almost) No one wants their own music playing during a bunch of pervert's masturbation. This isn't a dumb move...

 

[felicemastronzo]

reward is a misleading discription here...

If you dont tell her this, her mood is just not down cause of the news... but it is very clear, that its better to tell her if you are into her. It shows a stronger bond between them, youll get intimate cuddling time with her and she is very thankful... of course she isnt in the mood for sex after such news... and i think it will be a issue in the future with her if you dont tell her and she will find out another way. maybe even a relationship break up if you decide you want something serious with her...

That said, i think, if you want to be just her fuckbuddy, well, so be it, you dont have to tell her....

If you want something serious with her, i would say its much better to tell her. I dont think any future girlfriend in life would appreciate it if you dont tell her something like that and youre in a bad position afterwards

DPC rewards you, that is an objective fact, then in the long term you will see

you can't even talk about temptation because you only find out later

considering that you're not allowed to remain Sage's fuckbuddy (first the rebound guy, then the big choice, so either in or out) the decision whether to talk to her about Troy or not has to be made a priori

 

[Dr Krieger]

Someone mentioned this already but we can create a simple mod that will restore the original music in the game. So don't make a big deal out of this. I'm really lazy so I will probably wait for someone to create this mod, but if it's not released in a few months I might consider doing it myself.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Sex, drugs and rock and roll.... but we draw the line at porn.....because it's bad and we have morals.



I don't really care because I turn off the music when I play any game.

the same courage as a whole genre that rather than calling itself porn, is called AVN, where the A stands for porn ...

 

[Jehuty206]

(Almost) No one wants their own music playing during a bunch of pervert's masturbation. This isn't a dumb move...

After 4 years ?
It's a dumb move . No doubt about that .

 

[Hahn1900]

but between being an unknown and probably already dead band, and being an unknown and probably already dead band, but one whose song is used by a porn game, can you explain to me why one would choose the latter?

they don't make a penny out of it and their only micro fame is from "porn", it doesn't seem to me that it's that big a deal

they gave the song for free use probably hoping for a return of fame, which despite BADIK they obviously didn't get at all

of course if DPC had paid it would have been a different matter

Well i really dont know anything about the band... i googled a bit, and yeah it seems the band is no more.

Would explain why the respond came after 4 years.

But yeah if this is the case... the future carrer by some of them might be get a bad influence by being part of a porn game... lets say, maybe a ex-band-member wants wo be part of a classic music orchestra for example... *shrugs* anyways... i dont think we need to make a big fuss about it... the songs of them are not the best in the game in my opinion. i like others more... but yeah well... its the "opening theme" if you want to call it like that...

For a replacement... there are so freaking many good punk rock bands out there giving away the music for free... and DPC already got new songs and they are fine in my book and not worse or better than the songs before.

 

[dalli_x]

but between being an unknown and probably already dead band, and being an unknown and probably already dead band, but one whose song is used by a porn game, can you explain to me why one would choose the latter?

they don't make a penny out of it and their only micro fame is from "porn", it doesn't seem to me that it's that big a deal

they gave the song for free use probably hoping for a return of fame, which despite BADIK they obviously didn't get at all

of course if DPC had paid it would have been a different matter

It's not about fame for them, it's about money. DPC is very successful with BaDIK and earns a lot of money. The band is not so successful. They probably have their current reputation only because of BaDIK. But what they don't have is money.

If DPC would not remove the songs and the laws of the country where the jurisdiction is located would decide against DPC, it could happen that DPC has to pay for the whole time of using the songs.

The band is only in it for the money.

 

[ename144]

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I rarely have to post bad news, but today I must, so let's get it out of the way.

I've been asked to remove all songs from The Friday Prophets from the game.

When I downloaded their songs from Soundcloud, they were uploaded with the CC BY-SA 3.0 license, making them free to use commercially, but this usage wasn't what they intended.

I reached out to them four years ago about using their songs, and I got my reply this week asking me not to use their music and to remove anything I had added since.

It's sad for all of us, for me, the game, and fans, since the songs have grown to become iconic during that time. No replacement to Punk Rock Flu will give the same nostalgic feeling when you start the game or a new episode, at least not for many more future episodes and years to come.

I will respect their copyright and remove all their songs from Seasons 1/2, and 3.

Please, I ask you not to direct any negativity toward them because of this decision.

I truly believed I used their songs in good faith because of the licenses, and it's unfortunate for everyone that it came to this.

I tried my best to replace the songs with similar tunes to preserve the college feeling of the game. We'll see what happens in the future regarding the title song.

Patch v0.8.3 is live
I had to work with preparing new builds for Steam/GOG/Patreon this week, which isn't all that bad since it gave me the chance to include a bunch of other bug fixes alongside this.

This impacted the game development by a few days, but now I don't have to worry about patching Season 1/2 when it's time to release episode 9.

All work with the patches is now done, and I can go back to focusing on episode 9 again.

My team of testers and Discord staff have been awesome in helping out with verifying the bugs and builds, and they saved me a tremendous amount of time by helping out.

The new patches are live on Steam, GOG, and Patreon now.

If you want the latest bug fixes for the Patreon version, version 0.8.3 is available

You must be registered to see the links

.

You can patch your current Patreon v0.8.0/v0.8.1/v0.8.2 version if you'd like to receive all bug fixes. It is a smaller 415 MB patch for episodes 1-8.

If you can't patch your game, the full download (v0.8.3) is also available

You must be registered to see the links

.

There's no new content in v0.8.3, and I didn't post the patch as a big release post as I don't want to confuse anyone into thinking that episode 9 is being released with this patch.

You can find the changelog in the release posts.

Similar changes for Season 3 (Interlude) will come together with the upcoming v0.9.0 release, including episode 9.

Development news
Onto the development news.

Aside from work mentioned above with the patches, I started the week working on static renders.

I also wrote five more scenes for the episode, one per main girl.

I've started planning and working on the new main menu art for Season 3. I want the main menu to look as good as possible for the duration of Season 3. I have made nine new art pieces for the main menu and have 10-15 more to make. Next week's status update will show you a preview of the main menu.

I will continue my work next week to complete this task and then continue with static renders.

PCs have been rendering animations, and there has been no downtime regarding rendering this week.

Thanks for your support and understanding during this unusual time.

We'll get through this!

Have a nice weekend

Dr PinkCake

Well that's doubly depressing: no numbers, no more Punk Rock Flu.

I wouldn't say I'm a huge fan of the Friday Night Prophets, but it will be very weird to change the main music of the game after all this time. I guess we'll get used to the replacement eventually, and there's something appropriate about the changeover as we start Season 3 proper, but it's still a shame.

 

[Kellermann]

I've been asked to remove all songs from The Friday Prophets from the game.

When I downloaded their songs from Soundcloud, they were uploaded with the CC BY-SA 3.0 license, making them free to use commercially, but this usage wasn't what they intended.

I reached out to them four years ago about using their songs, and I got my reply this week asking me not to use their music and to remove anything I had added since.

It's sad for all of us, for me, the game, and fans, since the songs have grown to become iconic during that time. No replacement to Punk Rock Flu will give the same nostalgic feeling when you start the game or a new episode, at least not for many more future episodes and years to come.

I guess you could say they thought DPC was... "hurting their business?"
Honestly, that blaring intro song always annoyed me, so it's a net gain for me but I can understand that many people here enjoyed it. Copyright is a fickle beast, that is for sure.

 

[felicemastronzo]

It's not about fame for them, it's about money. DPC is very successful with BaDIK and earns a lot of money. The band is not so successful. They probably have their current reputation only because of BaDIK. But what they don't have is money.

If DPC would not remove the songs and the laws of the country where the jurisdiction is located would decide against DPC, it could happen that DPC has to pay for the whole time of using the songs.

The band is only in it for the money.

an assumption based on nothing, basically another theory of yours

you have understood little

they gave the song for free, if they wanted money they wouldn't have done it, there is no record of them asking DPC for any now in response to a request 4 years earlier (or do you think they have been observing the growth of BADIK for 4 years waiting for the right moment to make their request?)

simply the band died, someone went through the mail and found out about BADIK and didn't like it

in AVN who pays for the rights to the songs? I don't think anyone, in fact DPC didn't even think about it, he'll take another one for free

it's a problem that has already occurred to other developers of lesser fame than DPC, musicians don't like to be tied to porn games