ChipLecsap

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no i did mean Tybalt. i think in another timeline DPC would have made this game where she had tried the dating scene multiple times already. she would have been with Tybalt just due to their proximity, her polite attitude, and his unrelenting thirst for her and she would have probably given in and gone out with him and either be pressured into sex with him (slowly but surely) or maybe even give him some pity sex and then dump him. she would have also had her time with Rusty and it would have also been another bad experience for her. and all this comes together with Jill deciding to just wait for Mr Right until the MC shows up.
Tybalt should have been a total different character then.In his current state, no woman even want to go near him. So no, a storyline like that would not add anything to Jill.

I do think that the original idea was Jill had bad experience with dating, but then later DPC give a little Fanservice, by making her virgin.
It doesnt matter now.
 
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it's not so clear to me which girl Zoey is

seems to me to be a girl with major socialization problems, in high school she needs to find someone far worse off than she is in order not to spend her free time in complete solitude (both have virtually no other friends)
Zoey strikes me as some sort of a cross between Maya and Josy, psychologically -- she's socially awkward and has hard time accepting her mother's new(?) marriage. She opens up with the MC but i'd agree she doesn't seem like someone who'd be going out and actively pursuing casual sex just for the heck of it.
 

felicemastronzo

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Zoey strikes me as some sort of a cross between Maya and Josy, psychologically -- she's socially awkward and has hard time accepting her mother's new(?) marriage. She opens up with the MC but i'd agree she doesn't seem like someone who'd be going out and actively pursuing casual sex just for the heck of it.
the description of her, despite the interlude, remains the height of the generic

the family issue is also the height of the generic: she has a stepfather with whom she does not have a good relationship, and this is so taken for granted that there is not even a why, it is not even clear which of the two started the war (for Josy at least we know about a generic accusation of taking her father away, though she understands her father...okay)

Zoey could be an introvert like Maya, only unlike her she vents this limitation by pushing away those around her (MC, her mother, Emma...), wanting to be perceived as strong. Maya at least is more honest in this.

With Josy I see far fewer points of contact, at the cost of being wrong Zoey does not let herself be told what to do on almost any occasion, she has a fairly strong will
 

felicemastronzo

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To be fair, Jill isn't saving herself for the MC specifically, since she can reject him, too; much to chagrin of some people /s
and the revenue stays stable!

dpc wouldn't decide it's ok to hurt his own business
we have yet to see James kiss Bella.... not even in the wedding photo...

you feel like thinking that DPC only considers Jill's fans "weak".... but if it makes you feel better:whistle:
 
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but i do agree that in many ways Jill seems like wasted potential from a story growth perspective. im quite certain DPC added her last minute to appeal to a certain demographic that isnt shy about donations :BootyTime:
No no no it's an artistic masterpiece, not a sex game where girls exist to fulfill fetishes and the story is written to facilitate increasingly outrageous sexual encounters.
 
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All your other examples have plausible deniability that means that the idiots who hate that sort of thing will just ignore it.
It’s honestly creepy to think that there are fans out there who would actually have a problem with that. - Rio doesn’t have plausible deniability since both Rusty and Tommy infer that she’s blown both of them at some occasion during hell week push-ups.
 
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CoalPhelps

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Maya only had experience with girls.
Bella has been married for a long time and it is absolutely naive to believe that she and her Husband did not have sex.
Seriously, is there such an opinion? I mean, at least the attempt at fooling around at the beginning of Episode 8 already shows that they were definitely living a normal sex life.
 

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Seriously, is there such an opinion? I mean, at least the attempt at fooling around at the beginning of Episode 8 already shows that they were definitely living a normal sex life.
Never underestimate people's willingness to delude themselves. :v

IIRC when Isabella is having lewd thoughts about Fuckface in her bed after the drunk kiss, she's also pretty clear there was a few years break in her life when it comes to these things, as opposed to virgin confusion over getting sexually aroused for the first time.
 
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Geralt From Rivia

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Seriously, is there such an opinion? I mean, at least the attempt at fooling around at the beginning of Episode 8 already shows that they were definitely living a normal sex life.
For some, it's hard to admit that their pixelated waifu was with someone else. :LOL:
By the way, some believe that this scene with her husband in the library is Bella's hallucination.
 

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For some, it's hard to admit that their pixelated waifu was with someone else. :LOL:
By the way, some believe that this scene with her husband in the library is Bella's hallucination.
Aha... Was Tremolo hallucinating when he saw her picture with her husband, too? And no one in all those years suspected anything when she told them about her husband? Or is she some kind of Scarecrow and uses gas to convince others of her hallucinations? Just never mind...
 

Geralt From Rivia

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Aha... Was Tremolo hallucinating when he saw her picture with her husband, too? And no one in all those years suspected anything when she told them about her husband? Or is she some kind of Scarecrow and uses gas to convince others of her hallucinations? Just never mind...
Hallucinogenic gas, or maybe mind control like a genie? Damn, full game of monsters, I knew it!
 

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Agreed, very fucking weird. The only people I've ever met like this in my life either viewed it as some predatory conquest where they'd overcome some magical challenge, or they're just so shit they don't like the girls having anybody else to compare them against. Everybody worth their salt knows Snow White was bangin' those dwarves. The prince don't care.
I've never understood the ntr brigade. The odds of you finding someone who has not only been chaste up until they met you but will also put up with the you belong to me and only to me even before you even knew I existed attitude are about a 10th as good as your odds of winning the lottery. She's a human being, not your fucking property. If that's what you want travel back to the 13th century or move to saudi arabia.
 

hakuna-matata

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This idealization of "the perfect woman" (a.k.a virgin) is a common thing between people, especially conservatives people. And believe or not, more and more i perceive that a lot of the users in this site, who are playing these type of games, are conservative people in regards of how the LIs in VNs should be and behave.
I don't think it has anything to do with being conservative. There are just people out there who are simply weird, insane or both. Most of those people need meds.
 

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There are just people out there who are simply weird, insane or both.
Mostly scared, i believe. There's deeply rooted inferiority complex that makes one feel the only possible outcome of girl having sex with someone else is, she'll find that other guy superior in this regard. And so, the only way to avoid it is to ensure she's never ever had nor will have sex with anyone else.

(incidentally, this makes Sage's 3/5 rating thing hilarious)
 

Skeltom

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This idealization of "the perfect woman" (a.k.a virgin) is a common thing between people, especially conservatives people. And believe or not, more and more i perceive that a lot of the users in this site, who are playing these type of games, are conservative people in regards of how the LIs in VNs should be and behave.
Mostly scared, i believe. There's deeply rooted inferiority complex that makes one feel the only possible outcome of girl having sex with someone else is, she'll find that other guy superior in this regard. And so, the only way to avoid it is to ensure she's never ever had nor will have sex with anyone else.

(incidentally, this makes Sage's 3/5 rating thing hilarious)
I don't care if she has had something between her legs before, I just don't want to watch someone else do it. :)
 

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Can anybody help me? I've already practiced twice with the guitar(One in HOT's house and the other in the DIK's house when Josy is sleeping there) but I still get the bad outcome of Jill's concert, also, I can't practice in ep 8 cause every time I press on the guitar it seems that it doesn't exist.
 
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