VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[TheVengefulOne]

It mind boggling how people still can't do basic math. About 4.5 times as many renders and 6.5 times as much animations as the smallest update, which took 3 months. We are not even at 2 times the time interval yet dumb people who are trying too hard to look smart are calling the dev milking.

"Released to date" as far as I am aware this update which is still in the works has not been released.

Was comparing it to episode 8, which is what 3/3.5 times bigger than the interlude, yet it took 30 weeks and the Interlude which is the smallest update to date and took 15 weeks.

Maybe calm down and read the words first before you go and solve the wrong equation, yeah?

 

[ffive]

Was comparing it to episode 8, which is what 3/3.5 times bigger than the interlude, yet it took 30 weeks and the Interlude which is the smallest update to date and took 15 weeks.

Perhaps it's simply a mistake to presume that doing 3x as much work in just 2x as long time is the norm, and any performance falling short of that is nothing but "milking" or something equally ridiculous?

The guy has 2 more seasons, that is 8 episodes, planned and to be yet produced and released. It'll take him years as it is to produce it, presumably getting paid all this time. He hardly has any need to slow his work down on purpose on per-episode basis.

 

[JETracktor]

unless maya and josy are cool with it and wanna join the action

 

[lipe2410]

I want a scene in ep. 9 where MC is taking the Vixens to his room , then Becky see them and ask if she can join. Then MC answer: "cool people only".

In your face, bitch.

 

[Blades1138]

It mind boggling how people still can't do basic math. About 4.5 times as many renders and 6.5 times as much animations as the smallest update, which took 3 months. We are not even at 2 times the time interval yet dumb people who are trying too hard to look smart are calling the dev milking.

It's mind boggling if you think that each of those 4600+ renders are vital to this update. There are great games that have managed without creating a render for each finger movement. As a result the size of this rendered images game is starting to compete with that of large open world games with much more content. Oh and don't get me started on the irrelevant D&G bs, that stuff exists only for padding and nothing else. Same as quite a few other parts of the game.

If you think DPC is not trying to prolong the lifespan of BaDIK, you are laughably naive. His previous game was nowhere near as successful and seeing as how he's obsessed with cashflow nowadays, it would be stupid of him not to milk it at this point. It's fine to like the game, but stop being in denial and defending DPC like he's some kind of saint. He's just a guy like any other.

 

[ffive]

I want a scene in ep. 9 where MC is taken the Vixens to his room , then Becky see them and ask if she can join. Then MC answer: "cool people only".

In your face, bitch.

I'd prefer one with regular throuple and Becky hearing this from Maya...

 

[lipe2410]

I'd prefer one with regular throuple and Becky hearing this from Maya...

Have to be with people tha Becky consider "cool" to have impact. She doesn't think Maya is "cool", despite Maya be way, way, way more cool than stupid Becky.

 

[ffive]

As long as Maya is sliding on MC's dick she's evidently cooler than Becky, even Becky will need to acknowledge it.

 

[nyrek]

View attachment 2027588

fuckface, chad and troy or I'm not interested!

 

[Hahn1900]

Totally agree about Josy/Maya. All of their relationships, storyline and drama are focused on Maya. And it surprises me that the DPC doesn't give Josy any attention - she's the only girl without a storyline. Still the hot girl next door that you're in love with at the beginning of the story. She has no personal problems, no thoughtful story, no drama. I like Josy and generally love this type of girl in life - kind of sweet and good, but inside the fire and a little devil. Josy has a DIK side.
But again: she needs a story, and now Maya is dragging her down. At the beginning of the game, it was an eternal argument: who is better, Josie or Maya?
Now other girls have come to the fore, who overshadow Trouple.
If we look at the current polls, then Sage and Jill are now fighting for the podium. And as much as I dislike Jill, I would prefer Maya to her in the place of a "good girl", but public opinion says a lot. Trouple shouldn't be entirely focused on Maya.

Have to disagree regarding Josy... (about the lack of attention)

First of all, all the girls have kinda big drama going on. So much that its a little tireing too. I remember well when i played the game the first time (at that time Episode 3 was just around the corner and released while i started playing)

We gonna meet Josy and she is just perfect, the sweet little cutie we have a huge crush on (is still my favorite girl in the game, followed by Jill, yep iam a Jill fan, suck it up), of course she is taken and the Quest for winning Josy over starts... Dont need much more

And then we meet one girl after another... and the drama starts, Maya has big time drama, Bella big time drama (but hidden from the MC for know, doesnt matter for the player though, its there, and its big), Jill of course too and it will get bigger along the way with her family issues, tybalt and what not. Ah and sage got drama too... drama i dont really care for, fuck chad and why does she clinge so much on that relationship? Will never get that. Everstime we met a new girl i start rolling my eyes when i sense the drama with them... like "oh come on not again big drama coming along with a girl... maya is enough, i just want Josy"

Josy is the only girl with no real drama beside her emotional rollercoaster. SO FAR.

But there is a huge build up going on and all of this will explode further down... To me Josy more feels like THE main girl out of all the girls... a long time i thought its more Jill, i mean, come on she does the instruction too But everything is kinda connected with Josy. Tommy, MC knows her way before College starts, there are hints that she might know Zoey too (brother of a "friend" baught the alcohol and such) I dont see any scenario that the Maya/Josy realtionship is gonna work without the MC being in this. AND Josy is the only girl so far where the MC can be rejected and there are STILL strong feelings shown, thats complete unique in the whole game... (yeah you can say to derek that you have feelings for maya in EP5, but nothing comes out of it, Josy has several scenes after that where its just one step from starting to get serious) anmd she is literally friends with everyone.

DPC gave her very much attention, just in another way than the other girls...

She is the sweet cute but although little devilish girl who befriends everyone... but everything around her will explode down the road in some way... Tommy and the throuple is huge conflict potential that will blow up, and she is not a passive girl like Maya who lets everythign just "happen" no Josy will take action. And maybe she will take collateral damage with the whole quinn/Tommy drug things and get in that way too. and the overall plot will not go on without involving Josy very much... as i said, she is not a passive girl, she will take action when she see something she dont like... and the free tuition thing? Uuhh Josy will do something about it within the HOTs, iam sure of it. She will go little police-detective for sure

It was just not the time for big Josy drama so far, but attention wise, i think Josy got the most... she even has the most lewd scenes so far if iam not mistaken.

The whole Josy-arch is just different so far from all the others. (one point why i like her so much) It feels more "normal" with her overall. And the chemistry between her and the MC is the best too i think... you can kinda "relive" the feelings between them and watch them grow, with Jill its similar but not on that level. With all the others its more like a "head over heels" thing, even for maya which feels really odd considering her character.

I think Josy got enough attention from DPC (well for me its never enough Josy ) and he decided to not give her that kind of drama like all the others, so he has at least one "normal" college girl in the game. As for now at least... but as i said, she will get her big drama, more than enough, maybe starting with episode 9... cause there is no way the maya thing with the burkes will unfold in a good way, and that will effect the throuple/M&J couple big time... and i think there is a big reason too why Josy and Maya didnt get a scene in episode 8 where the MC tells them he wants to get serious like he did with every other girl. Cause its not meant to be that the throuple will last for now... my guess? the throuple will come to an end in episode 9 (or better said Josy and Maya will seprate for a while), not forever for sure, but for a time being, cause Josy cant eat that shit anymore when maya starts drama again.

Josy just wants to be happy, and i like that very much about her. But she will not escape drama forever. And i have a feeling her drama can get bigger than we think cause it will not just be "one thing" like for all the others but several things that add up.

 

[shazba]

It's mind boggling if you think that each of those 4600+ renders are vital to this update. There are great games that have managed without creating a render for each finger movement. As a result the size of this rendered images game is starting to compete with that of large open world games with much more content. Oh and don't get me started on the irrelevant D&G bs, that stuff exists only for padding and nothing else. Same as quite a few other parts of the game.

If you think DPC is not trying to prolong the lifespan of BaDIK, you are laughably naive. His previous game was nowhere near as successful and seeing as how he's obsessed with cashflow nowadays, it would be stupid of him not to milk it at this point. It's fine to like the game, but stop being in denial and defending DPC like he's some kind of saint. He's just a guy like any other.

It’s mind boggling that you can’t accept that the parts of the game that do not appeal to your interests aren’t necessarily "padding".

I really enjoy DnG, I don’t even skip through it on a new play through even though I know how it’ll end. I’m hoping for another round before the end of the game.

Some people didn't like the mansion repair minigame, others absolutely loved it and spent time coming up with spreadsheets identifying the optimum way to play it. Felice will tell you I'm a weirdo, but I even put together a standalone version of it. The same will happen with the new party planning game, some will love it, some will hate it, and some will call it padding.

And regarding the extra renders, sure, a game could just use two renders in any conversation between two parties, just switch back and forth between the two renders and still get the message across, but if DPC uses more to paint the scene better, to convey more emotion, it only adds to the experience.

An example being the Zoey tattoo scene in the Interlude, where Bret is finishing her chest tattoo, there are 92 scene transitions, 33 of them are unique (including an animation). As she discusses things and her thoughts drift, so do her eyes, and when she feels the sting of the tattoo machine she winces, she raises an eyebrow when she's questioning, she lifts both eyebrows when she's nervous, there are different camera angles, there are the other people in the scene, and so on. DPC didn't need to do all that, he could have just reused a single facial expressions for every sentence and not bothered with the animation. But he has the patience to take it further and so he does.

I really don't think he needs to milk the game, finishing this game will lift him even higher on a pedestal and people will be clambering for his next project. As far as I recall, before he finished Acting Lessons he'd already started work on BaDIK, so he had teasers and information for his patrons, he would likely do the same thing when he finally gets to the last episode of BaDIK (if he's planning to make another game, but I'm pretty sure he's already given indications that he's got ideas in mind).

Bottom line, the reason he puts so much extra stuff into the game is because he's a maniac.

It's mind boggling how it took 15 weeks to develop the smallest update ever, whereas the biggest update released to date took him 30 weeks.

This is milking pure and simple, next update will take a whole year.

It mind boggling how people still can't do basic math. About 4.5 times as many renders and 6.5 times as much animations as the smallest update, which took 3 months. We are not even at 2 times the time interval yet dumb people who are trying too hard to look smart are calling the dev milking.

"Released to date" as far as I am aware this update which is still in the works has not been released.

Was comparing it to episode 8, which is what 3/3.5 times bigger than the interlude, yet it took 30 weeks and the Interlude which is the smallest update to date and took 15 weeks.

Maybe calm down and read the words first before you go and solve the wrong equation, yeah?

Just thought I'd point out that while there were approximately 15 weeks between when episode 8 was completed and when the Interlude was completed, as well as development on the Interlude, that period also included:

• Season 2 release on Steam
• Both seasons release on GOG
• Christmas
• New Year

That cunt DPC my also have taken some time off! The fucking nerve!

 

[Hahn1900]

It’s mind boggling that you can’t accept that the parts of the game that do not appeal to your interests aren’t necessarily "padding".

I really enjoy DnG, I don’t even skip through it on a new play through even though I know how it’ll end. I’m hoping for another round before the end of the game.

Some people didn't like the mansion repair minigame, others absolutely loved it and spent time coming up with spreadsheets identifying the optimum way to play it. The same will happen with the new party planning game, some will love it, some will hate it, and some will call it padding.

And regarding the extra renders, sure, a game could just use two renders in any conversation between two parties, just switch back and forth between the two renders and still get the message across, but if DPC uses more to paint the scene better, to convey more emotion, it only adds to the experience.

An example being the Zoey tattoo scene in the Interlude, where Bret is finishing her chest tattoo, there are 92 scene transitions, 33 of them are unique (including an animation). As she discusses things and her thoughts drift, so do her eyes, and when she feels the sting of the tattoo machine she winces, she raises an eyebrow when she's questioning, she lifts both eyebrows when she's nervous, there are different camera angles, there are the other people in the scene, and so on. DPC didn't need to do all that, he could have just reused a single facial expressions for every sentence and not bothered with the animation. But he has the patience to take it further and so he does.

I really don't think he needs to milk the game, finishing this game will lift him even higher on a pedestal and people will be clambering for his next project. As far as I recall, before he finished Acting Lessons he'd already started work on BaDIK, so he had teasers and information for his patrons, he would likely do the same thing when he finally gets to the last episode of BaDIK (if he's planning to make another game, but I'm pretty sure he's already given indications that he's got ideas in mind).

Bottom line, the reason he puts so much extra stuff into the game is because he's a maniac.

All these details make the game stand out from others... cause its way more like a movie and feels way more "alive" than all the other AVNs around here... yeah you can make a whole scene with only twi renders, just back and forth and fill everything else with text... but those are most of the time not that good, and getting tirering to read. Soon enough you dont even look at the renders anymore, cause there is nothing interesting or new to see anyways.

In BaD i go back and forth the scenes and watch every render closely, did that so many times... cant count anymore how many playthroughs i made where i really watched everything without skipping. And nearly everytime i discover something new or interesting that slipped thorugh so far... this is really something other AVNs can deliver, not even close.

People who dont pay attention to this or dont like stuff like this tend to say "oh my dont make a fuss and stick to the important things" but than it wouldnt be being a dik. The whole title say what this game is about "being". DPC wants to create a little college universe that feels alive... and those details are very important for this goal. Of course they are distracting, and without them the game would be already finished.

But there is a reason why this game has so much more success than all the other VNs and way more than the first from DPC...
Acting Lessons didnt have those details...

And you can clearly see playing being a dik, that DPC never was satisfied with his work on AL, and still isnt with being a dik too... every episode gets more and more details, and is technically improving too...

Yeah DPC is manic, or a maniac... both. I think you have to be this way to make such a project on your own.

If you dont like that details, fine, skip them, dont pay for the game (we are on a pirate site for a reason, and i didnt pay any money for the game the first time i downloaded it)

But i love these details, and i wouldnt love the game that much without them...

Well its the same with Red Dead Redemption 2 i guess... there are so many unnecessary things in this game which are very time consuming... but they make the game "alive" and i love such things. i wouldnt enjoy the game without them so much like i do.

 

[ffive]

It’s mind boggling that you can’t accept that the parts of the game that do not appeal to your interests aren’t necessarily "padding".

I really enjoy DnG, I don’t even skip through it on a new play through even though I know how it’ll end. I’m hoping for another round before the end of the game.

D&G is just thinly veiled excuse for some extra sex scenes with the game cast in different costumes (or without) It does boggle the mind someone would essentially complain "he's adding pointless porn to a porn game, that's padding and milking!".

 

[anonnyscouse]

I'd invite Becky in with the vixens, but she's only allowed to watch.

 

[Lightaces]

Most hated minigame, anyone? For me, it's fucking pancakes. My ass is burning from this. No matter how much I try - 600 points for achievement in Steam seems impossible. This is crap, and also a stupid puzzle. Are there mini-games that annoy you?
View attachment 2027128
View attachment 2027129

That's a challenging one, to be sure.

 

[Overam22]

I think DPC said he wasn't going to do something like what he did for the ending in Acting Lessons. There's going to be some melodrama stuff but nothing that'd make someone just want to sit down and process what the hell just happened. So just a few twists here and there but no gut punches.
As for Neil not being the his biological dad, it just seems out-of-place and something I think DPC would do if he really just wanted to add more drama because there's nothing else. Plus, I mean it could just mean MC looks more like his mom. Which makes sense because let's be honest, he wouldn't be getting almost every female character in the story telling him he's "hot" (meaning his physical appearance and not just about his horse dong) while looking like Neil.

Am glad that's the case, maybe am just being paranoid lol

 

[Darkwen]

Josy and Maya, they are really the weakest part, Mostly Because of Maya. Everything about in this Path, is about Maya. Maya money problem, Maya's Father, now Maya joining the Hots.
Meanwhile Josy has zero own story arc

Josy is already the best girl without a so called story arc, watch we learn lot about Josy going forward, but do will really need too? Mc will learn what he needs too when Josy is really or DPC really, but until im happy with what we have

 

[ChipLecsap]

Josy is already the best girl without a so called story arc, watch we learn lot about Josy going forward, but do will really need too? Mc will learn what he needs too when Josy is really or DPC really, but until im happy with what we have

S.I.M.P

 

[Darkwen]

S.I.M.P

YEss but can you blame me i mean look at her

 

[ffive]

Given how scared Josy is of being left alone, maybe her arc triggers when you decide to go for other girl in Ep.8

And by arc i mean stabbing spree.