Sasanid

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in short it basically says there is too little drama in the game, "consequences" essentially are inconsequential in regards to characters you chose to "ignore" and standard figure models that can be seen in other games, and too much money has been spent on licensed music

and that there are other college games out there with more substance
Just ramblings, basically.

Thanks for the translation.
 

dalli_x

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Well, Maya clearly doesn't grasp what "using girls" involves exactly, so at that point the MC should've told her point blank Quinn is whoring HOT girls out, instead of chickening out like a little shit and keeping that to himself. It's dumb enough he didn't start with that, but instead went for the whole "ooooh she's eeeeeviiiiil" vagueness.
Maya knows exactly what the MC was trying to imply.

mc "Nope. EVIL. I know what she does with her girls."
mc "She uses them to earn money."

Even Maya knows it wouldn't be evil if Quinn used the girls to embroider. But Quinn doesn't just use the girls at the restaurant. Riona, for example, sells drugs for Quinn. At the end of EP4, we learn that Maya knows what prostitution is. She said herself that the HOT list and the video evidence she needed made her feel like a prostitute.

my "Uses them how?"

Sounds more like a question to me, so Maya doesn't want to imagine and believe it. Hence the MC's following sentence to add weight to his previous statement and to awaken Maya's instincts.

mc "Just...don't trust her, Maya. Please!"
 

ename144

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This seems to me to be quite a biased view. In half the cases mc has nothing more to add, Quinn has offered him a service, he has refused so he doesn't know which girls are involved, he doesn't know how far they go

In the other half of the cases, MC is himself a customer and has no great reason to reveal this to Maya, he has already exposed himself more than he should.
If he didn't know more than Quinn being "evil" he would never have thought to warn Maya at all. Whether or not the MC accepted Quinn's offer, the MC knows she earns money by pimping out her HOT sisters. That's what the MC should have said to Maya, yet he mysteriously omitted those actual details so as to keep the plot on the rails.

It's hardly the only time the MC has had selective amnesia.
 

schinoize

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the MC knows she earns money by pimping out her HOT sisters.
It's been a while since I played the first episodes. Someone help my memory, what are the clues again so that MC should know it's the HOT sisters Quinn is pimping out (and not someone off campus)? On one path he recognises Camila iirc? Quinn and Riona coming out of the bathroom when there's someone behind the hole?
 

Lord Emperor

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excuse me I'm stuck when I'm in the start menu and I can't continue the story I don't know why every time I click next or enter it will return to the initial menu please help

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mightybored

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It's been a while since I played the first episodes. Someone help my memory, what are the clues again so that MC should know it's the HOT sisters Quinn is pimping out (and not someone off campus)? On one path he recognises Camila iirc? Quinn and Riona coming out of the bathroom when there's someone behind the hole?
Seeing Quinn and Riona is before he learns about the Restaurant.
 

Oliver Wendell Homely

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excuse me I'm stuck when I'm in the start menu and I can't continue the story I don't know why every time I click next or enter it will return to the initial menu please help

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What file were you trying to launch, exactly?
 

felicemastronzo

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If he didn't know more than Quinn being "evil" he would never have thought to warn Maya at all. Whether or not the MC accepted Quinn's offer, the MC knows she earns money by pimping out her HOT sisters. That's what the MC should have said to Maya, yet he mysteriously omitted those actual details so as to keep the plot on the rails.

It's hardly the only time the MC has had selective amnesia.
It's been a while since I played the first episodes. Someone help my memory, what are the clues again so that MC should know it's the HOT sisters Quinn is pimping out (and not someone off campus)? On one path he recognises Camila iirc? Quinn and Riona coming out of the bathroom when there's someone behind the hole?
Quinn being the vice president is a legitimate deduction, but not a certainty

It's with Sage that mc has unwarranted amnesia, he warned Maya , that's enough. That Quinn can then exploit her as a prostitute, drug mule, drug dealer, underground fighter makes a very small difference
 

Klopdwerg

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Since we're closing in on the next release i'm playing some routes again to "freshen up" the different stories.

And allthough it's discussed several times but it's still not answered afaik.

Who is the culprit or traitor...
Is he or she the same who smashed up the DIK mansion? But can't remember or find any about something that came to mind just while i'm playing.
In Ep.3 Jamie lost his phone and pictures from that phone are send to Chad as part of the blackmail or just intimidation. But most likely also from Rusties phone since there is also a selfie among them. But... there is one from the janitorcloset with Derek and Jacob DP-ing Arieth. And that one is defenitly no selfie, more like a spycam.

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That means he or she has free acces to the mansion and even more to the DIK phones (through laptop most likely)
Nick was a long time suspect but what it looks like it's someone who wants to destroy the DIKS through any means necessary.
And what if there are more spycams around... Maybe even the trashing of the mansion is recorded and not to mention the excesive drug abuse of some DIKS.
 
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OFT

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Since we're closing in on the next release i'm playing some routes again to "freshen up" the different stories.

And allthough it's discussed several times but it's still not answered afaik.

Who is the culprit or traitor...
Is he or she the same who smashed up the DIK mansion? But can't remember or find any about something that came to mind just while i'm playing.
In Ep.3 Jamie lost his phone and pictures from that phone are send to Chad as part of the blackmail or just intimidation. But most likely also from Rusties phone since there is also a selfie among them. But... there is one from the janitorcloset with Derek and Jacob DP-ing Arieth. And that one is defenitly no selfie, more like a spycam.

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That means he or she has free acces to the mansion and even more to the DIK phones (through laptop most likely)
Nick was a long time suspect but what it looks like it's someone who wants to destroy the DIKS through any means necessary.
And what if there are more spycams around... Maybe even the trashing of the mansion is recorded and not to mansion the excesive drug abuse of some DIKS.

This has been a pretty divisive subject, and I'm not going to venture to guess. I will say one thing about it:

A lot of people try to rationalize how long and how many people it would take to trash the house in order to justify their theory. I can say unequivocally, that if anyone claims a single, fit, college-aged man cannot do all that damage during the couple of hours the DIKs were away, then they have never worked demolition as a fit, college-aged man. Don't say it's not possible. Accept that you didn't know it was possible, and work that into your theories.



This post made me think of the Shazba List of Answered/Unanswered Questions, and how I needed to refresh my memory of it going into Episode 9.


I forgot about this one:

  • Zoe? Lots of questions... The best one being, will anyone in this game ever have such a beautiful animation as her body pan, blink, smile, shrug and forehead lift? Just... go back and watch it again, alright?

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ffive

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This seems to me to be quite a biased view. In half the cases mc has nothing more to add, Quinn has offered him a service, he has refused so he doesn't know which girls are involved, he doesn't know how far they go

In the other half of the cases, MC is himself a customer and has no great reason to reveal this to Maya, he has already exposed himself more than he should.
So that's exactly what he has to add, that Quinn told him she's pimping out girls and offered him access to this "service". The insistence that no, there's absolutely nothing the MC could've said to clarify the nature of his warning is frankly starting to get a bit silly when you're repeatedly told what more, specifically, he could've said.

Maya knows exactly what the MC was trying to imply.
If she knew exactly what the MC was trying to imply, she wouldn't ask him for clarification what he meant.

my "Uses them how?"

Sounds more like a question to me, so Maya doesn't want to imagine and believe it. Hence the MC's following sentence to add weight to his previous statement and to awaken Maya's instincts.
Yes, it was a question. Even allowing for (quite reaching) possibility that Maya "knows but doesn't want to imagine it" the MC should've answered that precisely and directly, so she had no option but to actually imagine and hopefully believe it; because that would "awaken Maya's instincts" with no room for misunderstanding or avoiding the reality.

To use an analogy, the way it's currently dealt with in the game goes a bit like:

(Maya's drink has been poisoned and the MC knows it)
mc: Maya, don't drink that, it's not safe!
my: Not safe how?
mc: Just trust me, please!
(instead of simply telling her about the fucking poison in the drink)

It's obfuscation for the sake of keeping the plot going, nothing more. And it's annoying as fuck.
 

DrSoong

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excuse me I'm stuck when I'm in the start menu and I can't continue the story I don't know why every time I click next or enter it will return to the initial menu please help

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First, seems a normal log to me, which version are you playing?
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